Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Robert Naumann
AB7E said:

 b.  create a whole bunch of other bands to step through that includes
all the segments between the ham bands.


I think that this sounds like a great solution.

Would it be reasonable to have an alternative SWL selection of bands
available as a CONFIG option?

It could be as simple as BANDS: HAM / SWL

When in SWL mode, no transmit would be possible and the various SWL bands
could be band-upped or band-downed to change from one to the other.
Maybe show SWL somewhere on the display to indicate that one is in SWL mode.

A good listing of the possible bands for SWL mode is here:

http://www.dxing.com/tuning.htm

Some of them could obviously be combined to reduce the # of bands.

When finished SWLing, go back to CONFIG, BAND, and select HAM and go back
to normal.

Possible?

W5OV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Steve Ellington
How about a Take me back to the ham band macro button?
Let's pretend that we get up one morning, turn on the rig and while 
scrolling through the bands, 9.5 mHz pops up. Instead of trying to figure 
out what band this is and cranking the VFO or entering a freq. just hit PF2 
or something. I haven't bothered to study all that macro stuff but is there 
a possibility?
Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: Robert Naumann w...@w5ov.com
To: 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories


 AB7E said:

  b.  create a whole bunch of other bands to step through that includes
 all the segments between the ham bands.


 I think that this sounds like a great solution.

 Would it be reasonable to have an alternative SWL selection of bands
 available as a CONFIG option?

 It could be as simple as BANDS: HAM / SWL

 When in SWL mode, no transmit would be possible and the various SWL bands
 could be band-upped or band-downed to change from one to the other.
 Maybe show SWL somewhere on the display to indicate that one is in SWL 
 mode.

 A good listing of the possible bands for SWL mode is here:

 http://www.dxing.com/tuning.htm

 Some of them could obviously be combined to reduce the # of bands.

 When finished SWLing, go back to CONFIG, BAND, and select HAM and go 
 back
 to normal.

 Possible?

 W5OV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Ferch
W5OV wrote:

 Would it be reasonable to have an alternative SWL selection of bands
 available as a CONFIG option?
 
 It could be as simple as BANDS: HAM / SWL
 
 When in SWL mode, no transmit would be possible and the various SWL bands
 could be band-upped or band-downed to change from one to the other.
 Maybe show SWL somewhere on the display to indicate that one is in SWL mode.

This is still quite complex. I'd go for something simpler, namely a 
single SWL band that contains all of the frequencies outside the ham 
bands. The SWL band could be placed between 6 meters and 160 meters in 
the BAND switch's rotation, and would always contain the last 
non-amateur frequency used.

The existing CONFIG:BND MAP menu item could be used to enable/disable 
this feature: SWL IN would enable the new feature, SWL OUT would restore 
the existing modus operandi for those who prefer it.

73,
Rich VE3KI






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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with K3 and Windows 7

2009-11-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The OS probably reassigned the port number it was using for the USB driver.
The human has no control over what port number is used by the driver.

Any program you are running which is looking for the K3 on a serial port may
need to have the port number respecified after an OS change.

73, Guy

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Craig Taylor cstaylo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I updated my computer to Vista then W 7.  When that happened my ability to
 connect my K3 to the computer disappeared.  I downloaded the USB program for
 Vista and re-installed it as well as the K3 program with no success.  These
 all worked with XP.  Am I missing something?  Tnx for your help.  W9OD
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[Elecraft] Advice Needed!

2009-11-16 Thread Phil LaMarche
K3/100.  Using a EV 27 mike and wonderful audio reports.  Just started to
use the K3 on AM, driving a AL80B with 15 watts and 175 peak out.  Carrier
is strong, audio sounds very nice but even with the Mic gain at 60, I have
less than 50% modulation.  Any one help me bring this up closer to 100?
Thanks
 
Phil
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi Steve,

 How about a Take me back to the ham band macro button?


Yes, that's essentially what the scheme I described with the M1-M4  
buttons does.  You wouldn't have to set up all 4 buttons like I did.   
Here's how you could set it up with just one:

1. Go to the 160m band.

2. Set VFO A to your favorite frequency in that band (say, 1.9 MHz)

3. Set the mode to whatever you want.

4. Press VM then the M1 button (or M2, M3, or M4)

5. Now, any time your VFO is in the range of 0.5 to 2.9 and you press  
MV followed by M1, you'll go to 1.9 MHz and the mode will be set to  
whatever you used in step 3.

6. Now go to 80m and repeat steps 2 - 4, using the same button in step  
4.  Repeat for 60m, 40m, 30m, etc.  All 11 bands.

Once you have all 11 bands set up this way, then no matter what  
frequency you're on, anywhere in the K3's range, pressing MV,M1 will  
take you to your favorite frequency in the nearest ham band. You don't  
have to know the boundaries or anything.

If you really want a one-button solution, set things up as described  
above and then try this macro in PF2:

 SWT23;SWT21;

(which just taps the MV key followed by the M1 key.)

Hope this helps

73
--
Joe KB8AP


On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:

 How about a Take me back to the ham band macro button?
 Let's pretend that we get up one morning, turn on the rig and while
 scrolling through the bands, 9.5 mHz pops up. Instead of trying to  
 figure
 out what band this is and cranking the VFO or entering a freq. just  
 hit PF2
 or something. I haven't bothered to study all that macro stuff but  
 is there
 a possibility?
 Steve
 N4LQ
 n...@carolina.rr.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band

2009-11-16 Thread drewko
I wouldn't mind keeping BAND as a hamband-only control. However, in
this case it would be nice if the K3's band boundaries usng this
control did conform to the legal ham bands (i.e., 40m should end at
7.000, not 6.000 MHz). I suppose this would mean, for instance, when
you wander below 7.0 MHz, that BAND should remember 7.000 and no
lower. (But I guess this would be complicated by the differring band
assignments for different jurisdictions)

I would like to have a coarse tuning rate of 1.0 MHz so that any 1 MHz
band in the entire 30 MHz HF coverage could be accessed within one
revolution of the VFO knob. I think this would be slightly more
convenient than direct frequency entry.

I would also like to have some macro commands for manipulation of
frequency memory. With this capability you could program a band bank
macro that would copy a range of ten frequency slots into the 00-09
quick memory  positions. Then you could switch in a bank of ten SWL
frequency pairs, or a bank of SSB, or CW, AM Bcst, etc. Then use the
MV x quick memory to access the bands in your currently selected
bank.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:30:34 -0500, Steve N4LQ wrote:

let me make this an offical request for FW if it's possible.
Either:
1. Add an extra band for general coverage.
2. Or allow use of one of the bands for gen. cov. and fix it so it doesn't 
screw up another band. (Hard to put in words).
Steve
N4LQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

Seems too complicated.  My general coverage module is in the main RX 
and I tune with VFO A.  VFO B always has a return frequency and a 
simple A/B and then AB sorts things out.

It does it for me.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

- Original Message - 
From: Joe Planisky jp...@jeffnet.org
To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using 
Memories


 Hi Steve,

 How about a Take me back to the ham band macro button?


 Yes, that's essentially what the scheme I described with the M1-M4
 buttons does.  You wouldn't have to set up all 4 buttons like I 
 did.
 Here's how you could set it up with just one:

 1. Go to the 160m band.

 2. Set VFO A to your favorite frequency in that band (say, 1.9 
 MHz)

 3. Set the mode to whatever you want.

 4. Press VM then the M1 button (or M2, M3, or M4)

 5. Now, any time your VFO is in the range of 0.5 to 2.9 and you 
 press
 MV followed by M1, you'll go to 1.9 MHz and the mode will be set 
 to
 whatever you used in step 3.

 6. Now go to 80m and repeat steps 2 - 4, using the same button in 
 step
 4.  Repeat for 60m, 40m, 30m, etc.  All 11 bands.

 Once you have all 11 bands set up this way, then no matter what
 frequency you're on, anywhere in the K3's range, pressing MV,M1 
 will
 take you to your favorite frequency in the nearest ham band. You 
 don't
 have to know the boundaries or anything.

