VACList DigestVACList-Digest Tuesday, July 23, 2002 Issue 373
Today's Topics:
1. Help W/ comparing years
2. 3-way refridgerator
3. Re: Help W/ comparing years
4. Re: Help W/ comparing years
5. Re: Help W/ comparing years
6. Re: Help W/ comparing years
7. Re: 3-way refridgerator - charging system
8. Travel Trailer IMHO
9. Re: 3-way refridgerator
10. how to fix the bowed flooring at the doorway of a 59 Traveler
11. Re: 3-way refridgerator
12. Re: Help W/ comparing years
13. Re: right angle screwdrivers
14. Re: 3-way refridgerator
15. Re: right angle screwdrivers
16. Re: Help W/ comparing years
17. Re: Help W/ comparing years
18. Antennae service help
19. Re: Antennae service help
20. Manuals
21. Re: Help W/ comparing years
22. Re: Manuals
23. Re: Help W/ comparing years
24. help w/comparing years
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Message Number: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:12:56 -0700
From: Rivka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help W/ comparing years
Can one of you send me to a good place to read over what the ups and
downs of certain years are , i have to pick between two that are
otherwise pretty equal, I know much more about mid 60's personally,
but i do know they are on the opposite sides of a very huge change
over. being a '69 and a '74. i know i have seen good pages for this
info , and am blanking on where.
help!
need to pick one very soon
thanks so much
>Rivka & "Destiny"
My '66 Airstream Ambassador (soon to be getting a sister)
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Message Number: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:13:57 -0700
From: "Alec Fisken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3-way refridgerator
Kevin Allen said "Be sure that you have adequate charge line from tow
vehicle and that there is some method employed to avoid draining the tow
vehicle's battery should the trailer house battery be depleted."
So here's the dumb question of the day: how will I know if the Suburban is
charging the trailer's battery while driving? I know the connection is
hooked up correctly, but that's about all. If it is charging (assuming I can
figure that out), then would it be supplying enough power (whenever we're
driving) to run the fridge without running down the trailer battery? Or the
tow vehicle battery?
A second question I have is what kind of jack would I need to change a tire
on a 72 Globetrotter (single axle)? Any chance my Suburban jack would work?
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. We're about to take the
Globetrotter on its first long trip, and expect to learn a lot on the way!
Kathy Fisken, Seattle WA
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Message Number: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:29:31 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
Rivka,
Check all the tambour doors carefully in the '74.
The "70's" Airstreams all have their tambour doors made out of plastic. The
ones in the "early" 70's have a tendency to separate. Later on, they
started to put a backing on them, so they are less likely to fall apart.
When I was looking to buy one, I saw a lot of ealy '70s Airstreams with
this problem. The '77 Sovereign we eventually bought doesnt have this problem.
Unfortunately, I dont know when they switched to the "better" ones. Maybe
someone else on the list knows.
Dave
At 05:12 PM 7/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Can one of you send me to a good place to read over what the ups and downs
>of certain years are , i have to pick between two that are otherwise
>pretty equal, I know much more about mid 60's personally, but i do know
>they are on the opposite sides of a very huge change over. being a '69 and
>a '74. i know i have seen good pages for this info , and am blanking on where.
>help!
>need to pick one very soon
>
>thanks so much
>
>>Rivka & "Destiny"
>My '66 Airstream Ambassador (soon to be getting a sister)
>
>
>
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WBCCI: 5074
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:22:50 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
Dave, it was not as of the ' 73 models. I had a ' 73 Sovereign International
and the tambour doors were backed with paper. I replaced them all a few
years later after they came apart with new material the had a heavy cloth
backing. Some owners have repaired the early tambour doors by gluing a cloth
backing on them. Less expensive than buying and fitting new tambour material
as I did.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind (wood doors)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Lowrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 20:29
Subject: [VAC] Re: Help W/ comparing years
> Rivka,
>
> Check all the tambour doors carefully in the '74.
>
> The "70's" Airstreams all have their tambour doors made out of plastic.
The
> ones in the "early" 70's have a tendency to separate. Later on, they
> started to put a backing on them, so they are less likely to fall apart.
> When I was looking to buy one, I saw a lot of ealy '70s Airstreams with
> this problem. The '77 Sovereign we eventually bought doesnt have this
problem.
>
> Unfortunately, I dont know when they switched to the "better" ones. Maybe
> someone else on the list knows.
