VACList DigestVACList-Digest Wednesday, August 14, 2002 Issue 394
Today's Topics:
1. cleaning the skin (Soft Scrub?)
2. Re: cleaning the skin (Soft Scrub?)
3. Re: cleaning the skin (Soft Scrub?)
4. rear end separation
5. Re: replacement license plate holder & light
6. 63 airstream for sale
7. Re: rear end separation
8. H20 on demand
9. Re: H20 on demand
10. Re: H20 on demand
11. Univolt vs modern power supplies
12. Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
13. Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
14. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
15. Univolt vs modern power supplies
16. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
17. Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
18. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
19. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
20. Re: H20 on demand
21. Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
22. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
23. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
24. Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
25. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
26. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
27. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
28. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
29. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
30. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
31. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
32. Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
33. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
34. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:03:21 -0700
From: Jack Honeycutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cleaning the skin (Soft Scrub?)
I have re subscribed to this list after about a year off. I think I am
about ready to buy a smaller 18 foot Globe Trotter (not sure of the year yet).
I am going to tow it home and spend a year or so fixing it up. It has been
out in a field for several years. The skin looks to be in good shape, but
it is very, very dirty. Green slime, some black slime, dirt and just
oxidation for 30 or 40 years.
My neighbors would be appalled if I parked this dirty thing in my
driveway. All I want to do now is wash the skin. Sometime in the future I
will buff it out and make it shine like new. But for now, all I want to do
is give the skin a good cleaning so the neighbors don't complain<g>
At CostCo I buy this stuff in a squeeze bottle called "SoftScrub" with
bleach ("Removes greasy dirt, mold and mildew, and soap scum" says the
label). I use it in the kitchen and bathroom. I use it on chrome fixtures
with the sponge that has a sponge side and a abrasive side. I buy the
sponges that are used for Teflon pots and pans so the abrasive side of them
does not scratch my chrome bathroom and kitchen fixtures.
I think this Airstream skin is so filthy, it will take more than just soap
water and a rag to clean it.
I would like to use this "Soft Scrub" on it, but I don't want to do
anything that would cause me problems later on when I try to buff out the
skin and make it shine like new.
Anyone used Soft Scrub on aluminum and have any feedback for me? Anyone
have any suggestions on what to use to wash a *very dirty* Airstream
skin? Maybe TSP?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks.
Jack in Portland Oregon
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:12:37 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cleaning the skin (Soft Scrub?)
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In a message dated 8/13/2002 8:04:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> At CostCo I buy this stuff in a squeeze bottle called "SoftScrub" with
> bleach ("Removes greasy dirt, mold and mildew, and soap scum" says the
> label). I use it in the kitchen and bathroom. I use it on chrome fixtures
>
> with the sponge that has a sponge side and a abrasive side.
I'm thinking that you might want to avoid bleach coming in contact with the
aluminum. TSP sounds like a good idea, though. Don't laugh, but what about
Dawn
dishwashing liquid....it works very well on grease. I'm sure others will
chime in.
Let us know what works for you -
John
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 8/13/2002 8:04:16 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">At CostCo I buy this stuff in a squeeze bottle
called "SoftScrub" with <BR>
bleach ("Removes greasy dirt, mold and mildew, and soap scum" says the <BR>
label). I use it in the kitchen and bathroom. I use it on chrome fixtures
<BR>
with the sponge that has a sponge side and a abrasive side.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
I'm thinking that you might want to avoid bleach coming in contact with the aluminum.
TSP sounds like a good idea, though. Don't laugh, but what about Dawn <BR>
dishwashing liquid....it works very well on grease. I'm sure others will chime in.<BR>
Let us know what works for you - <BR>
John<BR>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:04:15 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cleaning the skin (Soft Scrub?)
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DO NOT use T.S.P.it will etch the aluminum skin and you will have have ahell
of a time buffing it out
Jim Smith
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:44:41 -0500
From: "Steve Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rear end separation
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>From info I have derived from members (thank you all) of the list I =
believe my poor 1973 31' Airstream TT may have "rear end separation" =
from a "broken" frame aft of the rear axle.=20
The trailer is in Annapolis and I am in Austin. Anyone have an idea =
about how to get this thing fixed?
Steve
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:00:14 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacement license plate holder & light
The original Bargman metal light assembly is no longer available. I
replaced the lightsocket and wire on ours with a replacement from the
aurto parts store and then sandblasted and repainted it silver, along
with the license holder.
