Hi ED:
Thank you for the trust you have put on me by  asking me the below main 
question posted yourself.  That sounds a very American question.  Here in 
Europe we never heard of these kind of questions about zen.  It sounds a 
question to make more appealing the practice of zen to people.  
I don't don't know whether the practice of zen alters the neurophysiology of 
the brain resulting in an enlightened experience or not. I can certainly tell 
you out of myself direct experience that there is a gradual transformation 
within oneself.  This transformation has nothing to do with any kind of magic 
or alteration of any kind.  According to my personal experience zen is very far 
of being an alteration of any kind, well on the contrary.  There is no 
excitment, no dualism and therefore no attachments while experiencing buddha 
nature.  Buddha nature is not an static state either.  It's something that 
comes and goes as everything else.  With the difference that there is the key 
to get one into that state at any time one wants to be there.  And the key is 
practice, practice, practice....Easy to say and not as easy to be put into 
It seems that in your question there is also a condition for that alteration in 
the brain to happen;  and that is that in order to that experience to take 
place one should be guided and trained by an acredited Zen Master. Let me tell 
you with all due respect that a real zen master won't ever guide to an student 
to any altered state.  And if you hear a Master of his/her students to say that 
then walk away because you'll be finding yourself with a fake.  Be very 
cautious with this because your way of approaching is asking to be manipulated 
by non real zen.   Do not ever trust the "magic".  Zen is not magic but tedious 
and boring to the intelectual mind.
--- On Tue, 19/10/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010, 3:45


Leaving aside any differences we might have in the method for realizing of 
Buddha Mind - and I doubt we do - what is your position with respect to the 
following statement:
o   Is it the case that zazen and other zen practices, over a long period of 
time, under the guidance of an accredited Zen master, can alter the 
neurophysiology of the brain, resulting in the experience of  'enlightenment' 
or equivalently, the realization of one's  'Buddha nature'?  
Kind regards, 
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