>
> Dave
>
> At 05:12 PM 7/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Can one of you send me to a good place to read over what the ups and
downs
> >of certain years are , i have to pick between two that are otherwise
> >pretty equal, I know much more about mid 60's personally, but i do know
> >they are on the opposite sides of a very huge change over. being a '69
and
> >a '74. i know i have seen good pages for this info , and am blanking on
where.
> >help!
> >need to pick one very soon
> >
> >thanks so much
> >
> >>Rivka & "Destiny"
> >My '66 Airstream Ambassador (soon to be getting a sister)
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
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>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Dave & Ann Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> WBCCI: 5074
>
> 1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
> Cincinnati, Ohio
>
>
>
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Message Number: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:47:24 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
"Check all the tambour doors carefully in the '74.
The "70's" Airstreams all have their tambour doors made out of plastic. The
ones in the "early" 70's have a tendency to separate. Later on, they
started to put a backing on them, so they are less likely to fall apart.
When I was looking to buy one, I saw a lot of early '70s Airstreams with
this problem. The '77 Sovereign we eventually bought doesn't have this
problem."
One thing I have found out is that it's dangerous to make a definitive
statement about vintage Airstreams. I have a 1975 Sovereign, and all the
tambours are wood, not plastic. And there is a cloth backing, too.
Nothing beats personal inspection and comparison.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:33:03 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
In a '74, you get a grey water tank. On the other hand, light weight
plastic is used throughout. See, I actually like plastic... but not
everyone does...
Daisy
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Message Number: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:43:37 -0400
From: "Weimers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3-way refridgerator - charging system
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alec Fisken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So here's the dumb question of the day: how will I know if the Suburban is
> charging the trailer's battery while driving?
I disconected my trailer battery while the car was plugged in (to the
trailer). My interior (trailer) lights still worked, so I assumed I had
power coming in from the car. When I disconnected the trailer battery, I
made sure that the disconnected wire didn't hit anything, since I believe it
was off the positive terminal (which was closest to reach). Then I used a
volt meter to see if I had charging power. Without the engine running, the
voltage should be 12 volt. With the engine running, it should be 13.5 volts.
I never saw this much voltage at the trailer battery, however. It seems to
charge anyway. (It must do it pretty slowly).
I also mounted a second battery in the tow vehicle so my trailer wouldn't
drain out the battery I use to start the engine. This system has worked well
for me over the years. I think I would do better if I put a larger gauge
wire in the charging line from the car, however.
>
> A second question I have is what kind of jack would I need to change a
tire
> on a 72 Globetrotter (single axle)? Any chance my Suburban jack would
work?
>
I use a sissors jack on my '71 Globe Trotter (single axle). My car uses an
old fashioned bumper jack, so obviously, the car jack won't work for me! I
have ST225x15(load range D) radial tires on the GTand I find they are very
difficult to remove from the trailer. Actually, they are harder to get back
on. I found that I can get the tire on easier if I drain all the air out of
it. So I carry an electric tire pump too. The original equipment bias ply
tires were a tight fit also, but not as bad as the radials. Better try this
at home so you don't wind up doing it for the first time while on the road!
(I have never had a flat tire on the road). While you're at it you can check
the brakes and the bearings (I discovered that I had to replace one of my
bearings this year).
MARC WEIMER
Punxsutawney, PA - Home of the Groundhog
#15767
1963 Globe Trotter
1971 Globe Trotter
http://users.penn.com/~mweimer/weimer.html
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Message Number: 8
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:53:16 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Travel Trailer IMHO
In a message dated 7/22/02 5:00:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Trailer Travel" IMHO
IMHO: if this book is printed by Chronicle books,
$17.50 is probably right (or high) for the quality of
the binding etc.
of course to many of us, the content is invaluable.
thumbs up for the content, thumbs down on Chronicle
books "quality control."
Toby >>
Hiya T, where've you been hiding?
I saw a little sample of this book a few months ago when I ran into Bryan in
Auburn:)....it's photos only pretty much:)
Wendy
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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:47:19 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3-way refridgerator
The resistance of a small but long charging wire will slow the charging
of the trailer battery. It also prevents there being enough current when
a discharged trailer battery is connected to burn the wire off. If one
connects a discharged battery to a fully charged battery with short
heavy wires the initial charging current can be in the hundreds of amps.
If one accidentally shorts a charged battery the short circuit current
can be a thousand amps and that tends to burn off wires smaller than the
heavy starter wires of 4 gauge or larger.
A proper connection in the tow vehicle will use either an alternator
isolator or a relay that is connected only when the engine is running.
