VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Thursday, July 18, 2002      Issue 368
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: Advice re trailer damage
        2. A/S in the movies
        3. New Member Introduction
        4. Re: New Member Introduction
        5. VAC sponsored/produced series
        6. Armstrong A/C Shroud
        7. Re: enter baths?
        8. Re: Simply Shocking
        9. Re: Simply Shocking
       10. Thanks for repair advice
       11. Re: Condensation drain for Air Condioner?
       12. Re: Ace Fogdall RV, Cedar Falls, IA
       13. Re: Traveling with DirecTV
       14. Re: Airstreams in museums/Homebase Parking Restrictions
       15. Re: Security
       16. wire nuts
       17. patches
       18. Re: wire nuts
       19. Wire Nuts - Now I Know
       20. Gaucho
       21. LP Leak
       22. Re: Gaucho
       23. Re: LP Leak
       24. Bowen water heater cover
       25. Re: Gaucho
       26. bungee cord your door
       27. Re: LP Leak
       28. Re: bungee cord your door
       29. Re: Armstrong A/C Shroud
       30. Re: High speed mishaps
       31. Re: bungee cord your door
       32. Re: bungee cord your door
       33. Re: bungee cord your door
       34. Re: bungee cord your door
       35. Re: '74 Argosy TV antennae vs. satellite?.




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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:14:30 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advice re trailer damage

> He's contacted Manteca Trailer in
> Manteca CA (Andy, anyone else, know anything about this place

Hi Amanda:

Manteca Trailer is the Airsteam dealer for the Bay Area and your area in
Sacramento.

GQ '67 Safari (in the Bay Area)



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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:40:00 -0400
From: soule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A/S in the movies

I left for work early this morning and decided to treat myself to a meal
at an excellent local diner.   I sat slumped in the booth, groggily
eating my breakfast and thumbing my way through my local paper (The
Recorder, Greenfield, MA).   I'm not much of a sports fan, but I always
feel obliged to see what disasters have befallen the Red Sox.  Right
after satisfying myself that the Bo Sox really won a game, I started
reading a review of  the recently released science fiction movie "Eight
Legged Freaks".  If you have, as I do, a taste for trashy science
fiction, this movie may appeal to you.   I was half way through the
article when I finally focused on the accompanying publicity photo.  My
eyes snapped wide open when I realized that it was an image of a vintage
Airstream being attacked by a giant spider.  Holy smoke...si/fi, giant
arachnids, and an A/S???  Gotta see this flick.

Lincoln Soule
1977 Tradewind



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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:07:34 -0500
From: "David W. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Member Introduction

Hello:

I'm David Thompson of Burlington, Wisconsin. I have just joined the list, 
and recently purchased a 1974 Argosy 24-foot. I got it home and found out 
that the plumbing had apparently frozen at some point, and after 
re-sweating 5 joints I found that the Bowen water heater was irreparably 
ruptured. I've got a replacement on the way, and I'm looking forward to 
fixing the stream of water that flows across the back of the toilet when I 
open the water supply valve to it! At least the A/C works! Life is good...

David




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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:02:21 -0400
From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Member Introduction

Hello David,
Welcome to the wonderful world or Vintage Argosy Ownership, a wonderful
product. I also live in WI, Appleton, and have had my share of Airstream
plumbing problems. We are known in the WI Unit of the WBCCI as "those
who wash their trailer from the inside!" Let me know if you have any
questions.

Ed Emerick
WBCCI/VAC # 4425
Region 7 VAC Rep.
WI Unit 1st Vice President and Membership Chairman
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
David W. Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] New Member Introduction

Hello:

I'm David Thompson of Burlington, Wisconsin. I have just joined the
list, 
and recently purchased a 1974 Argosy 24-foot. I got it home and found
out 
that the plumbing had apparently frozen at some point, and after 
re-sweating 5 joints I found that the Bowen water heater was irreparably

ruptured. I've got a replacement on the way, and I'm looking forward to 
fixing the stream of water that flows across the back of the toilet when
I 
open the water supply valve to it! At least the A/C works! Life is
good...

