VACList DigestVACList-Digest       Sunday, August 18, 2002      Issue 398
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: Creature Comfort
        2. Re: Trip report
        3. Attitude....get over it boys:)
        4. Re: Trip report
        5. Jordan Ultima Group Buy
        6. Re: ntro/needs help
        7. Re: 
        8. Re: Attitude
        9. Re: Veneers and panelling and thoughts on '70's A/S design
       10. Re: ntro/needs help
       11. Re: ntro/needs help
       12. Re: Disc Brakes
       13. Re: Estes Park Rally Pictures
       14. Re: ntro/needs help
       15. Re: 1971 Sovereign Hubcaps
       16. Re: Veneers and panelling and thoughts on '70's A/S design
       17. LP regulators




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Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 19:37:16 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creature Comfort


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> My plans are to install two smaller version wall
> away recliners.

Thanks for all of the input. The front couch in our trailer is just for
sitting, we sleep in the rear twins. As for foam, we put that in when we
recovered it. As for people sleeping over, This is a trailer built for 2.

Now on with the project. I bought two smaller foot print leather recliners
today. They measure around 32" across. That should give me room for a small
table in between. The base is such that I can anchor them to the floor
without a problem and still should be able to use the dinner table. I will
take some pics before, during and after. Off to get the A/S from storage so
I can get started early tomorrow morning.

Don Hardman



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Message Number: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 19:15:57 -0600
From: "gshippen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trip report

Ken,  I always towed our 26 foot Overlander in direct drive in the mountains
and even shifted it down moreso on hills, etc.  However I ran in overdrive
on all the downhills and flats.  That way you are probably keeping it down
to 2200 RPMs.  As I recall your trailer is a 22 foot which should be a
little lighter.  I think if you have an engine oil cooler and transmission
cooler you will be ok.  I always tryed to change my oil at regular intervals
like every 3000 miles or so.  I even tryed to really treat her good and use
synthetic oil which immediately leaked out every possible gasket and seal.
So I put 10w40 Pensoil back into it.  Ofcourse you know it was burning a lot
oil by 260,000 miles but you really don't notice it that much with the
diesel.  Now I have the 5.7 liter gas Sub but it doesn't sit on the road  as
nicely as the old diesel because it's much lighter.  The old diesel put a
lot of soot in the Airstream from the tailpipe which my wife didn't care
for!

Have you used any bio-diesel yet.  I like the idea of burning used cooking
oil.  I'm hoping Chevy will get that new diesel in the Suburbans soon.

Happy dieseling! GAS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:48 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Trip report


> Gerald, wasn't the 84 a 6.2 - non turbo?  Boy I hope I get 260,000 out of
> mine - its got 87,000 miles on it now and I keep it in perfect condition.
>
> I'm concerned about running it constantly at 2700 RPM in direct drive, but
> thats what I have to do to maintian 60mph. Do you know what RPM you ran
> yours at towing - my manuel says not to tow anything in overdrive.
However
> in direct drive I could tow either trailers strait up a mountain side and
> engine/transmission would not know it - thats the great part.
>
> Ken Johansen
> 5358
> 59 Traveler
> 75 Tradewind
>
>
>
> At 11:27 PM 8/16/02 -0600, you wrote:
> >Ken, my old 1984 suburuban with a 6.5 diesel got about the same, however
we
> >once got 14 heading for Flagstaff from Moab. I liked the diesel though,
ran
> >it to 260,000 miles before trading.  Happy trails. GAS
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:32 AM
> >Subject: [VAC] Re: Trip report
> >
> >
> >> Gerald - My Suburban is a 94 and I got between 10.5 and 13 mpg.  The
10.5
> >> was towing in direct drive and when I towed in overdrive (I know your
not
> >> supposed to )(in the flats)  I got 13.  I've got a 4:11 rear. This is
less
> >> then I think I should get - I get up to 19 running free and this
trailer
> >is
> >> light.  Its interesting that I get the same performance towing the
5,000
> >> pound Tradewind.  I should also note that we had a rack full of bikes
on
> >> top of the Suburban - its amazing that I loose about 3mpg with just
that.
> >>
> >> Ken Johanen
> >> 5358
> >> 59 Traveler
> >> 75 Tradewind
> >>
> >> At 10:39 PM 8/15/02 -0600, you wrote:
> >> >Greetings Kenneth,
> >> >Nice note on your trip.  What year diesel Sub to you have and what
kind
> >of
> >> >mieleage do you get?
> >> >Gerald Shippen
> >> >66 Overlander
> >> >62 Globe Trotter (under restoration)
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:30 PM
> >> >Subject: [VAC] Trip report
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Just got back from a 4500 mile trip with our 59 Traveler from
Colorado
> >to
> >> >> New Jersey shore and back and thought I would share a couple of
> >> >observations.
> >> >>
> >> >> The trailer was flawless - I had a couple of concerns (besides
making
> >it)
> >> >> with the trailer before I left.  My biggest concern was the polish
> >job -
> >> >> how it would hold up in heat/weather/rain/humitity etc etc.  It did
> >great
> >> >> when I got back had some water spots on it that will come out when I
do
> >my
> >> >> annual buffing.  I am amazed how well the trailer holds a polish -
my
> >once
> >> >> per year going over with AP-300 keeps it looking great.
> >> >>
> >> >> Second is we tow it with a 3/4 ton Suburban Diesel and was concerned
> >that
> >> >> it would be rough on the trailer - again no problems at all.  We
> >> >> encountered lots of bumpy roads also with no problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd say the biggest problem we had is my two boys who got real tired
of
> >> >all
> >> >> the people who stop us to look at the trailer - For me its a great
way
> >to
> >> >> meet people and talk about Airstreams - restoration and most of the
> >> >> questions I get is about polishing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway I thought I would post this because we rarely seem to hear on
> >this
> >> >> list how these old trailers really do in everyday towing long
> >distances.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ken Johansen
> >> >> 5358
> >> >> 59 Traveler
> >> >> 75 Tradewind
> >> >>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:03:13 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Attitude....get over it boys:)



