Hi!
I am aware that I am adding another 2-3 man years to the wishlist, but here
are some ideas I had lately:
A Zope IDE should be much more than just a programming IDE adapted offer
highlighting etc. for Zope's languages. It should be an RAD tool similar to
what MS Access does for database
nobody will
ever convince me that the CMF => Plone way was the right way to go ... Well,
different people, different tastes ;-)
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** A final question that is mainly aimed at the ZC people: What is the
competition you are positioning Zope 3 against? I've never seen an
answer to that quite important question ...
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e it in my application?
Is there any written documentation on how to hook up the error log?
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2.7.0b2 was released yesterday with both of these bugs fixed. Is that
soon enough? ;-)
Yes it is ;-)
Sorry, I didn't check before ...
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Hi!
WRT the Zope 2.7 timeline: Couldn't we just get a new beta that includes
the most critical bug fixes very soon? If 2.7 doesn't get deployed on
"almost production" systems there will not be too much further testing I
guess. And currently most non-experts will not even be able to get a
Zope
mechanisms,
secure SQL database access, very sophisticated internal security model),
but Zope is not a firewall. If you don't take care there is some chance
of DOS attacks. On the other hand I am quite positive that Zope is very
secure in terms of prevent
ter way of browsing the
source code?
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s an error calling a
variable or so. Errors in the ZPT syntax and some runtime errors are
raised properly, but others just cause a white page to be rendered,
which is very hard to debug without using a debugger.
Joachim
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Toby Bologna schrieb:
Hi,
I'm a programmer but new to Zope. I'm developing a text markup language
like Structured Text that better suits my needs outside the Zope/Python
world. Would I be able to incorporate it within Zope, i.e., so I could
edit the new format in the edit window and have it displa
(Tested with
)
There are an awful lot of colons in there :-)
Indeed ...
Here's an off-the-wall idea:
This looks better as a tal:tag
Or, if you only use this kind of thing with tal:replace, tal:content and
tal:define.
Of course, none of this helps for tal:attributes.
If I understood
http://david.tribble.com/text/misspell.htm
Could we add that to the Zope 3 styleguide? ;-)
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Andreas Jung schrieb:
--On Donnerstag, 20. Februar 2003 08:05 +0100 Dieter Maurer
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Zope 2.5.1
A "PathIndex" maps (pathsegment,level) onto the "IISet" of document ids
with "pathsegment" at "level" in their path.
An "IISet" is a single persistent object, written as a
ts
whose owner is gone you get into trouble.
So there are probably two solutions:
a) DO NOT delete the owner
b) Let somebody else take over the ownership
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s patched for Zope 2.6.1 final? At least
as an option that can be activated when needed?
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Hi,
I'd just like to know when can we expect a 2.6.1b2. It would be nice to
have a new release where we don't have to patch just to get ZClasses to
work.
Yes, it IS indeed a problem if there is no single Zope version out there
that can be used without patches. 2.6.0 has the DateTime bug, the
2
Hi!
We've talked a lot about that when we discussed Zope I18N some time ago.
Most of this is relatively easy to accomplish even now.
Regarding language negotiation: Both Localizer and ZBabel do this. The
problem in my practical experience is that most people do not configure
their browsers correc
or Antivirus software (we think it is the Firewall) seem to parse
the code (regardless whether you do a zexp or xml export) and replace
characters ...
The funny thing is that this seems to happen even if the Zope server runs
locally!
Cheers
Joachim
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Hi!
I just encountered a very strange bug: One of our clients had problems with
exporting and importing his stuff from his local machine to our servers.
What happened was that lines like
became
">
and
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> I must've missed the start of this thread (I only just signed up for
> this list). I didn't see any patch -- I thought it was just a gripe
> about ZCTextIndex. Of course patches are welcome -- where can I find
> this particular patch?
Hi Guido!
I don't know where you would expect a patch to b
Hi!
> Please note that former Zope versions already include a dedicated
> unicode-aware
> splitter that is already usable with the old TextIndex and maybe with
> ZCTextIndex.
