VACList DigestVACList-Digest Thursday, August 15, 2002 Issue 395
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
2. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
3. looking for about a 20 footer
4. Re: looking for about a 20 footer
5. New Vintage Club DVD
6. Re: New Vintage Club DVD
7. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
8. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
9. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
10. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
11. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
12. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
13. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
14. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
15. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
16. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
17. Re: 70's trailers was Univolt vs modern power supplies
18. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
19. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
20. Veneers and panelling
21. Re: Veneers and panelling
22. Re: Veneers and panelling
23. Re: Veneers and panelling
24. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
25. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
26. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
27. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
28. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
29. Trip report
30. Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
31. Re: looking for about a 20 footer
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:58:10 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
At 07:41 PM 8/14/02 EDT, you wrote:
>remove the black wire
>from the power on light and tie it into the white ground wires
Huh??? I don't understand what your saying
Ken Johansen
5358
1959 Traveler
1975 Tradewind
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:50:34 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
AMP AMP AMP!!! not watt for fuse current rating. Types MDA 6 250 volt,
MDL 6-1/4 if 250 volt, 3AG slo blo 3136.25, or 3AB slo blo 32662.5 from
Bussman or Littlefuse are good replacements for the MDX 6.25 amp 125
volt fuse. Going higher in voltage rating is safe, going lower (like
using a 32 volt fuse on 120 volt circuit) is less safe. These should be
available in any electrical or electronic store (RS isn't either in my
opinion) wholesale or retail. I don't see the MDX fuse line in my 2001
Allied Electronics catalog. It might have been discontinued in favor of
the MDL it tried to replace with a lower priced fuse. If my local
supplier, Electronic Supply of Ames, doesn't have any on the shelf, he
can get them. http://showcase.netins.net/web/esupply/
Allied and Newark Electronics should have San Diego offices but probably
no stock and if you walk in asking for a 6.25 WATT fuse they won't sell
being afraid you might hurt yourself working live circuits. On of my
catalogs says MDL are 32 volts with a 6.25 amp rating. That's not a good
fuse for a 120 volt circuit. I see the MDL 5 in my slow blow fuse box
are 32 volt. Take the old MDX-6.25 with you and say you want a
replacement for a 120 volt circuit.
Automotive stores will have only 32 volt fuses. Good for the battery
side, not good for the AC side.
There are some really super government and industrial surplus stores in
the San Diego area that will likely have fuses. You'll be buying a box
of 5 at about a buck each unless surplus.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:34:03 -0700
From: Jack Honeycutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: looking for about a 20 footer
Well rats! This is he second time a Airstream deal has fallen though for
me. If any of you are close to the Portland area, and have a Airstream to
sell, 18 to 26 feet or so, drop me some email.
I don't want a dump, but I want a low cost one I can fix up. I am a handy
man kind of a guy. I would like one with good skin. I don't care if it
has to sit in my driveway for a year or two before I fix all the stuff with
it.
Drop me some email if you like.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
jack
Portland Oregon
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:49:42 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for about a 20 footer
Jack,
Have you looked at the VAC Classifieds? There are several listings that
might work for you.
http://www.airstream.net/classifieds/classifieds.phtml?cat=Trailers
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:28:53 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Vintage Club DVD
For those of you that are considering getting the Vintage Club's new DVD
of caravan's and the 1968 promotional film, do it. We just received ours
today. Watched the first one this evening. Lots of gee whiz stuff with
the 57 Mexico caravan, the Trans Africa caravan and the 1st part of the
around the world trip. Great stuff. There is also a promotional made in
68 showing the construction and the "lifestyle" benefits. Loved the off
road high speed tests with a Chevy Impala.
Just about every caravan photo I've seen over the years can be seen in
these old films
Charlie
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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:10:37 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Vintage Club DVD
I have to agree with Charlie. These films are great! I brought one home
from the Rocky Mountain Rally and couldn't wait to get to the DVD player.
I was particularly impressed with the hardships the caravaners went through
in the name of fun.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign, '02 F-250 PSD
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:42:41 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The actual name of the univolt that they have used for the last several
years is Parallax Power Components, which is the old Magnetek.