<< I have had some invaluable knowledge from folk via this list, and have
 been able to help a few myself in return.  >>

Thanks Will...I think that's the best thing said so far...at least in summing 
it up:)

Come on, anyone with an Airstream called SMART has got to have a few more 
issues than just with women. 
Keep the chauvanism to yourself Charles. We could do without the snotty 
comments. Lots of woman obviously have a lot more brains than yourself.

W&J@3 Peaks
8 and counting


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Message Number: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 21:23:42 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trip report

Thanks! - I do only use sythetic - 5w50 Model Delvec every 5000 miles - oil
test comes back great.  My diesel does not put any soot on the trailer.
Have not used bio-diesel.

Ken Johansen
5358
59 Traveler
75 Tradewind

At 07:15 PM 8/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Ken,  I always towed our 26 foot Overlander in direct drive in the mountains
>and even shifted it down moreso on hills, etc.  However I ran in overdrive
>on all the downhills and flats.  That way you are probably keeping it down
>to 2200 RPMs.  As I recall your trailer is a 22 foot which should be a
>little lighter.  I think if you have an engine oil cooler and transmission
>cooler you will be ok.  I always tryed to change my oil at regular intervals
>like every 3000 miles or so.  I even tryed to really treat her good and use
>synthetic oil which immediately leaked out every possible gasket and seal.
>So I put 10w40 Pensoil back into it.  Ofcourse you know it was burning a lot
>oil by 260,000 miles but you really don't notice it that much with the
>diesel.  Now I have the 5.7 liter gas Sub but it doesn't sit on the road  as
>nicely as the old diesel because it's much lighter.  The old diesel put a
>lot of soot in the Airstream from the tailpipe which my wife didn't care
>for!
>
>Have you used any bio-diesel yet.  I like the idea of burning used cooking
>oil.  I'm hoping Chevy will get that new diesel in the Suburbans soon.
>
>Happy dieseling! GAS
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:48 AM
>Subject: [VAC] Re: Trip report
>
>
>> Gerald, wasn't the 84 a 6.2 - non turbo?  Boy I hope I get 260,000 out of
>> mine - its got 87,000 miles on it now and I keep it in perfect condition.
>>
>> I'm concerned about running it constantly at 2700 RPM in direct drive, but
>> thats what I have to do to maintian 60mph. Do you know what RPM you ran
>> yours at towing - my manuel says not to tow anything in overdrive.
>However
>> in direct drive I could tow either trailers strait up a mountain side and
>> engine/transmission would not know it - thats the great part.
>>
>> Ken Johansen
>> 5358
>> 59 Traveler
>> 75 Tradewind
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:27 PM 8/16/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >Ken, my old 1984 suburuban with a 6.5 diesel got about the same, however
>we
>> >once got 14 heading for Flagstaff from Moab. I liked the diesel though,
>ran
>> >it to 260,000 miles before trading.  Happy trails. GAS
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:32 AM
>> >Subject: [VAC] Re: Trip report
>> >
>> >
>> >> Gerald - My Suburban is a 94 and I got between 10.5 and 13 mpg.  The
>10.5
>> >> was towing in direct drive and when I towed in overdrive (I know your
>not
>> >> supposed to )(in the flats)  I got 13.  I've got a 4:11 rear. This is
>less
>> >> then I think I should get - I get up to 19 running free and this
>trailer
>> >is
>> >> light.  Its interesting that I get the same performance towing the
>5,000
>> >> pound Tradewind.  I should also note that we had a rack full of bikes
>on
>> >> top of the Suburban - its amazing that I loose about 3mpg with just
>that.
>> >>
>> >> Ken Johanen
>> >> 5358
>> >> 59 Traveler
>> >> 75 Tradewind
>> >>
>> >> At 10:39 PM 8/15/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >Greetings Kenneth,
>> >> >Nice note on your trip.  What year diesel Sub to you have and what
