VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Monday, July 15, 2002      Issue 365
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. re security
        2. Re: Twin bed question
        3. List Admin
        4. Re: re security
        5. Roof mount antenna on '74 ILY Ambassador
        6. Re: Twin bed question
        7. Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems .  .  .
        8. Re: Aluminum fasteners and corrosion
        9. Re: List Admin
       10. Re: buying a'74 sovereign 31'
       11. Re: re security
       12. Re: Overpriced
       13. Re: loose cabinet doors...
       14. Re: Help with Bix Stripper Techniques
       15. Re: Help with Bix Stripper Techniques
       16. Re: Twin bed question
       17. Simply Shocking!!!
       18. Re: re security
       19. Re: Overpriced
       20. Re: Twin bed question
       21. Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems .  .  .
       22. Re: Simply Shocking!!!
       23. SOLAR Charge controler/regulator
       24. Airstreams in museums
       25. Re: Airstreams in museums
       26. Re: Airstreams in museums
       27. Re: Airstreams in museums
       28. Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems .  .  .
       29. Re: Airstreams in museums
       30. Re: Airstream story




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Message Number: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 01:23:14 +0100
From: "Steve Smithwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re security



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Wow!!! I read this list every day and I am amazed to find the list suddenly
sounding like a right wing survivalist group.
 I have enjoyed reading these lists daily with postings from colourful
characters like Tuna ,the Tylers, Gerald Johnson, Daisy ,Lefty and Cruiser
Bob.
It has given me a vision of a Capra-esqe world of middle America and I have
admired the way everyone is so helpful to each other and ready to offer
advice or tips to help keep the small town of 'VAC' alive and thriving.
This intrusion of the real has shocked me and disturbed the world of cyclo
polishers and thetford slideomatics, Hell what will Andy from inlandrv say
about this? Maybe he keeps a kalashnicof under the dinette. Maybe Cruiser
Bob is planning to take out the socialists in'Kalifornia'? I dont think so,
but maybe Daisy might have a Magnum under her cork floor to protect her
fantastic fan?
Please return to the vintage airstreams, this has given me a whole new take
on the deadbolt story.
I am not totally serious, as the list (like any small town) has a wide range
of people on it, that Toby is a poet after all and I have read some
interesting renewable energy (solar panels) tips from the others. Up to now
ive enjoyed the philosophical comments tied to signatures my favourite being
tuna's  I can only please one person per day.
>Today is not your day.
>Tomorrow is not looking good either.


  I have a 66 tradewind it is a beautiful thing a design classic and an
American Icon, and in case I did not say I enjoy and am grateful for this
list but this NRA bs scares me.

Steve Smithwick
66 Tradewind
London
UK



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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:34:32 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Twin bed question

Can someone discribe a bolster or show me a picture?

I am having trouble visualizing it.

Thanks
-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick and Kris Parins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: [VAC] Twin bed question


>
>
> Tim said:
> >
> > But I cannot help to wonder what these braces were for.  There were two
on
> > each bed.....
>
> I'm sure a previous owner tossed the bolster Andy referred to and put
these
> braces in to hold the bottom of the back cushion out to make it a more
> comfortable place to sit.  I am wondering what people that still have the
> bolster do with it when the bed is set up.
>
> Dick
> '62 Bambi
>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:58:45 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: List Admin


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OK everyone, let it lie.

 From the List Rules:

Do talk about Airstreams and Airstreaming with particular emphasis on 
vintage Airstreams:

This is what everybody is here for - the group is orientated around 
using, owning, and admiring Airstreams with the particular interest of 
restoration of the vintage Airstream travel trailer. The group is 
monitored, but you are free to post anything you like to the list. 
However, because of this open policy, it is extremely important that you 
do not stray too far from the subject of Airstream Restoration. Model 
identification, tow vehicles, tow hitches, sources for parts, chemicals 
to clean your trailer with, tire sizes, in fact anything that is 
directly relevant to vintage Airstreams is okay, but allowing yourself 
to spin off on an unrelated tangent isn't. It is a matter of etiquette 
that the subject matter be kept under control.

RJ
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OK everyone, let it lie.