David





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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:37:35 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VAC sponsored/produced series

In a message dated 7/17/02 4:59:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< 
 > I like it...I'll design the label and packaging. When do we start?
 >
 > Brad Norgaard
 > Phoenix
 > '59 Trade Wind
 > #2699 VAC, TCT >>


Hi Bob...Hi Brad....

Let's do it....I've got production experience, the ranch and the wandering 
roads and scenery around can do for some of the backdrops....let me know. HI 
BOB!
Financing might not be too hard either.....anyone interested?

Wendy
way too many Airstreams...lol


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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:46:00 -0500
From: "Dana Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Armstrong A/C Shroud

If anyone has an old Armstrong TR21-12 shroud (cover) laying around please
let me know.  We've been looking for one for about 3 yrs. now.  I just can't
see paying $300 for one from A/S parts place.  The thing is so old, it would
be my luck it would go out if I paid that much for it.  I would be willing
to pay you a resonable price plus shipping of course.  We would be most
grateful.
DSK in TEXAS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: B Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: enter baths?

<table width="500"><tr><td><font size="" style="" color="">Did A/S ever put a bathtub 
in the center bath models?  
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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:21:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Simply Shocking

Dr. Gerald J

In regards to my over electrified home. When the house is plugged in but
the breakers are not turned on it does not exhibit the problem. Can the
cord be eliminated as a suspect? All appliances were unpugged the second
time they are currently eliminated. The cord is the only thing with a
green wire. The end of the cord had to be fitted with a socket for a two
wire house. The green wire I bolted directly to the aluminum body which
failed to help me (should it have grounded it?) Would bolting it to the
frame ground it? I know the short must be found; it just seems something
of this nature should be done as well. The breaker box has four breaker
which seem to work only in pairs. One pair works only an outlet on top
of the counter in the kitchen and one outlet under which worked three of
the appliances. The other pair works the entire rest of the house. I
shall test all lights and outlets thoroughly to get a better idea; I
have some suspects.

rusty



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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:41:37 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simply Shocking

The cord can not be eliminated as suspect. But its green wire can do no
good if its not grounded at the supply end. No two wire plugs are safe
in this situation. You need to have an electrician provide your fixed
house with a properly grounded three wire outlet, then you can
troubleshoot the trailer. The green wire should go to the trailer frame,
the aluminum shell, and the case of the electrical box. Even driving a
ground rod next to the trailer may not be adequate to prevent shock. I
had a widow for a client where wiring was crossed and it killed her
husband even while putting 15 amps into a ground rod. There was enough
voltage drop between the case which was hot and the earth despite the
ground rod. There are still appliances wired directly in the trailer,
like the refrigerator, furnace controls, the battery charger, and maybe
a water heater element that all can't be unplugged. All are suspect.

Breakers should work circuits individually, not in pairs of breakers for
120 volt circuits, unless the wiring is really messed up. Then you
really need the help of a qualified electrician to straighten it out.
There can be shorts from screws, nails, or simply wear of the wire
insulation. there can be multiple shorts. There can be simply the
neutral buss of the trailer's main panel incorrectly connected to the
case and the polarity wrong on the cord and the receptacle at the house.
In the old days that jumper between the neutral buss and the frame
ground might have been made. It shouldn't today.

Beyond these generalities, its impossible to trouble shoot at a
distance. Check the voltages to ground at the panel. E.g. stick one prod
of your voltmeter (or light bulb socket with extended leads) into the
earth and check the voltages at the shell of the trailer and at the main
panel inputs where black and white come in. Black should go to the
breakers common, white should go to the neutral bar. Black should have
120 volts, white should have essentially zero volts.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.


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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:44:32 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thanks for repair advice

Hi,

Just wanted to say thank you on the record to all the nice people who 
responded to my plea for help earlier today re my forklift-damaged '68 
Safari.  I got a lot of great advice, both on and off the list, and I'm
most 
grateful!