>kind
>> >of
>> >> >mieleage do you get?
>> >> >Gerald Shippen
>> >> >66 Overlander
>> >> >62 Globe Trotter (under restoration)
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:30 PM
>> >> >Subject: [VAC] Trip report
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Just got back from a 4500 mile trip with our 59 Traveler from
>Colorado
>> >to
>> >> >> New Jersey shore and back and thought I would share a couple of
>> >> >observations.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The trailer was flawless - I had a couple of concerns (besides
>making
>> >it)
>> >> >> with the trailer before I left.  My biggest concern was the polish
>> >job -
>> >> >> how it would hold up in heat/weather/rain/humitity etc etc.  It did
>> >great
>> >> >> when I got back had some water spots on it that will come out when I
>do
>> >my
>> >> >> annual buffing.  I am amazed how well the trailer holds a polish -
>my
>> >once
>> >> >> per year going over with AP-300 keeps it looking great.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Second is we tow it with a 3/4 ton Suburban Diesel and was concerned
>> >that
>> >> >> it would be rough on the trailer - again no problems at all.  We
>> >> >> encountered lots of bumpy roads also with no problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd say the biggest problem we had is my two boys who got real tired
>of
>> >> >all
>> >> >> the people who stop us to look at the trailer - For me its a great
>way
>> >to
>> >> >> meet people and talk about Airstreams - restoration and most of the
>> >> >> questions I get is about polishing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyway I thought I would post this because we rarely seem to hear on
>> >this
>> >> >> list how these old trailers really do in everyday towing long
>> >distances.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ken Johansen
>> >> >> 5358
>> >> >> 59 Traveler
>> >> >> 75 Tradewind
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 00:18:06 -0400
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Jordan Ultima Group Buy

There is a group buy for the Jordan Ultima brake controller going on at:

http://www.wwcd2.com/

Click on the "Deals Pages" button.

Don (MI)

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: 
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx



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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 10:24:04 -0400
From: "Phil Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntro/needs help


> Todays problem is:  how do we get the shower fiberglass unit off the drain
> pipe?  We got everything out of the bath just fine but can't figure out
the
> secret of getting to the drain.  We have undone all the rivets and water
> connections. Maybe we just have arms that are too short.  Surely you
> wouldn't have to remove the exterior panel would you?
>

Alexis

The drain pipe fitting is threaded. From underneath you have to cut the pvc
pipe and unscrew the fitting. One piece of the drain fitting will be removed
from the tub side and one piece from the underside.

Phil Renner
63 Overlander



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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 10:57:26 EDT
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> 
> it has been fun and i hope to do it again, but baby comes first.
> my 66 lincoln continental convertible pulling rig is also selling.
> 

i can only think that my children are now 8 & 11 , and a trailer would have 
been salvation over the past years................how much the continental?

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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:07:52 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attitude

I too, appreciate a lot of Andy's off list direct help to me personally. 
Because I live only about 120 miles from Jackson Center, I don't buy a lot 
from him, but he gives lots of advice freely, and he seems to really know my 
year and model well. 