The Bargman license holder is still available:
http://teardropparts.com/accessories.htm
http://www.tekonsha.com/frproducts.html
Its the 30-62-030, and is available from almost any RV dealer.
RJ
'65 Caravel
'57 Flying Cloud
VintageAirstream.com
On Sunday, August 11, 2002, at 12:46 AM, C. Hale wrote:
> Hello All,
> I thought I remembered different discussions topics about these two
> things.
> Does anyone remember them and the information about replacing these
> parts?
> I'd appreciate your help. I have searched Tom Patterson's site, but
> have
> not been successful.
> Thank you for your help.
> Cindy
> 59 Traveler
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:03:50 -0700
From: "philip birkenfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 63 airstream for sale
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last notice...
i just wanted to let you folks know that i'm taking offers on my baby, i
have until friday to close a deal.
thank you all for your interest!!!!
1963 Airstream Tradewind: 24', $7500.00 *****OBO*****, a/c 2 yrs, 2-way
fridge 3yrs, goucho in front, twin bed center streetside (still set up
for goucho), small bunk above twin, two closets, small dresser with
vanity, full bath in rear with porcelain stool, heat by heat strip in
a/c and electric units, complete new water system, new water fixtures,
water filter, original folding table, single axle, complete electric
brakes and tires 3 yrs, truck type tool box added to frame off rear
bumper (can be removed), twin 30 gal aluminum propane tanks, equalizer
hitch, sway bar, brake module, body very good with partial polish,
carpet and floor 4 yrs, curtains 3 yrs, all original paperwork, 3'rd
owner, used as fulltime unit one of the past four years, did i mention
it comes with the microwave and toaster oven? new baby forces sale, must
sell by 8-17 as I am relocating.
For more information call Philip @ 417-818-7067.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.airstream4sale.com-us.com
please reply off list, thank you!!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks again!!!!
philip springfield, mo
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thank you all for your interest!!!!<br>
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1963 Airstream Tradewind: 24’, $7500.00 *****OBO*****, a/c 2 yrs, 2-way fridge
3yrs, goucho in front, twin bed center streetside (still set up for goucho), small
bunk above twin, two closets, small dresser with vanity, full bath in rear with
porcelaiFor more information call Philip @ 417-818-7067.<br>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:26:47 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rear end separation
Steve. Rear end separation repairs range from a simple 2-3 hour job, up to 35
to 40 hours, when you know how.
What to do can only be stated, after the trailer is carefully inspected. To
render advice on that type of repair doesn't work with generalities.
I would suggest you take it to a dealer that is very familiar with that type
repair. It would appear that your in Texas. I would suggest that you take it
to Bob Jones, in Houston.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:41:59 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: H20 on demand
My RV-500 on demand water heater was installed yesterday afternoon. At
first we could not get the green light that signified 12 volts going into
the heater. I called tech support at Precision Temp and he asked me what
type of charger I had. I told him it was the original Univolt and he
ugghed.
It was decided that we should go directly from the battery and sure
enough on came the green light and HOT water. Left the coach for the night
and came back this morning to find the battery dead. That would seem to
indicate a substantial draw from the RV-500 &/or no charging coming from the
Univolt.
For now I have disconnected the water heater from the battery. Can
anyone give me a sure fire way of checking Univolt output? Is there an
on/off switch for Univolt? I just looked at the inside of the Univolt panel
and one side of the big fuse red 35 amp fuse looks colored. While I wait
and hope for a reply to this dillema I am going to cut power to the coach
and pry out that fuse.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:41:10 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand
Added information: I called Precision Temp and they say that their unit
draws only 20ma when idle and 1amp when heating at full pressure. That
being the case, I doubt that it is the RV-500 that has drained my battery.
Closer inspection of Univolt showed small blown fuse. Both large and small
fuses are on route to an electrician to get checked and replacement. I am
getting this uneasy feeling that I will be buying a new charger B4 days end.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VAC] H20 on demand
> My RV-500 on demand water heater was installed yesterday afternoon. At
> first we could not get the green light that signified 12 volts going into
> the heater. I called tech support at Precision Temp and he asked me what
> type of charger I had. I told him it was the original Univolt and he
> ugghed.
