The first issue (fast shutdown) you can avoid by simply not sending
SIGTERM and switching to always use SIGINT. (For some reason zdaemon
seems to do that by default when sending SIGTERM to the daemon manager.)
The second issue seems like a bad thing. Right?
Any comments?
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Make a branch to perform some preparations for the separate ZMI package
Changed:
A Zope/branches/z4-zmi/
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Log message for revision 123366:
re-enable the ++skin++ traverser
Changed:
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A Zope/branches/z4-zmi/src/Products/Five/browser/tests/skin.py
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A
could leverage right away. Especially as multiple
orthogonal components (like: your application and the ZMI) need to
leverage this plugin point, I'd rather have this provided by the framework.
I couldn't find an argument anywhere why ++skin++ should be gone.
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into the new ZMI project I find it to be the most
light-weight approach without adding an extra dependency.
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application that runs in a separate skin.
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On 11/16/2011 11:30 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4.
As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more
details about that in a bit) we'd like to leverage this feature.
From my perspective, I value
.
Cheers,
Christian Theune (and Charlie Clark, Veit Schiele, Yvo Schubbe, Jens
Vagelpohl)
[1] In case you haven't heard, we're in the process of renaming this to
Python Software Verband - Germany's Python Software Foundation. So
PySV will be showing up instead of DZUG in the future.
[2
on the Python 3 port of zc.buildout at
the last Sprint we didn't even find it overly challenging to also keep
Python 2.4 in the loop.
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required.
So those solutions then require you to put the password for accessing it
somewhere during deployment ... where is that for you?
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information in English, feel free to
respond to this post or contact me personally.
Best regards,
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change my lair now ...
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Hi,
On 03/18/2011 04:47 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 09:13 +0100, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi Guys,
On 02/10/2011 07:07 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last
year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting
don't have any relevant
opinion on the changes ;)
Same here - specifically for the Munin stuff.
P.S. I use http://pypi.python.org/pypi/munin.zope these days.
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Hi Guys,
On 02/10/2011 07:07 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last
year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity.
Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions?
Sorry for not updating earlier - I was recovering
to make changes!
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Hi,
I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last
year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity.
Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions?
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Is it okay if I do this?
Sounds bearable given what we have. :)
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that are interesting to people.
Our current goal is to get together during March for 3 days, probably in
Berlin.
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Hi,
On 12/21/2010 10:05 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
Thanks for giving it a shot Christian! I always read the meeting notes,
if I didn't participate.
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Hi,
I'm back from vacation (for a few days until the holidays kick in). :)
I'm still getting back on track and I'll be online tomorrow but won't be
able to prepare much.
Whatever you want to talk about I'll be happy to discuss.
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list should stay as it is.
+1 Perhaps even a blank line between groups would help accentuate the
groupings.
I thought about that, too. However, there's no homogeneous syntax
currently in place that defines the groups.
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Hi,
today is bug day and I've been hacking away on the nightly test result
aggregator script a bit to make the output more readable for the large
number of results we get every night.
Also, I'll be around for the 3pm UTC IRC meeting today.
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Hi,
here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails.
My focus on this draft was:
- allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily
- allow having a graphical overview of how broken something is
(group builders by prefix)
- have a stable sorting so you can quickly pin-point
Hi,
On 11/30/2010 02:43 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
today is bug day and I've been hacking away on the nightly test result
aggregator script a bit to make the output more readable for the large
number of results we get every night.
Also, I'll be around for the 3pm UTC IRC meeting today
On 11/30/2010 06:04 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 11/30/10 16:06 , Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails.
My focus on this draft was:
- allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily
On 11/30/2010 06:04 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 11/30/10 16:06 , Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails.
My focus on this draft was:
- allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily
...@freenode.
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script supposed
to appear ... ;)
- summit goals
We'll probably not be able to touch all of that, so I suppose we pick
the issues depending on who participates.
See you next week at 15:00 UTC (watch your local winter time
adjustments!) on #z...@freenode.
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a brief README.txt to show how it's used; there's a more
extensive doctest inside the package.
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for - would be great if you found the time to
release it.
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zope.exceptions.log.Formatter
max-size 50MB
old-files 5
/logfile
I'd like to keep this out of the server: rotation is a system
administration task where I'd like to rely on the policies and tools
provided by the system environment.
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.)
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Hi,
On 10/29/2010 03:26 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
for next week's meeting (#zope on freenode, as always) I propose to hear
from the PloneConf, check with the summit goals, and follow up on the
bicycle toolkit again (Charlie, you coming?)
Hmm. It's either been DST confusion or Plone
On 10/29/2010 08:26 AM, Michael Howitz wrote:
Am 27.10.2010 um 08:52 schrieb Christian Theune:
On 10/27/2010 08:44 AM, Michael Howitz wrote:
[...]
