VACList DigestVACList-Digest Thursday, July 11, 2002 Issue 361
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Rest Area "Camping"
2. Re: Rest Area "Camping"
3. Re: '74 Argosy 22 service manual?
4. Purchasing a Trailer out of Canada
5. Europe news
6. Re: Rest Area "Camping"
7. Re: Rest Area "Camping"
8. Re: Rest Area "Camping"
9. Euro Airstream Silver Streak
10. Re: Rest Area "Camping"
11. Re: Whitewall Spare for 62 Bambi
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:52:42 -0500
From: Kevin D Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rest Area "Camping"
Greetings Dave and Ann!
I know that it is technically illegal to "camp" overnight at Interstate
Highway Rest Areas in most states.
But, sometimes I dont have the luxury of a leisurely drive, stopping in
the
early evenings at a "real" campground. So I pull over in the truck
parking
area of an Interstate Highway Rest Area, lower the tongue jack enough to
take the weight off the truck ball, crawl into my trailer bed and call
it a
night.
I was wondering if anyone has gotten into trouble doing this, either by
having the Highway Patrol waking them up and making them move on, or by
receiving a ticket?
I have never received a ticket, but an Illinois State Highway Officer
woke us shortly before 5 a.m. one morning in 1970 when we had parked for
more than 3-hours in a rest area along Interstate 57 in central
Illinois. We were simply advised to move on that stays of more then
3-hours were prohibited. We were in our home state less than 100 miles
from home and had stopped simply because we had overestimated the travel
time between the Covered Bridge Festival in Indiana and our home in
northern Illinois.
This is a method that I have only tried twice - - and both instances
were the result of overestimating travel times (days before laptop
computers and Rand McNally Trip Maker) and I was traveling with other
family members. I was terribly uneasy both times when in a truck camper
with immediate access between cab and camper - - I have never felt safe
considering doing this with my trailer - - especially with the number of
horror stories we have had in Illinois with murders and violent attacks
in rest areas over the past two decades. I also am a FreeWheeler so I
am traveling solo most of the time which helps to influence my
accommodation decisions.
I know that security can be an issue as well. Any thoughts on that
point?
Dave
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Dave & Ann Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WBCCI: 5074
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:02:02 -0600
From: Jere Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rest Area "Camping"
on 7/10/02 12:46 PM, David W. Lowrey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I know that it is technically illegal to "camp" overnight at Interstate
> Highway Rest Areas in most states.
>
> But, sometimes I dont have the luxury of a leisurely drive, stopping in the
> early evenings at a "real" campground. So I pull over in the truck parking
> area of an Interstate Highway Rest Area, lower the tongue jack enough to
> take the weight off the truck ball, crawl into my trailer bed and call it a
> night.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has gotten into trouble doing this, either by
> having the Highway Patrol waking them up and making them move on, or by
> receiving a ticket?
>
> I know that security can be an issue as well. Any thoughts on that point?
>
> Dave
We've had no problems with this, even have some "favorite" rest areas that
we plan on pausing for the first & last nights of some long trips out. Good
spots can be tourist "welcome centers" that serve free coffee in the
morning, have maps, brochures, weather reports, etc. Don't worry about
overstaying your welcome- Consider yourself lucky that you can just climb in
back, and get a decent nights' sleep.
Usually, I find, that the later you pull in, the less selection for parking
you find. It is not ideal to be right between two idling diesels, but not
either in the area where lots of people come & go during the night to use
the facilities. Of course, basic precautions include locking the doors,
having cell phone & flashlight handy. I have thought of having pepper spray
handy, but have not gotten any. If someone where to bother us, I could also
use the trucks' alarm panic button. But we have not had any threatening
incidents, whether in crowded or isolated areas.
Oh, and don't let any fluids onto the ground from your drains.
Jere Potter
Ft Collins, CO
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:02:18 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '74 Argosy 22 service manual?
The Argosy is wired with the same methods as the Airstreams of that era. They
are as you describe with the main galley's in the ceiling with drops to the
sides. The circuit breaker box is on the roadside near the floor.
Charlie
Chris Bryant wrote:
> Mr. Joy H. Hansen wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I purchased a '74 Argosy 22 and find that the electrical system is
> >hopelessly screwed up. Have dead shorts between hot, neutral, and ground.
> >The owner's manual isn't much help.
> >
> >Is there a service manual much like those available for Airstream units?
> >
> >If not, does anyone have an electrical schematic for the '74 Argosy 22 with
> >the rear curb side entry?
>
> I've emailed Airstream schematics to Argosy owners, but they
> are *apparently* enough different so as to be not useful- but..
> I *think* that the Argosy will be wired in the same way as the
> Airstream0 all of the wiring runs in the center of the ceiling- 120
> volt on one side, 12 volt on the other, and runs from here down to
> each fixture.
> I would start at all the fixtures, though- I find the problems
> are usually there.
>
> --
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:32:47 -0700
From: "Alec Fisken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Purchasing a Trailer out of Canada
David - I called U.S. Customs agents in Seattle when I was thinking of
buying a trailer in Canada. The officer said as long as it was evident the
trailer was made in the U.S., there would be no duties (thanks to NAFTA) and
no problem bringing it across the border. I asked if the manufacturer's
nameplate with Jackson Center OH was good enough and she thought "yes". I
assume having manuals would be even better. Just to be sure, try calling the
Customs people in the vicinity of where you'll cross.