>From the List Rules:


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This is what everybody is here for - the group is orientated around
using, owning, and admiring Airstreams with the particular interest of
restoration of the vintage Airstream travel trailer. The group is
monitored, but you are free to post anything you like to the list.
However, because of this open policy, it is extremely important that
you do not stray too far from the subject of Airstream Restoration.
Model identification, tow vehicles, tow hitches, sources for parts,
chemicals to clean your trailer with, tire sizes, in fact anything
that is directly relevant to vintage Airstreams is okay, but allowing
yourself to spin off on an unrelated tangent isn't. It is a matter of
etiquette that the subject matter be kept under control. 


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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:00:35 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: re security


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  Mr. Smithwick I see you live in the UK where you do not have the right to 
bear arms for defense of life and liberty. It is a powerful and precious gift 
paid in blood by our fellow countrymen.
  Not that long ago the United States had to cross the Atlantic and lift a 
War torn Europe from the grasp of Germany most Europeans had no means to 
defend themeless. A lesson soon forgotten here and abroad. Do not be afraid 
of arms kept by individuals to keep the odd few at bay, who are predators 
among us.

  If you want peace prepare for war...

I will yield my soap box now, and go back to quietly lurking    Derek

73 excella 500
68 Caravel 

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>  Mr. Smithwick I see you live in the 
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a powerful and precious gift paid in blood by our fellow countrymen.
<BR> &nbsp;Not that long ago the United States had to cross the Atlantic and lift a 
War torn Europe from the grasp of Germany most Europeans had no means to defend 
themeless. A lesson soon forgotten here and abroad. Do not be afraid of arms kept by 
indivi<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;If you want peace prepare for war...
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<BR>I will yield my soap box now, and go back to quietly lurking 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Derek
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:08:37 -0400
From: "James E. Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Roof mount antenna on '74 ILY Ambassador


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I have just noticed today a small leak coming from the roof mount antenna on
my trailer.

Anyone have any experience with this subject?

Jamie Craig
1974 ILY

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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:19:37 -0600
From: "Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Twin bed question


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> Can someone discribe a bolster or show me a picture?
>
> I am having trouble visualizing it.
>
> Thanks
> -Tim

We have a bolster in our '64 GlobeTrotter.  Basically it is a small cushion
that supports the back in the upright position and is part of the mattress
when in the bed position.  Here are a couple pictures:

www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/during/cushions/sofa.jpg
www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/during/cushions/bed.jpg

The bolster is the small cushion up against the wall.  It has a piece of
1/4" plywood in the bottom to support it when made into the bed.  The seat &
back are hinged together. The "seat" cushion is on the outside & the "back"
cushion is in the middle.  The turquoise shelf also supports the back, it is
hinged and folds flat to the wall it desired when the bed is made-up.  This
picture shows the receiving end for the surface mounted sliding lock that
holds up the shelf in the sofa position.

www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/GlobeTrotting/SnowMtn/lily5.jpg

Hopefully this helps...

Shari




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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:53:56 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems .  .  .

Hi Dr. G,

I did all the obvious stuff except remove the water tank up front.  Started
cutting out the belly and have finally located what looks like the proper
coded wires.  It started raining hard again, so I retreated inside.  No
choice now, but to continue with making a major hole.  Should be to the
connections this afternoon.  No conduit, just clamps holding the wire.

Guess the factory hookup was wired per usual, connecting the umbilical via
wire nuts and tape.  These were inside the enclosed portion of the A frame.
I was able to gain enough slack from the inner belly to determine what was
wrong.  All the wire nut connectors were badly corroded and several were
apart.  The ground lug on the A frame was badly corroded.

Now, I'm trying to figure out the wiring code for the trailer vs. the
current code.  At least I have the charge line to supply power while I check
the lights and brakes.  Always a headache for me.

However, I sure need some advice about the wire splices I'm making.  I've
used the anticorrosive paste inside some of the wire nuts to see if it would
prevent the corrosion.  I've also used the dielectric grease for the same
purpose.  Tried to coat the wire nut, etc. with liquid tape to see if things
would stay together.  This was mostly in the light fixtures.  With the
Argosy, it's the AC wiring and I'm worried about vibration and the wire
nuts.  Do you have a recommendation?  Also, the DC connectors for the
umbilical need some special attention so there won't be a repeat failure.
Any ideas?