I've seen the damage now, it's actually about a six-inch puncture, 
streetside, below the forward window (not the front, so my  visions of a 
punctured water tank happily were only visions).  Doesn't seem to have 
hit anything structural or otherwise, but it'll sure be a big panel to 
replace.  There's a smallish dent inside that's visible if you take the 
cushions off the sofa.  

I'll let you all know what the resolution turns out to be.  For now, I am 
trying to stay calm, and repeating to myself, "it could have been worse."

Thanks again, 

Amanda

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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:23:00 -0400
From: "Robin Leigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Condensation drain for Air Condioner?

Hi,
    I built a trestle (2 x 4 x 10' uprights, with a diagonal brace) for one
side of our TW and put 2 x 12's across from the carport roof. After spending
several week-ends on our Bay Breeze, inside and out, having a worry-free
platform to work on was well worth the effort of building it. It would be
very difficult to work on an a/c unit without putting a foot wrong
somewhere, let alone manhandling a replacement.

    The inside half of the unit was full of crud and bits of crumbling foam.
It just needed a careful cleaning out to let the condensate run down the
drain freely. We used new foam to fill the spaces between the evap coils and
the ceiling (it forces the air throught he coils and stops things rattling
around). Sealed refrigeration units seldom fail unless left discharged- all
ours needed was a new fan motor and capacitors, plus some sheet metal and
hardware to replace the original rusty steel. Oh, and new wire for the
switch to replace the piece with a screw through it.

    OBTW- can anyone describe how the black water tank should be supported?
Ours had two rusty straps under it, which didn't work right. There's no
steel pan under it. It's sitting on the ground while I grumble about
quick-and-dirty repairs and await inspiration.

    Robin Leigh
    65 TW, JAX.




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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:29:03 -0500
From: Kevin D Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ace Fogdall RV, Cedar Falls, IA

Greetings Terry!

In my experience, you can trust your Airstream to Ace Fogdall with total
confidence.  They have saved me many times when those things that I
don't have time to address have gone wrong.  In the past five years,
they have done the following work for me:

Repaired accident damage to the street side of the trailer where it
encountered a fence post on my muddy driveway
Replaced hot water heater, water tank, furnace, air conditioner,
refrigerator, faucet sets in bath and kitchen, water filter mechanism in
kitchen, installed electric hitch jack, shock absorbers, wiring for
satellite system and TV Cable, new "batwing" TV Antenna, and window
crank mechanisms on five of the windows.
Installed new Zip Dee awnings on curb side, over rear window and over
side bedroom windows.

You may very likely encounter my coach when you stop at Ace Fogdall as
it has been there for electrical problems.  It turns out that there were
problems with the installation of the new inverter system in addition to
the failure of a fusible circuit in the Air Conditioner.  The inverter
problem also appears to have shorted out the switch/control mechanism on
the electric jack.  They are currently working on it and I am awaiting
their call to come get the trailer.

The fine folks at Fogdalls treat their customers like family.  You will
find Steve Oldani in service to be very helpful, and Florence in parts
can find just about any part you might need.  From sales, office, and
service department staff, I have always felt like a member of the family
when I have taken my Airstream to Cedar Falls for service.  In addition,
when I had problems with my electric brakes returning from the
International Rally in Dayton, they offered telephone assistance to the
Brand X RV dealer who agreed to make the repairs to my brakes which he
was unwilling to perform prior to speaking to the folks at Ace Fogdall.
I am a VERY satisfied customer and recommend them highly.

Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Terry Tyler
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:46 AM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: Roof mount antenna on '74 ILY Ambassador


 Later this week, we begin our trek back East ~ with a side trip to
Fogdall's 
Airstream dealership in Iowa. If anyone has had Vogdall do service on
their 
Airstream, I'd like to hear any insights you can offer. It'll be our
first time.

