I'm afraid that your questions aren't applicable to post sent as you completely 
missed out the point.  It does happens.  Look into the soul of the 
post,specially love and with a bit of luck you may understand what I meant by 
that.  Throw away all organised notions from the folders of your way.  And in 
that way you'll be able to see with the eyes of the soul,   the heart.  
--- On Fri, 22/10/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 22 October, 2010, 15:11


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez <flordel...@...> wrote:
> I don't trust of introducing these methods in the health system.
Mayka, some do, some don't.
> It's more simple the old method of "love" as the guide.
What 'love' do you have in mind?  

a strong positive emotion of regard and affection;  
any object of warm affection or devotion; 
have a great affection or liking for;  
get pleasure from; 
a deep feeling of sexual desire and attraction; 
be enamored or in love with; 
sleep together: have sexual intercourse with;  
> This is so like this that it came yesterday the them of kindness during the 
> sharing time in my sangha I went almost shocked of how complicated they made 
> it sound something that I personally I take for granted and so are carer in 
> the old fashion system of "love".
How is it that you feel 'love' but some other don't?
In you, where does this old-fashiond love emanate from? 
>From your genetics? From the mores of your childhood religion or ethnicity? 
>From possessing a loving mother?
Something else?
> When one is in no good health all one wants is human warm, love...
Zen would recommend that one be still and quiet, and just experience in the 
moment this grasping for love.
> ... instead of having someone telling one to meditate.  
> Mayka
Zen suggests that the antidote is to experience things just as they are in the 
moment, without aversion or pushing away.

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