+1 But the `mapping` attribute should update the existing mapping of the
message ID as this would allow to have a partial mapping stored
/ZopeSprints2011
If you're interested in anything related to Zope software that you'd
like to work together with other people during the next year, then
please talk to me, tell me what the topic is and when and where you'd
prefer a sprint.
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Hi,
for next week's meeting (#zope on freenode, as always) I propose to hear
from the PloneConf, check with the summit goals, and follow up on the
bicycle toolkit again (Charlie, you coming?)
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Am 26.10.2010 um 16:13 schrieb Tres Seaver:
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On 10/26/2010 09:36 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
I've fiddled a bit with
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.i18n/+bug/592753 and ended up
Hi,
On 10/26/2010 09:14 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
Today is a bug day and the weekly developer meeting.
I haven't managed to write up the log from last week, but basically Jim,
me, and some others talked about about the need for being able to
communicate/document architecture/design
Hi,
Today is a bug day and the weekly developer meeting.
I haven't managed to write up the log from last week, but basically Jim,
me, and some others talked about about the need for being able to
communicate/document architecture/design decisions well - we didn't find
the grand solution,
documentation that explains the
situation (what is happening and why)
or
- make the parameters take precendence over the message id attributes
So - why not do the latter?
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to have happened
during the large rename/restructure back in 2003.
So, what's up for everyone else who joined the bug day?
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to be able to contribute something if
you don't try to fit the whole day into your probably busy schedule.
We'll hang out, as always, on IRC at #z...@freenode.
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on this?
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discussion/explanation it will help you actually achieve
something on the bug day if you understand what's going on and what
needs to be done - that's going to be much more satisfying.
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Hi,
here's the reminder and agenda for next week's meeting:
We'll meet, as always, in #z...@freenode at 15:00 UTC.
Topics will be:
- Follow-up on summit goals
- Planning the next bug day
- The bicycle toolkit
I hope you enjoy your weekend and see you next week,
Christian
the door.
Indeed. I'm happy to see this happen. :)
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Gah. Editing old posts ... :)
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- UNKNOWN
Status details can be found here:
http://example.com/zopetests/2010-01-12-00:30:15.html
\= SNAP
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hope I am back in time
but if not can I ask Adam to step in?
Sure thing.
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Sigh,
On 10/01/2010 03:50 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Good afternoon,
another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC.
Me bad. My scheduling isn't good enough it seems. I need to be on the
road at 3pm UTC today and won't be there. :/
Charlie?
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Good afternoon,
another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC.
As the discussion about the goals that were established during the last
meeting didn't get a conclusion last time, I'll pick it up again.
I'd also like to review the bug day as it seems there was only little
if they seem AWOL).
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Hi,
On 09/24/2010 07:56 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Good evening,
another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC.
During the meta-discussion this week Charlie mentioned that we really
need to keep following up on the issues/goals/topics that were
identified during
On 09/24/2010 05:16 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
Thanks to Tim Peters for helping me figure out the fix.
Cheers for Tim! :)
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into more of the patterns and DDD community and I'm hoping to
explore some of their good ideas (not the architecture astronaut ones)
but that's a separate story from this post ...
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http
Good evening,
another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC.
During the meta-discussion this week Charlie mentioned that we really
need to keep following up on the issues/goals/topics that were
identified during the summit.
So, before returning to pure maintenance topics
the meeting itself.
See you later,
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Hi,
there's not weekly meeting today where Charlie or I will attend as most
of us are at the (closing) summit and move to the DZUG conference
afterwards.
I'll post a summary of the summit in the near future. :)
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Hi there,
On 08/24/2010 05:34 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
and here's the Doodle for the next bug day.
I've moved it further away than 4 weeks as many people seem to join us
at the summit and the conference and we figured we don't want this to
overlap and give people a quiet week
Hi again,
our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC.
I'd like to catch up with topics that have been in limbo for a while:
- Supporting Python 2.7
- Abandoned projects
- Windows compiler licenses
Does anybody else have other topics?
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=False, that means if your
app is *really* hosed you don't get the error logged to the usual
error.log or event.log and are also *unable* to access the UI of the
utility.
Anyone objects a change to copy_to_zlog=True as default?
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be there either, but
I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over.
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Hi again,
our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC.
I had a request that we talk about the buildbot organization and I'd
also like to review the bug day.
Does anybody else have other topics?
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Hi everyone,
last week was a bug day and I'd like to repeat the exercise from last
time: it would be nice if everyone who was involved in some way to speak
up and say what they worked on.
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Hi,
looks like my announcement was too late already.
Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update
mail which you already received.