Terry 

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:29:28 -0500
From: Kevin D Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Traveling with DirecTV

Greetings Joy!

I traveled with my DirecTV setup for the first time this summer.  I
wouldn't suggest doing away with your television antenna.  As a
Freewheeler, I found that many times I was too tired after a long drive
to set up the dish, point, and adjust the system.  It was on these days
that I was very happy to have my roof mounted television antenna.  I
have never been happy with the cable provided in campgrounds - - usually
had better reception with my antenna system (only about 5% of the parks
that I have stayed in actually had the cable option).  In addition, I
don't travel enough at this point to jump through all of the hoops that
DircTV has to obtaining the network channels - - I was in an underserved
area of SW Wisconsin several years ago and had to spend weeks with the
paperwork to get permission to receive the network broadcasts (at an
additional cost of $1.75 per channel).  I know that there are shortcuts
for RV service, but that, at least according to my contact, means a
separate receiver and card for the RV with a separate subscription.

Generally, I am very pleased with my DirecTV system and its adaptability
to my Overlander.  I still find that my regular television antenna is of
great benefit.

Good luck with your project!


Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mr Joy H Hansen
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:26 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems . . .

It goes without real commentary that I have to run both a phone and
cable TV
service while before I close the ceiling.

The gear on the antennae is broken and I know I've read many posts on
the
appropriate repair.  However, is a TV antennae all that useful?  I'm
inclined to set up my dish for DirecTV as being more practical and
eliminating the several dollar cost at each  camp ground for the cable
hook-up.  Any ideas?

Thanks for your reply and information,

                                           Regards, '74 Argosy 22
                                                          '69 Safari 23,
Joy
 




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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 02:30:31 -0500
From: Kevin D Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in museums/Homebase Parking Restrictions

Greetings Mel and Sheila!

I can empathize with you in this situation, but can also look at it from
another perspective.  I live in a community (near the Quad Cities in
Illinois) that does not regulate in any way the automobiles, RVs or
other vehicles maintained one ones property.   I own an maintain several
collector cars (all but one of which is garaged) as well as my Airstream
(parked on a concrete pad with landscaping to compliment that on the
balance of my property) which are currently stored on my property, but I
am nearing the point where I would welcome an ordinance prohibiting
parking RVs, commercial trucks, utility trailers and collector cars on
city lots.  Currently in my neighborhood there are two semis with
trailer routinely parked at their owner's residences (on-street parking
is already prohibited), utility trailers too numerous to count, at least
six unlicensed old cars rusting away, two RVs unlicensed and rusting
away, at least three regularly licensed and maintained RVs.  All of this
aesthetic clutter is beginning to detract from the character of the
neighborhood and, based on asking prices, has had some negative impact
on properties for sale in our neighborhood.  Quite honestly, I am
getting to the point where I don't really want to invite friends to
visit as the neighborhood is beginning to look like a rundown area.

Even though it would mean storing my Airstream and at least one of my
collector cars on property that I own 300+ miles away, I would be
willing to see such an ordinance passed just to clean up our
neighborhood.  As a hobbyist, I would dislike the inconvenience of
relocating my Airstream and collector car to an alternate site, but I am
also becoming disturbed by the declining aesthetic of our neighborhood.

Hope that you are able to reach a happy conclusion to your problem.

Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Melvin Mudgett-Price
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:31 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Airstreams in museums

Happy Monday to everyone, 

Only 5 more days to the weekend.

I live in a city that like many others doesn't allow trailers to be
stored in my driveway, or any other driveway for that matter. I am in
the process of sending a letter/rant with regards to this. My question
is: Are there any museums that have an A/S as an exhibit. There must be
some museums of industrial design or similar that recognize the
historical value of an American icon that has been around since 1936.

My point is going to be along the lines:

Why is it that my neighbor can park his rusted 1982 Honda Civic in his
driveway with impunity yet I can't park my vintage Airstream, an
American icon that is proudly displayed in the following museums:

1. etc...