> TextIndexNG resolves all these issues by doing the complete internal
> processing by
> converting the data into unicode.
Hi!
Some additional remarks: While making the splitting dependent on the locale
settings (as done in the old TextIndex) helps with most use cases, I'm not
sure if that is the right thing to do in the long run. Locale settings are
good for client software, i.e. if you want to have a program behave
ex be replaced by
TextIndexNG?
Does it make sense to get ZCTextIndex fixed (there seems to be a patch in
the collector already) or should I go with TextIndexNG? If yes, is it ready
for production environments?
Cheers
Joachim
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thon). But I'd
guess that code fragments in Scripts (Python) should be save enough to not
blow the server. Other memory-intensive potentially malicious code like
infinite recursions are handled well after all.
Any comments?
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> For sanity's sake, 2.6.x is now the current maintenance branch, not the
> place to put new features. New features should only go into 2.7. We
> need to get out of the hotfixes business. Adherence to strict rules is
> the right way to get there.
And just for the record:
The bad old Zope tradi
I won't look into the DTML Parser code right now. Don't need no headache ;-)
But this is my first guess:
> >
DTML looks at "getEasyLanguageService" and does an implicit
"getEasyLanguageService()". So now "getEasyLanguageService" (as an attribute
in the DTML namespace) represents the actual ser
Hello!
I am getting multiple identical entries in the Add menu of the indexes page
of my ZCatalogs with Zope 2.6.1 b1. Is it just me?
Could be a minor bug with filtering the all_meta_types or
filtered_meta_types ...
Joachim
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OT: I am going to switch to some other mail client soon. It's unbelievable
that Outlook Express still doesn't do the ">" thing right :-(
>- Xron just runs on one server, e.g. the one that is on the fastest
machine;
>this is useful for cases where you need the events to be executed on the
>sa
> Hi All,
> I'm interested in starting to maintain Xron, if it has potential to be a
> stable products.
> From the code it doesn't seem to do any strange things, but I would
> like to know if anybody has experience of using it in a production
> environment, or any other experiences and that would
> While we're improving zdaemon, I have two other suggestions:
>
> - Use grown-up language in log messages rather than "Aiieee!" and
> "Houston, we have forked"
I think you are right, but from an emotional point of view, I'll be missing
"Houston" very much. This kind of stuff gave Zope a person
Hi!
I could comment for hours on the postings in this thread (after rereading
what I've just written below I actually did ;-)). But let me just take this
to say what is most important to me:
> In the world of Zope 3, this distinction will be even more clear. Zope
> 2 unfortunately tried too muc
Hi!
I have tracked down the problem with Collector issue 517 (Unicode problems)
now:
My Product used a modified manage_page_header that did not set the meta
header for the encoding. After copying the relevant lines from the new
manage_page_header in Zope 2.6 everything works fine, except for one
Hi! The UTF-8 errors I am getting because of the unicode problems in Zope
2.6b1 (see Collector issue 517) are not logged in the new error log, which
means that there is no way of easily getting the traceback information
AFAIK. Is that a feature or a bug?
Joachim
Hi!
Some time ago I filed this issue as a 2.6a1 bug
(http://collector.zope.org/Zope/517), only that it was German characters
with me ...
The browsers I was using where IE 6.0 (which led to errors storing property
sheets and could not display some of the propertysheets correctly) and
Mozilla, whi
, i.e. run fstest.py and/or
fsrecover.py? It's quite unlikely that you'd loose a whole tree, as the data
is not physically stored in trees, but added sequentially. You might have
deleted a tree, but that can be rolled back by getting rid of the ZODB
transaction that did the delete.
Cheers
Hi!
I have a really large Data.fs file (1.3 GB) that has a number of errors.
When I run the fstest.py script, I get this:
Problem: 109963117 object serialno 0x034573c4b6a2cb6e does not match
transaction id 0x034573c55c8c0dbb
How can I fix the Data.fs file? It should be possible to scan the Data
> > I have a Zope 2.5.1 using ZEO on Linux, with Apache as proxy server.