Next I have to get with those nasty running lights with the shell ground.
:(  However, I read many of your posts concerning how to deal with them.
Thanks!

                                      Regards, '74 Argosy 22 & '69 Safari
23, Joy




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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:50:42 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aluminum fasteners and corrosion

All the metallic oxides tend to be insulating ceramics, and quite hard.
I don't see how adding an abrasive, however fine, helps to isolate the
metals. Seems to me it would guarantee removing protective oxides that
would lead to more corrosion from the other moisture constituents of the
ointment.

A truss screw head is a low oval head without the countersunk part. Its
a wider screw head that doesn't stick up much, tends to be round in
cross section, but much less tall than a round head. A squashed round
head would describe it. Not nearly as tall, but wider and still smoothly
round.

See page 2753 at www.mcmaster.com

Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:11:17 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: List Admin

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Webmaster,

I'm assuming that my Argosy is still considered "Airstream"?

             '69 Safari 23
             '74 Argosy 22

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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:15:45 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: buying a'74 sovereign 31'

Jeff
Myself ,my mate our 2 kids and a menagarie of animals are full timing it 
while we build our house in a 31ft 1971 Sovereign .we have been at it a year 
and I am always amazed at how well it accomidates us. I have a few 
psychosocial sugestions( survival tips) Don't sweat the small stuff. Don't 
freak out unless at least 3 people from the VAC list tell you to. breath, 
get lots of exercise, and remember.... people have been doing this since the 
early 1950's and there MUST be something to it since they've been doing it 
that long! have a good time!!!!!!!
Gina


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>we have found a 1974 Sovereign  31' that we think will work well for us. I 
>have two questions to post:
>
>1.            The trailer is in good shape and we are confident that it is 
>what the current owners say it is. In the course of my own inspection I 
>found some popped rivets on the belly pan. When I tap on the loose  sheets, 
>small bits of debris fall out. They are small bits of rust.When I tried to 
>find an area to further inspect the frame (without being too invasive) I 
>opened the rear storage compartment. This compartment has a broken hinge 
>and does not close completely, which could be another source of water 
>invasion. With a bit of manipulation I was able to touch a piece of the 
>frame that runs laterally to the length of the trailer,the bumper probably 
>attaches here. A piece of rust scale came off that was about the size of a 
>US quarter and about twice as thick. I know this is a wet area because of 
>the waste pipe storage,so some rust is expected. But I can tap on the under 
>side of the trailer as I walk the perimeter  and hear the sound of the rust 
>as it bounces on the aluminum. Normal?
>
>2.        I would like to tow the trailer with a vintage auto yet to be 
>purchased. My ideal; an Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser station wagon. We are 
>prepared to get a Suburban, but if the right "car" was found I would be 
>psyched (my wife?  not exactly with me on the nostalgic side of the car). 
>Any encouraging words?
>
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>




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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:16:18 -0700
From: Pearl Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: re security

Hi all       I too wonder about the safety in America since the 9/11 bit has
really caused a lot of intense security feeling.    for years I have traveled
alone towing a 30'
A/S and done a lot of boondocking.....   years ago signed up for a mace course
and
have the thing somewhere in the trailer but where I haven't found it for
years....if I
stop like in a Wal Mart Parking lot or a Rest area I usually lock the door but
many times in recreation areas like Glamis CA or the campgrounds on the Colorado
river or Yosemite Seauoia  or large truckstops    I forget to lock it  but now
with strange things going on in peoples minds and  more nd more turning to crime
since they can't find work will be a lot more careful in future    Pearl in
SoCal

Steve Smithwick wrote:

> ----------------------------------------
> Wow!!! I read this list every day and I am amazed to find the list suddenly
> sounding like a right wing survivalist group.
>  I have enjoyed reading these lists daily with postings from colourful
> characters like Tuna ,the Tylers, Gerald Johnson, Daisy ,Lefty and Cruiser
> Bob.
> It has given me a vision of a Capra-esqe world of middle America and I have
> admired the way everyone is so helpful to each other and ready to offer
> advice or tips to help keep the small town of 'VAC' alive and thriving.
> This intrusion of the real has shocked me and disturbed the world of cyclo
> polishers and thetford slideomatics, Hell what will Andy from inlandrv say
> about this? Maybe he keeps a kalashnicof under the dinette. Maybe Cruiser
> Bob is planning to take out the socialists in'Kalifornia'? I dont think so,
> but maybe Daisy might have a Magnum under her cork floor to protect her
> fantastic fan?
> Please return to the vintage airstreams, this has given me a whole new take
> on the deadbolt story.
> I am not totally serious, as the list (like any small town) has a wide range
> of people on it, that Toby is a poet after all and I have read some
> interesting renewable energy (solar panels) tips from the others. Up to now
> ive enjoyed the philosophical comments tied to signatures my favourite being
> tuna's  I can only please one person per day.
> >Today is not your day.
> >Tomorrow is not looking good either.
>
>   I have a 66 tradewind it is a beautiful thing a design classic and an
> American Icon, and in case I did not say I enjoy and am grateful for this
> list but this NRA bs scares me.
>
> Steve Smithwick
> 66 Tradewind
> London
> UK
>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:28:44 -0400
From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overpriced

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Jason,
Where are you in the Great Lakes Region? I know of a 69 21 footer for
sale in WI near Green Bay.
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
 
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler
 
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Subject: [VAC] Re: Overpriced
 
I'm one of those who recently joined, very enthusiastic about A/S's and
travel, but looking for our family's first rig too!  Any help, or leads
in the Great Lakes region would be greatly appreciated! 

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/font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>68 =
Sovereign<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of </span></b>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>
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2002 1:42
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Multiple recipients =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [VAC] Re: =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'm one of those who =
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joined, very enthusiastic about A/S's and travel, but looking for our =
family's
first rig too! &nbsp;Any help, or leads in the Great Lakes region would =
be
greatly appreciated! <br>
<br>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:00:46 -0600
From: "Pete Ryner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: loose cabinet doors...

Yosef,
The only way to tighten them up is to lower the cabinets.  There are a
couple of screws in the closet and in the cabinets in the kitchen which hold
the ends up.  About half way down the long cabinet, there is a piece of
plywood paneling attached to a curved bracked on the ceiling.  You can
either drill out the rivets on the bracket, or unscrew the plywood from the
cabinet.  There are screws all along the bottom back of the cabinet along
the wall.  The screws go up through an aluminum strip which is riveted to
the wall.  You may be able to lower the long cabinet enough without removing
them, but you will probably have to loosen them.  Get some help. as the
cabinet is heavy and will fall once the screws are removed and the seals
broken (between the rubben gasket and the front wall and closet.  Hope this
helps.
Pete

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Yosef P. Rosen
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:22 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] loose cabinet doors...


Hi all, my 1967 20' Globetrotter has cabinets that go along the length of
its ceiling along both sides of the center hallway.  The doors for these
cabinets swing upward and the hinges are very close to the ceiling.  There
are screws along the top that hold the doors and hinges in place and they
are loose and I have no idea how to get a screwdriver in there to tighten
them.  Do I need to remove the whole roof to do this???  I tried one of
those 90 degree angle ratchet screwdrivers, but even that's too big to get
in there.  Thanks for any brilliant and simple ideas!

Yosef Rosen
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Message Number: 14
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:06:36 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Bix Stripper Techniques

Tim,
    Try using a plastic wool.  It has a much better way of grabbing the
loosened clear coat than a brush.  I have not had any problems with plastic
wool scratching but if you have some scratches they should come out later on
when you polish :)
    Whether or not you choose to polish oxidation will begin and take it's
gradual course toward dulldom.  I have been told that waxing does slow down
oxidation but have chosen to accept the natural patina until that glorious
day when I get the ambition to once again polish my coach.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA

> I tried using a nylon brush to spread the stripper around but that did not
> seem to help, and may have put some scratches on.  Hard to tell if the
> scratches were there already.
>
> Also, after it's all stripped, do I have to wax it to keep it that way, (
> not interested in the mirror polish yet).
>
> -Tim
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:55:01 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Bix Stripper Techniques

I will look into the plastic wool, thanks for the tip.