As far as a testy environment, it seems to be the national mood at the 
moment. As a performer on fairgrounds all around America, I can tell you 
folks seem a bit more nervous, and less trusting this season, and are 
definitely more skeptical of everything they see or hear. Just look at the 
news headlines for reasons why. But what a joy it is when someone comes 
around the sideshow tent after the show and wants not to ask how I swallow 
swords or fire, but how I keep the Airstream polished, is it new? Or what 
year it is, or they remember great vacations they took with their folks in 
their Airstream. It goes on and on. 

What strikes me still, is how many Airstream owners still do not know of the 
VAC, this list or any of the Online resources (such as Andy's advice). I have 
taken to handing out slips with the web addresses, and membership information 
to WBCCI and VAC. This is because literally thousands of people walk past the 
Airstream, and at least a dozen people a day ask about it. 

I am glad that beyond these challenging times to society and ultimately us, 
the Travel Dream, escapist, or whatever, can still unite us all. Let this the 
spirit on the list. Remember: What Would Wally Do?



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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:39:32 -0400
From: soule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Veneers and panelling and thoughts on '70's A/S design

I posted some photos of the A/S on Shutterfly.  These were taken about a
year ago.  We've done some more work since then and I will post new
photos when available.  For the most part they are self-explanatory, but
I will add captions when I have a chance.

"After" photos.
 http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304dfa7e483

"Before" photos:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304df906584

"Under Construction" photos:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304d8892506

Photos of the front dinette:
 http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304df946580

I'm happy to answer any questions, on-list or off.

Lincoln Soule
'77 Tradewind





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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:29:11 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntro/needs help

Hi Phil,

My work with a '69 Safari  taught me a lot about Airstream assembly
techniques and possible my experiences will help with your problem.  Just
keep in mind that free advice is worth .  .  .

I'm assuming that you have not removed the strainer and "P" trap assembly?
My experience is that the strainer is not removable and must be cut loose
from the bottom of the pan or tub.  Also, the fittings of the "P" trap have
a dab of glue so they are not removable in a single restorable piece.  Add
to this, direct replacements are not generally available.  This means that
you must choose where you cut to separate so you can grind, or otherwise
make old fittings work.  This work must be done below the floor.  Typically,
Airstream installed a cup under the "P" trap to help prevent freeze.
Unfortunately, you'll have to drop part of the belly pan to get at the trap.
Also, some restorers suggest not to drop the entire pan section.  Rather,
just cut out what you need and patch the cut out back in later.  Handling
the banana curve, trim strip, and skin wrap is a real pain in the .  .  .

I don't yet have experience with it's removal (soon to experience with my
'74 Argosy 22).  the shower pan sits in the rear curb corner of the bath.
The drain is at the front of the pan and near one side.  The pan sits
directly on the floor.  I'm sure that the "P" trap is mostly hidden by the
gray water holding tank housing and will be very difficult to get at.  It's
logical that part of the "P" trap and drain is butted directly against the
overhead floor.  This will hold the pan tight to the floor.  I used the
rubber type unions to secure difficult plumbing.   Unfortunately, I just
riveted the belly pan section covering this and don't think I can check on
it right now.

The tub in my '69 sits on a plywood platform and at one time, the base was
glued to the plywood.  The 2X4 runners under the plywood were screwed to the
floor.  If the plywood platform isn't separated from the tub/shower pan, all
the plastic surround must be removed to get at the several screws.  I used a
nail saw to cut the screws off as they were to deteriorated to remove with a
screw driver.  All the drain lines in the Safari are above the floor until
they drop directly to the holding tank slide valve assembly.  Only the lower
"U" of the "P" trap extends below the floor through a cutout.  I had to cut
the drain, separate the strainer by cutting the ABS plastic off the metal.
My advice is to study the layout very carefully and make cuts that will
allow reuse of much of the plumbing.

Sorry about the need for access to the under floor of the trailer.