Either will charge the trailer battery only when the tow vehicle engine
is running.
There are a few ways to check for proper trailer battery charging.
You can use an accurate digital voltmeter to compare the tow vehicle and
trailer battery terminal voltages while charging, after a bit of
traveling. If the trailer battery is charging properly, the two voltages
will be the same, somewhere between 13.8 volts and 14.2 volts while the
engine is running. If the battery voltages match at the end of the trip,
the trailer battery is being fully charged.
You can check the trailer battery charging current by adding an ammeter
(just like one for after market dash panel use) to the trailer charging
wire and watch it go towards zero while driving. If there's a
refrigerator load, it should reach a minimum average (if the
refrigerator cycles) some less than the refrigerator current, or the
refrigerator current if the refrigerator doesn't go on and off.
You can make that check less conveniently but easier to wire by
acquiring an alternator and starter test ammeter that slips next to the
wire. It has a small slot for the charging wire and a large one for the
starter wire. Use the small one and look for the trailer battery
charging current to go down to zero with the refrigerator off after some
time.
You can go with an e-meter like used for solar powered systems. It
meters power in and out of the battery to display a constant level of
energy available in the battery.
A decent digital voltmeter can be used for many troubleshooting tasks
around the wiring system and can be had for $20 upwards to $200. The $50
or so units are probably reliable enough to carry.
The wired in ammeter will take a bit of heavy wire and the meter with
mounting bracket can be had in automotive (and farm supply) stores for
$4 to $8 or from J.C. Whitney by mail.
The slip on meter should be in a few auto supply stores, the one I use
came from Sears a couple decades ago, or maybe J.C. Whitney. Probably
costs $15 these days if it can be found. There are clamp on ammeters,
but the ones with reasonable prices don't work for DC. The ones that
work for DC cost $200 and up.
The e-meter comes from places who supply solar panels for electric
energy. It tends to run over $200 but gives the most complete
information. It can also let you know when the battery is getting very
low and that loads should be removed to protect the battery from being
over discharged. Though dimming of the lights should tell you most of
that anyway.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:57:33 -0700
From: "C. Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to fix the bowed flooring at the doorway of a 59 Traveler
Hello all,
I'm looking for some advice about the floor at the doorway of my 59
Traveler. I've stripped the layers of flooring down to the plywood. Here's
the problem: The floor is bowed up across the doorway. There seems to be
nothing to fasten it down to. What's there is the flat iron that is the
handle for the step. I'd appreciate any suggestions, advice or experience
you might have that could help me.
Thank you.
Cindy
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Message Number: 11
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:28:26 -0400
From: "Weimers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3-way refridgerator
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The resistance of a small but long charging wire will slow the charging
> of the trailer battery. It also prevents there being enough current when
> a discharged trailer battery is connected to burn the wire off.If one
> connects a discharged battery to a fully charged battery with short
> heavy wires the initial charging current can be in the hundreds of amps.
> If one accidentally shorts a charged battery the short circuit current
> can be a thousand amps and that tends to burn off wires smaller than the
> heavy starter wires of 4 gauge or larger.
Isn't that why you should have a fuse, or better yet, a circuit breaker in
the line someplace?
I have a 30amp circuit breaker in mine.
MARC WEIMER
Punxsutawney, PA
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Message Number: 12
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:56:39 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
Daisy, I didn't realize the ' 74 Airstreams had gray water tanks. My ' 73
Sovereign International didn't. Must have started in ' 74 then. Correct?
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daisy Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 23:33
Subject: [VAC] Re: Help W/ comparing years
> In a '74, you get a grey water tank. On the other hand, light weight
> plastic is used throughout. See, I actually like plastic... but not
> everyone does...
>
> Daisy
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:36:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: jon fitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: right angle screwdrivers
I know this is probably too obvious for the
experienced listees, but maybe this will help some
newer folks.
Another convenient way to get a right angle
screwdriver is to put an interchangable screwdriver
bit into a socket of the appropriate size. If you
have a set of 1/4" drive sockets and a ratchet, it
works very nicely. You can get bits in a wide variety
of types and lengths. You can buy the bits
individually for well under a dollar or in huge
variety packs. You can use drive extensions and
flexible drives, too. A wide range of pieces-parts
can really save you some headaches when working in a
tight spot.
I have had great difficulty bending screwdrivers,
allen wrenches, etc. They're usually not very
ductile. This is how I ended up using a socket drive
so much.