The two
> > ZEO clients run fine for a couple of hours, and then suddenly one of
them
> > stops responding. It's the type of Zope hangs when all processes are
fine,
> > but ZServer just doesn't respond (load is very low,
Hi!
I have a Zope 2.5.1 using ZEO on Linux, with Apache as proxy server. The two
ZEO clients run fine for a couple of hours, and then suddenly one of them
stops responding. It's the type of Zope hangs when all processes are fine,
but ZServer just doesn't respond (load is very low, with the CPU 90
Hello!
Suddenly I am getting massive problems with Zope 2.5.1 sessions. The Zope
instance was upgraded from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 and has a lot more load now as it
is in production. Nothing else has changed I guess.
The problems:
Frequent "duplicate key errors", and now a new one when I try to enter t
Hi!
> Barry A. Warsaw writes:
> > concerns. After talking with Fred, I came to understand that much of
> > the code's current obscurity is due to optimizations to make TAL
> > perform at least as fast as DTML.
>
> Well, faster than it used to. We need to spend time on performance.
Indeed. A
Hi!
I finally got it:
It's not Zope that causes any trouble, it's ab. It seems to expect identical
sizes for the pages retrieved. What I checked was commit a change to a test
page (which was absolutely static) in the middle of an ab run. The result
was almost 55% "failed requests" ...
Cheers
J
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To: "Andreas Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Wrong length for http requests!
> Hi!
>
> I tried with more verbosity. The r
Hi!
I am getting the following results from an ab (Apache benchmark) run against
a Zope site:
Concurrency Level: 20
Time taken for tests: 11.862 seconds
Complete requests: 40
Failed requests:23
(Connect: 0, Length: 23, Exceptions: 0)
Total transferred: 1517831 bytes
H
OrderedFolder is not about having an ordered default view in the management
interface. The point is that people want to build menus or web pages that
consist of several objects in a folder, using objectValues()/objectIds().
Without OrderedFolder or a similar approach it is very hard to position
ob
Hi!
I guess ZClasses are not "evil" or so. But as somebody who has worked with
ZClasses for a long time and then switched to Python Products instead, I see
a lot of problems/disadvantages ZClasses have:
- Most important: It is rather hard to change the base classes with
ZClasses. In Python, you
Hi!
> That is Stephan's product, not mine, and it *may* have some issues in
> certain OS distributions (based on my experiences and another user's).
So,
> it cannot be added itself without some work--further testing work if
nothing
> else.
What kind of problems does OrderedFolder have? There is
> I don't know OrderedFolder very well but it'd be very useful in several
> of my projects, so I can volunteer a bit of time in helping to get it
> in Zope 2.6 as well.
Hi Martijn!
If you do so, please check with me for the newest version of Ordered Folder.
I have added a few features to Ordere
Hi!
I think the problem is more severe. IE 6 has obviously changed behaviour
compared to IE 5.5. I'd call it a bug. It now always calculates "100%" with
the right-hand bar's width INCLUDED, so there are other side-effects than
the one you are describing, like the last tab on the right being parti
Hello!
Has anyone done any performance comparisons between DTML and ZPT yet? The
reason I'm asking is that we did some first(completely unscientific) tests
and had the impression that ZPT were actually quite a bit SLOWER than DTML -
and I just can't believe that ...
Joachim
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Hi!
I remember that someone posted that question before, but I didn't find it.
So here it is again:
In the latest Zope versions, if a user has no rights to see a certain
management tab in the ZMI, it is shown anyway. If he clicks on it, he'll get
an authentication request, so the method behind t
I have a slight correction to make (which doesn't change the message of this
posting):
> - As the new sessioning code seems to be working within the transaction
> machinery, the SESSION.set action causes the mere display of an index_html
> page (that includes a session initialization method) to b
let me state what I think is a fact: As of Zope 2.5 b3, you can
either use versions OR sessions. If you try to combine them, you'll get into
big trouble. This is a major bug, right?