Basically I wanted my trailer to be all one even color.  The way it looks
now is splochy (is that a word...)  So even if the shine fades as long as
its uniform that would be ok.  I am going to look into some sort of wax.

I have some large black marks that do not appear to be affected by the
stripper.  Any ideas there?

-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302

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To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Help with Bix Stripper Techniques


> Tim,
>     Try using a plastic wool.  It has a much better way of grabbing the
> loosened clear coat than a brush.  I have not had any problems with
plastic
> wool scratching but if you have some scratches they should come out later
on
> when you polish :)
>     Whether or not you choose to polish oxidation will begin and take it's
> gradual course toward dulldom.  I have been told that waxing does slow
down
> oxidation but have chosen to accept the natural patina until that glorious
> day when I get the ambition to once again polish my coach.
>
> Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
>
> > I tried using a nylon brush to spread the stripper around but that did
not
> > seem to help, and may have put some scratches on.  Hard to tell if the
> > scratches were there already.
> >
> > Also, after it's all stripped, do I have to wax it to keep it that way,
(
> > not interested in the mirror polish yet).
> >
> > -Tim
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> > eFax (508) 590-0302
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:05:21 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Twin bed question

Ah...  now I know what a bolster is.

Thanks!

-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
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From: "Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:19 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Twin bed question


>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> > Can someone discribe a bolster or show me a picture?
> >
> > I am having trouble visualizing it.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Tim
>
> We have a bolster in our '64 GlobeTrotter.  Basically it is a small
cushion
> that supports the back in the upright position and is part of the mattress
> when in the bed position.  Here are a couple pictures:
>
> www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/during/cushions/sofa.jpg
> www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/during/cushions/bed.jpg
>
> The bolster is the small cushion up against the wall.  It has a piece of
> 1/4" plywood in the bottom to support it when made into the bed.  The seat
&
> back are hinged together. The "seat" cushion is on the outside & the
"back"
> cushion is in the middle.  The turquoise shelf also supports the back, it
is
> hinged and folds flat to the wall it desired when the bed is made-up.
This
> picture shows the receiving end for the surface mounted sliding lock that
> holds up the shelf in the sofa position.
>
> www.insideout-design.net/maxwell/GlobeTrotting/SnowMtn/lily5.jpg
>
> Hopefully this helps...
>
> Shari
>
>
>
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Message Number: 17
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:17:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Simply Shocking!!!

That is what my house is when it has been plugged in for a few hours and
then you attempt to open the door. The only thing that I believe I can
eliminate as the problem is the cord since it does not happen when the
breaker is off. But, where do I go from there? Any suggestions?

rusty



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Message Number: 18
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 05:28:34 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: re security

Hi Pearl,

Mace is a great idea and I've seen it keep the victim alive, though injured.
For personal defense while camping, I prefer Tarus along with a powerful
flashlight and LOCK the Airstream entry door! :)  Might be a good idea to
get one of the mace units that fit on you key chain - you'll always know
where it is.

                                            '69 Safari, Joy




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Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:33:58 -0400
From: "AnnJackob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overpriced

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  Jason,

  Where are you in the Great Lakes Region? I know of a 69 21 footer for =
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  Ed

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Message Number: 20
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:16:15 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Twin bed question

Dick. The bolster is placed between the wall and the seat cushion. This adds 
to the width of the mattress.

Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com


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Message Number: 21
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:04:41 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems .  .  .

The wire nuts that are soft plastic with a spring wire insert bite into
the wire and when filled with wire hold quite well with vibration. Those
are made by 3M and Ideal. Ideal is advertising silicone gel filled wire
nuts for corrosive applications. Otherwise enough dielectric grease to
completely cover the wires and fill the wire nuts should accomplish the
same thing with much more mess. Clean the wires back to bare uncorroded
wire. That usually means stripping some more insulation.

The grease and zinc crystals of aluminum conductor grease may work in
the wire nut also.