 If you really want a one-button solution, set things up as 
 described
 above and then try this macro in PF2:

 SWT23;SWT21;

 (which just taps the MV key followed by the M1 key.)

 Hope this helps

 73
 --
 Joe KB8AP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 The SWL band could be placed between 6 meters and 
 160 meters in the BAND switch's rotation, and would 
 always contain the last non-amateur frequency used.

Let it fall in frequency sequence.  If one used it for 
MW broadcast (US AM band) it would fall between 6 and 160 
but if it was being used for WWV at 10 MHz it would fall 
between 40 and 30 Meters.  This is the way both Icom and 
Yaesu do it. 

 The existing CONFIG:BND MAP menu item could be used to 
 enable/disable this feature: SWL IN would enable the new 
 feature, SWL OUT would restore the existing modus operandi 
 for those who prefer it.  

Alternatively, SWL OUT could simply disable storage of a 
frequency outside of the specific amateur band.  If one 
tuned to WWV on 10 MHz then used the band up/down to go 
to 20 Meters, the 30 Meter bad would be reset to 10.100 
and similarly on the other bands.  It should not be too 
difficult to reset to the bottom of the band since the 
K3 already knows the band edges to disable out of band 
transmit. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ferch
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:40 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and 
 Using Memories
 
 
 W5OV wrote:
 
  Would it be reasonable to have an alternative SWL 
 selection of bands 
  available as a CONFIG option?
  
  It could be as simple as BANDS: HAM / SWL
  
  When in SWL mode, no transmit would be possible and the various SWL 
  bands could be band-upped or band-downed to change from 
 one to the 
  other. Maybe show SWL somewhere on the display to indicate 
 that one is 
  in SWL mode.
 
 This is still quite complex. I'd go for something simpler, namely a 
 single SWL band that contains all of the frequencies 
 outside the ham 
 bands. The SWL band could be placed between 6 meters and 
 160 meters in 
 the BAND switch's rotation, and would always contain the last 
 non-amateur frequency used.
 
 The existing CONFIG:BND MAP menu item could be used to enable/disable 
 this feature: SWL IN would enable the new feature, SWL OUT 
 would restore 
 the existing modus operandi for those who prefer it.
 
 73,
 Rich VE3KI
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Steve Ellington
Mike
Not sure I follow this. Do you use dual receives? What do you mean by VFO B 
always has a return frequency?

Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail.fk
To: Reflector Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories


 G'day,

 Seems too complicated.  My general coverage module is in the main RX
 and I tune with VFO A.  VFO B always has a return frequency and a
 simple A/B and then AB sorts things out.

 It does it for me.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO

 - Original Message - 
 From: Joe Planisky jp...@jeffnet.org
 To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using
 Memories


 Hi Steve,

 How about a Take me back to the ham band macro button?


 Yes, that's essentially what the scheme I described with the M1-M4
 buttons does.  You wouldn't have to set up all 4 buttons like I
 did.
 Here's how you could set it up with just one:

 1. Go to the 160m band.

 2. Set VFO A to your favorite frequency in that band (say, 1.9
 MHz)

 3. Set the mode to whatever you want.

 4. Press VM then the M1 button (or M2, M3, or M4)

 5. Now, any time your VFO is in the range of 0.5 to 2.9 and you
 press
 MV followed by M1, you'll go to 1.9 MHz and the mode will be set
 to
 whatever you used in step 3.

 6. Now go to 80m and repeat steps 2 - 4, using the same button in
 step
 4.  Repeat for 60m, 40m, 30m, etc.  All 11 bands.

 Once you have all 11 bands set up this way, then no matter what
 frequency you're on, anywhere in the K3's range, pressing MV,M1
 will
 take you to your favorite frequency in the nearest ham band. You
 don't
 have to know the boundaries or anything.

 If you really want a one-button solution, set things up as
 described
 above and then try this macro in PF2:

 SWT23;SWT21;

 (which just taps the MV key followed by the M1 key.)

 Hope this helps

 73
 --
 Joe KB8AP

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net query

2009-11-16 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Morning,
   I would like to ask if a time change is in order.  I am thinking of moving 
both nets earlier due to the poor propagation we are experiencing. 

The current times are:

Monday z (Sunday 4 PM PST) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 6 PM PST)  7045 kHz

I am thinking of moving the 20 meter net to 2300z and the 40 meter net to 
z.  This lets me eat dinner at the same time but both nets will be done.  
It also may allow folks further east to check in before they need to get to bed 
for their Monday appointment with work or school.  

I would like some comments on the proposal.

This would be the new schedule if there is agreement:

Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz
Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PST)  7045 kHz

Thank you for your continued support and thank you to the Elecraft folks for 
letting us have our fun.
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS  

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with K3 and Windows 7

2009-11-16 Thread Roger Marrotte
That's what happened when I upgraded my computer to Windows 7.  In my case I
have two real serial ports via a Vscom PCI200L, added by me.  Before the
upgrade the ports were COM1 and COM2.  After the upgrade to Windows 7 they
were COM3 and COM4.  I was able to go to CONTROL PANEL|DEVICE
MANAGER|MULTI_PORT SERIAL ADAPTERS.  There I double clicked on Vscom
PCI200L controller, then clicked on the advanced tab and was able to rename
the ports from 3 and 4 to 1 and 2.
I've seen cases in the past where you were not able to rename the ports.  I
think it's a function of how the manufacturers implement their drivers.

Roger, W1EM  

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:44 AM
To: Craig Taylor
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problem with K3 and Windows 7

The OS probably reassigned the port number it was using for the USB driver.
The human has no control over what port number is used by the driver.

Any program you are running which is looking for the K3 on a serial port may
need to have the port number respecified after an OS change.

73, Guy

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread drewko
Wayne,

In the meantime, would it be feasible for you to add some macro
commands for manipulation of frequency memory? Then we could write
switch macros that would copy ten slots in upper frquency memory to
the 00-09 quick memory locations. 

In that way a bank of SWL freqs could be copied to 00-09 (or
similarly, a bank of SSB, CW, AM Bcst, etc). One could swap in
whatever bank one wished and use the MV x quick memories to select
the bands in one's chosen bank.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:39:26 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Steve,

I'd like to do something along these lines. It's a nontrivial change  
to the firmware, but I've added it to the list.

tnx
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Wednesday night!

2009-11-16 Thread NAQCC
NAQCC Sprint Wednesday night!

This coming Wednesday evening will be the monthly NAQCC Sprint for November, 
2009.

I will refer you to the proper URL:

http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/sprint200911.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and also a special 
prize.

This month's Special Award goes to the winner of a drawing among the following: 
The one making the highest score in each division and having the earliest date 
of their first ham radio license. You need not have been licensed continually, 
only the date of your first license counts.

This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, 
straight key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); 
but you must use QRP power levels to compete for awards.

Come join us and have a real good time!

73 de Dave VA3RJ
NAQCC #0004

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Whatever happened to direct frequency entry, either via memory or punching a
few number buttons on the keys?

I seldom touch the BAND switch.

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

2009-11-16 Thread Kenneth Moorman
I have been trying out the new AM-Sync mode by listening to WWV on its 5
frequencies and am seeing something that I wonder is a problem for my K3
(#1292) or is it being seen by others as well.  I have observed that on the
10MHz WWV frequency only, that my K3 will momentarily unlock with the
frequency jumping either up or down by as much as 200 Hz.  The frequency
quickly, less than a second, will be corrected, and all is well again.  This
occurs at what appears to be entirely random timing, from several minutes,
to as often as a few seconds.  I haven't noticed this happening on any of
the other WWV frequencies that I have observed, being all of the rest except
2.5MHz which is not open to me this morning.  I did notice this yesterday on
10MHz, but did not check the other frequencies until today. I find it
difficult to believe that WWV is having jumps in its 10MHz transmission.
Has anyone else noticed this, or do I need to be giving Elecraft help desk a
call?

Ken, NU4I

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Grant Youngman

On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 Whatever happened to direct frequency entry, either via memory or punching a
 few number buttons on the keys?
 