Cheers
Joachim
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Hi!
Thanks for the hint. I'll try using a versioning storage, though it might be
rather inefficient I guess?
> > As the Temporary Storage is incompatible with versions, it seems to
> me that
> > I can not at all use any session manipulating code in a method that
> might be
>
> > called under
Hi!
I have a problem concerning using versions and sessions together in Zope 2.5
beta 3:
As the Temporary Storage is incompatible with versions, it seems to me that
I can not at all use any session manipulating code in a method that might be
called under version control. This is very disturbing
Hi!
Just to answer my own question and complete the mail archive:
If you have problems with downloads that make use of the HTTP range
functionality (e.g. with the latest Acrobat Reader in MS IE), Zope 2.5 fixes
the problem (for me).
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Hi!
This is my first post in the new year, so best wishes for 2002 from Germany!
And on we go with my problem:
I have a ZClass-based Class derived from File. It holds PDF documents. SOME
(not all) of them do not auto-open in Acrobat Reader as they are supposed to
if MS IE 5.x is used. Opera etc
Hi!
I have two Zope 2.5 b2 installations on two seemingly identical machines,
both with PostgreSQL, ZPsyCopDA, and DBObjects. In the DBObjects demo, I am
getting THIS (see below) on one of the machines (the one with the slightly
older installation).
Very strange for me. What the hell is "restric
Hi!
I finally managed to compile that beast. So I'll probably be the one to post
binaries ASAP ...
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Hi!
I don't have the resources to start something like that NOW, but I'd really
like to see work on an OpenOffice integration:
> has anybody integrated/plans on intragration/experimented with
> OpenOffice and Zope ?
YES.
> - OpenOffice as a HTML Editor / Web-Frontend for Zope
I don't like tha
Hi!
I have tried to compile psycopg on a SuSE Linux 7.0 system, but it I simply
cannot get it done. Do you have some precompiled binaries you could post?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Joachim Werner
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Doesn't seem to make any difference :-(
What does that option do?
> >
> >class Rewrapper(Base):
> >
> >def __init__(self, path):
> >self._path = path
> >
> >def __of__(self, parent):
> >ob = parent
> >for p in self._path:
> >ob = getattr(ob, p) <= H
Hi!
This time I need some specialists to help ...
Here is some code from ZBabel Objects. ZBabel objects are folders that hold
localized versions of anything you want to internationalize and pass getting
attributes and calling objects to one of these localized versions depending
on your language
Hi!
> This isn't a Catalog error, it's a ZODB error. It appears that your
> ZODB data has beome inconsistent. You might want to try to run
> fsrecover.py against it after making a backup to see if it detects any
> errors.
I don't think so:
- fsrecover doesn't find anything
- the error occurs
Hi!
Any ZCatalog experts out there?
I am suddenly getting this with a ZCatalog (it is actually a subclassed
version of the ZCatalog, almost a one-to-one copy of the CMF Catalog tool):
--
Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyError
Error Va
Hi Martijn!
Formulator is a good case how things can work. You did the main design work
on your own. And that was very good. Then we had the chance to contribute
ideas for new fields etc. I now have my own FormulatorExtensions product
with stuff I could imagine being part of Formulator as soon as
Hi!
Just a very short comment:
> As Paul said in the Paris meeting and as Joachim W. has
> stated in a previous mail, one thing we can work on is in
> a common way to get translations from message catalogs, from
> Python code and DTML and ZPT templates.
exactly
> Don't matters where the messag
> Of course there are hot spots. I have asked multiple times for help on the
> mailing
> lists and the Eurozope site to identify such related hot spots.
> Also I had expect some input of the community regarding at unicode support
> inside Zope. But there has been no feedback. It looks like no one
> The second is pretty exciting as well. I saw a presentation in Paris by
> Juan David Palomar, of Localizer fame. (The presentation is now up at
> http://estce.act.uji.es:9673/localizer). The presentation impressed me
> on the need to get someone into the core of Zope that knows all these
> de
Hi!