Jon in SC
68 Overlander
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Message Number: 14
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:58:50 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3-way refridgerator
True there needs to be fuse or circuit breaker protection for the
charging wire, ON BOTH ENDs. Since there are energy sources, batteries,
at both ends, protection from ground faults (e.g. shorts) is required at
both sources. That adds resistance to limit the charging further but it
can prevent a disaster. A piece of #6 10' long shorted at the end away
from the battery burns off the insulation in a few seconds. About that
time solder from the solder lugs drips. And as the insulation sloughs
off, there's potential for shorts closer to the battery to increase the
fault current and the wire temperature.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 15
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:58:58 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: right angle screwdrivers
You can make a very close coupled right angle screwdriver (short and
close to the work) using the 5/16" ratchet sold for side post batteries
and 5/16" hex screwdriver bits. I think I saw some bits that size in
Sears next to their hammer impact driver. I know I bought an assortment
for just that purpose from McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com) a few years
ago.
Some of the 1/4 and 5/16" hex bits are very strong, some are not. You
get lots of torque with a wrench, lots more than a screwdriver, so the
bit strength is critical. Except for square drive screws, it takes a lot
of force towards the screw to keep flat blade and phillips drivers in
the screw head.
There are competitors to phillips that to the casual observation look
like phillips, but the phillips driver doesn't fit well. One has a
little star turned 45 degrees from the main slots. Called Posidrive. Its
worth knuckle skin to have Posidrive bits because they fit those screws
(and won't go in real phillips). The other that is common is called Reed
and Prince. Its closer to phillips by eye except that the junction
between the cross slots is square unlike the rounded phillips junction.
Sometimes a small sized phillips driver will fit a Reed and Prince. Then
there's ISO phillips often in Japanese and European imported products.
The differences are subtle and ISO phillips drivers are hard to find but
the difference in fit is phenomenal. Using American phillips drivers in
ISO screws usually results in damaged screw heads. ISO drivers don't
rattle. Cross slot screwdrivers don't respond well to reshaping when
worn. Straight blade screwdrivers need to have square ends with sharp
corners and blades the width of the screw head and thickness to exactly
match the screw slot, else they will slip and damage screw heads and
sometimes surrounding materials.
Sears still guarantees their tools against damage and I've heard of them
replacing twisted screwdrivers when they didn't stand up to the added
wrench.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 16
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:49:55 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
I have a 71 soveriegn land yacht,The tamours are in pretty good condition. I
wonder if it has to do with higher end models. I am interested in the groups
thoughts on this.
gina
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>Rivka,
>
>Check all the tambour doors carefully in the '74.
>
>The "70's" Airstreams all have their tambour doors made out of plastic. The
>ones in the "early" 70's have a tendency to separate. Later on, they
>started to put a backing on them, so they are less likely to fall apart.
>When I was looking to buy one, I saw a lot of ealy '70s Airstreams with
>this problem. The '77 Sovereign we eventually bought doesnt have this
>problem.
>
>Unfortunately, I dont know when they switched to the "better" ones. Maybe
>someone else on the list knows.
>
>Dave
>
>At 05:12 PM 7/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>Can one of you send me to a good place to read over what the ups and downs
>>of certain years are , i have to pick between two that are otherwise
>>pretty equal, I know much more about mid 60's personally, but i do know
>>they are on the opposite sides of a very huge change over. being a '69 and
>>a '74. i know i have seen good pages for this info , and am blanking on
>>where.
>>help!
>>need to pick one very soon
>>
>>thanks so much
>>
>>>Rivka & "Destiny"
>>My '66 Airstream Ambassador (soon to be getting a sister)
>>
>>
>>
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>
>WBCCI: 5074
>
>1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
>Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 17
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:03:08 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
good idea Jim
gina
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>Dave, it was not as of the ' 73 models. I had a ' 73 Sovereign
>International
>and the tambour doors were backed with paper. I replaced them all a few
>years later after they came apart with new material the had a heavy cloth
>backing. Some owners have repaired the early tambour doors by gluing a
>cloth
>backing on them. Less expensive than buying and fitting new tambour
>material
>as I did.
>
>Jim Greene
>' 68 Tradewind (wood doors)
>
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>From: "Dave Lowrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 20:29
>Subject: [VAC] Re: Help W/ comparing years
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> > Rivka,
> >
> > Check all the tambour doors carefully in the '74.
> >
> > The "70's" Airstreams all have their tambour doors made out of plastic.
