Bill,
To assert that 'cause and effect' is an illusory concept is dualistic - and so is denial that the concept is illusory ??? Thanks, ED --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Anthony, > > I don't consider myself 'more advanced' than you. In fact if anything I would like to think I am 'less advanced' than you. In the case of zen practice the more you unlearn and the less advanced you are from your Original Nature the better. > > I believe the concept of 'cause-and-effect' (like all concepts) is illusory. ONE of the reasons I believe this is because the concept of cause-and-effect is completely dependent upon the belief in a sequencial, serial, uni-directional flow of time. Cause-and-effect requires at least two separate actions, one - the cause- which happens before the other - the effect. > > There is no sequencial, serial, uni-directional flow of time. There is only an ILLUSION of a sequencial, serial, unidirectional flow of time. There is only Now. The past exists only in our mind - we call this memory. The future exists only in our mind as a logical projection(based on our belief in cause-and-effect) of a concatenation of our illusion of Past and Now. > > And, to employ the also equally illusory power of logic I can state: since the flow of time itself is illusory any concept based on time must also be illusory. > > I hope this helps to retard you a little... > > ...Bill! ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
