Bill,

In Indonesia, they call it 'chia kopi' (eat coffee).

Anthony

--- On Fri, 14/1/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Bill! <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 14 January, 2011, 8:52 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Anthony,



Some call that corruption, some call it patronage.  In the USA we call it a 
commission.



...Bill!



--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:

>

> Kristy,

> 

> Another thing that impressed me is a lack of corruption in Japan. Yes? Maybe 
> they know how to conceal it. The same is in Singapore. The opposite is in 
> China and Indonesia. They say if you invest $100, $95 goes to corrupt 
> officials in Russia, but 'only' $70 in China. The remaining $30 has made 
> phenomenal progress in the country.

> 

> Anthony

> 

> --- On Fri, 14/1/11, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:

> 

> From: Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...>

> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?

> To: [email protected]

> Date: Friday, 14 January, 2011, 7:51 AM

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>       Anthony,

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> Perhaps you are correct about the Japanese, but they built a strong economy 
> post-war. They are polite-- a welcome respite from the slick rudeness of 
> American pundits and people.  What intrigues me now is the difference in 
> hospital administration here.   I'm learning a great deal.

>  

> As to the other, uncertainty is the only certainty.  Thus, welcoming it into 
> our circle at the tea table can perhaps provide a counter-balance to many of 
> the other egotistic influences in our lives.  I see it as a means wherein  
> I am comforted that the bad stuff will cease in time, and the good stuff  
> won't  last forever.  So my heart is humbled, and my gratitude expands.

>  

> Shall we take tea together? ;)

>  

> *bows*

>  

> Kristy

>  

> 

> 

> --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:

> 

> 

> From: Anthony Wu <wuasg@...>

> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?

> To: [email protected]

> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 3:52 PM

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> Kristy,

>  

> Maybe both certainty and uncertainty are expressions of ego. In my case, just 
> like Dave's, I am bothered by uncertainty associated with profit and loss. 
> But after a good zazen session, when dualistic thinking is weaker, I feel 
> more certain.

>  

> Different people experience different aspects in the land of the rising yen. 
> After all, they are hardworking. If you arrive in Europe or the USA on Friday 
> afternoon and want to talk business, the best counteroffer you obtain is an 
> invitation to a restaurant or a gold club. But in Japan, considering you have 
> come a long way, they don't mind talking business on Sunday. But that was ten 
> years ago. I hope they stay the same right now, though most people there 
> realized their prime time is over.

>  

> Anthony

> 

> 

> --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:

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> 

> From: Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...>

> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?

> To: [email protected]

> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 9:59 AM

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> Hi Anthony!:)

>  

> Very curious!  I just checked in to read here, and wanted to add a comment  
> to this..

>  

> I actually feel the opposite is true for me.. Certainty-- in my experience , 
> indicates a presense of ego.  That need to feel " right:, or "sure" that 
> such a thing, thought, or experience  is correct.

>  

> Hope all is well with you.. I'm learning about Japan-- a wonderful place to 
> be!

>  

> *bows*.. K

> 

> 

> --- On Wed, 1/12/11, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:

> 

> 

> From: Anthony Wu <wuasg@...>

> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?

> To: [email protected]

> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 5:13 PM

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> Dave,

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> Don't take uncertainty lightly. It is a difficult problem. I have uncertainty 
> too.

> 

> Though I understand it is, at least in part. caused by a strong ego, I cannot 
> overcome ego either. So lets work together.

> 

> Anthony

> 

> --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Dave P <wookielifeday@...> wrote:

> 

> 

> From: Dave P <wookielifeday@...>

> Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?

> To: [email protected]

> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 6:47 AM

> 

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>   

> 

> I understand where you're coming from, but for me the problem is 
> contamination. Since everyone has a desire to be healthy, I don't know what's 
> a healthy way of avoiding contamination and what's an unhealthy way. 

> 

> How do you deal with the uncertainty?

> 

> --- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@> wrote:

> >

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> > 

> > --- In [email protected], "Dave P" <wookielifeday@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I've been trying to keep up with the zazen, mostly with success, and 
> > > keeping up with the mindfulness, but I still have the nagging question 
> > > that troubles my OCD:

> > > 

> > > What do I do when, in order to confront my OCD, I must do something that 
> > > feels "wrong," that feels like I'm endangering myself?

> > > 

> > > I know you're not experts on OCD, but you must have had some experience 
> > > with a fear that seemed

>  completely rational. It is, of course, the uncertainty that hurts the most. 
> Any suggestions?

> > >

> > Hi Dave. When I was younger, I was troubled by obssesive checking behavior. 
> > I have found that, for me, it is a matter of just being mindful of the 
> > anxiety, as it arises, without either trying to run away from it or run 
> > toward it. And then I choose to do something else that is unrelated in 
> > order to redirect my attention. In my case, I enjoy karate, so I would go 
> > work on a kata, or form exercise. But any activity that you enjoy will do. 
> > The OCD is just a glitch in your amygdala brain center. Just be mindful of 
> > it, label it as just a glitch that is not really "you", and then redirect 
> > your attention to something else. Worked for me.

> >

>  Steve

> >

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