 I seldom touch the BAND switch.

Especially if it ends up having 40 positions on it :-)

I have been SWLing with my K3 since I got it last year.  (Even more happily now 
that we have a sync detector -- thank you Elecraft!).  Managed, somehow, to 
keep straight where I was, and when one of the band select positions needed to 
be reset to the ham band range.  What is with this seemingly compulsive need to 
take something simple, straightforward,  and not oh so terribly hard to 
understand and turn it into a multi-headed monster?  :-)

Grant/NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

2009-11-16 Thread Jim Wiley
This problem may (or may not) be caused by selective fading, causing the 
real WWV carrier to disappear for a moment, whereby the K3 then locks 
up to one of the sidebands, perhaps from the 100 Hz time data, then 
returns to the main carrier when it again is strong enough.  Of course 
it may be something else entirely, but  that is one possibility. 


Disclaimer:  This opinion is worth exactly what you had to pay for it.


- Jim, KL7CC



Kenneth Moorman wrote:
 I have been trying out the new AM-Sync mode by listening to WWV on its 5
 frequencies and am seeing something that I wonder is a problem for my K3
 (#1292) or is it being seen by others as well.  I have observed that on the
 10MHz WWV frequency only, that my K3 will momentarily unlock with the
 frequency jumping either up or down by as much as 200 Hz
   
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[Elecraft] Help Re K3 dead internal keyer

2009-11-16 Thread Kurt Wiksten
Please help!
I wanted today to use my K3 in the car, working some CW on 80m.
I am using a mobil whip antenna tuned to 3530. I have used this installation 
several times before with success.
In the morning today I tested the installation, tuned the antenna, sent some CW 
with the bencher and 
everything seemed OK
I then drove 1 hour to my operating location and put the K3 to live.
Receiver working  OK  and ant tuned very well, reached for the bencher to start 
sending cq,
but the internal keyer was silent. No CW transmission. Not a single dit or dah.
I drove home and have now tested the bencher into my Winkey and all works fine, 
but moving the manipulator to 
the paddle jack on the K3 is not producing any CW.
What has happened and why??? What am I missing?? Any ideas is most welcome!!

Best 73 de Kurt/SM6BGG


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

2009-11-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
 ... I find it
 difficult to believe that WWV is having jumps in its 10MHz transmission.
 Has anyone else noticed this, or do I need to be giving Elecraft help desk a
 call?

AM Synchronous receive is in its early stages.  We are aware of the 
behavior you describe and are improving the algorithms we are using.

Also, keep in mind that AM-S is a tool in your toolbox.  There will be 
times when regular AM envelope detection will work better, and times 
when using the SSB demodulator will provide superior results.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] K2 and DX

2009-11-16 Thread Gary D Krause
This weekend was fantastic for DX.  15 and 17 meters were open most of the day 
at my location in Wyoming.  I worked a Japanese station on ten watts with my 
K2.  He asked me to repeat my power level three times.  Apparently, he 
couldn't believe I was only running 10 watts CW.  Of course the propagation 
had a lot to do with it.  Then there is my antenna...a home-brewed, 
non-resonant, multi band vertical.  Okay, maybe the vertical didn't have a lot 
to do with it but, who cares.  I also worked the Canary Islands on the same 
ten watts.  So, I figure it is a combination of propagation and K2 mojo.  This 
weekend felt like the peak of a sunspot cycle rather than the bottom.

I also heard France and Germany.  DX isn't as easy to come by here in the 
middle of the country.  I hear hams on the eastern seaboard working DX like 
it's next door.

Gary, N7HTS



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Re: [Elecraft] Help Re K3 dead internal keyer

2009-11-16 Thread Vic K2VCO
Kurt Wiksten wrote:
 No CW
 transmission. Not a single dit or dah. I drove home and have now tested the 
 bencher
 into my Winkey and all works fine, but moving the manipulator to the paddle 
 jack on the
 K3 is not producing any CW. What has happened and why??? What am I missing?? 
 Any ideas
 is most welcome!!

Make sure that VOX is on.
-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DVR in SS

2009-11-16 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I would guess what you're really asking for is for is for the DVR to  
play a message if it's invoked when PTT is active and to keep the PTT  
active even if you then drop it, but to terminate if it's active and  
then PTT is pressed?

That way, it can call CQ, you can terminate it and fill in the gaps  
with a PTT and then complete the exchange by invoking DVR again and  
have it go on to call CQ again.

That's what I would want too.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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(106-43 BC)

On 16 Nov 2009, at 05:32, Ronald Lodewyck wrote:
 Is there any way around this feature of the K3 DVR?  I.e., can I  
 tell the K3 to NOT terminate the DVR message when the PTT, Vox, or  
 keyer are activated?

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Re: [Elecraft] Help re K3 dead internal keyer

2009-11-16 Thread Kurt Wiksten
Yes VOX was on!!

73 de Kurt/SM6BGG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

2009-11-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
This is exactly what's happening, and we're looking into a possible  
change in the way we handle it.

For now, you can leave VFO auto-tracking turned off when listening to  
WWV (tap CWT until the 'T' icon turns off). You can tune the signal in  
manually until the PLL locks (+/- 10 Hz), or tap SPOT to have it track  
the signal long enough to lock.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:

 This problem may (or may not) be caused by selective fading, causing  
 the
 real WWV carrier to disappear for a moment, whereby the K3 then  
 locks
 up to one of the sidebands, perhaps from the 100 Hz time data, then
 returns to the main carrier when it again is strong enough.  Of course
 it may be something else entirely, but  that is one possibility.


 Disclaimer:  This opinion is worth exactly what you had to pay for it.


 - Jim, KL7CC



 Kenneth Moorman wrote:
 I have been trying out the new AM-Sync mode by listening to WWV on  
 its 5
 frequencies and am seeing something that I wonder is a problem  
 for my K3
 (#1292) or is it being seen by others as well.  I have observed  
 that on the
 10MHz WWV frequency only, that my K3 will momentarily unlock with  
 the
 frequency jumping either up or down by as much as 200 Hz

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread drewko
I can also get around the bands (ham and SWBC) just fine. I suppose
the BAND switch is straight forward if you know that that it divides
the K3's entire HFcoverage range into ten bands, each one having an
amateur radio allocation somewhere within:

0.5 to 3.0 MHz
3.0 to 4.8
4.8 to 6.0
6.to 9 
9 to 13 
13 to 17 
17 to 19 
19 to 23 
23 to 26 
26 to 30

It is understandable how general coverage users can be confused. The
BAND switch is really a HAM BAND switch with extended boundaries.

73,
Drew
AF2Z




On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:11:21 -0600, you wrote:


On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 Whatever happened to direct frequency entry, either via memory or punching a
 few number buttons on the keys?
 
 I seldom touch the BAND switch.

Especially if it ends up having 40 positions on it :-)

I have been SWLing with my K3 since I got it last year.  (Even more happily 
now that we have a sync detector -- thank you Elecraft!).  Managed, somehow, 
to keep straight where I was, and when one of the band select positions needed 
to be reset to the ham band range.  What is with this seemingly compulsive 
need to take something simple, straightforward,  and not oh so terribly hard 
to understand and turn it into a multi-headed monster?  :-)

Grant/NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

2009-11-16 Thread Kenneth Moorman
Yes, I can clearly see this happening on my panadaptor lash-up using an
SDR and Rocky software from the IF output port of the K3.  Thanks for
pointing this out.  Obviously I shouldn't need to leave VFO Tracking on all
the time when receiving WWV.

Ken, NU4I

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:44 AM
To: Jim Wiley
Cc: Kenneth Moorman; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

This is exactly what's happening, and we're looking into a possible  
change in the way we handle it.

For now, you can leave VFO auto-tracking turned off when listening to  
WWV (tap CWT until the 'T' icon turns off). You can tune the signal in  
manually until the PLL locks (+/- 10 Hz), or tap SPOT to have it track  
the signal long enough to lock.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:

 This problem may (or may not) be caused by selective fading, causing  
 the
 real WWV carrier to disappear for a moment, whereby the K3 then  
 locks
 up to one of the sidebands, perhaps from the 100 Hz time data, then
 returns to the main carrier when it again is strong enough.  Of course
 it may be something else entirely, but  that is one possibility.