I know it won't make one iota of difference to the rules but I feel it
has to be said.

Mel and Sheila
'72 Trade Wind
Cleveland, OH  



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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:20:28 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Security

Thanks for monitoring - I am learning to delete though, instead of letting 
these posts get to me!! That's what that button is for!LOL!!

Just Plain Polly
1964 Globe Trotter
Colorado
WBCCI 7113


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Message Number: 16
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:42:24 -0500
From: "Todd McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wire nuts

You appear to be facing a Marine application issue (as in "on water" not the 
"Semper Fi" Marines. The moisture and corrosives from the road make this 
similar to saltwater boat applications.  After greasing, wire nutting, 
taping wires together at the base of the wirenut I'd caulk the wire nuts on 
the inside. Ive seen this on many sea going vessels exposed to the harshest 
conditions. But defer my thimble full of  expertise to our electric voodoo 
guru, Gerald, and his bucket! [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:49:53 -0400
From: "T Meeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: patches

What you refer to here is called a scab patch.  Aircraft mechanics who
are sheetmetal artists as well could easily do this for you.

Tom


: When I went to a VAC event several years ago in Texas, the trailer
parked
: next to mine had some patches on it.  They were very neatly done and
of the
: same kind of aluminum and were not obvious.  This trailer was highly
polished
: and quite beautiful, in fact it was so shiney that I took pictures of
the
: reflections on it, so take heart and get it fixed - I would choose a
patch
: over a new panel.
:
:
: Just Plain Polly
: 1964 Globe Trotter
: Colorado
: WBCCI 7113

I've been thinking outside the box for so long, now they won't let me
back inside.




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Message Number: 18
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:08:25 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wire nuts

The benefit of caulking wire nuts depends on the caulk used. Why not use
benign silicone grease or Ideal wire nuts already filled. Its easy to
think caulking with RTV silicone, the trouble is that the most common
varieties produce acetic acid when curing and that tends to corrode the
connections worse than water and salt. Polyurethane caulks like Vulkem
don't cure that way and so would be better, but hard to apply. Look for
the Ideal filled wire nuts, they save much fiddling in confined areas.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.


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Message Number: 19
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:37:26 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wire Nuts - Now I Know

Maybe I'm the only person in the world that didn't know what wire nuts
were so I went and looked. If there's anyone else then here's a link:

http://www.insidespaces.com/dictionary/Tool_Pages/wirenuts.shtml

Oh, those things.

Melvin Mudgett-Price
Director of Development
http://www.acmex.com/bio/mmp (Bio)
(216) 391-7400 X207
MS Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

acmeX.com  - Acme Express, Inc.
Web-enabled software / e-commerce / Web Marketing
http://www.acmeX.com
(216) 391-0707 (FAX)
(216) 403-0328 (Cell)  


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Message Number: 20
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:23:48 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gaucho



Sherry wrote; 
> 
> I just measured it. The bolster is 14 inches high. When the bed is pulled
> out and the bolster is in place there is about 7 inches between the bed and
> the cabinets/furnace.

Thanks Sherry,

If I can impose on you good nature a little more --

1)  Do you have 2 or 3 cushions total?  It sounds like some trailers have a
"bolster" behind the "back cushion" for a total of 3 cushions.

2)  In the mid to late 60's the back cushion apparently was connected to the
seat cushion with a fabric hinge.  Is your Bambi that way or are they
seperate?

Thank you for your help and patience.

Dick
'62 Bambi



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Message Number: 21
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:57:17 -0700
From: "David Pfeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LP Leak

Group:

The regulator on my GT is leaking gas from the vent, anyone had a similar
problem, is the regulator repairable?

Thx,

David




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Message Number: 22
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:12:08 -0700
From: "Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gaucho

Dick asked:
>
> 1)  Do you have 2 or 3 cushions total?  It sounds like some
> trailers have a
> "bolster" behind the "back cushion" for a total of 3 cushions.
>
> 2)  In the mid to late 60's the back cushion apparently was
> connected to the
> seat cushion with a fabric hinge.  Is your Bambi that way or are they
> seperate?

