VACList DigestVACList-Digest Monday, July 22, 2002 Issue 372
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Armstrong A/C Shroud
2. Airstream facts
3. Re: Airstream facts
4. Re: Airstream facts
5. Re: Airstream facts
6. Re: UNIVOLT Question
7. Re: Airstream facts
8. Upper Cabinet Hinge Screws
9. Mysterious Cotter Pins
10. Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
11. Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
12. Re:
13. Re:
14. Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
15. Bill Mosko - 69 Sovereign Land Yacht
16. Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
17. Traveling with satellite TV
18. Zip Dee for Dick
19. Re: "Trailer Travel" IMHO
20. Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
21. Re: After Stripping....
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:19:41 -0400
From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Armstrong A/C Shroud
Hello Dana,
I have one that I have saved off my 68, contact me off line to work out
the details.
Thanks
Ed
WBCCI 4425
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Dana Kelley
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:46 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Armstrong A/C Shroud
If anyone has an old Armstrong TR21-12 shroud (cover) laying around
please
let me know. We've been looking for one for about 3 yrs. now. I just
can't
see paying $300 for one from A/S parts place. The thing is so old, it
would
be my luck it would go out if I paid that much for it. I would be
willing
to pay you a resonable price plus shipping of course. We would be most
grateful.
DSK in TEXAS
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:48:42 -0400
From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Airstream facts
http://www.wbcci1.org/whathappen/manfhist.htm
This is a very nice link that will answer a lot of questions about our
Airstream trailers, when they came out, who owned the company and so
much more. Thought I'd share this one with the group.
Tom
I've been thinking outside the box for so long, now they won't let me
back inside.
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:04:21 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream facts
There seems to be something very wrong with that link. When I click it,
Outlook Express freezes up and has to be stopped in order to do anything.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:37:49 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream facts
Works fine for me.
I use Eudora to read the mail. I click the link and IE pops right up with
the web page.
Dave
At 07:04 PM 7/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>There seems to be something very wrong with that link. When I click it,
>Outlook Express freezes up and has to be stopped in order to do anything.
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>Roger Hightower
>WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
>1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
>Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:46:45 -0400
From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream facts
Works fine for me, just did it again.
Try opening up your browser and then copy and paste the URL. That
should work.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Airstream facts
: There seems to be something very wrong with that link. When I click
it,
: Outlook Express freezes up and has to be stopped in order to do
anything.
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: Roger Hightower
: WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
: 1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
: Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:09:49 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: UNIVOLT Question
Hello, new member here. I have a '67 Overlander with non-functioning power
converter. Newmark 40 is in there now, and it will not charge battery when on
city power or from tow vehicle. A series of fuses are inside an access door,
and I would guess they act like the low voltage distribution panel when the
trailer was new. I can detect power coming into the converter from the 120v
panel in the back of the trailer, but no power comes out. Question is, would
anyone know why the blue wire from trailer/tow vehicle plug and situated in
the roadside door access area, next to the battery, has been blocked off? It
is a thick guage wire that runs through a 50 amp fuse and looks like it
should connect directly to the battery. I have seen a tech bulletin from Oct
1966 that outlines converting from a Newmark 30 to the Airstream Univolt 2,
and they say to "obsolete the blue wire"???-but how does the battery get
power from the tow vehicle? Any guesses. Thanks-really enjoy the tips and
experiences on this mail list. Mike Hall, '67 Overlander.
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:10:58 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream facts
>From all the responses, I suspect that my copy of Outlook is bad. Will try
something else.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 06:40:22 -0400
From: "Rick Langer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upper Cabinet Hinge Screws
Someone was looking for a way to tighten the screws on the hinges of upper
cabinets. I have a couple of right angle screwdrivers that will work in this
application. I've had them for years, so I don't know where I got them, but
you could easily make one by bending an inexpensive screwdriver. I've also
seen, somewhere, and I probably have one, somewhere, a tiny ratched with two
little screwdriver ends sticking out at right angles. This would also work,
maybe at Sears.
Rick Langer
'66 GlobeTrotter
#3847,VAC,TCT
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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 06:48:55 -0400
From: "Rick Langer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mysterious Cotter Pins
My unit has three cotter pins through the skin, loop end out, right above
the wheel wells. They are about one inch above and evenly spaced, front,
middle and back of the wheel wells. Does anyone know what they are used for?
Are they original or for some add on option?
Thanks,
Rick Langer
'66 GlobeTrotter
#3847,VAC,TCT
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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:57:19 -0400
From: Dave Lowrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
This is just a guess, but maybe they are/were for holding some sort of
cloth wheel cover?
Dave
At 06:48 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>My unit has three cotter pins through the skin, loop end out, right above
>the wheel wells. They are about one inch above and evenly spaced, front,
>middle and back of the wheel wells. Does anyone know what they are used for?