See you on the bug day tomorrow, or next week at the weekly meeting!
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of the week.
Ouh!
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Hi again,
late, but here it is:
We have an IRC meeting coming up in about an hour.
Topics, if nothing else comes up, will be
- upcoming bug day
- test noise reduction
- how to choose topics for the weekly meeting
Hope to see you later,
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gocept
Hi there,
On 08/10/2010 02:16 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi everyone,
today's another meeting coming up.
and here's the notes from yesterday's meeting:
The DZUG conference will get some more announcements through the Python
conference advertisement channels.
The summit preparation
/caching/IOPS.
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Would someone be kind enough to build and upload new Windows binaries?
Hmm. There should be dragons here that take care of that automatically
if I understood the wineggbuilder correctly.
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minutes):
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100810.html
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it.
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://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100803.html
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On 08/02/2010 04:51 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi everyone,
tomorrow's the weekly IRC meeting.
That's 2010-08-03 of course ...
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the test_suite
function in many cases.
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! Is there a list of talks online where we can get
the links to the Zope-related ones, maybe even slides, from?
Christian
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Hi,
Charlie already send a report from his EP visit.
If anybody else visited and found something relevant for the rest of us
(talks? sprints? interesting discussion topics that popped up?) then I'd
like to invite you to share your thoughts!
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. No
decisions were made but we can probably use some of it as an input for
the summit. See the IRC log if you're interested in the full 20 minutes.
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100727.html
Cheers,
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Just to make sure: I want us to take 10-15 minutes to review new bugs
and either reject them or accept them as valid bugs signalling the
reporters that we have seen them (and will deal with them eventually).
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On 07/20/2010 05:13 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi everyone,
here's the Doodle for our next bug day:
http://www.doodle.com/6gydequztpac3xud
Wow!
9 people doodled and there's a day that seems acceptable to everyone:
Thursday, 2010-08-19
will be our next bug day.
I'm excited already about
idea to spend 15 minutes together triaging some
bugs to get the languishing bug reports down.
The full report is here:
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100720.html
(pending SVN update)
See you next week,
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On 07/21/2010 09:17 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
On 2010-7-21 07:32, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote:
* Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net [2010-07-20 19:28]:
On 2010-7-20 18:15, Christian Theune wrote:
At least, WRT this bug, I don't think it's a good idea to ask explicitly
for bad requests to go
Hi everyone,
here's the Doodle for our next bug day:
http://www.doodle.com/6gydequztpac3xud
I'd like to see many people there, so if you have any questions that
need answering before you can join us on the bug day: ask them!
Christian
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Hi,
I just rejected issue
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.app.testing/+bug/181754
There might be room for different oppinions and if anyone would like to
veto the decision, I'd welcome a discussion.
Christian
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On 07/20/2010 06:01 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
On 2010-7-20 17:39, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
I just rejected issue
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.app.testing/+bug/181754
There might be room for different oppinions and if anyone would like to
veto the decision, I'd welcome
On 07/20/2010 07:28 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
On 2010-7-20 18:15, Christian Theune wrote:
At least, WRT this bug, I don't think it's a good idea to ask explicitly
for bad requests to go to the application as the test layer should model
real server behaviour as closely as possible. And again
and runs on Python 3 already. It's purely a question
of if we want both changes at once or not. :-)
I myself prefer having more releases. I like Marius' idea: 3.10 would be
good for removing the test runner then 4.0 can be Py3 compatibility.
Christian
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are, as always, welcome.
See http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100720.html
(should be available in a few minutes).
Christian
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demotivating.
Ack.
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On 06/28/2010 06:33 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi everyone,
our bug day in July needs scheduling and we'd like you to tell us which
day works best for you if you want to participate:
http://doodle.com/akd2f59kdadp86r2
Ok, so although Charlie indicated that his doodle is wrong, I'll take
Hi,
I'd like to close the Doodle (see link below) tonight and have only had
4 responses so far, so, if you only forgot about it, please go ahead and
indicate what day is best for you.
Christian
On 06/28/2010 06:33 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi everyone,
our bug day in July needs
://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100629.html
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another 4 weeks down the road and we agreed last time to
spend some time in meta mode every now and then. So, independent of what
we talk about in the 30 minutes of the meeting, please bring an
additional 15 minutes for talking about the meeting itself.
Christian
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On 06/21/2010 05:59 PM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to invite to the next developer meeting on IRC (#z...@freenode)
which happens tomorrow at 15:00 UTC.
And here's the report. Sorry for the delay.
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100622.html
(Might take a minute
to improve Zope software,
feel free to step by on #z...@freenode and join us!
The last bug day got a lot of work done, see the summarized reports in
the wiki:
http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100616
Hope to see you during the bug day in July,
Christian
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