There is just the seat and the cushion (bolster) in back. The back cushion
attaches to the shelf under the windows. And in my Bambi the back cushion
and seat cushion are separate.

On the front the back cushion is hinged in the middle so that it's easier to
store when someone is using the front for a bed. It also attaches to the
small shelf under the window. There are also arm rests held in place by
brackets on the side.

Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT




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Message Number: 23
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:18:58 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LP Leak

Replace that leaking regulator. There are no parts available for fixing
it. The fabric diaphragm has ruptured. Died of old age. Regulators
shouldn't be used more than 15 or 20 years.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.


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Message Number: 24
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:08:28 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bowen water heater cover



RJ wrote:
> 
> After 40 elapsed years, the fact you even have a bent cover is more
> than many Bambi owners have.  You might want to entertain the idea of
> having it removed and straightened, or a duplicate made of it at a
> sheet metal shop.

Unfortunately ours has a 2 inch by 1/2 inch tear out of it.  I think I could
live with a dent or bend.  Is it possible to get the metal with horizontal
embossed stripes (I think its aluminum) to make a replacement?  Does this
style of metal finsh have a name?  I've never seen it used anywhere else.

Incidently the part I need is the outside hood which has the Bowen name
plate and model number etc. on it.  Ours is very faded but I think it is
model number G - 110T.

Dick 
'62 Bambi



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Message Number: 25
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:20:42 -0400
From: "Sissy Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gaucho

My '61 Bambi has a "hinged" cushion on the side pull-out bed.  The front end
"couch" has a seat cushion and a separate back cushion that snaps onto the
edge of the shelf under the window.  In addition to these cushions, there is
two small ones -- one is square and the other is a long triangular shape.
When the bed is pulled out, the hinged cushion, the back portion of the
front couch and the two small cushions all fit together (like a puzzle) to
make the complete mattress of the pull-out double bed.  The seat portion of
the front couch stays in place and together they all make a smooth surface
for sleeping.  Great set-up if a person is tall!
Hope this helps.
Sissy




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Message Number: 26
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: jon fitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bungee cord your door

I'm really sorry to hear about the fellow whose door
got flattened when it sprang open at highway speeds. 
I've never mentioned this before because I figured
everyone does it--but I always bungee cord my door. 
It's actually on the "pre-flight checklist" I made up.

The key is to get a cord of just the right length (a
nice AS blue isn't bad, either). Then you can go from
the courtesy handle, around the knob, and back to the
handle.  This makes it fast and easy. You don't want
it pulling too hard on the knob.  It only needs a
little tension to be effective, especially since it is
doubled up. You also don't want to wrap the thing
around the knob three times to get enough tension. 
Either situation can exert too much force on the knob.

I hope this saves someone's door.

Jon in SC
68 Overlander

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Message Number: 27
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:57:57 -0400
From: "Thomas LaVergne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LP Leak



<The regulator on my GT is leaking gas from the vent, anyone had a similar
problem, is the regulator repairable?
David>

Could it be the pressure vent releasing?  If your tanks are full and sitting
in the hot sun they can build up pressure causing them to vent.  Just a
thought.
Thomas '79 Ambassador









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Message Number: 28
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:43:48 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bungee cord your door

From: "jon fitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VAC] bungee cord your door


> I'm really sorry to hear about the fellow whose door
> got flattened when it sprang open at highway speeds.
> I've never mentioned this before because I figured
> everyone does it--but I always bungee cord my door.
> It's actually on the "pre-flight checklist" I made up.

Jon,
    You can even go further with that bungee cord.  I put a potted fern just
aft of my door.  When I open the door wide I use the bungee to connect the
door to the fern.  I can move the fern forward if I want the door less open.

