Why should those who follow God in this age or era expect a test which is
different from that faced by people who follow God in any other age or era,
if that is what you are saying? Most people do not have an opportunity to
do great and special things for which their names will go down in
He works off of a checklist.
Broken heart
Contrite Spirit
Ordinances completed
Not a member of silly email lists
Jon
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Luke 18:13.
Again, does God work off a checklist, or does He desire a broken heart
and
a contrite spirit?
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Luke 18:13.
Again, does God work off a checklist, or does He desire a broken heart
and
a contrite spirit?
At 08:21 PM 8/11/03 -0400, Jon Spencer wrote:
He works off of a checklist.
__x_ Broken heart
__x_ Contrite Spirit
__x_ Ordinances completed
Not a member
At 12:58 AM 7/13/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote:
It says after all we can do, not after all we do. That's not to say
we don't repent and repent often. I'll give you a scenario. Suppose
someone commits sin no. 760 of the day but it is a tiny thing and he
hardly notices. It is certainly nothing
At 04:04 PM 7/13/03 -0600, George Cobabe wrote:
I am not sure that any personal story I could come up with would be of any
interest to any of you, and of course would not be any of your concerns.
However, I am personally convinced that the test will consist of what ever
it takes to try you to the
At 06:48 AM 7/17/03 -0700, Bill Johnson wrote:
I don't think one will know for sure that their election has been made
sure until one has died. As long as we live and breathe, we are sinning. A
scripture that says something to the effect of: All has sinned and has
come short of the glory of God
Paul Osborne wrote:
As far as this life being a nightmare? (as was suggested) - that does
not
seem like a loving Father at all. I think that this life is a wonderful
experience and every challenge only adds to the fun. And the small
challenges are only there to prepare us for the big one.
I
John W. Redelfs wrote:
My list would be much shorter:
1. A testimony that there is a God.
2. A testimony that his Son is Jesus Christ.
3. A testimony that Joseph Smith was a true prophet.
4. A testimony that the current leadership are prophets including the
Church President, the Stake
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:10:36 -0400 Scott McGee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Osborne wrote:
As far as this life being a nightmare? (as was suggested) - that
does
not
seem like a loving Father at all. I think that this life is a
wonderful
experience and every challenge only adds to
Yes Paul, much better.
I agree He is strict. It is that whole demands of justice thing,
though, not just because he wants to be. He could have been much less
strict and let us stay eternally with Him in our pre-mortal state, but
we wanted so too be like Him, and this life (and the consequent
At 07:52 AM 7/13/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Paul Osborne wrote to our BLT:
I'm a bigger jerk than you and that's pretty bad! ;-)
Grampa Bill comments:
But Till lives in a deeper (and more humble) hole than either of you.
Yes, yes, and his floor is so covered
At 10:03 AM 7/13/2003 -0600, Cousin St George wrote:
One of the points that ought to worry you that is not on your list is the
idea that you will be tried to the limit of your ability. Just like Abraham
was tested so you will be tested - differently but as severe. Just as
others that we can
At 10:03 AM 7/13/2003 -0600, Cousin St George wrote:
One of the points that ought to worry you that is not on your list is the
idea that you will be tried to the limit of your ability. Just like Abraham
was tested so you will be tested - differently but as severe. Just as
others that we can
At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote:
What would such a test consist of? Physical
endurance? Brainwashing? Torture or something less diabolical such as
integrity? What about martyrdom? Can we have any stories?
Till suspects that those what has them would rather not tell them.
At 07:16 AM 7/17/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote:
At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote:
What would such a test consist of? Physical
endurance? Brainwashing? Torture or something less diabolical such as
integrity? What about martyrdom? Can we have any stories?
I wonder if for many
At 09:22 PM 7/13/2003 -0800, BLT wrote:
Still, the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that it won't last
forever. Death will bring some relief when it finally comes. All I have
to do is endure to the end.
Relief from what, John?Us We're here to take care of
eachother. I
I don't buy that completely as that could be the test of any age or era.
Stacy.
At 06:28 AM 07/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
At 07:16 AM 7/17/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote:
At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote:
What would such a test consist of? Physical
endurance? Brainwashing?
I don't think one will know for sure that their election has been made sure until one
has died. As long as we live and breathe, we are sinning. A scripture that says
something to the effect of: All has sinned and has come short of the glory of God is
very true.
It comes down to the thought
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I don't think one will know for sure that their election has been made
sure until one has died. As long as we live and breathe, we are sinning. A
scripture
It says after all we can do, not after all we do. That's not to say we
don't repent and repent often. I'll give you a scenario. Suppose someone
commits sin no. 760 of the day but it is a tiny thing and he hardly
notices. It is certainly nothing to go to the bishop about, at least
that's
Paul Osborne wrote to our BLT:
I'm a bigger jerk than you and that's pretty bad! ;-)
Grampa Bill comments:
But Till lives in a deeper (and more humble) hole than either of you.
Love y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah
Concerning 2 Nephi 25:23 . . .
At 12:58 AM 7/13/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote:
It says after all we can do, not after all we do.
Exactly. No matter how much we do, we can never do enough to save
ourselves. We are all dependent upon God's grace, even after doing
everything we can possibly do.
At 10:03 AM 7/13/03 -0600, George Cobabe wrote:
Come on folks - this is an easy list. You can do all of this and still have
time left over for all the rest you might want to do.
Your exaltation depends more upon your acceptance of the atonement, which no
one has mentioned so far, than ANYTHING
Stacy Smith favored us with:
It says after all we can do, not after all we do. That's not to say
we don't repent and repent often. I'll give you a scenario. Suppose
someone commits sin no. 760 of the day but it is a tiny thing and he
hardly notices. It is certainly nothing to go to the
One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...
As far as this life being a nightmare? (as was suggested) - that does
not
seem like a loving Father at all. I think that this life is a wonderful
experience and every challenge only adds to the fun. And the small
challenges are only
George Cobabe favored us with:
I am sorry that your life is so terrible that you need to disagree.
I have noticed that when the burden is great and is heavy to bear it is a
result of sin and of ignoring the promise of the Savior: My burden is
light.
Challenges? Yes, but manageable and to be
, not Circumstances is one of the keys to a happy life.
George
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From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...
George Cobabe favored us with:
I am sorry
Stacy Smith favored us with:
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to do to have
one's calling and election made sure, but I think many people, including
myself, would never be able to do it. What do I think it would take?
My list would be much shorter:
1. A testimony that
I can't say I've met all your list either. If I can't say I've met all
mine or all yours it looks like Jesus may have pity on me or I won't make
it either.
Stacy.
At 04:41 PM 07/12/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Stacy Smith favored us with:
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is
remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I
would venture that few there are that have sought after and received
this blessing that, according to 2 Nephi 31:17-18, is a requirement
before you are solidly on
Isn't that what we seek when we take the Sacrament?
Stacy.
At 08:54 PM 07/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is
remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I
would venture that few there are that have sought after and
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From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the
Fact that Most
Isn't that what we seek when we take the Sacrament?
Stacy.
At 08:54 PM 07/12/2003
on this topic: Mosiah 4, Enos, 3Nephi
12:1-2, and one of my favorites, DC39:6.
I don't think it is the same thing.
Noel
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From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stacy Smith:
All right. Let's get practical. If one hasn't the temple
marriage one wants I suppose it's fruitless to even try for
anything like this.
Larry Jackson:
I believe it would take a successful temple marriage.
Stacy:
But if one were to eventually get that and everything else
is your heart? Are you willing to
diligently seek him? Even in an apartment? That, I think, will make the
difference.
Noel
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