 Disclaimer:  This opinion is worth exactly what you had to pay for it.


 - Jim, KL7CC



 Kenneth Moorman wrote:
 I have been trying out the new AM-Sync mode by listening to WWV on  
 its 5
 frequencies and am seeing something that I wonder is a problem  
 for my K3
 (#1292) or is it being seen by others as well.  I have observed  
 that on the
 10MHz WWV frequency only, that my K3 will momentarily unlock with  
 the
 frequency jumping either up or down by as much as 200 Hz

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV

2009-11-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 I have observed that on the 10MHz WWV frequency only, that my 
 K3 will momentarily unlock with the frequency jumping either 
 up or down by as much as 200 Hz.  The frequency quickly, less 
 than a second, will be corrected, and all is well again.  
 This occurs at what appears to be entirely random timing, 
 from several minutes, to as often as a few seconds. 

The 10 MHz WWV may be the worst place to check the performance 
of the K3 Sync-AM.  I feel the 10 MHz WV transmitter has some 
apparent frequency modulation and audio distortion not present 
on any of the other frequencies (or on WWHV when I can hear it).  

On the other hand, I also detect the momentary unlock on the 
15 MHz WWV transmissions but those unlocks are associated with 
audible fading. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kenneth Moorman
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 in AM-Sync Mode Receiving WWV
 
 
 I have been trying out the new AM-Sync mode by listening to 
 WWV on its 5 frequencies and am seeing something that I 
 wonder is a problem for my K3
 (#1292) or is it being seen by others as well.  I have 
 observed that on the 10MHz WWV frequency only, that my K3 
 will momentarily unlock with the frequency jumping either 
 up or down by as much as 200 Hz.  The frequency quickly, less 
 than a second, will be corrected, and all is well again.  
 This occurs at what appears to be entirely random timing, 
 from several minutes, to as often as a few seconds.  I 
 haven't noticed this happening on any of the other WWV 
 frequencies that I have observed, being all of the rest 
 except 2.5MHz which is not open to me this morning.  I did 
 notice this yesterday on 10MHz, but did not check the other 
 frequencies until today. I find it difficult to believe that 
 WWV is having jumps in its 10MHz transmission. Has anyone 
 else noticed this, or do I need to be giving Elecraft help 
 desk a call?
 
 Ken, NU4I
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 2nd Receiver IF Out and Panadapter

2009-11-16 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Will it be possible to do that with the P3, or am I missing something?
73 de M0XDF
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slavery. -Maxim Gorky, author (1868-1936)

On 15 Nov 2009, at 19:25, it9gsf wrote:


 Hello,

 I wish to know if it is possible to have the IF Out of the 2nd  
 receiver
 connected to a Panadapter.

 The purpose is to monitor a 2nd Band with Panadapter and CW Skimmer  
 while
 operating on an other band.

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Re: [Elecraft] [MM] W2 review

2009-11-16 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Now that's a good idea. Why the diode?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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different. -Hippocrates, physician (460-c.377 BCE)

On 14 Nov 2009, at 08:31, AD6XY wrote:

 My K3 12V output powers an automotive relay (+diode) which connects  
 the 12V
 PSU to an 8 way powerpole panel. This allows me to control the power  
 to the
 LP-100A, the transverters, the KRC2 and an AT-1000pro with the K3  
 power
 switch.

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[Elecraft] [Fwd: Re: K3 2nd Receiver IF Out and Panadapter]

2009-11-16 Thread Alan Bloom
At the bottom I've copied a message that W3SZ posted to the LP-PAN email
list describing how he did it.

Alan N1AL


On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 16:50 -0500, Jack Smith wrote: 
 I've sold a couple of Z1B buffer amplifiers to K3 owners who have 
 used it to extract an isolated IF sample from the sub-receiver.
 
 Jack K8ZOA
 www.cliftonlaboratories.com
 
 
 Wayne Burdick wrote:
  it9gsf wrote:
 

  I wish to know if it is possible to have the IF Out of the 2nd  
  receiver connected to a Panadapter.
 
  The purpose is to monitor a 2nd Band with Panadapter and CW Skimmer  
  while operating on an other band.
 
  Any suggestion is very very well accepted.
  
 
  Hi Fabio,
 
  We made provisions for this on the sub receiver. Although we don't  
  offer a mod kit for this (yet), I believe some K3 owners have added a  
  buffer and sub IF out cable. Hopefully they'll respond to your  
  posting. If not, let me know and I'll search for the information.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR





 Forwarded Message 
From: w3sz w...@comcast.net
Reply-to: lp-...@yahoogroups.com
To: lp-...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: w...@comcast.net
Subject: [LP-PAN] KRX3 IF tap up and running
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:56:35 -0500

Hi Larry,

I didn't get a chance to hook up the LP-Pans yet [because the audio  
cables I need are up at my hilltop QTH], but I did install the KRX3  
and its Z1 buffer amp, and both the main K3 IF output and the KRX3  
subreceiver IF output seem to be working fine.  I ran the main IF to  
the main receiver on my Flex5000 and the KRX3 subIF to the subreceiver  
on the Flex5000.

Everything seems to be OK in terms of how I chose to get the IF from the KRX3.

I am working a long day tomorrow as well as Saturday AM, but I am  
hoping to get a chance to run up to the hilltop and pick up the audio  
cables and then get the LP Pans hooked up Saturday afternoon.

This is a brief summary of what I did with the KRX3:

I used the Z1 as buffer amp inside the KRX3.

I got +12V from a 12SA pad near to P86A.
Power and RF connections to the Z1 were done from the underside of  
the Z1.

I took IF output from KRX3 from P86A and used RG174U to take this to  
input of Z1.

I mounted Z1 on an unused FL position using a 1/2 inch standoff.

I mounted a dual female SMA connector in the REF hole at the bottom  
corner of the K3 just below the official IF out BNC.  I then used a  
right angle premade small surplus coaxial cable to take the signal to  
the KRX3 and thus the Z1.

I entered the KRX3 at the back left corner opposite to J92, because  
there was already an opening there.

I ran the coax inside the KRX3 bottom shell, beneath the main KRX3  
PCB.  I brought it up to the Z1 by running it through an unused  
hole meant for an FL standoff.

At first check, using the two subreceivers on the Flex5000 to receive  
the IF signals from the K3, the main K3 and the KRX3 subreceiver IF  
outputs seem to be equivalent.

When constructing the Z1, I used the -U [Universal] options, not  
the K2 options.  I chose to set it up for zero gain, and thus chose  
R907 to be 499 ohms, and R905 to be 4.7K, as per section 2.3.3 of the  
Z1 manual.

I attached a jpg file with the two IFs from the K3 going to the Flex  
5000.  The K3 main IF goes to the main Flex receiver and the DRX3 sub  
IF goes to the Flex sub receiver.  The signal is Radio Moscow on 40  
meters.

73,

Roger Rehr
W3SZ
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz



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Re: [Elecraft] Help Re K3 dead internal keyer

2009-11-16 Thread Monty Shultes
Are you hearing the dots and dashes in the K3 receiver's audio?  If not, 
perhaps the monitor level has been changed and there is no audio to key the 
vox circuit.

Monty  K2DLJ
.
 Kurt Wiksten wrote:
 No CW
 transmission. Not a single dit or dah. I drove home and have now tested 
 the bencher
 into my Winkey and all works fine, but moving the manipulator to the 
 paddle jack on the
 K3 is not producing any CW. What has happened and why??? What am I 
 missing?? Any ideas
 is most welcome!!

 Make sure that VOX is on.
 -- 
 73,
 Vic, K2VCO
 Fresno CA
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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[Elecraft] K3 AM Help Needed!

