Hi ED:
 
Just for the seek of responding your posting questionnaire.  Though, don't take 
too seriously any responses from me or anyone or you run the risk of finding 
yourself more disorientated than before asking any question. 

--- On Mon, 18/10/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 18 October, 2010, 16:03


  





Bill, Anthony and All,
Yes.  
One can tap many sources on the Internet for a definition of  'zen', and derive 
little understanding as to what zen is really about. 
For an insight into zen, one may better seek answers to a series of questions 
such as:
 
o   What, if any, is the worldview of zen?
I don't know.  Are there worlview zen?. 
o   What are the most common motivations and expectations that direct 
individuals toward zen practice?
No motivation, no expectations.  No search for zen.  No interest for zen.  The 
only thing is that after going in circles and just by a chance one day one 
discovers that there is: Only the here and the now lived in awareness!.  And 
automatically one becomes a zennist!. So it's zen that choose its practicioners 
and not people who choose to be a zennist. 
o   Is it the case that zazen and other zen practices, over a long period of 
time, under the guidance of an accredited Zen master, can alter the 
neurophysiology of the brain, resulting in the experience of  'enlightenment' 
or equivalently, the realization of one's  'Buddha nature'?  
To experience the Buddha Nature one doesn't need more Teacher that the 
awareness of the in and out breathing.  There is no alteration but awareness of 
what is going on inside and surroundings.  There is a natural transformation 
because of the gradual awakening through continuos awareness.
0   Is the enlightenment process something other than what is suggested 
immediately above?
There is no enlightenment
o   Can a person ever cultivate enlightenment in the frantic ambiance of the 
world of today?
As above
o   What are the recommended lifestyles, foci,  practices, 
behaviors, attitudes, etc. recommended for the pacification of one's mind and 
the realization of Buddha nature?
Use the awareness of the in and out breathing 24 hour over 24 hours even in one 
sleep and in whatever task one is doing.  Acknowledgement of sensations, 
thoughts, moviments, smells, hearing, sight....
o   Is it the case that pacification of the discursive (see below) mind is 
essential to the realization of Buddha nature, and is also one of the hallmarks 
of such a realization?
o   What would the usual feeling state of an enlightened person tend to be like?
o   How does enlightenment influence moral and altruistic behavior?
o   What are the benefits to self and others of the realization of Buddha 
nature?
o   In order to attain and maintain his/her enlightened state requires focus, 
time and effort. This being the case, is the pursuit of the enlightened state 
and its maintenace compatible with productivity and creativity in the modern 
world?
o   Could an enlightened person even function satisfactorily in the world of 
today?
o   (Please suggest other questions that might further an understanding of zen.)
--ED
 
Addendum: 
o   discursive: dianoetic + digressive
o   dianoetic:  proceeding to a conclusion by reason or argument 
o   digressive:   rambling thought or speech; tending to depart from the main 
point; not relevant, focused or precise
 
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:
>
Ed,
Zen is definable.  All terms (names) are definable.  Whether any particular 
definition accurately communicates what's intended and is useful is another 
question entirely.
Merriam-Webster Online defines zen as ": a Japanese sect of Mahayana Buddhism 
that aims at enlightenment by direct intuition through meditation".
That is a good definition of Zen Buddhism, but it is not the way I would define 
the zen I practice.
…Bill!
 
Anthony,

Is 'zen' definable at all?

If so, what is a defininition of 'zen'.

--ED





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