> > This is a totally different business model than the one Zope Corp. is
using
> > right now, but it might help refinancing the overhead a good community
needs
> > to have ...
>
>
> Would it have to be done by ZC?
No, of course not.
And there could be more than one of course (though we'd n
> When we first opened the fishbowl, it was with the certainty that we
> wouldn't get it right immediately. That's why we went with the intentially
> low-tech approach of a pile of Wikis. That first step actually worked
> pretty well for a while until we hit critical-Wiki-mass and there were
> sud
> Where's the $99 version of Zope? The $499? The $1499? The
> $25999? Zope Corp hasn't pulled that card out like many other
> vendors have. There are actually many pieces of Zope that were
> initially commercial add-ons (or intended to be) that are now all
> open source.
I sometimes have the
> I think there's another problem here: possibly the community isn't
> large enough yet. There's already been a discussion on zope-coders
> about how little those with commit priviledges are actually
> committing, and the main reason is simply that no-one has enough
> time.
This might be a bit s
> Notification, which bugzilla offers, MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!
> Email notification is good enough, if I want that to beep my cellphone, I
just
> send it to me genie.co.uk email address...
Yet another comment: That translates to "We finally need MAILMAN integration
into Zope!"
I mean,
> IMO, Bugzilla won't fix these kinds of problems. I think the first step
> is to refine what we have while finding better ways to work together.
We definitely need a ZOPE-based approach. What I really don't get is this:
We all seem to be building Zope-based systems for communities, public
adm
Hi Paul!
> I don't want to replace one group of people with a busy agenda with
> another group of people with a busy agenda. We need a small group of
> people that are willing to make a long-term commitment to
> responsibility. These people can then tap into others that can commit
> on an as-ne
I seem to have to comment on most of the mails in this thread. Sorry for
that ;-)
> Personally, I think ZC are trying very hard, but are not getting it
> right. I'm also very sure they are taking this conversation
> seriously. Brian responded very quickly to the userfolder 'api'
> issues. They
> > Does the fishbowl process address this for you?
> >
> >http://dev.zope.org/Fishbowl/Introduction.html
>
> From me, that'll be a resounding no.
>
> Every single idea I've had for Zope has died somewhere in the fishbowl,
and not because people have turned round and
> gone "no, that's a crap
> > Noone from Zope Corp seems to monitor the list to help out.
> That is not my experience at all. I have received answers from Zope corps
> several times. But sure, most of the answers you get come from the
community
> members. Thats what a community is all about, and thats the hallmark of a
>
Hi!
> To be honest i would be happy for Zope 3 not to be backwards
> compatible. Tidy it up, delete the unless code, dare i say it -
> refactor. Yes so my products will break, well half a days refactoring
> myself and i have a tidier more understandable project anyway.
YES, we need a new start
Hi!
> Has anyone out there tried this already? Last we heard, Mailman was
> a standalone CGI program, and in order to make it work with Zope you
> had to run both Mailman and Zope behind another web server (such as
> Apache).
Yes, but if you control the Mailman from Zope, you will of course not
> What I'm missig more is flexibility for the "Add object" mechanism.
> The possibility to install products not globally, but locally for a
> folder and it's subfolders and some hierachical sorting of "add type"
> selectbox.
Hi!
With OrderedFolder, you can at least clean up the Add menu locally.
> By default, Zope adds the title and version properties, for which it
> gets the value from version.txt and meta_type,
> but does anyone know a way to add more?
This is only half an answer, but maybe it helps:
I am not quite sure if you can do that the easy way from Python. (I.e. just
define a
> I'm not entirely sure why the idea of ZTables went away so completely.
> Python tables in the ZODB combined with the catalog should make for an
> interesting system to play with. Though perhaps there are products
> out there that actually do this. Come to think of it, MetaPublisher
> (not to be
Hi!