If I want the door open only a crack I use the same bungee from the handle
inside the screen door to the handle of the main door.  Then I close the
screen and the main door is only open about six inches for ventilation.  I
can bolt the screen door closed for security.  Bungees Rule!
Aloha,

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA




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Message Number: 29
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:47:49 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Armstrong A/C Shroud

You might be in luck.  We just pulled our Armstrong A/C from the 66 Safari.
Others on the list may know if this is a TR21-12 shroud.  It appears to be
in good condition.  No big cracks.
Contact me off list if your interested.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:46 PM
Subject: [VAC] Armstrong A/C Shroud


> If anyone has an old Armstrong TR21-12 shroud (cover) laying around please
> let me know.  We've been looking for one for about 3 yrs. now.  I just
can't
> see paying $300 for one from A/S parts place.  The thing is so old, it
would
> be my luck it would go out if I paid that much for it.  I would be willing
> to pay you a resonable price plus shipping of course.  We would be most
> grateful.
> DSK in TEXAS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 30
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:22:18 -0400
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: High speed mishaps

Hi Kit,

As of this spring Ron and Linda have moved into a new facility about 4 or 5
miles from the address Noah gave you.  New phone is:  856-697-9982.  I don't
know the address, just the way. LOL.  Think the street is route US 40, at least
one takes 40 to get to Vineland, but not sure if 40 turns in another direction
there.   Headed there this week end, myself.

Matt

Noah wrote:

> Hi Kit
>
> The name of the A/S dealer, repair facility, in Vineland, NJ is SOUTH JERSEY
> RV.  Ron Ame  is the guys name and they are at 3905 N. Delsea Drive. Phone:
> 856-563-1575
>
> Your door can be re-bent to close properly.  There have been several post
> regarding how to do it but I will have to leave that explanation to someone
> more experienced in this type of repair.
>
> Good Luck
> Noah
> 74 AMBASSADOR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kit Sullivan Mac.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:41 AM
> Subject: [VAC] High speed mishaps
>
> > Hi all. I have a few problems I'm hoping for some help with.
> >
> > First - while driving across a bridge, the door to my '62 Bambi somehow
> blew
> > open. By the time I was able to stop and shut it, it seems to have been
> bent
> > by the wind so that it no longer closes properly - rather than curving to
> > fit the shape of the trailer, it seems almost straight. I would like to
> > believe that the problem is with the hinge, but it really looks like the
> > door itself is bent. Is that possible? If so, is there anyway to fix it?
> If
> > not, how would I go about replacing it?
> >
> > Second - while driving on another occasion, the spare tire that was
> attached
> > to the rear of the trailer with several bungee cords was lost. What is the
> > best way to mount a spare tire to the rear of the trailer so that it I
> don't
> > have to worry about losing it?
> >
> > Third - I am looking for the pilot assembly for the original Dometic
> > refrigerator in the trailer. If anyone could point me in a direction, I
> > would appreciate it.
> >
> > Fourth - Does anyone know the name and number of an Airstream repair
> person
> > in Vineland, NJ? I used to have his info but I lost it.
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can offer!
> >
> > Kit
> > 1962 Bambi
> >
> >
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1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
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Message Number: 31
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:40:07 -0700
From: "Tim  Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bungee cord your door


> > I'm really sorry to hear about the fellow whose door
> > got flattened when it sprang open at highway speeds.
> > I've never mentioned this before because I figured
> > everyone does it--but I always bungee cord my door.
> > It's actually on the "pre-flight checklist" I made up.
>
> Jon,
>     You can even go further with that bungee cord.  I put a potted fern
just
> aft of my door.  When I open the door wide I use the bungee to connect the
> door to the fern.  I can move the fern forward if I want the door less
open.

Bob,

You have traveling fern that follows your trailer around at highway speeds?
;-)

I'd travel with my door wide open to see that!