2009-11-16 Thread Phil LaMarche
K3/100. Using a EV 27 mike and wonderful audio reports on SSB. Just started
to

use the K3 on AM, driving a AL80B with 15 watts and 175 peak out. Carrier

is strong, audio sounds very nice but even with the Mic gain at 60, I have

less than 50% modulation.  Can any one help me bring this up closer to 100?

Thanks

Phil

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and DX

2009-11-16 Thread jeff martin
And grayline prop Saturday and Sunday, 30 and 40 meters was great too...
Worked S58N, Mike on 30M CW and 40 SSB (first call!) both on my lil K2...
Gotta love it!

Jeff
N7KRT


--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Gary D Krause n7...@bresnan.net wrote:

 From: Gary D Krause n7...@bresnan.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and DX
 To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:27 AM
 This weekend was fantastic for
 DX.  15 and 17 meters were open most of the day 
 at my location in Wyoming.  I worked a Japanese
 station on ten watts with my 
 K2.  He asked me to repeat my power level three
 times.  Apparently, he 
 couldn't believe I was only running 10 watts CW.  Of
 course the propagation 
 had a lot to do with it.  Then there is my antenna...a
 home-brewed, 
 non-resonant, multi band vertical.  Okay, maybe the
 vertical didn't have a lot 
 to do with it but, who cares.  I also worked the
 Canary Islands on the same 
 ten watts.  So, I figure it is a combination of
 propagation and K2 mojo.  This 
 weekend felt like the peak of a sunspot cycle rather than
 the bottom.
 
 I also heard France and Germany.  DX isn't as easy to
 come by here in the 
 middle of the country.  I hear hams on the eastern
 seaboard working DX like 
 it's next door.
 
 Gary, N7HTS
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM Help Needed!

2009-11-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
 ... Carrier
 is strong, audio sounds very nice but even with the Mic gain at 60, I have
 less than 50% modulation.  Can any one help me bring this up closer to 100?

Be sure you have 5 bars of ALC.  This usually results in peaks of 90% or 
better.  You can add a little CMP, but listen *critically* if you do this.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] K3 Version 3.14

2009-11-16 Thread Phil LaMarche
I find I need full compression and full Mic gain to get near 100 percent.

 Have you updated the firmware since the compressor was brought back in 

 on AM?

Does the above version include the compressor on AM?

 

Philip LaMarche 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Version 3.14

2009-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil,

I don't know the answer to your direct question, but a perusal of the 
firmware release note indicate that the AM modulation was made closer to 
100% in MCU 3.19, so you should upgrade if you are playing with AM.

73,
Don W3FPR

Phil LaMarche wrote:
 I find I need full compression and full Mic gain to get near 100 percent.

   
 Have you updated the firmware since the compressor was brought back in 
 

   
 on AM?
 

 Does the above version include the compressor on AM?

  

 Philip LaMarche 
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and DX

2009-11-16 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Gary,

I wouldn't sell your vertical short.  When I have time to get into the contests 
I've always use a vertical and find that the farther away the station is the 
easier it is (most times) to break the pileup when I use a vertical.  The low 
angle radiation advantage is noticeable.

My best, most exciting contact was with Seychelles in CQ Worldwide on 20m a few 
years ago.  I was using my KX1 at the time, running about 3 watts into a 
vertical.  He gave me 559.  I think the other trick was to re-visit 20m after 
everyone else had abandoned it for 40m in the afternoon.  He was sitting there, 
calling and calling.  I couldn't believe my luck.

I'll be in CQWW later this month with a 20m elevated vertical with four 5 ft 
radials!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread westalto


Frankly I see no problem with the way it is currently 

implemented. I find a really simple way to get back into 

the desired band segment is to make sure that the B 

vfo is set to an appropriate frequency and do an A - B 

swap. 



73, 

Doug W6JD 



BTW, as an old software engineer I can imagine the 

can of worms that implementing a GEN set of 

registers would be! 


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com 
To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:39:26 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories 

Hi Steve, 

I'd like to do something along these lines. It's a nontrivial change   
to the firmware, but I've added it to the list. 

tnx 
Wayne 
N6KR 

On Nov 15, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: 

 Memories are too complicated and too much trouble 
 My alternate suggestion was to allow the use of any particular band   
 for this 
 purpose, such as 60 meters or some other band that you never use. 

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Re: [Elecraft] [MM] W2 review

2009-11-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
When the relay solenoid's magnetic field collapses when power is removed it
will produce a sizeable reverse-polarity surge at the 12V connector. A diode
across the leads oriented to it is normally reverse polarity (anode to
ground, cathode to +) will conduct when that surge occurs and keep most of
it from reaching the K3. 

Depending upon the inductance of the solenoid that surge can be quite large,
producing many times the 12 V that was applied with rather large current for
a brief interval. It's important to choose a diode that can handle those
surges without failing. Power supply diodes are a good bet for a fairly
heavy duty relay. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Now that's a good idea. Why the diode?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--  
On 14 Nov 2009, at 08:31, AD6XY wrote:

 My K3 12V output powers an automotive relay (+diode) which connects  
 the 12V
 PSU to an 8 way powerpole panel. This allows me to control the power  
 to the
 LP-100A, the transverters, the KRC2 and an AT-1000pro with the K3  
 power
 switch.

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[Elecraft] About K2,DX and verticals

2009-11-16 Thread Hector Padron
Gary I have been using always verticals since I started as ham radio op many 
years ago,today I still use them,for dx/contesting work they are the best 
because their very low take off angle,min
Gary I have been using always verticals since I started as ham radio op many 
years ago,today I still use them,for dx/contesting work they are the best 
because their very low take off angle,mine now is a Hygain AV3 with 3 radials 
per band over my house roof about 5 feet and there is no pile up no matter how 
far or how big will be that I could not brake in the second or third call I 
do,for lower bands below 40M is not too practical because their length but from 
20 and over they work great.Only problem you will have is that they do receive 
from all over,and you will have to live with some QRM but that is not a problem 
with our K3's.
Good luck,73
 
AD4C
 

e now is a Hygain AV3 with 3 radials per band over my house roof about 5 feet 
and there is no pile up no matter how far or how big will be that I could not 
brake in the second or third call I do,for lower bands below 40M is not too 
practical because their length but from 20 and over they work great.Only 
problem you will have is that they do receive from all over,and you will have 
to live with some QRM but that is not a problem with our K3's.
Good luck,73
 
AD4C
 



For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3


  
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Re: [Elecraft] [MM] W2 review - and why the diode...

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Squire - HB9ANM

Hello David

Why the diode? Well, any relay driven by a solid-state device should have a
diode across its coil (in reverse polarity!) to short reverse voltage
spikes. Transistor are rather fast switches... and such spikes would damage
them. Never drive a relay from a transistor or IC without such a parallel
diode!
73
Richard - HB9ANM


David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 
 Now that's a good idea. Why the diode?
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
 --  
 The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body is
 different. -Hippocrates, physician (460-c.377 BCE)
 
 On 14 Nov 2009, at 08:31, AD6XY wrote:
 
 My K3 12V output powers an automotive relay (+diode) which connects  
 the 12V
 PSU to an 8 way powerpole panel. This allows me to control the power  
 to the
 LP-100A, the transverters, the KRC2 and an AT-1000pro with the K3  
 power
 switch.
 
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[Elecraft] Pan Adapter Status?

2009-11-16 Thread Ron Midwin
I just returned from a trip and was off line for a few weeks.

 

Any update on when the P3 will be available?

 

73,

 

Ron

AE6RH

S/N 1997

 

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[Elecraft] RIT knob removal?

2009-11-16 Thread Barry N1EU

Can anyone suggest the proper way to remove the RIT/XIT knob?

Thanks/73,
Barry N1EU
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Re: [Elecraft] RIT knob removal?

2009-11-16 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I believe it's a push fit, I'd suggest pulling it :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
-- 
God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest.
-Swedish proverb

On 16 Nov 2009, at 21:37, Barry N1EU wrote:


 Can anyone suggest the proper way to remove the RIT/XIT knob?

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Re: [Elecraft] RIT knob removal?