>
> It was decided that we should go directly from the battery and sure
> enough on came the green light and HOT water. Left the coach for the
night
> and came back this morning to find the battery dead. That would seem to
> indicate a substantial draw from the RV-500 &/or no charging coming from
the
> Univolt.
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:48:20 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand
Bob,
While you're having all these good things done to your trailer, why aren't
you planning on replacing that Univolt? An InteliPower is much more
efficient, lighter weight, and more reliable.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:55:37 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Univolt vs modern power supplies
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:48:20 -0700, "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>While you're having all these good things done to your trailer, why aren't
>you planning on replacing that Univolt? An InteliPower is much more
>efficient, lighter weight, and more reliable.
if it ain't broke, leave it alone and save your money. that old sucker was made
for campaigning around the world and will very likely outlast any circuit
boarded machine you buy today. in fact, since the trailer was made for the
Univolt with its panel displays, etc, I would probably seriously consider
rebuilding the Univolt if it cratered.
my opinion
chas
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Charles L Hamilton, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Houston, TX
WBCCI #1130 VAC S*M*A*R*T '76 Sovereign
www.schuetzen.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:09:29 -0700
From: James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
Bob:
With all the work you do on the coach, you should have an inexpensive meter
by now... check the fuses for continuity and if you don't have a meter, rig
up something with a flash light and some wires to put every thing in series
with the fuse... if the bulb lights the fuse is good.... The fuses could
have easily been fried by a short during the work done... if you don't want
to bother with testing, just replace the fuses with the same size fuses
(amp rating) and plug everything back together... If the replacements blow,
you could have a problem with the charger, or the wiring....
Jim
At 11:41 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Added information: I called Precision Temp and they say that their unit
>draws only 20ma when idle and 1amp when heating at full pressure. That
>being the case, I doubt that it is the RV-500 that has drained my battery.
>
>Closer inspection of Univolt showed small blown fuse. Both large and small
>fuses are on route to an electrician to get checked and replacement. I am
>getting this uneasy feeling that I will be buying a new charger B4 days end.
>
>Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
>66 Airstream Safari
>Mira Mar Mobile Park
>Oceanside, CA
>
>From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [VAC] H20 on demand
>
>
> > My RV-500 on demand water heater was installed yesterday afternoon. At
> > first we could not get the green light that signified 12 volts going into
> > the heater. I called tech support at Precision Temp and he asked me what
> > type of charger I had. I told him it was the original Univolt and he
> > ugghed.
> >
> > It was decided that we should go directly from the battery and sure
> > enough on came the green light and HOT water. Left the coach for the
>night
> > and came back this morning to find the battery dead. That would seem to
> > indicate a substantial draw from the RV-500 &/or no charging coming from
>the
> > Univolt.
>
> > Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> > 66 Airstream Safari
> > Mira Mar Mobile Park
> > Oceanside, CA
>
>
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:22:26 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
Jim,
I have always had an aversion to meters :) I do have a test light which
I often use. The problem with my Univolt is that the access cover will not
fully open because it is blocked by PVC vent pipe.
When I finally located the small fuse it was by using a mirror to view
inside the Univolt. It was that small fuse that was blown.
The big mystery of the moment is: What drained the battery overnight?
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> Bob:
> With all the work you do on the coach, you should have an inexpensive
meter
> by now... check the fuses for continuity and if you don't have a meter,
rig
> up something with a flash light and some wires to put every thing in
series
> with the fuse... if the bulb lights the fuse is good.... The fuses could
> have easily been fried by a short during the work done...
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Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:28:14 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Since when does the Univolt have any panel displays? I have yet to see one
that does.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:51:48 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Problem Solved.
When I put the two new fuses (Big 35v 240watt - Small BUSS Mdx 6.25
125v) into the Univolt, all power was restored. The battery, which I
previously wrote "was drained", was NOT drained. One of the fuses in the
Univolt held back DC voltage from appliances in the coach when it was blown.
With new fuses I had instant DC power for fans, lights and HOT WATER :)
Thanx to all for guiding me along.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:05:00 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
35v 240 watt is not a fuse rating. What was it really?
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 17
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:05:07 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
RUN to sears and buy their $49.95 digital clamp on AC/DC
ammeter/multimeter. Then you can check each wire to see where the
current is going. OR hire an electrcian with familarity with DC and AC.