-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302




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Message Number: 32
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:45:30 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bungee cord your door

    One clarification.  I attach the bungee to the lip of the pot . . . not
the fern :)

> Jon,
>     You can even go further with that bungee cord.  I put a potted fern
just
> aft of my door.  When I open the door wide I use the bungee to connect the
> door to the fern.  I can move the fern forward if I want the door less
open.
>
> If I want the door open only a crack I use the same bungee from the handle
> inside the screen door to the handle of the main door.  Then I close the
> screen and the main door is only open about six inches for ventilation.  I
> can bolt the screen door closed for security.  Bungees Rule!
> Aloha,
>
> Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA




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Message Number: 33
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:58:17 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bungee cord your door

From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VAC] Re: bungee cord your door

> You have traveling fern that follows your trailer around at highway
speeds?
> ;-)

Tim,
It's a regular FERNicular!  Seriously, it is a nice thing to carry one good
sized plant along for the ride.  Instant atmosphere at your door step and it
is also a functional door stop.  Try it . . . you'll like it :)

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA





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Message Number: 34
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:42:38 -0700
From: "Tim  Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bungee cord your door

;-)

-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302

----- Original Message -----
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC] Re: bungee cord your door
>
> > You have traveling fern that follows your trailer around at highway
> speeds?
> > ;-)
>
> Tim,
> It's a regular FERNicular!  Seriously, it is a nice thing to carry one
good
> sized plant along for the ride.  Instant atmosphere at your door step and
it
> is also a functional door stop.  Try it . . . you'll like it :)
>
> Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com




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Message Number: 35
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:50:32 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '74 Argosy TV antennae vs. satellite?.

on 07/17/02 8:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> I have DirecTV at home and I'm quite familiar with pointing the dish, etc.
> However, I'm not inclined to purchase a roof-top dish.  Rather, I'll most
> likely use one of the free standing dish units.  What style are you using?
> 
Hi Joy, I use a free standing unit that I mounted on a piece of plywood
(2.5' X 2.5') with  two bubble levels like those sold in RV stores as one
circular device for mounting on the tongue of an RV. After I have it 4 way
level, I sight on the satellite with my handy dandy compass. Sometimes when
we're among trees, I use my audible finder. The actual Dish is permanently
mounted to the plywood.

I lay the plywood on a plastic milk crate. It's really quite simple. We've
only been using this combination for 60 months (since 1998), but it's been
really satisfactory. In the Van, I secure the plywood and Dish to its' own
seat with a seat belt.

I see other RVers using more sophisticated systems for securing their Dish,
but I've never felt the need to "anchor" it with weights or use "ropes and
stakes"  or build a "special mount and pole" and attach it to our trailer.

Like you, I don't set up the satellite when pulling an overnighter.

The channel I like most is Weather. When not using our Dish, I have three
portable radios for finding a weather channel and even then, sometimes I
strike out. Two of my radios have different channels built into them.

The best radio is a Radio Shack cube with a sliding scale instead of
crystals. Almost always, it brings in a signal.I've been known to drive over
100 miles out of our way to avoid tornados, hurricanes and intense foul
weather. Foolish perhaps, but that's my choice.

> 
> I noticed during several East/West crossings that many RVs pull off the main
> roadway and do not use campgrounds.  Think they made the trek before and knew
> where this was possible.
> 
When I see that occurring, it's not uncommon for me to knock on doors and
get the hot scoop. Most folks are pleased to share their insights and almost
always, they agree to leave their CB on all night at an agreed upon channel.
It's not much, but it's reassuring to know that someone else is available as
eyes and ears should a problem occur.

> However, I like the margin of personal safety provided by the commercial
> campgrounds.
> 
That makes sense. Each of us has to live with our own feelings about
personal safety. So far, Sandie and I have not had an occasion where we were
concerned about personal safety. But, we're not cavalier about it either.

We've even come around to an attitude that a diesel truck engine running all
night is music. Again, foolish perhaps. But, all of us are different. It
would be a boring world if all of us were the same.

Thanks for the direct post. It's good to chit chat off line once in awhile,

Terry

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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