That is what Chris Jones, Bob Jones RV, recommended as a replacement for my
1976 Sovereign over 2 years ago. It has worked great.
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:45:13 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Ken. Look at what other people did in 72 as well. Airstream did it to save
> weight.
How did covering beautiful veneer paneling with a thick plastic wall
covering save weight?
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:39:09 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anyone that thinks Airstream always knows best should look inside my '72
> Tradewind. Who's idea was it too take wood paneling and cover it in
> plastic imitation wood?
This has always bothered me to. My 1976 had beautiful veneer paneling
covered with plastic wall covering. Go figure.
Don Hardman
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:11:18 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:45:13 -0500, "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>How did covering beautiful veneer paneling with a thick plastic wall
>covering save weight?
how do you know it was beautiful veneer paneling?
chas
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:24:46 -0500
From: "Jim Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
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Well, not everyone considers Luan to be a finish wood. Not much
of a grain, and kinda tough to get a good color. It gets used
because of it's strength and light weight.
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Melvin Mudgett-Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Anyone that thinks Airstream always knows best should look inside my '72
>> Tradewind. Who's idea was it too take wood paneling and cover it in
>> plastic imitation wood?
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>This has always bothered me to. My 1976 had beautiful veneer paneling
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>> Anyone that thinks Airstream always knows best should look
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>> Tradewind. Who's idea was it too take wood paneling and
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:31:19 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Airstream purchased panels with a covering. They had no control what kind
paneling was underneath.
On the other hand, there have been a number of prior owners, that installed
coverings.
Lets not blame Airstream on one hand and then fight over buying one on the
other.
They must be doing something right, but in the opinion of some, Airstream has
always been a dismal failure.
Perhaps those select few would be happier with a Shasta or maybe a tent
camper.
It then would be rather difficult to pick on a product that back then had
next to nothing for equipment.
Airstream's success goes along with being an "innovator." That creates within
itself a huge area in which to make mistakes. I personally think that for the
last almost 70 years, they have been "the" leader in their field, and always
will.
If Airstream felt that the Inteli-power converter was better than the
"univolt", they would have used it, especially since it's cheaper.
Andy
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:23:17 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:24:46 -0500, "Jim Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Well, not everyone considers Luan to be a finish wood. Not much
>of a grain, and kinda tough to get a good color. It gets used
>because of it's strength and light weight.
this is true. The main reason that Airstream went to plastic "veneer" according
to a company wag back in the late 80s, was that the Brazilian flame grain dryed
up with a combination of tree hugging in the rain forests and an actual lack of
trees. Thus, my wife and I were damned fortunate to enjoy the beautiful wood in
our honeymoon trailer - fulltime - for three years. It was a '67 Overlander.
fwiw
chas
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:35:09 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Ken. That wire is attached to the power on bulb. Remove the control panel and
you will see the back side of that panel, and the wires.
Andy
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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:51:08 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Kenneth E. Johansen wrote:
>Andy. Thanks - I have a Magnetek in my Tradewind that was upgraded at some
>point in its life, should my power on light be working and if so what do I
>need to check to get it working?
>
>The Magnetek is very noisy and in fact we turn it off a night.
>
The power on light is fed through a third output wire which
comes off the converter before the diodes. This is an option on the
Magnetek (Parallax) models- for the 700 series it is option suffix -6,
for the 900 series it is option suffix -4 (i.e. it would be a model
950-4). It can be added if you open up the converter.
--
Chris Bryant
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Message Number: 16
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:53:22 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Don Hardman wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>> Ken. Look at what other people did in 72 as well. Airstream did it to save
>> weight.
>
>How did covering beautiful veneer paneling with a thick plastic wall
>covering save weight?
I've got to say- I actually *like* the laminate covered
panels- you really cannot get a higher weight to strenth ratio without
going to exotic materials- I mean an 1/8" piece of luau covered both
sides with high pressure laminate is light and very strong.