It would be to the benefit of the umbilical cord connections to enclose
them in a container, but won't make doing them easier.

Airstream used its own color codes for the umbilical which always
confuses others working at the plug, If you can select the modern
collection of colors while rewiring the umbilical junction you can make
future maintenance easier. If there's any problem with the umbilical
cover, plug, or length a new umbilical may be a good investment. I know
that a new plug is far easier than cleaning up corrosion on an old plug,
then I apply dielectric grease to keep the connections clean from
corrosion and hook ups have been a pleasure the last two years after
doing that.

Gerald J.
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Message Number: 22
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:04:44 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simply Shocking!!!

There IS a problem in the cord, and somewhere else.

First the safety ground (green wire) is not properly grounded at the
trailer, plug, or receptacle. Fix that first, else you may find yourself
flat on the ground when you touch the door handle. 120 volt shocks are
nasty in that they can put the heart into fibrillation and recovery from
fibrillation requires a defibrillator within three or four minutes.
After that the brain dies.

Then check the connections in the receptacle feeding the trailer as well
as both ends of the trailer cord. Green is safety ground, black is hot,
white is neutral (grounded at the building service equipment, kept
separate from green after that).

The problem in the trailer can be anywhere in any wire, a wire pinched,
a miswired receptacle, a broken receptacle, switch, or lamp socket, or a
faulty appliance. It can be intermittent depending on the heat of an
appliance (including the battery charger) having operated for a few
hours. Use the breakers in the trailer to isolate the circuit or show
that its the main.

This can be a task for a qualified electrician.

Gerald J.
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Message Number: 23
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:41:41 -0000
From: "Mitch Hill - K1FH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SOLAR Charge controler/regulator

Greetings all,

I am looking for a new SOLAR charge controller/regulator to use with a pair of 
SP75 75 watt panels.  I am most impressed with the technical data I read 
about the new type  MPPT controllers, in particular the RV Power Products 
SB2000E.  

I am leaning strongly with purchasing this controller, however as I operate 
communications equipment, I am concerned with RFI either from the 
controller to the receiver or from the 100 watt transmitter affecting the 
controller.  

In the first instance, the SB2000E controller is a 35Khz DC/DC switching 
regulator, can the hash from this be a problem with a high sensitivity 
communications receiver operating in the 2-30 Mhz range?  

In the actual installation I am planning, the SOLAR controller would be 
mounted within 2-3 feet of the radio gear, the SOLAR installation wiring runs 
through the same egress opening as the antenna cables for the 
communications equipment.

I would be very interested in hearing from anyone using the SB2000E 
controller and of your experiences with it.

TNX, 73, Mitch Hill - K1FH
'64 Airstream Ambassador
WBCCI  21960


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Message Number: 24
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:30:47 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Airstreams in museums

Happy Monday to everyone, 

Only 5 more days to the weekend.

I live in a city that like many others doesn't allow trailers to be
stored in my driveway, or any other driveway for that matter. I am in
the process of sending a letter/rant with regards to this. My question
is: Are there any museums that have an A/S as an exhibit. There must be
some museums of industrial design or similar that recognize the
historical value of an American icon that has been around since 1936.

My point is going to be along the lines:

Why is it that my neighbor can park his rusted 1982 Honda Civic in his
driveway with impunity yet I can't park my vintage Airstream, an
American icon that is proudly displayed in the following museums:

1. etc...

I know it won't make one iota of difference to the rules but I feel it
has to be said.

Mel and Sheila
'72 Trade Wind
Cleveland, OH  


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Message Number: 25
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:12 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in museums

Hi, Melvin,

This isn't exactly the endorsement you were hoping for, but I can tell you
this little story.  I am the curator at the Golden State Museum in
Sacramento, and among our plans (when we get funding) is to add a permanent
exhibit that would include an Airstream (a small one made in CA).  This
exhibit, which would focus on use of the environment, was actually in the
original drawings/plans for the museum (we opened in 1998), but ended up
getting axed when funding ran short.  