>Are they original or for some add on option?
>Thanks,
>Rick Langer
>'66 GlobeTrotter
>#3847,VAC,TCT
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WBCCI: 5074
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 11
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:02:53 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
They are for attaching wheel covers. ZIP DEE makes a set made out of the
material as the awning.
> >My unit has three cotter pins through the skin, loop end out, right above
> >the wheel wells.
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Message Number: 12
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:06:00 -0400
From: "Bill Mosko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
I recently purchased a 69 Sovereign Land Yacht. It's in realatively good
condition, however, I could use some info on service & updating plumbing &
heating systems. General info is also welcome.
This unit has been land locked for some time w/ a/c only frig. We would like
to make it road worthy & update furnishings.
Thanks, Bill Mosko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 13
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:40:14 -0500
From: Dave Wessinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
I faced the same problem...I finally discovered that the local
'ex-'airstream dealer has a bone yard of old airstream parts. Although
they are no longer an official dealership they are the only place in
central AR with any airstream experience. Over the years, they pitched
various parts into a warehouse. After I got my Armstrong 'fixed' (it was
a matter of discovering that the thermostat had 3 positions: heat, off
AND cool!), I started asking where I might find a new shroud. "Oh, I
don't know where you might find one", "Maybe one of the generic ones
would fit", etc, etc. After about the 3rd or 4th excuse, someone said, "I
really doubt there's one there, but we should check our old parts
warehouse...". In a matter of minutes we selected 3 used shroud
candidates, all were in better shape than mine. I don't know why they
were so reluctant to go in there, maybe because they wanted to sell me a
new one. In any case I got it for $20.
I then took both apart (The bottom of the original was in better shape,
but the top was smashed to smitherines) and reassembled the best of the
two. As Roy suggests, I reinforced the corners with fiberglass, except I
applied the 'glass to the outside. Gave it a good sanding, primered and
painted it with silver paint, polished up the Al "chrome" trim, and I was
back in business. If you can get one for $300, you might want to consider
what your time is worth...I spent roughly $40-50 for materials
(fiberglass, resin, sandpaper, rivets, solvents, primer, paint) + 8-10
hrs labor + 2-3 hrs figuring out what to do. But it ain't rocket science,
if you can get a break and find a shroud.
Good Luck,
-dave wessinger
WBCCI#4217
ain't vintage yet...'79/31' Sovereign (center bath)
desperately seeking tow vehicle...
Little Rock, AR
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On 7/19/2 7:00 PM VACList ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>Message Number: 2
>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 02 19:19:25 -0600
>From: Roy Lashway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Armstrong A/C Shroud
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>>If anyone has an old Armstrong TR21-12 shroud (cover) laying around please
>>let me know. We've been looking for one for about 3 yrs. now. I just can't
>>see paying $300 for one from A/S parts place.
>==========
>Have you considered the option to taken your existing shroud off and
>reinforcing it on the inside with fiberglass. Might solve your problem
>and it is not a rocket science job either.
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>Roy Lashway
>'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
>WBCCI 1610 VAC
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
> (polishing report included)
William D. Wessinger, Ph.D.
Associate Professor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology Phone: 501-686-5514
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Fax: 501-686-5521
4301 West Markham St., Slot 611
Little Rock, AR 72205-7199
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Message Number: 14
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:57:29 -0400
From: Dick Kenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
At 09:02 AM 7/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>They are for attaching wheel covers. ZIP DEE makes a set made out of the
>material as the awning.
They do? Where can I get them...they're not listed [well, *I* couldn't
find them ;-)] on their web site.
- Dick
(5368)
"God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is over.
Why should you and I?"
-Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)
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Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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Message Number: 15
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:53:48 -0400
From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bill Mosko - 69 Sovereign Land Yacht
Oh, Bill
Are you going to have fun!
We've also got the 1969 International Ambassador 29' model and we've
gone over it from top to bottom. Now however, it's the copper water
lines that need attention. We still have the original 10 gallon water
heater and the Armstrong airconditioner installed. We did replace the
old Dometic with a Norcold 8 cubic foot fridge and I also installed a
new china toilet made by SeaLand I think is the name. And lots of other
nice finishing touches to the walnut interior, awnings all the way
around except THIS time I'd go with Zip Dee awnings and *not* A & E
simply because the quality of the Zip Dee is so much better.
Got pictures of your new to you unit?
Tom in NC
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From: "Bill Mosko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re:
: I recently purchased a 69 Sovereign Land Yacht. It's in realatively
good
: condition, however, I could use some info on service & updating
plumbing &
: heating systems. General info is also welcome.
: This unit has been land locked for some time w/ a/c only frig. We
would like
: to make it road worthy & update furnishings.