--
Chris Bryant
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Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:06:42 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 70's trailers was Univolt vs modern power supplies
>From my observations of the 70's trailers is that we are lucky Airstream is
still here. Many many trailer companies went out of business then because
of the gas crisis. Steamline and Bolus included. I think Airstream went
with the times as we all know the 70's will not go down in history as great
style.
In addition my understanding is the reason they went with the laminent
plastic is that it was supposed to last forever with minimal care. I have a
59 with beautiful wood and a 75 with plastic. The wood is really cool, but
I do find the plastic more durable - a shot of 303 protectant makes it look
pretty great.
In my view the when I compare my 50's trailer and my 70's trailer and for
that matter the new Airstreams - the quality is there. Yeah the aluminum
is not as thick and some other things here and there, on the other hand
there are things I like a lot better about the newer ones than the older ones.
Nevertheless they are all great trailers and they will outlast us if we
take care of them.
Ken Johansen
5358
59 Traveler
75 Tradewind
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Message Number: 18
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:45:11 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
I pulled off the covering and underneath was veneer paneling. It has a heavy
coating of glue, but the wood grain was very nice and would have looked
better than the covering.
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From: "schuetzen - RKBA!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:11 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:45:13 -0500, "Don Hardman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >How did covering beautiful veneer paneling with a thick plastic wall
> >covering save weight?
>
> how do you know it was beautiful veneer paneling?
> chas
>
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> WBCCI #1130 VAC S*M*A*R*T '76 Sovereign
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Message Number: 19
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:36:40 -0600
From: Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Don Hardman wrote:
>I pulled off the covering and underneath was veneer paneling. It has a heavy
>coating of glue, but the wood grain was very nice and would have looked
>better than the covering.
>
>
So, has anyone ever stripped the vinyl & glue & refinished the wood
panels???
Shari
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Message Number: 20
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:25:39 -0500
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Veneers and panelling
we have gotten way off the thread subject...
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:45:11 -0500, "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I pulled off the covering and underneath was veneer paneling. It has a heavy
>coating of glue, but the wood grain was very nice and would have looked
>better than the covering.
Damn Don, that is more work than I would have considered even when I was a
yonker as the Duke was wont to say.<G>.
I do like the idea of using Birch panelling as it CAN have gorgeous grain, is
light in color but can be stained as I have done in my living room, to match all
the birch doors in my house. Wife is always wanting to paint it white! grrr.
the day I die, is probably when she calls in the kids and hands them paint
rollers.
Oak is nice if it is flecked as in quarter sawn but that kind of veneer is quite
expensive. if we are going to replace the wood surfaces thru out the trailer,
there is virtually no limit to what can be done and is even available from
people/companies such as Constantine's. even flame grain mahogany... if you
can afford it, you can certainly buy it. in fact, you can use different veneers
for each "room" of your trailer. even the under-overhead cabinet storage units
such as I keep pillows and clothes and other light stuff in.
rambling thoughts
chas
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WBCCI #1130 VAC S*M*A*R*T '76 Sovereign
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Message Number: 21
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:03:09 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Veneers and panelling
The bottom of a couple of my hatch doors has slivers of the loose veneer
that are still attached higher up. I don't want to break them off but I do
want to fasten these slivers down so the door won't be an unsightly hazard.
How best to get glue under these slivers? In places where the slivers have
already broken off, what is the best material to patch the base plywood so
it will be smoot against the glued veneer?
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 22
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:53:05 -0600
From: Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Veneers and panelling
My Airstream wrote:
>The bottom of a couple of my hatch doors has slivers of the loose veneer
>that are still attached higher up. I don't want to break them off but I do
>want to fasten these slivers down so the door won't be an unsightly hazard.
>How best to get glue under these slivers? In places where the slivers have
>already broken off, what is the best material to patch the base plywood so
>it will be smoot against the glued veneer?
>
Bob ~
We had the same condition...we used a toothpick to gently apply a tiny
bit of wood glue under the slivers. Then clamped the area with
c-clamps and blocks of wood with waxed paper next to the veneer to
protect it from sticking to the blocks of wood.
The missing veneer areas where filled with a MinWax tinted wood putty
similar in color to the veneer. Then I put a "finish coat" of the
Howards Restoration Finish and waxxed it with Howards beeswax/orange
oil like the rest of the cabinets.