2009-11-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
If it's a K3, it's as simple friction fit with a spring to hold the knob
securely; just pull it off. Be sure to you don't lose the spring insert when
it comes off (it's a flat metal spring shaped like the end of the shaft) and
orient the knob so the flat is aligned with the shaft when replacing it. 

If it's a K2, the knob is held in place by a set screw that requires a .050
(1.3 mm) Allen wrench.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


Can anyone suggest the proper way to remove the RIT/XIT knob?

Thanks/73,
Barry N1EU
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 now @ TX3A Chesterfield

2009-11-16 Thread wb6rse1
http://tx3a.com/index.php?page=photoshot=160mReceiving

73! Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] RIT knob removal?

2009-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron,

Make that 2 setscrews on the K2 knob please.
Same on the K1.

73,
Don W3FPR

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 If it's a K2, the knob is held in place by a set screw that requires a .050
 (1.3 mm) Allen wrench.

   

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[Elecraft] K3 Beringer HA400

2009-11-16 Thread Steven Pituch
Hi All,
I tried using these two items together and am getting scratchy audio in the
headphones when I speak on USB even though the monitor is set to zero.  When
I use the rear headphones out to feed the HA400 it is really bad and loud.
When I use the front headphone jack its medium loud but still not right.  It
can be heard on my transmitted audio.

I tried using a battery to power the HA400 to isolate the ground but it has
no effect.  I did the Modification Improving the Immunity of the Rear-Panel
RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF mod, and checked to be sure that the
Front Panel Microphone Circuit mod had been done at the factory.  I tried
also using RG 174 for the audio feed.  No change.  I also removed the serial
cable and had no change.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I do need to have four
headsets on the K3 for various ham demos.

72 and thanks,
Steve, W2MY

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net query - reprise

2009-11-16 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Afternoon,
   This morning, before dawn, I sent a query message about changing the net 
times.  I have gotten many favorable replies.  However, there seems to be an 
error in my times (what else is new?)  The proposed Zulu times are what I had 
intended.  But for the 40 meter net I did not change the local time correctly.  
I want to put one hour between the start times of the two nets instead of the 
usual two hours.  I will make and eat dinner after the nets are done.  

==

The current times are:

Monday z (Sunday 4 PM PST) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 6 PM PST)  7045 kHz

This would be the new schedule if there is agreement:

Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz
Monday z (Sunday 4 PM PST)  7045 kHz

=

   A request has been made for a comprehensive listing of time zones.  Being 
lower 48 centric I will stick with the usual Eastern, Central, Mountain, and 
Pacific time zones.  The rest of you will have to fend for yourselves :)  

So3 PM PST is 4 PM MST and 5 PM CST and 6 PM EST
While 4 PM PST is 5 PM MST and 6 PM CST and 7 PM EST

   I am glad we do not have really odd time zones like they have in other 
countries.  Some of them are 45 minutes different from the one next to them.  I 
have a hard enough time here.  I think if I lived in one of those countries I 
would simply stick with Hopi time: it is always now.  One cannot beat that!
   
Further comments (or critiques) are requested.
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beringer HA400

2009-11-16 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Does it vary with power output or with Tx Test? Could it be an RFI issue?  I
was also unhappy with the audio on my HA400.

Dick
K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steven Pituch
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:13 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3  Beringer HA400

Hi All,
I tried using these two items together and am getting scratchy audio in the
headphones when I speak on USB even though the monitor is set to zero.  When
I use the rear headphones out to feed the HA400 it is really bad and loud.
When I use the front headphone jack its medium loud but still not right.  It
can be heard on my transmitted audio.

I tried using a battery to power the HA400 to isolate the ground but it has
no effect.  I did the Modification Improving the Immunity of the Rear-Panel
RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF mod, and checked to be sure that the
Front Panel Microphone Circuit mod had been done at the factory.  I tried
also using RG 174 for the audio feed.  No change.  I also removed the serial
cable and had no change.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I do need to have four
headsets on the K3 for various ham demos.

72 and thanks,
Steve, W2MY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beringer HA400

2009-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

Just an idea - have you tried it on LINE OUT?  It may be that you are 
overdriving the input of the Beringer.
The other possibility is that you have an RF in the Shack problem and 
the Beringer is reacting to the RF.  Try it when connected to a dummy 
load or in TX TEST.  If that 'fixes' the problem, you have some antenna 
work to do to keep the stray RF out of the shack.

73,
Don W3FPR

Steven Pituch wrote:
 Hi All,
 I tried using these two items together and am getting scratchy audio in the
 headphones when I speak on USB even though the monitor is set to zero.  When
 I use the rear headphones out to feed the HA400 it is really bad and loud.
 When I use the front headphone jack its medium loud but still not right.  It
 can be heard on my transmitted audio.

 I tried using a battery to power the HA400 to isolate the ground but it has
 no effect.  I did the Modification Improving the Immunity of the Rear-Panel
 RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF mod, and checked to be sure that the
 Front Panel Microphone Circuit mod had been done at the factory.  I tried
 also using RG 174 for the audio feed.  No change.  I also removed the serial
 cable and had no change.

 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I do need to have four
 headsets on the K3 for various ham demos.

 72 and thanks,
 Steve, W2MY

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Re: [Elecraft] RIT knob removal?

2009-11-16 Thread Barry N1EU
Thanks for all the correct responses - just needed to pull harder  ;-)

73,
Barry N1EU

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:
 I believe it's a push fit, I'd suggest pulling it :-)
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Re: [Elecraft] RIT knob removal?

2009-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Rule of thumb - first check for setscrews, and if none, it must pull off.
Exceptions:
Caution on knobs with rubber 'tires' - the setscrews are under the 
'tire'.  And to make matters more confusing, there is a new line of 
panel mount potentiometers with integral knobs - neat concept, but the 
'knobs' are not removable (not used on Elecraft gear - so far).

73,
Don W3FPR

Barry N1EU wrote:
 Thanks for all the correct responses - just needed to pull harder  ;-)

   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beringer HA400

2009-11-16 Thread Steven Pituch
Don and Dick,
It does not occur with TX Test  However, it is not any worse if I use my
ALS600 at 400 Watts, or I totally disconnect the amp and just use 50 Watts
out of the K3.

I think it is RF related, but only run into this problem with the HA400.  I
do run 450 Ohm ladder line into my shack up to my link coupled tuner but
just thought that it shouldn't happen to a proper design.

If I run with the front panel audio volume to zero and use the front phones
jack to the HA400 I get it bad if I plug the phones into the HA400 with the
HA400 volume set to about a 3.

I have the same problem with the line out.

If I disconnect the audio IN into the HA400.  I still get the buzz in the
phoes when I talk.  So it is RF getting into the HA400.

I wonder if some bypass caps in the HA400 might help.

Steve, W2MY





Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:33 PM
To: Steven Pituch
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3  Beringer HA400

Steve,

Just an idea - have you tried it on LINE OUT?  It may be that you are 
overdriving the input of the Beringer.
The other possibility is that you have an RF in the Shack problem and 
the Beringer is reacting to the RF.  Try it when connected to a dummy 
load or in TX TEST.  If that 'fixes' the problem, you have some antenna 
work to do to keep the stray RF out of the shack.

73,
Don W3FPR

Steven Pituch wrote:
 Hi All,
 I tried using these two items together and am getting scratchy audio in
the
 headphones when I speak on USB even though the monitor is set to zero.
When
 I use the rear headphones out to feed the HA400 it is really bad and loud.
 When I use the front headphone jack its medium loud but still not right.
It
 can be heard on my transmitted audio.

 I tried using a battery to power the HA400 to isolate the ground but it
has
 no effect.  I did the Modification Improving the Immunity of the
Rear-Panel
 RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF mod, and checked to be sure that the
 Front Panel Microphone Circuit mod had been done at the factory.  I
tried
 also using RG 174 for the audio feed.  No change.  I also removed the
serial
 cable and had no change.

 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I do need to have four
 headsets on the K3 for various ham demos.