As far as the Univolt going forever, some may, but they were a design
from the dark ages intended to be sure to charge the battery EVEN if the
battery didn't need charging. Good for spinning the electric meter and
destroying the battery, while annoying the resident in the trailer with
a continuous hum.
A bad rectifier (in a true vintage Univolt that might be selenium
capable of harming life with fumes as it goes bad, and I don't find
selenium fumes a pleasant odor) could easily discharge the battery while
power was interrupted to the Univolt.
Further the inherent design of the Univolt is very frequency sensitive
so it should never be used on a portable generator because the output
voltage will vary faster than the frequency varies to further abuse the
battery.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:23:45 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Change to 35amp 250 volt (or less) Thanks for proofing me.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
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From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
> 35v 240 watt is not a fuse rating. What was it really?
>
> Gerald J.
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Message Number: 19
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:10:16 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
It's a little unfair to compare the inteli-power to a univolt thats 25 to 30
years old. Compare the new style univolt to the inteli-power and I think you
would stay with the univolts. First of all with the univolt, you still can
use your power on light. Secondly, it seems most owners are buying "rebuilt"
intel-powers. Gosh, it make me wonder why they have so many rebuilts??? Could
it be that they are not what they are cracked up to be?? That's the info I
have from some owners, but it's too late for them, as they can't take them
back.
If the new style univolts are virtually trouble free, which they are, why
would someone take the risk of buying a product that has not been used on an
Airstream. Attempting to improving on Airstream's design and product choice
seems to be the new thing to do but it all to many times, is taking backward
steps, unless that person has also found out about the latest that Airstream
uses, and "why."
They spend many dollars on research. In my opinion, it would be to one's
benefit to take advantage of that research.
At least that's my humble opinion.
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Message Number: 20
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:18:18 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: H20 on demand
Bob. Much more than what? A 25 to 30 year old univolt? Of course it is.
Compare the inteli-power with todays univolt and I don't think you would be
near as delighted with the inteli-power. But, they do have a vast supply of
rebuilts. I wonder why???
Andy
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Message Number: 21
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:22:50 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
If the Precision temp is heating water with a maximum current draw of 1
ampere, that relates to 12 watts of energy. At that rate, it would take a
long time to heat a gallon of water, without using any of it. At regular
shower hose flow, 12 watts should heat the water up probably one or two
degrees, maybe. Hmmmm.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 22
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:24:50 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Roger. Who wants to look in a closet for the display. Thats why Airstream has
Central Control panels.
Andy
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Message Number: 23
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:41:51 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
What is Airstream currently using - from what it sounds like they are still
using univolts?
Ken Johansen
5358
59 Traveler
75 Tradewind
At 05:24 PM 8/14/02 EDT, you wrote:
>Roger. Who wants to look in a closet for the display. Thats why Airstream
has
>Central Control panels.
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>Andy
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Message Number: 24
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:49:00 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
> If the Precision temp is heating water with a maximum current draw of 1
> ampere, that relates to 12 watts of energy. At that rate, it would take a
> long time to heat a gallon of water, without using any of it. At regular
> shower hose flow, 12 watts should heat the water up probably one or two
> degrees, maybe. Hmmmm.
>
> Andy
> inlandrv.com
> airstreamparts.com
Hey Andy:
The Precision Temp heater uses GAS to heat the water. I would think that
even you would know that.
GQ '67 Safari
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Message Number: 25
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:56:29 -0400
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Anyone that thinks Airstream always knows best should look inside my '72
Tradewind. Who's idea was it too take wood paneling and cover it in
plastic imitation wood?
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth E. Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:42 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
What is Airstream currently using - from what it sounds like they are
still using univolts?
Ken Johansen
5358
59 Traveler
75 Tradewind
At 05:24 PM 8/14/02 EDT, you wrote:
>Roger. Who wants to look in a closet for the display. Thats why
>Airstream
has
>Central Control panels.
>
>Andy
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Message Number: 26
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:02:12 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:56:29 -0400, "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Anyone that thinks Airstream always knows best should look inside my '72
>Tradewind. Who's idea was it too take wood paneling and cover it in
>plastic imitation wood?
answer, who owned Airstream at that time? a company that knew anything about
trailers? No, it was a food processing company.