We are happy with the results...
Shari Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter - "Maxwell"
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Message Number: 23
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:56:09 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Veneers and panelling
Sounds like the perfect solution. Will let you know how I do :)
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
> My Airstream wrote:
>
> >The bottom of a couple of my hatch doors has slivers of the loose veneer
> >that are still attached higher up. I don't want to break them off but I
do
> >want to fasten these slivers down so the door won't be an unsightly
hazard.
> >How best to get glue under these slivers? In places where the slivers
have
> >already broken off, what is the best material to patch the base plywood
so
> >it will be smooth against the glued veneer?
> >
> Bob ~
>
> We had the same condition...we used a toothpick to gently apply a tiny
> bit of wood glue under the slivers. Then clamped the area with
> c-clamps and blocks of wood with waxed paper next to the veneer to
> protect it from sticking to the blocks of wood.
>
> The missing veneer areas where filled with a MinWax tinted wood putty
> similar in color to the veneer. Then I put a "finish coat" of the
> Howards Restoration Finish and waxxed it with Howards beeswax/orange
> oil like the rest of the cabinets.
>
> We are happy with the results...
>
> Shari Davis
> '64 GlobeTrotter - "Maxwell"
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Message Number: 24
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:16:00 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
After lots of searching Graybar electronics sourced and ordered the original
fuses for the old Univolt. (Buss MDX 6 1/4amp 125volt) a fuse which I have
been told has a delayed burn.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
> AMP AMP AMP!!! not watt for fuse current rating. Types MDA 6 250 volt,
> MDL 6-1/4 if 250 volt, 3AG slo blo 3136.25, or 3AB slo blo 32662.5 from
> Bussman or Littlefuse are good replacements for the MDX 6.25 amp 125
> volt fuse. Going higher in voltage rating is safe, going lower (like
> using a 32 volt fuse on 120 volt circuit) is less safe. These should be
> available in any electrical or electronic store (RS isn't either in my
> opinion) wholesale or retail. I don't see the MDX fuse line in my 2001
> Allied Electronics catalog. It might have been discontinued in favor of
> the MDL it tried to replace with a lower priced fuse. If my local
> supplier, Electronic Supply of Ames, doesn't have any on the shelf, he
> can get them. http://showcase.netins.net/web/esupply/
>
> Allied and Newark Electronics should have San Diego offices but probably
> no stock and if you walk in asking for a 6.25 WATT fuse they won't sell
> being afraid you might hurt yourself working live circuits. On of my
> catalogs says MDL are 32 volts with a 6.25 amp rating. That's not a good
> fuse for a 120 volt circuit. I see the MDL 5 in my slow blow fuse box
> are 32 volt. Take the old MDX-6.25 with you and say you want a
> replacement for a 120 volt circuit.
>
> Automotive stores will have only 32 volt fuses. Good for the battery
> side, not good for the AC side.
>
> There are some really super government and industrial surplus stores in
> the San Diego area that will likely have fuses. You'll be buying a box
> of 5 at about a buck each unless surplus.
>
> Gerald J.
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Message Number: 25
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:10:19 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
The MDX, MDL, and MDA fuses have dual elements. One will blow at 125% of
nameplate after a long period of time, e.g. there is lots of thermal
inertia to keep it from heating rapidly, the other will blow rapidly at
about 200% to keep from burning off wires. Its called a Slow blow or slo
blo for short. Its a time delay fuse to accept turn on surges typical of
magnetic components like the Univolt. Its a good selection for motors
because the rating can be selected close to the motor running current
and it won't blow for the starting current. So that way it gives better
motor protection than a standard fuse that has to be rated at a higher
current to withstand the starting current.
I think of Graybar as an electrical not electronic distributor. Used to
be they were so snooty that you had to carry a sales tax permit and an
electrician's license, maybe an IBEW membership card to get in the door.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 26
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 05:51:35 -0500
From: Greg Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
on 8/15/02 11:36 AM, Maxwell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> So, has anyone ever stripped the vinyl & glue & refinished the wood
> panels???