 72 and thanks,
 Steve, W2MY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Steve Ellington
This works pretty good. Thanks to all for the ideas! I learned a lot from this.

No can of worms please.

The early bird gets the worm.
Worms that are late don't get ate.


Steve
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  - Original Message - 
  From: westa...@comcast.net 
  To: Wayne Burdick 
  Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; Steve Ellington 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories


  Frankly I see no problem with the way it is currently

  implemented. I find a really simple way to get back into

  the desired band segment is to make sure that the B

  vfo is set to an appropriate frequency and do an A - B

  swap.



  73,

  Doug W6JD



  BTW, as an old software engineer I can imagine the

  can of worms that implementing a GEN set of

  registers would be!


  - Original Message -
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
  Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:39:26 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

  Hi Steve,

  I'd like to do something along these lines. It's a nontrivial change  
  to the firmware, but I've added it to the list.

  tnx
  Wayne
  N6KR

  On Nov 15, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Steve Ellington wrote:

   Memories are too complicated and too much trouble
   My alternate suggestion was to allow the use of any particular band  
   for this
   purpose, such as 60 meters or some other band that you never use.

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[Elecraft] SPLIT Macro revisited

2009-11-16 Thread Peter Chamalian
The good folks at Elecraft provided me with a solution to my earlier posted
problem.

 

Using the original macro for split: SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB4;RT0;XT0;SB1;BW$0080

 

Works fine if you only intend to use it on cw.  But if you go to ssb, it has
two problems:

a)   it doesn't switch modes and 

b)   it sets the vfo B bandwith to 800 hz which isn't so good for ssb

 

Here's the fix .

 

a)   change the macro to add the word delay (no quotes) in between the
two SWT13 statements

b)   remove the BW$0080 statement

 

the new macro looks like this:

 

SWT13;delay;SWT13;FT1;UPB4;RT0;XT0;SB1

 

The mode now switches properly.  You will have to manually set the bandwidth
you want for vfo b in ssb and cw, but the good thing is the K3 remembers it.

 

Pete, W1RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Req for SWL band and Using Memories

2009-11-16 Thread Peter Child
A rapid-transit shortwave band select would be pretty easy with the  
existing features and firmware of the K3.set aside a group of  
memory channels, say 90-99, assign a frequency or frequency pair(A/B  
vfo)  from each shortwave band to each of the memories, label  
60M-49M-31M-25M-19M-16M-tertiary bands etc, 41M if you want a SW Rx  
mode/filter different from your 40m usual mode, add asterisks to the  
memory labels and bandhopping is yours.  Tune from there.  For more  
convenience there is the serial port and the family laptop.  Ham band  
switching stays ham band only, simple and direct.

I bandswitch by MV 1 thru 9, from 160-10 meters, with 60 meters  
selected as above and in the K3 manual.  VFO A is starting point in  
SSB segment, VFO B the CW end.  Always the same start/filter/ 
bandwidth, no surprises from the K3's understanding of band limits.  
Band UP/DOWN is very handy to look quickly at another band and return  
same freq with only two keystrokes.



Pete/K1MPM s/n1096


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[Elecraft] K3 feature request--remove monitor from line out

2009-11-16 Thread Don Sandstrom
Currently when operating RTTY using FSK (data mode FSK D), RTTY monitor 
audio is routed to line out--both left and right stereo channels. I am 
routing main and sub receiver audio to two sound cards in a SO2V 
configuration using N1MM Logger. The problem with routing monitor audio 
to line out is that RTTY transmitted from either digital interface is 
picked up by the other sound card, so that the transmission is printed 
on the other digital interface screen. As a result I get my CQ calls 
printed in between the signal I am trying to copy in SP mode on the sub 
receiver. Setting monitor to zero eliminates the problem, but I like to 
set a low-level monitor audio just to track when I'm transmitting. Could 
there be an option in LIN OUT to mute monitor audio routing to the line 
out connections? Still want to hear it in the phones, of course.

Tnx  73 - Don, W7VXS


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beringer HA400

2009-11-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

Thanks for those details.  I am almost certain Jim Brown K9YC would 
refer to this as a pin 1 problem, and that is the reason that bypass 
caps are not likely to help.
You might be able to minimize it with some work to the Beringer - look 
carefully at how the cable shields are routed.  If they connect to the 
PC board directly, this is the classic pin 1 problem - they should be 
connected in such a way as to route the energy on the outside of the 
shield to the *outside* of the enclosure rather than going first to the 
PC Board ground plane..
Perhaps you can make some mods to that equipment, perhaps it is just not 
worth it.  Many enclosures for inexpensive equipment are plastic, so 
there is no way to avoid the pin 1 problem in those cases.  Once the RF 
energy gets inside the enclosure, there is no telling in which circuits 
it might cause problems.  In the hamshack, metal enclosures for audio 
equipment is almost mandatory, and if designers would pay attention to 
the pin 1 situation, many user headaches would be solved.

Note that in days of old, connectors used to mount on the enclosure, and 
thus prevented this pin 1 problem because the RF would flow on the 
outside of the enclosure and not make it to the inside, but in more 
modern times, connectors mount directly on the PC board and may or may 
not connect from the board ground plane to the enclosure - and even if 
it is connected to the enclosure, it is likely to be on the inside - RF 
travels on surfaces due to 'skin effect', so visualize the paths - the 
inside of a metal enclosure is a different conductor than the outside at 
RF frequencies - and you will see the difficulties presented.

73,
Don W3FPR

Steven Pituch wrote:
 Don and Dick,
 It does not occur with TX Test  However, it is not any worse if I use my
 ALS600 at 400 Watts, or I totally disconnect the amp and just use 50 Watts
 out of the K3.

 I think it is RF related, but only run into this problem with the HA400.  I
 do run 450 Ohm ladder line into my shack up to my link coupled tuner but
 just thought that it shouldn't happen to a proper design.

 If I run with the front panel audio volume to zero and use the front phones
 jack to the HA400 I get it bad if I plug the phones into the HA400 with the
 HA400 volume set to about a 3.

 I have the same problem with the line out.

 If I disconnect the audio IN into the HA400.  I still get the buzz in the
 phoes when I talk.  So it is RF getting into the HA400.

 I wonder if some bypass caps in the HA400 might help.

 Steve, W2MY
   

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[Elecraft] [K3] Filter selection question

2009-11-16 Thread Wes Stewart
I received my new 400 Hz filter midway through the WAE RTTY contest and since I 
wasn't really contesting, took the time to install it.

I guess I'm a little underwhelmed so far, but to be fair I wanted to compare it 
under fire with the 2.8 KHz filter I have been using. (I expected less buckshot 
from out-of-the-passband adjacent signals with the narrower filter, although 
this may be a commentary on the lousy transmitted signals)

I continued to allow the 2.8 KHz filter to be used on data modes because if I 
decide to use the PSK modes, I might want the wider BW.

Problem is... when switching the crystal filters manually, the DSP bandwidth 
defaults to 2.8 KHz when I select the 2.8 KHz crystal filter and 400 Hz when I 
select the 400 Hz crystal filter, even though I may have previously reduced the 
Width setting to something narrower. Likewise, when in
 Data mode with the 2.8KHz filter selected, hitting NORM defaults to 400 Hz 
BW, which again selects the 400 Hz filter.

I suppose this is by design, but why can't the radio simply maintain some 
independence between the crystal and DSP filters?

Wes  N7WS



  
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Filter selection question

2009-11-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Wes,

This is by design. Selecting a filter manually via XFIL normalizes the  
DSP bandwidth to the crystal filter bandwidth. Using any other method  
(WIDTH, SHIFT, LO, HI) selects a crystal filter based on the DSP  
bandwidth (which you can see by rotating WIDTH, or just tapping it  
twice).

If you want to quickly alternate between two bandwidth settings that  
may not be the normalized values, you can use the floating presets (I/ 
II switch, part of the HI/WIDTH knob). These presets are saved per- 
mode. Typically I set preset I to 500 Hz and preset II to 100 Hz.