There isn't any good luck fairy when it comes to restoring an Airstream.
The manufacturer only cared about construction, not maintenance and
restoration.  Then, few trailers outlive the components - except when freeze
damage occurs as in my Argosy.  The floor rot in the bathroom of my Safari
was so extensive that I had to remove everything.  While I was at it, I
dropped the belly pan and repaired all the rot areas, made new wheel well
covers, and slowly replacing my destruction! :)

                                        '69 Safari 23, '74 Argosy 22
                                                    Joy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:24 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: ntro/needs help


>
> > Todays problem is:  how do we get the shower fiberglass unit off the
drain
> > pipe?  We got everything out of the bath just fine but can't figure out
> the
> > secret of getting to the drain.  We have undone all the rivets and water
> > connections. Maybe we just have arms that are too short.  Surely you
> > wouldn't have to remove the exterior panel would you?
> >
>
> Alexis
>
> The drain pipe fitting is threaded. From underneath you have to cut the
pvc
> pipe and unscrew the fitting. One piece of the drain fitting will be
removed
> from the tub side and one piece from the underside.
>
> Phil Renner
> 63 Overlander
>
>
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 10:57:40 -0600
From: "gshippen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntro/needs help

Phil, if your A/S is plumbed like mine you can place the handles of pliers
down the drain and unscrew the drain which retains the drain to the tub.
Not a good explaination but try it out and see if it works. GAS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: ntro/needs help


>
> > Todays problem is:  how do we get the shower fiberglass unit off the
drain
> > pipe?  We got everything out of the bath just fine but can't figure out
> the
> > secret of getting to the drain.  We have undone all the rivets and water
> > connections. Maybe we just have arms that are too short.  Surely you
> > wouldn't have to remove the exterior panel would you?
> >
>
> Alexis
>
> The drain pipe fitting is threaded. From underneath you have to cut the
pvc
> pipe and unscrew the fitting. One piece of the drain fitting will be
removed
> from the tub side and one piece from the underside.
>
> Phil Renner
> 63 Overlander
>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 15:26:14 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disc Brakes

Carole and Rob. To add disc brakes to your Airstream can be done, but it will 
be expensive. A "braker" can be installed, which powers the calipers. It only 
requires an input from a good electronic controller. However, they go for 
$840.00.
With the braker installed in place of the original booster assembly that 
Airstream used, the overall operation was superb, in each and every 
conversion that we have made. Several of our customers have also made that 
change, and all report excellent performance.

Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com


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Message Number: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 15:33:03 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Estes Park Rally Pictures

Shari and Rob. 
Now, that what I call "Airstreaming."
Not good for the diet, but fantastic for the fellowship.
Can't have everything.
Outstanding pictures.
Keep up the great work.

Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com


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Message Number: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:07:21 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ntro/needs help

Lexxey. You get at the shower drain from underneath the trailer.

Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com


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Message Number: 15
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 13:29:21 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1971 Sovereign Hubcaps

People will sell theirs whenever they convert their 1970's wheels over 
to the newer aluminum "Rally" style wheel assemblies.  This seems to be 
popular conversion on the later 1970's trailers, and looks pretty good. 
They then sell their leftover 1 to 4 dinnerplate style hubcaps.

The two places I've seen them are:
eBay (enter airstream in search):
http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/basicsearch.html

& the VAC Classifieds:
http://www.airstream.net/classifieds/classifieds.phtml?cat=Parts

Best of luck,
RJ
VintageAirstream.com


On Friday, August 16, 2002, at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> After a wonderful RM rally and 2000 miles with nary a problem, we lost 
> one of our original hubcaps on our 1971 Sovereign less than 20 miles 
> from home (thanks to Missouri's terrible highways).� We went back to 
> retrieve it and found it completely flattened and destroyed.� Does 
> anyone know where we could find a replacement for the original 
> raised-center hubs on early 1970s Internationals?��
> Thanks,
> Ben & Molly
>



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Message Number: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:29:04 -0500
From: "Herb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Veneers and panelling and thoughts on '70's A/S design

Very nice job Lincoln.

Herb Spivey
#6074

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "soule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Veneers and panelling and thoughts on '70's A/S design


> I posted some photos of the A/S on Shutterfly.  These were taken about a
> year ago.  We've done some more work since then and I will post new
> photos when available.  For the most part they are self-explanatory, but
> I will add captions when I have a chance.
> 
> "After" photos.
>  http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304dfa7e483
> 
> "Before" photos:
> http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304df906584
> 
> "Under Construction" photos:
> http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304d8892506
> 
> Photos of the front dinette:
>  http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b304df946580
> 
> I'm happy to answer any questions, on-list or off.
> 
> Lincoln Soule
> '77 Tradewind
> 
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Message Number: 17
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 17:44:43 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LP regulators

http://www.hoic.com/newsletter/ShowArticle.asp?ID=75 reccomends that Lp
regulators older than 15 years be replaced. This recommendation comes
from the LP safety council.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.


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