:
: Thanks, Bill Mosko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 16
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:31:56 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
I saw a set at Oasis RV in Tucson last year at around $250. My 76 Sovereign
has the snaps mounted around the wheel wells not cotter pins.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
> At 09:02 AM 7/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >They are for attaching wheel covers. ZIP DEE makes a set made out of the
> >material as the awning.
>
> They do? Where can I get them...they're not listed [well, *I* couldn't
> find them ;-)] on their web site.
>
> - Dick
> (5368)
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> "God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is over.
> Why should you and I?"
> -Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)
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> Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
> Retired and loving it!
> WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
> Atlanta
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Message Number: 17
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:23:42 -0600
From: "Randy Unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Traveling with satellite TV
Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:26:33 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Traveling with satellite TV
Randy, which roof mounted dish antenna do you have? Sounds like a good set.
(http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?deptID=4&subOf=173,26&sku
num=18567)
up. Does the digital elevation meter come with it and if not, what and
where can I find one of those? Thanks.
No, but also available at CW-Randy
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
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Message Number: 18
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:18:30 -0400
From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zip Dee for Dick
From: "Dick Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >They are for attaching wheel covers. ZIP DEE makes a set made out of
the
: >material as the awning.
:
: They do? Where can I get them...they're not listed [well, *I*
couldn't
: find them ;-)] on their web site.
:
: - Dick
: (5368)
Dick,
Try here:
Zip Dee Inc
96 Crossen Ave
Elk Grove Vlg, IL 60007-1662
Phone:(847)437-0980
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Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Trailer Travel" IMHO
IMHO: if this book is printed by Chronicle books,
$17.50 is probably right (or high) for the quality of
the binding etc.
of course to many of us, the content is invaluable.
thumbs up for the content, thumbs down on Chronicle
books "quality control."
Toby
--- Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey gang,
> Most of you know I've been less than impressed with
> offering vintage
> airstream books out there, but I have to say I just
> read one that really
> has me excited.
>
> Bryan Burkhart, the VAC Vintage Advantage editor, as
> co-authored an
> extremely beautiful and fascinating book called
> "Trailer Travel - A
> Visual History of Mobile America.
>
> It is a very colorful book, using photos, brochures
> and literature from
> the 1930's to 1960's. It is not a history book - as
> doesn't try to be,
> as it is very heavy on pictures and light on words.
> Makes for good eye
> and brain candy.
>
> Gets a "9" in the eyes of this cynical reviewer, and
> worth much more
> than the $17.50 price tag. While not 100% airstream,
> it covers a topic
> that appeals to most of us all.
>
> More info and ordering link here:
> http://www.airstream.org/reading.html
>
> Later,
> RJ
> VAC Webmaster
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Message Number: 20
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:15:46 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mysterious Cotter Pins
My guess is that these pins were used to hold a canvas shield for the tires
when trailer was not being used.
Just Plain Polly
1964 Globe Trotter
Colorado
WBCCI 7113
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Message Number: 21
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:26:38 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: After Stripping....
I can answer about the polish on my trailer. I go over it yearly by hand,
using a polish called Prestige Pro 4.0 which I have been obtaining at the
local Houston Peterbilt dealer. Takes me about four days, but I don't spend
all day at it either. Fairly painless.
- Tom
(On the road from Denver, Colorado)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: After Stripping....
> Well, yeah. Sort of, in a way.
> My trial was only over one season, so a better experiment would be over
> a couple of years with annual applications. I'm hoping that someone
> else will want to try it out and report back.
> The rep at rolite said to apply it twice a year, so I decided I'd
> rather just polish it once a year.
>
> I'm rather curious what Shirley & Arlen and Roy do to maintain their
> many season old polishes:
> http://home.att.net/%7Eglobetrotter64/
> http://www.zianet.com/rlashway/
>
> On another note, I received two emails now from users of the plastic
> bodied cyclo polisher knock-off. Both units broke and failed on them.
> I think top-of-the-line doesn't even sell them anymore. I'm going to
> remove the reference & Link from my website Just a heads up. Cheap
> tools aren't.
>
> RJ
> http://vintageairstream.com/rr_polish1.html
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:13 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [VAC] Re: After Stripping....
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> > > You might try the sealer made by Rolite, available only direct from
> > > Rolite at this time. Its a wipe on, wipe off thing. I
> > >tried it three
> > > seasons ago in a skin panel test on the post polish
> > >Caravel. It made
> > > washing the trailer easier, and protected the sections from
> > >bird poop,
> > > but one year later it was hard to tell any true oxide difference.
> >
> >
> > I am not sure I understand your last sentence. Does it mean
> > the sealer did
> > NOT provide any protection to oxidation. So it's not worth doing?
> >
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