*chuckles*
 
You said a mouthful with that!  k
 

--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote:


From: Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 5:52 PM


  



Anthony,

Some call that corruption, some call it patronage. In the USA we call it a 
commission.

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Kristy,
> 
> Another thing that impressed me is a lack of corruption in Japan. Yes? Maybe 
> they know how to conceal it. The same is in Singapore. The opposite is in 
> China and Indonesia. They say if you invest $100, $95 goes to corrupt 
> officials in Russia, but 'only' $70 in China. The remaining $30 has made 
> phenomenal progress in the country.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Fri, 14/1/11, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 14 January, 2011, 7:51 AM
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> Anthony,
>  
> Perhaps you are correct about the Japanese, but they built a strong economy 
> post-war. They are polite-- a welcome respite from the slick rudeness of 
> American pundits and people.  What intrigues me now is the difference in 
> hospital administration here.   I'm learning a great deal.
>  
> As to the other, uncertainty is the only certainty.  Thus, welcoming it into 
> our circle at the tea table can perhaps provide a counter-balance to many of 
> the other egotistic influences in our lives.  I see it as a means wherein  
> I am comforted that the bad stuff will cease in time, and the good stuff  
> won't  last forever.  So my heart is humbled, and my gratitude expands.
>  
> Shall we take tea together? ;)
>  
> *bows*
>  
> Kristy
>  
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> 
> --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
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> From: Anthony Wu <wuasg@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 3:52 PM
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> Kristy,
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> Maybe both certainty and uncertainty are expressions of ego. In my case, just 
> like Dave's, I am bothered by uncertainty associated with profit and loss. 
> But after a good zazen session, when dualistic thinking is weaker, I feel 
> more certain.
>  
> Different people experience different aspects in the land of the rising yen. 
> After all, they are hardworking. If you arrive in Europe or the USA on Friday 
> afternoon and want to talk business, the best counteroffer you obtain is an 
> invitation to a restaurant or a gold club. But in Japan, considering you have 
> come a long way, they don't mind talking business on Sunday. But that was ten 
> years ago. I hope they stay the same right now, though most people there 
> realized their prime time is over.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:
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> From: Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 9:59 AM
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> Hi Anthony!:)
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> Very curious!  I just checked in to read here, and wanted to add a comment  
> to this..
>  
> I actually feel the opposite is true for me.. Certainty-- in my experience , 
> indicates a presense of ego.  That need to feel " right:, or "sure" that 
> such a thing, thought, or experience  is correct.
>  
> Hope all is well with you.. I'm learning about Japan-- a wonderful place to 
> be!
>  
> *bows*.. K
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/12/11, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
> 
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> From: Anthony Wu <wuasg@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 5:13 PM
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> Dave,
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> Don't take uncertainty lightly. It is a difficult problem. I have uncertainty 
> too.
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> Though I understand it is, at least in part. caused by a strong ego, I cannot 
> overcome ego either. So lets work together.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Dave P <wookielifeday@...> wrote:
> 
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> From: Dave P <wookielifeday@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 6:47 AM
> 
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> 
> I understand where you're coming from, but for me the problem is 
> contamination. Since everyone has a desire to be healthy, I don't know what's 
> a healthy way of avoiding contamination and what's an unhealthy way. 
> 
> How do you deal with the uncertainty?
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@> wrote:
> >
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> > 
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Dave P" <wookielifeday@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been trying to keep up with the zazen, mostly with success, and 
> > > keeping up with the mindfulness, but I still have the nagging question 
> > > that troubles my OCD:
> > > 
> > > What do I do when, in order to confront my OCD, I must do something that 
> > > feels "wrong," that feels like I'm endangering myself?
> > > 
> > > I know you're not experts on OCD, but you must have had some experience 
> > > with a fear that seemed
> completely rational. It is, of course, the uncertainty that hurts the most. 
> Any suggestions?
> > >
> > Hi Dave. When I was younger, I was troubled by obssesive checking behavior. 
> > I have found that, for me, it is a matter of just being mindful of the 
> > anxiety, as it arises, without either trying to run away from it or run 
> > toward it. And then I choose to do something else that is unrelated in 
> > order to redirect my attention. In my case, I enjoy karate, so I would go 
> > work on a kata, or form exercise. But any activity that you enjoy will do. 
> > The OCD is just a glitch in your amygdala brain center. Just be mindful of 
> > it, label it as just a glitch that is not really "you", and then redirect 
> > your attention to something else. Worked for me.
> >
> Steve
> >
>









      

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