>
We pulled the plastic off in our 75 -- it was sagging already -- then
stripped off the glue and painted the walls. I imagine we could have stained
or used polyurethane, but we felt the off-white paint we used opened up the
space more. There's already plenty of dark plastic wood grain on the
cabinetry, plus we put in a parquet floor, so we felt that was plenty of
"wood."
We like the way it all turned out.
Greg
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Message Number: 27
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:06:43 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
It seems as though we have dueling realities here. The idea of adding
/Veneer to a thread about Univolt vs. power supplies is odd. Seems like
there was a nice little thread started earlier today called Veneers and
panelling.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:51 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
> on 8/15/02 11:36 AM, Maxwell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > So, has anyone ever stripped the vinyl & glue & refinished the wood
> > panels???
> We pulled the plastic off in our 75 -- it was sagging already -- then
> stripped off the glue and painted the walls. I imagine we could have
stained
> or used polyurethane, but we felt the off-white paint we used opened up
the
> space more. There's already plenty of dark plastic wood grain on the
> cabinetry, plus we put in a parquet floor, so we felt that was plenty of
> "wood."
>
> We like the way it all turned out.
>
> Greg
>
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Message Number: 28
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:07:49 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
Thanx Gerald for the clarification. Graybar did ask me my company name. I
remembered them from the old days when I ran Videography Studios so I gave
them that name. From that moment forward they were extrememly helpful.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:10 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies
> The MDX, MDL, and MDA fuses have dual elements. One will blow at 125% of
> nameplate after a long period of time, e.g. there is lots of thermal
> inertia to keep it from heating rapidly, the other will blow rapidly at
> about 200% to keep from burning off wires. Its called a Slow blow or slo
> blo for short. Its a time delay fuse to accept turn on surges typical of
> magnetic components like the Univolt. Its a good selection for motors
> because the rating can be selected close to the motor running current
> and it won't blow for the starting current. So that way it gives better
> motor protection than a standard fuse that has to be rated at a higher
> current to withstand the starting current.
>
> I think of Graybar as an electrical not electronic distributor. Used to
> be they were so snooty that you had to carry a sales tax permit and an
> electrician's license, maybe an IBEW membership card to get in the door.
>
> Gerald J.
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Message Number: 29
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:30:10 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trip report
Just got back from a 4500 mile trip with our 59 Traveler from Colorado to
New Jersey shore and back and thought I would share a couple of observations.
The trailer was flawless - I had a couple of concerns (besides making it)
with the trailer before I left. My biggest concern was the polish job -
how it would hold up in heat/weather/rain/humitity etc etc. It did great
when I got back had some water spots on it that will come out when I do my
annual buffing. I am amazed how well the trailer holds a polish - my once
per year going over with AP-300 keeps it looking great.
Second is we tow it with a 3/4 ton Suburban Diesel and was concerned that
it would be rough on the trailer - again no problems at all. We
encountered lots of bumpy roads also with no problem.
I'd say the biggest problem we had is my two boys who got real tired of all
the people who stop us to look at the trailer - For me its a great way to
meet people and talk about Airstreams - restoration and most of the
questions I get is about polishing.
Anyway I thought I would post this because we rarely seem to hear on this
list how these old trailers really do in everyday towing long distances.
Ken Johansen
5358
59 Traveler
75 Tradewind
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Message Number: 30
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:23:10 -0500
From: Greg Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Univolt vs modern power supplies/Veneer
on 8/15/02 5:06 PM, My Airstream at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It seems as though we have dueling realities here. The idea of adding
> /Veneer to a thread about Univolt vs. power supplies is odd. Seems like
> there was a nice little thread started earlier today called Veneers and
> panelling.
Sorry about that.
Greg
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Message Number: 31
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:40:53 -0700
From: Jack Honeycutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for about a 20 footer
At 07:49 PM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Jack,
>
>Have you looked at the VAC Classifieds? There are several listings that
>might work for you.
>
>http://www.airstream.net/classifieds/classifieds.phtml?cat=Trailers
Thanks Roger. I am heading there right now!
jack
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