I have to agree with this.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM, mike brown <uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> but I think the development of scientific research into meditation helps
> completely separate Zen from the more faith based systems of religion (a
> belief in something supernatural in the abscence of evidence) and towards
> something more intrinsically human and natural.

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