Lets be realistic here and perhaps, go read the history of the company.
chas
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Charles L Hamilton, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Houston, TX
WBCCI #1130 VAC S*M*A*R*T '76 Sovereign
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Message Number: 27
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:25:15 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:24 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
> Roger. Who wants to look in a closet for the display. Thats why Airstream
has
> Central Control panels.
>
> Andy
>
Yes, but my central control panel still works with the InteliPower. And the
IP hasn't burned up a single battery.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 28
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:29:56 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Ken. A 'Univolt' is simply a name that Airstream has used since 1964 which
makes reference to the converter that they use.
The actual name of the univolt that they have used for the last several years
is Parallax Power Components, which is the old Magnetek. It certainly doesn't
compare to the original univolts either, but far superior. More importantly,
it has had very few failures in or out of warranty.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 29
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:52:38 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Ken. Look at what other people did in 72 as well. Airstream did it to save
weight. But I really think that if Airstream made all these horrible
blunders, why do people fight each other to buy them, especially the vintage
trailers??? Hmmmm. GM built junk cars back then, at least by todays
comparison. I think we can take anyone's product of today and compare it to
their product of 30 years ago, and come away saying, "wow", look at all the
improvements. But where do we find travel trailers that are 30, 40 and 50
years old? Many of them were built, but most of them have gone to trailer
heaven. From that I think most of us would agree that Airstream has always
built a top of the line product, and will continue to do so. It's up to us to
take care of it and as the need be, install upgrades and new products, that
fill our fancies.
After all Ken, nothing lasts forever, but, Airstream is working on it. So far
they have reach 70 years. Not bad. Could be they always knew what they were
doing, some of us perhaps are just learning that.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 30
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:02:24 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
What did Beatrice have to do with the product? They didn't change a thing.
They still left all the engineering up to the folks at Airstream. But once
again, why oh why are so many people fighting over the vintage trailers that
were built during the Beatrice Foods day. Some of the new buyers are paying
far more than the trailers originally sold for, and many times purchasing a
coach that has been through "all" the battles, inside and out. Could be that
they love the basic product.
We receive calls every day from owners that want "all" the original
equipment.
Bottom line I guess, is that the old stuff makes some of us happy, and some
of us not.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 31
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:03:32 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Andy. Thanks - I have a Magnetek in my Tradewind that was upgraded at some
point in its life, should my power on light be working and if so what do I
need to check to get it working?
The Magnetek is very noisy and in fact we turn it off a night.
Ken Johansen
5358
1959 Traveler
1975 Tradewind
At 06:29 PM 8/14/02 EDT, you wrote:
>Ken. A 'Univolt' is simply a name that Airstream has used since 1964 which
>makes reference to the converter that they use.
>The actual name of the univolt that they have used for the last several
years
>is Parallax Power Components, which is the old Magnetek. It certainly
doesn't
>compare to the original univolts either, but far superior. More importantly,
>it has had very few failures in or out of warranty.
>
>Andy
>inlandrv.com
>airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 32
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:31:43 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
I take responsibilty for the misunderstanding. My original quotes of 20ma
while idle and 1amp when heating was related only to electrical ignition
requirements of the RV-500, with LP gas used for water heating.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: H20 on demand/don't give up yet...
>
> > If the Precision temp is heating water with a maximum current draw of 1
> > ampere, that relates to 12 watts of energy. At that rate, it would take
a
> > long time to heat a gallon of water, without using any of it. At regular
> > shower hose flow, 12 watts should heat the water up probably one or two
> > degrees, maybe. Hmmmm.
> >
> > Andy
> > inlandrv.com
> > airstreamparts.com
>
> Hey Andy:
>
> The Precision Temp heater uses GAS to heat the water. I would think that
> even you would know that.
>
> GQ '67 Safari
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Message Number: 33
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:41:39 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Ken. First make sure the power on light is ok. Then remove the black wire
from the power on light and tie it into the white ground wires. That should
take care of the light for you.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 34
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:41:59 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
I sort of agree with chad when he said "if it ain't broke . . . don't fix
it!" My old Univolt is now working but I am running the wrong size fuse. I
need to find BUSS MDX 6.25watt 125volt fuses. So far no luck at Radio
Shack, Pep Boys, Home Depot or even with an on-line search.
Any leads would be most greatfully appreciated.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
BTW: When my old Univolt does break I would spring for a new Univolt
because the off brand units that I have seen, especially the charge wizard
looked rinky dink. I guess I'm not very scientific :)
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