>The
> > ones in the "early" 70's have a tendency to separate. Later on, they
> > started to put a backing on them, so they are less likely to fall apart.
> > When I was looking to buy one, I saw a lot of ealy '70s Airstreams with
> > this problem. The '77 Sovereign we eventually bought doesnt have this
>problem.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I dont know when they switched to the "better" ones.
>Maybe
> > someone else on the list knows.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 05:12 PM 7/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Can one of you send me to a good place to read over what the ups and
>downs
> > >of certain years are , i have to pick between two that are otherwise
> > >pretty equal, I know much more about mid 60's personally, but i do know
> > >they are on the opposite sides of a very huge change over. being a '69
>and
> > >a '74. i know i have seen good pages for this info , and am blanking on
>where.
> > >help!
> > >need to pick one very soon
> > >
> > >thanks so much
> > >
> > >>Rivka & "Destiny"
> > >My '66 Airstream Ambassador (soon to be getting a sister)
> > >
> > >
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> > WBCCI: 5074
> >
> > 1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
> > Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 18
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:43:54 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Antennae service help
Hi All,
My TV antennae is inoperative, won't crank up/down/swing from the crank
inside.
How do I get to the guts to see what's wrong. There's a nasty caulk around
the outside base of the antennae and the inside only has a 2 inch cover for
the shaft.
Are parts available to repair the units? Or, what usually breaks to cause
the malfunction.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
'74 Argosy, Joy
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Message Number: 19
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:18:36 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Antennae service help
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:43:54 -0400, "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>My TV antennae is inoperative, won't crank up/down/swing from the crank
>inside.
>
>How do I get to the guts to see what's wrong. There's a nasty caulk around
>the outside base of the antennae and the inside only has a 2 inch cover for
>the shaft.
>
>Are parts available to repair the units? Or, what usually breaks to cause
>the malfunction.
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
there is a good picture for this in the manual for the trailer. Have you looked
in yours? you need a hex wrench to remove the handle, then a socket for a nut.
parts are available which are stronger than the original plastic. Strong winds
one night in a campsite on teh Whittington Ctr at Raton, NM broke mine off.
I have all the parts in teh trailer to repair mine.
if you do not have a manual, buy one from VAC.
fwiw
chas
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WBCCI #1130 VAC S*M*A*R*T '76 Sovereign
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Message Number: 20
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:45:40 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Manuals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] keeps referring you to the VAC for manuals.
Some manuals are available on line at the VAC website in the Members Only
archives section. If the manual is not there, you can get photocopies of
owners manual (1964+) and service manuals (1972-1986) from:
Helen Davis Secretarial Services PO Box 484 Sidney, OH 45365 (937)492-8885
For more information, go to http://www.airstream.net/faqs.html
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 21
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:35:20 -0400
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
Jim,
IIRC, Excellas had grey water tanks in '73, and the rest of the line got them
in '74.
Matt
James Greene wrote:
> Daisy, I didn't realize the ' 74 Airstreams had gray water tanks. My ' 73
> Sovereign International didn't. Must have started in ' 74 then. Correct?
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daisy Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 23:33
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Help W/ comparing years
>
> > In a '74, you get a grey water tank. On the other hand, light weight
> > plastic is used throughout. See, I actually like plastic... but not
> > everyone does...
> >
> > Daisy
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WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
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Message Number: 22
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:41:19 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Manuals
There are currently 2 owners manuals for sale on eBay. '72 A/S and '77
Argosy. 3 days 22 hours left on each at 5:40 pm EST on 7/23/02
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Message Number: 23
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:00:07 -0400
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help W/ comparing years
Hi Gina,
IIRC and have been properly informed (guess you know how much that's worth),
paper backed tambours (which are the ones that crack at a serious glance) were
replaced by fabric in the '74s. One of the things I checked for when we bought
our '75 was that the tambours were fabric backed. Of course I never checked ALL
the tambours, and have since discovered that the overhead cabinets in the
wardrobe area are paper. Must have been leftovers from the '74 model year.
Don't you just HATE when that happens?
:^(>
Matt
gina terrell wrote:
> I have a 71 soveriegn land yacht,The tamours are in pretty good condition. I
> wonder if it has to do with higher end models. I am interested in the groups
> thoughts on this.
> gina
>
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Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
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Message Number: 24
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:33:03 -0400
From: Ron Ainsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help w/comparing years
Our 72 has a gray water tank. Just in case anybody wants to know.
Ron and Barbara Ainsworth
'72 Ambassador International 29'
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