The Towe Auto Museum here in Sacramento currently has a temporary exhibit
called "Home on the Road" that has an Airstream, a Clipper if I remember
correctly, as well as a Bowlus, a Hunt House Car, and one other that I've
forgotten.  Exhibit runs till Labor Day.

Good luck with your parking issues.  I'd like to park mine in my driveway,
too, unfortunately the driveway is about 2 feet narrower than the trailer!

Best,

Amanda
'68 Safari

Original Message:
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From: Melvin Mudgett-Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:30:47 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VAC] Airstreams in museums


Happy Monday to everyone, 

Only 5 more days to the weekend.

I live in a city that like many others doesn't allow trailers to be
stored in my driveway, or any other driveway for that matter. I am in
the process of sending a letter/rant with regards to this. My question
is: Are there any museums that have an A/S as an exhibit. There must be
some museums of industrial design or similar that recognize the
historical value of an American icon that has been around since 1936.

My point is going to be along the lines:

Why is it that my neighbor can park his rusted 1982 Honda Civic in his
driveway with impunity yet I can't park my vintage Airstream, an
American icon that is proudly displayed in the following museums:

1. etc...

I know it won't make one iota of difference to the rules but I feel it
has to be said.

Mel and Sheila
'72 Trade Wind
Cleveland, OH  



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Message Number: 26
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:01 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in museums

Amanda,

This is perfect. My list can be proposed exhibits as well as current. I
haven't ever measured my driveway! Well it's the principal that's at
stake, even if it won't fit in the driveway I'd like to be able to park
it there if I so wish.

Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: Airstreams in museums


Hi, Melvin,

This isn't exactly the endorsement you were hoping for, but I can tell
you this little story.  I am the curator at the Golden State Museum in
Sacramento, and among our plans (when we get funding) is to add a
permanent exhibit that would include an Airstream (a small one made in
CA).  This exhibit, which would focus on use of the environment, was
actually in the original drawings/plans for the museum (we opened in
1998), but ended up getting axed when funding ran short.  

The Towe Auto Museum here in Sacramento currently has a temporary
exhibit called "Home on the Road" that has an Airstream, a Clipper if I
remember correctly, as well as a Bowlus, a Hunt House Car, and one other
that I've forgotten.  Exhibit runs till Labor Day.

Good luck with your parking issues.  I'd like to park mine in my
driveway, too, unfortunately the driveway is about 2 feet narrower than
the trailer!

Best,

Amanda
'68 Safari

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Melvin Mudgett-Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:30:47 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VAC] Airstreams in museums


Happy Monday to everyone, 

Only 5 more days to the weekend.

I live in a city that like many others doesn't allow trailers to be
stored in my driveway, or any other driveway for that matter. I am in
the process of sending a letter/rant with regards to this. My question
is: Are there any museums that have an A/S as an exhibit. There must be
some museums of industrial design or similar that recognize the
historical value of an American icon that has been around since 1936.

My point is going to be along the lines:

Why is it that my neighbor can park his rusted 1982 Honda Civic in his
driveway with impunity yet I can't park my vintage Airstream, an
American icon that is proudly displayed in the following museums:

1. etc...

I know it won't make one iota of difference to the rules but I feel it
has to be said.

Mel and Sheila
'72 Trade Wind
Cleveland, OH  



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Message Number: 27
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:15:03 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in museums

The idea that Airstream's or any other travel trailer cannot be parked on a
person's property is totally un-American.  Whatever happened to Liberty &
the Pursuit of Happiness.  Furthermore an Airstream can provide an ideal
apartment for a relative who is just getting their start in life.

I remember seeing pictures of Airstream cities after WW2 where ex-GI's were
given a basic accommodations while attending trade schools.  These same GI's
went on to build post war America.  Now their kids just want to keep an
Airstream on their property and are prohibited by today's unenlightened
officials.

Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Why is it that my neighbor can park his rusted 1982 Honda Civic in his
> driveway with impunity yet I can't park my vintage Airstream, an
> American icon



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Message Number: 28
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:26:05 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '74 Argosy Electrical Problems .  .  .

Hi Dr. G.