Has anybody also had that with a Zope 2.4.1 instance (Linux)? It happens not
only with Metapublisher (as in the example), but seems to occur quite
randomly. It might be a problem with my local install, but even if it is, it
should not happen (as I just have some custom Products installed) ...
Hi!
I am working on internationalizing a Zope 2.4.1 instance with ZBabel and
providing a set of patches for Zope 2.4.1. My idea was that things would
become much easier if I had a tarball that just contains all *.dtml files
and the folder structure for them, so I can distribute the tarball as a
p
Hi!
Stephan Richter has started to re-implement DateTime using mxDateTime a
couple of weeks ago. That should fix all the various problems with DateTime.
At Zope Corporation, Andreas Jung took care of that. So if you complain loud
enough, I guess the fix could go into the 2.5 release. It just migh
> Vulnerability: attacking can get file list and directory
> Tested on Win32 platform
>
> Example:
> telnet zopeserver 8080
> PROPFIND / HTTP/1.0
>
>
>
>
> < list files and directory >
>
> This tested on my site:
> security.instock.ru 8080
This one really seems to be the old "WebDAV is not sa
> I imagine that the group will decide rules on peer reviewing. For
> comparison, the Mozilla group has very elaborate rules for checkins,
> while Python has pretty much an innocent until proven guilty culture.
> (That is, you check something in, and if somebody complains, it gets
> removed.)
>
Hi Paul! Hi list!
In the last couple of weeks I have really looked forward for the CVS to be
finally opened. Not that I would be the first to be accepted as a
contributor (my Python is still lousy, as Stephan Richter could tell you
...), but I read things from ZC like "We are too busy to get cont
> Question :
> When I access to my folder by webdav protocol (win98 webfolder), I can
list
> the folder content, but when I want to access to a file inside, Zope asked
to
> me another authentification, then I can access to my file (wordd file
(.doc))
> but only in read only mode.
This seems to be
> /
> Transparent_A
> Method_A
> Folder_B
> Transparent_B
> Method_A
> Folder_C
>
> Folder_B and Folder_C are non-transparent, Transparent_A and
> Transparent_B are transparent.
>
> The problem is when i say in a Document which is in
> Folder_C i got the M
> If DTML programming / interface design is so simple, and cheap, why not
> automate it? (Strike two for low cost development).
>
> I've been trying to save some time (and my fingers!) by building a RAD
> framework, named the WarpFramework [1], which deals with the low level
> complexity of prope
> Maybe you search "python.org" for Guido's metaclasses article.
> It tells that a Python class can be both a class and an instance
> and that this view has interesting applications.
>
> You focus on the class aspects of a ZClass (a pattern for creating
> instances providing them with basic common
> I do not agree with you:
>
> a ZClass is both an instance (you can manage, modify, delete)
> and a class (you can use as blueprint for object creation).
O.k., I CAN manage/modify/delete a ZClass, but it still is (conceptually) a
class, and only a class. You can manage/modify/delete Zope P
> dtml-tree made me look good today :). Thanks DC!
But still it urgently needs a rewrite ;-)
Some issues:
- Only one tree per page (it should be an option to use core session or
unique cookies to enable more than one tree per page)
- The open/close icons are hard-coded
- A general one that appl
> Is there any good reason why a Product inside the ControlPanel is the only
> place a ZClass can exist? Why can't I have one in any folder?
I think it is perfectly logical that ZClasses are located in the Products
area. A folder is for instances of classes, and a ZClass is a class, not an
instan
> Tomorrow I hope to release a version of TransparentFolders that works
> around the problem, so you can wait for that instead if you like.
Cool! Could you maybe put the patch that currently is applied in
OFS/__init.py__ into a Hotfix? This would make it easier to use Transparent
Folders together
Transparent Folders are used very often at iuveno. And we would like to do
so in the future because they really provide an easy way to structure
objects in folders. But with Zope 2.3.3 we get errors like that when we
start an instance that uses Transparent Folders:
Traceback (innermost last):
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