Kathy Fisken
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Message Number: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:16:29 +0100
From: "Anthony Slocock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Europe news
For those interested in European news, a group of Airstream owners met up at
an Americana rally in Newark, Nottinghamshire, UK last weekend. The 'group'
was put together by Sarah Jane (www.airstream-caravans.com) and Jason Reed
(www.airstreamvacationsusa.com) and about 6 Airstreams in one place made it
the biggest gathering to date in this country to my knowledge. We all had a
good time.
I directed Tom Patterson's posted request yesterday from a Holland
enthusiast onto Sarah Jane & Jason who occasionally deal in Airstreams and
have several for sale now. Hopefully they will be able to help.
Nick Sowter from the UK is travelling in the USA currently with his
Overlander & Burb combination and maybe some of you have seen him, if not,
keep a look out!
Anyone wanting any info/ advice about Airstreams in Europe please get in
touch!
Have a great summer. I'll be coming over again in the Autumn.
Anthony Slocock
'56 Bubble
'59 Pacer
www.eurostream.co.uk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 05:13:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug and Terry Rowbottom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rest Area "Camping"
Hello Dave;
We have done this many times along the Hwy 75 corridor
from Canada to Florida, usually we use the welcome
centers. They have trailer dumps in some of them and a
place to get water. We move in near the building under
a light and away from the trucks if posible and have
never been bothered.
We asked about the sign in Georgia that says no
overnight parking and was told that was there so they
could get rid of trouble makers, and we could stay all
night. They would rather see us there then asleep at
the wheel.
If the rest area is busy we use our Walmart map to
find the local supercenter and have never been
bothered at one of them either. We check in with the
manager and park where they ask us to.
Doug and Terry
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:46:42 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rest Area "Camping"
Try the Flying J truck stops. They are safer and welcome RVs. I also think
that most of the other major truck stops also are following suit and
allowing RVs to spend the night at no cost. They would prefer you buy a
tank of gas or at least coffee before you leave though.
Randy
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:07:20 -0400
From: "Thomas LaVergne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rest Area "Camping"
<I have thought of having pepper spray
handy, but have not gotten any. .
Jere Potter
Ft Collins, CO>
Just a note on pepper spray. Be careful if you ever have to use it. If the
wind is blowing it could make it ineffective or blow it back in your face
putting you on the ground and not the bad guy. Also, be careful using it in
a tight space, like a trailer doorway, as it will fill your trailer with the
stuff. I am a police officer and have found through training that you
really have to practice with the stuff and be aware of environmental
conditions that you are using it in or you will be the one incapacitated and
not the bad guy. Most pepper spray is in an aerosol form and can be blown
easily...there is also a product on the market that is foam based and that
has less of a tendency to blow around...it will also stick to your attacker
better. Also be aware that some times it just plain won't work on certain
people. I am not saying not to carry it, I am just saying to be careful or
you could get hurt.
Thomas #8848
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:52:00 -0500
From: "Todd McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Euro Airstream Silver Streak
dudes/dudettes,
Just got back froma month in Europe We stayed in a real nice camper park in
Calais FR on the beach! and it was SCHWEEET! We rented a bungalow
(furnished) for Eur.38. I see the trailers are smaller and lighter than
their U.S. trailers so check tow rating of tow vehicle and trailer weight
before ya'll just buy and airstream, my 1968 Safari is 6.7 meters&1,575
Kilogrms. 22'X3,500lbs.
I would get a pro to shop for one here to avoid repairs in Eur.
There is a guy in Peru, Indiana USA who does great affordable restoration
and I think would be a good agent. I bought mine from them. At least you
know you are starting out with everything working good that way.
I would try to find a cool/trustworthy American Military guy/gal to ship it
over free on their vehicle shipper pass, if they still do that sort of
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:05:10 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rest Area "Camping"
Lowering the tongue jack is a sure sign to officials that you are camping
and not resting. It's best to stay in roadworthy condition while at rest
stops. For example I wouldn't open my awning.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
> I pull over in the truck
> parking
> area of an Interstate Highway Rest Area, lower the tongue jack enough to
>
> take the weight off the truck ball, crawl into my trailer bed and call
> it a
> night.
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:51:10 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whitewall Spare for 62 Bambi
The three US makers that still make a wide whitewall that fits the 13"
Bambi are US Royal, BF Goodrich & Firestone. So, dealers are
everywhere - they may have to order them, so a weekend install may be
iffy.
Online, Coker Tire is a great resource for finding these tires, with
pictures & part #'s. You can even order them online and have them
installed local if you have a loser dealership that doesn't want to
bother to look 'em up.
http://www.coker.com
& enter "whitewall" into the search.
Best of luck,
RJ
> From: "Kit Sullivan Mac.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 18:33:24 -0400
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC] Whitewall Spare for 62 Bambi
> I was wondering if anyone has a source for whitewall tires for a 62 Bambi?
> I am looking to get a full spare with whitewall tire before a trip this
> weekend. Thank you!
> The Sullivan's
> '62 Bambi
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