I opted for a bit different approach to using wire nuts, but it was an
impromptu approach.  Well wire unions need to be water proof and
mechanically very strong.  Unfortunately, these will only connect up to #10
leads - OK for all except the trailer charge line because it's #8.  No
problem as the supply from the truck is #10.  Back to the well wire
connectors.  These have a butt type connector that   you slide the bitter
end of each wire into.  My wire crimping tool makes a dent in the tube (the
kind for non-insulated connectors).  A 5" secton of very thick shrink tubing
is included with the kit.  The shrink tube will reduce to at least a number
18 covered wire.  Anyway, I'll use these for the AC as well because they
have great mechanical strength and are water proof.  The shrink tubing will
keep the wires in place even if the connector burns out.  I coated all wires
with dielectric grease prior to  heat shrinking.

For those interested, this is the adaption of wire codes I needed to operate
the trailer lights.
   2001 Ford                                             '74 Argosy
Color at Truck          Function           Color at trailer
White #10                  Ground                 White #10
Red #14                        Left turn/stop           Red #14
Black #10                  Charge                 Blue #8
Brown   #14                Right turn/stop        Brown #14
Blue  #10                 Trailer Brake            Yellow #10
Yellow  #10              Backup                    Black #12
Dk Green  #12           Trail/run lights       Light green #14

I purposely have not included the pin number as I alway get confused from
the aspect of observation.  Color to color is much easier for me to
understand.  The wiring only supports four wheel and not six wheel.  The
brake line on my Ford is not adequate for six wheels.

I'm now purpelxed over the break away wiring.  I just don't understand the
wiring.  I understand the principle, but not the wiring.  HELP?

At the aft end of the Argosy, I had to repair the street backup and stop
light.  The ground connection is micky mouse and I'll have to come back to
it later.  I had to clean the corrosion out of one receptacle and replace
the spring in another.  Coated all with dielectric grease and hope this
keeps them functioning for several years.  I hate frame ground connections!
:)

I still have to get after the running lights an hope that the problem is
burned out bulbs.

While I have th ceiling opened, I'm thinking that I should run an AC line
for the water heater that is in the right front street side.  Is it worth
while to have AC accilenary heat for the water heater. I would add another
breaker for the AC service and understand that I couldn't run the air
conditioner when the microwave or water heater were in use.  Most of my
camping will be in campgrounds where AC power is available.

It goes without real commentary that I have to run both a phone and cable TV
service while before I close the ceiling.

The gear on the antennae is broken and I know I've read many posts on the
appropriate repair.  However, is a TV antennae all that useful?  I'm
inclined to set up my dish for DirecTV as being more practical and
eliminating the several dollar cost at each  camp ground for the cable
hook-up.  Any ideas?

Thanks for your previous reply regarding the mechanical strength of wire
nuts with appropriate paste.

Do you have much experience with liquid tape?  I accidentally cut the lead
to my front lawn light and used copious amounts of  this over wire nut
connections.  The hole I dug to make the repair filled with water several
time and didn't blow the GFI.  Of course, I'm going to replace the wire nuts
with the well wire connectors, but what about liquid tape?

That's it for today as the ambient temperature was 92 and the pavement
temperature was punishing.  It was all I could do to complete the
preliminary wiring of the umbilical.  Took several wine coolers to get me
back into shape to sit at the computer - really wanted to be back out
working on the Argosy.

Thanks for your reply and information,

                                           Regards, '74 Argosy 22
                                                          '69 Safari 23, Joy






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Message Number: 29
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug and Terry Rowbottom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in museums

Hi Melvin;
The Shelburn Museum in Vermont has a display including
an Airstream, a 1957 in fact. They have a three year
travelling display that opened beginning of June.

Doug


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Message Number: 30
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:48:47 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream story

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like a well deserved recognition of Airstream's role in the waning days =
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Bob Kiger  http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari=20
Mira Mar Mobile Park
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  Airtream story on CBS's Sunday Morning program, July 14th.

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  For close to 70 years the airstream has been a mainstay of American =
culture. It's streamlined aerodynamic design is immediately recognizable =
and considered by design historians as one of the most important =
industrial designs of the 20th Century. Helping to usher in the mobile =
home and our love affair with the road as our manifest destiny it =
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