Florian Lindner wrote:
> Hello,
> I've one attribute A which is exposed via the Interface. Another internal
> attribute B should be in sync with it. So everytime A changes I want a
> function to be called.
>
> I think (solving another error stands before testing it) with __setattr__:
>
> d
Wade Leftwich wrote:
Jeff Shell has written a couple of really good essays in his weblog:
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2005/12/zope-component-architecture-one-way-to.html
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2005/12/zope-component-architecture-interfaces.html
I haven't seen these posts mentioned
Wade Leftwich wrote:
If ZCML (a/k/a The Right Way) is keeping fairly smart developers from
trying Z3, then maybe we need an alternative (a/k/a What People Think
They Want).
Are you sure ZCML is The Right Way? I know its purpose (since I helped
invent Zope 3): to combine configurations by mult
Chris McDonough wrote:
I assume this means you've given up on the idea of creating a GUI ZCML
configuration tool, the?
No. In fact, I've been creating the tool for the purpose of convincing
myself that ZCML is right, even though I still believe it's wrong. :-)
One thing I've learned from t
[Shane]
Are you sure ZCML is The Right Way? I know its purpose (since I helped
invent Zope 3): to combine configurations by multiple developers without
imposing a particular workflow. However, I maintain that Python code could
do the job better. The Python code I have in mind is not the same a
Chris McDonough wrote:
Is this code available anywhere or are you still at a state where
you're not ready to release?
It's one of the Z3 base projects:
http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/zopejam/trunk/
It's not ready to release, and I've been busy on other projects lately.
But I find it quite use
Florent Guillaume wrote:
Shane Hathaway wrote:
Well, I wouldn't say the people I know "can't get past" ZCML. They're
smart, and learning an XML schema is not a big effort. However, for
someone coming from Java frameworks, yet another XML format is a big
mark aga
[Florent]
Time and again people fail to realize that Zope 3 wants to create
the low level framework right first, and only after that add high
level simplifications and shortcuts to have less configuration and
provide fastest developer exeperience.
Of course people aren't attracted to Zope 3
Jeff Shell wrote:
I just believe - heavily - after many of my Zope 2 experiences that
configuration as done by ZCML should be as separate from the code
itself as possible. If it's going to be in the same programming
language, it needs to be made clear what it is, what can be done, and
what can NO
Jeff Shell wrote:
And I think that's where I worry. With ZCML, name resolution happens
very late. This seems to cut down on the problems that I've had with
Zope 2 style configuration. If imports are in the top of the module,
as most developers are used to doing, then they're executed as the
mod
Alen Stanisic wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 11:25 -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
[...]
ZCML is a great way of getting a quick overview on how things hang
together.
I agree, I found ZCML very useful when trying to learn how Zope3
components work.
Oh humbug. Every time I've wanted to find so
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 19. Januar 2006 13:54:55 -0600 David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
We're looking at 10-100 billion tx per year stored and performed.
This would be 31-310 tx/second...forget the ZODB :-)
Well, if those transactions just add to a log, ZODB could handle it on
David Johnson wrote:
Today, alone, we've processed 15M TX in about 2 hours (2080tps), using a
single MySQL server (not TTW), and MySQL just yawns. In our experience,
only MySQL and Oracle are capable of doing this (and Oracle only in versions
9 and above). This is also why I ask so many RDBMS q
Ron Bickers wrote:
Today, I see the mess that a Zope 2 site can turn in to, so I started looking
at Zope 3 again. The release announcements say it's ready for production
use, but the website has no promotion of it whatsoever. You have to dig
several levels deep to see any mention that it's no
Andreas Zeidler wrote:
On Fri, Feb 03 17:24, Encolpe Degoute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Zope 3 / Revolution ?
well, how about "Zope3, Reloaded" for all the matrix fans out there? :)
The idea of release code names adds a little spice. Most people like
spices on their food, so why not on t
Marko Mikulicic wrote:
On 02.03.2006., at 12:41, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
I'm with Max on this one.
What's the point? To save a few megabytes of harddisk space?
If you don't want the zope.bobo part of your zope3, ignore it. You
don't have to use it if you don't want to.
not sure of what to t
Hello,
I've been assigned to present Zope in a local upcoming Python user group
meeting. As part of the assignment, I'm supposed to solve the PyWebOff
challenge using Zope:
http://pyre.third-bit.com/pyweb/challenge.html
I'd like to do this using Zope 3. However, I'm really struggling. I
Chapter 27 of the Zope 3 book and the docstring for IPrincipal in Zope
3.2 both suggest Zope has the ability to provide a browser view of
principal annotations. That would be a really great bit of
functionality to have! Unfortunately, AFAICT, the system doesn't work
at all in Zope 3.2. The Zope
Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Was this an accident? Did it work at one time? Are there plans to make
> principal annotation views work again? And how can I edit user
> annotations in the meanwhile?
No one knows, I guess. After spending many days on a seemingly simple
problem, I've
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Tom Dossis wrote:
> Tom Dossis wrote:
>>
>> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>>> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>>>> Was this an accident? Did it work at one time? Are there plans to
>>>> make
>>>> pri
Tom Dossis wrote:
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>> Thanks for helping me over a hurdle. You'd think a Zope 2 veteran like
>> me would have little trouble with Zope 3
>
> Maybe that has something to do with it.
>
> We switched from zope2/cmf/plone to zope3 early
Jeff Shell wrote:
Argh. Darn that user group meeting being down in Utah Valley. Don't
they consider the fact that there may be Utahn's who still try to
cling to a car-free urban lifestyle notion (especially when they live
and work on the same block)? :) Tell them to come up by my house.
Terrific
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 4/3/06, Reinhold Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am searching for a way to change transparently the storage of ZODB from
file-base to a relational database. In general, Zope books state, that this is
possible.
Yes. By changing the storage from FileStorage to som
Benji York wrote:
Gary Poster wrote:
"z" has also been proposed. :-)
That strikes me as a good replacement for "z3c".
What about "zf", for Zope Foundation?
Shane
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Roger Ineichen wrote:
> I didn't say we should start the refactoring today or tomrrow.
> But it whould be a good idea to talk about this painfull piece
> of work. My personal wish is to see some dicussion about how
> we do it instead of if we should do it now or later.
The best thing to do now is
David Pratt wrote:
> Hi Shane, Roger and list. Personally, I think there needs to be
> prioritization myself beginning with the essential packages to zca. zodb
> would be next. I am not sure about anything else. My feeling is the rest
> might need to be considered legacy. It would be unrealistic
Edward Zwart wrote:
> Grok is not an option for this project
Too bad, because Grok was made for you. :-)
Zope 3.4 is not documented very well from a newcomer's perspective.
Most of it only has reference documentation. Grok is Zope 3 plus
narrative documentation and shortcuts.
Another alternat
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