Oliver, you've gotta tell Michael your thoughts on this. AFAIK, they're
further developing the CHOP's route as it's been well received on the
whole. Let them know that you prefer VOPs and they might make relevant
accommodations.

On 2 November 2017 at 21:16, Olivier Jeannel <[email protected]> wrote:

> If I knew how to talk to the SRT at obj level the constraint orient would
> be trivial to do in vop...
>
> 2017-11-02 21:56 GMT+01:00 Graham D. Clark <[email protected]>:
>
>> I prefer the new setup in CHOPs, but its still hard to *SEE* in one view
>> what's going on, so hopefully they move CHOPs along with everything else
>> into VOPs so we can make sense of it all in one place to change world local
>> space, geo, etc just like in ICE.
>>
>> Graham D Clark
>> phone: why-I-stereo
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imdb.me_grahamdclark&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=yvG9_ptkoYgPFWGuhlKoiMGQtfVYs9nJjIujQtcL8J0&s=JNnc8IbUuOc9G58svjaUm-aO5gE-n84tAOJ0rGhwPsQ&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imdb.me_grahamdclark&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=PYzfW3IPj66xA_eMIVqDWM23dj0QZfHa62cLHUWbJJ4&s=a4tq_lW3stk1lhafVGxpRmVBcgj1pmp7M6hl58LzDv8&e=>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_grahamclark&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=yvG9_ptkoYgPFWGuhlKoiMGQtfVYs9nJjIujQtcL8J0&s=tOMWisHPBcJSCgBbrN1sSllzqqV_ycnXtj0aDiCIRzI&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_grahamclark&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=PYzfW3IPj66xA_eMIVqDWM23dj0QZfHa62cLHUWbJJ4&s=gHZGmBMLjoUFojxbv0S6mgmhf_4NxeS9jkwjUC-A_5o&e=>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Olivier Jeannel <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I'm "discovering" the constraint behaviour in Houdini (never used it
>>> before whatever version).
>>>
>>> So, I'm using that new "LookAt" in the Constraint shelf and it builds
>>> that Chop constraint.
>>>
>>> Where I'm confused, is that while the geometry is aligned at SOP level
>>> (ie : faces prims are aligned), but in fact the Axis at Object level is not.
>>>
>>> I think this join this previous discussion (about parenting)
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__softimage.69864.x6.nabble.com_Houdini-2Dhierarchical-2Dor&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=yvG9_ptkoYgPFWGuhlKoiMGQtfVYs9nJjIujQtcL8J0&s=8z-2QU7EorHMWELMIeXrK1DzJYG4bs6Xhjn8DtkrrCI&e=
>>> ganization-td7448.html#a7452
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__softimage.69864.x6.nabble.com_Houdini-2Dhierarchical-2Dorganization-2Dtd7448.html-23a7452&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=6hKmIhbgsv2JRt1M_MJvWhgzPYKi_El_WfmUvdTGo0s&s=L7lWivTl4Jzgak0PbKQ9aNRsc65B0RyvJONZ8AdruG0&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is confusing because you can no more transform object in local
>>> space (viewport manipulation).
>>> Or, for example, Constraint Lookup a Spot Light, and all the gizmo get
>>> off.
>>>
>>> But maybe I missed something obvious.
>>>
>>>
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