In addition to the floating presets, you can create two fixed  
presets in each mode. Please see NORM1/NORM2 in the owner's manual.

Regarding performance: There is absolutely no question that inserting  
the 400-Hz crystal filter will provide dramatically better results  
when large signals are present ( about S9+10). With the 2.8 kHz  
crystal filter selected, signals within the 2.8 kHz passband but  
outside a narrower DSP bandwidth could activate hardware AGC.

This reflects the K3's very crystal-filter-centric design philosophy:  
use the narrowest 1st IF roofing filter consistent with the present  
mode. Other manufacturers put less emphasis on this because they  
typically can't offer narrow 1st IF filters (3 to 6 kHz or wider, vs.  
the K3's minimum bandwidth filter, which is 200 Hz).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:

 I received my new 400 Hz filter midway through the WAE RTTY contest  
 and since I wasn't really contesting, took the time to install it.

 I guess I'm a little underwhelmed so far, but to be fair I wanted to  
 compare it under fire with the 2.8 KHz filter I have been using. (I  
 expected less buckshot from out-of-the-passband adjacent signals  
 with the narrower filter, although this may be a commentary on the  
 lousy transmitted signals)

 I continued to allow the 2.8 KHz filter to be used on data modes  
 because if I decide to use the PSK modes, I might want the wider BW.

 Problem is... when switching the crystal filters manually, the DSP  
 bandwidth defaults to 2.8 KHz when I select the 2.8 KHz crystal  
 filter and 400 Hz when I select the 400 Hz crystal filter, even  
 though I may have previously reduced the Width setting to something  
 narrower. Likewise, when in
 Data mode with the 2.8KHz filter selected, hitting NORM defaults  
 to 400 Hz BW, which again selects the 400 Hz filter.

 I suppose this is by design, but why can't the radio simply maintain  
 some independence between the crystal and DSP filters?

 Wes  N7WS




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[Elecraft] Lost aux rec

2009-11-16 Thread Telegrapher
It's been working all along but lately sometimes i notice that the Sub rec is 
slow to recover.  Audio is weak and then comes alive.  Tonight after working 
some DX, split of course, i went to 30 meters to work the 5N0och and found that 
while i get audio out of the main rx, i hear noise from the sub but no sigs.  
Like the antenna isn't connected but i know it is because it's been working and 
i've not changed anything.  TI powered down both the Sub and the whole radio a 
couple of times but have done no reset or anything.  Time to bring the FT-990 
back on line i guess.  Me thinks something has crashed.

Larry
W0OGH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beringer HA400

2009-11-16 Thread Steven Pituch
Thank you Don,
The HA400 actually has a very nice metal case, but the pots are on the board
and the plastic stems protrude out of holes.  The mod to the case seems
doable.  Also I would think some rg8 shield used as a braid bolted to the
case and going to the K3 might help.  I didn't originally do this because a
wanted something more portable.  I also need to study K9YC's papers since I
am not sure the Heil mic is wired to his standards.

Thanks, I've got some stuff to try.  It looks like a very nice affordable
accessory.
See:
http://tinyurl.com/yftvksg

73,
Steve, W2MY

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[Elecraft] T1: resistance check problems before final assembly

2009-11-16 Thread John Shadle
On p. 22 of the T1 assembly manual it states that resistance between D3 
anode and the - pad near D7 should be 100Kohms. That's good.

However, it then states that when I press S1 I should see resistance 
between 117k and 130k ohms. I have 148k ohms.

Is this a problem? If so, what should I check? I've tried switching the 
leads of my multimeter, but that doesn't appear to affect anything.

Thanks for your help.
-john W4PAH
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[Elecraft] K3 frequency accuracy versus displayed precision

2009-11-16 Thread Paul Kirley
The K3 is capable of displaying frequencies to 1 Hz.  It can 
be calibrated to somewhat less than 1 Hz against WWV (method 2).

Because I wanted to see if my K3 serial 1322 was capable of
measuring frequency to its displayed precision, I decided to 
attempt the November 11/12 ARRL Frequency Measuring Test.

I warmed up my K3 for about two hours because--even with the
optional TCXO--my K3 drifts almost 0.1 ppm per degree Centigrade
from 25C to 30C, the latter part of its warmup range this time
of year at my QTH.  (0.1 ppm is almost 1 Hz on 40 meters.)

Then I carefully used method 2 to calibrate against 10 MHz WWV, 
checking after exiting REF CAL by tuning across WWV on CW with
SPOT activated to see that the beat notes were similar on each
side of zero beat for 1 and 2 Hz off frequency.  (A lack of
similarity indicates that a small tweak of REF CAL is needed.)
Tuning past WWV's carrier on CW with SPOT enabled also provides
practice for the real thing.

When W1AW (and each of the other FMT stations) began its call-up,
I tuned its frequency to be centered in the passband with the DSP
set at 50 Hz bandwidth.  When the long dashes began, I turned on
SPOT and zero-beated against the sidetone with 1 Hz fine tuning.

After recording the result, I moved on to the other frequencies
and stations that had been specified in the ARRL FMT 
announcement.  I was able to copy and measure 4 of the 5 tests,
with one station on one frequency being inaudible at my QTH.

Result:  my K3 was within 1 Hz on all 4 readings, that is, its 
accuracy matched its displayed precision--after warmup and
careful calibration.

73, Paul W8TM

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[Elecraft] FS: K2 with Options

2009-11-16 Thread a b
This
K2, SN 53##, is in excellent working condition with these options
installed: 100W and KAF2 Audio Filter. $950 plus shipping.


  
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[Elecraft] K3 variable bandwidth roofing filters: any news?

2009-11-16 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi all,

I'm considering buying an extra pair of SSB roofing filters (either 
the 1.8 or the 2.1 kHz) for my K3. I wonder if we can except the 
variable bandwidth roofing filters to become available any time soon. 
I haven't seen any talk about it for quite some time now. Does anyone 
have some info?

73,

Frank PA4N

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 variable bandwidth roofing filters: any news?

2009-11-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
Early next year, I hope, but can't promise a date right now. Things  
got a bit busy (W2, K3 2-m module, P3, a bunch o' firmware, etc.).

tnx
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm considering buying an extra pair of SSB roofing filters (either
 the 1.8 or the 2.1 kHz) for my K3. I wonder if we can except the
 variable bandwidth roofing filters to become available any time soon.
 I haven't seen any talk about it for quite some time now. Does anyone
 have some info?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 frequency accuracy versus displayed precision

2009-11-16 Thread juergen piezo

Hi Paul

I find the same thing, I have checked the clubs K3's against a rubidium 
standard that was calibrated to a cesium standard. The K3  is spot on, the only 
limitation  being  its 1hz calibration step limit for the TCXO. I wonder what 
use the yet to be released external standard interface will be when we can only 
 adjust the TCXO  in 1 hz steps.

Its amazing  how far off frequency most stations are when you use a radio thats 
dead on, the typical average being 40 to 80hz off. The K3 sounds so good on RX 
these days, its easy  to pick stations that are off frequency by even a few HZ. 
The radios that I have found to be consistently on frequency are the IC7700 and 
IC7800.

 The SSB stations that impress me the most for being on frequency are the 
different Aeronautical control towers. These control towers have such excellent 
audio quality and they are always spot on frequency. Its a shame  that more ham 
stations cant sound so professional and clear like these aeronautical SSB 
stations. I have always wondered what brand of transmitter they use?  The 
excessive bass and ESSB audio  that we hear so often  just sounds so awful in 
comparison. Excessive bass and ESSB is just not good audio for SSB use. (I dont 
want to start a SSB debate!) but ESSB bassy audio sucks in comparison to these 
commercial SSB stations!

John


--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Paul Kirley pkir...@fuse.net wrote:

 From: Paul Kirley pkir...@fuse.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 frequency accuracy versus displayed precision
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 6:28 PM
 The K3 is capable of displaying
 frequencies to 1 Hz.  It can 
 be calibrated to somewhat less than 1 Hz against WWV
 (method 2).
 
 Because I wanted to see if my K3 serial 1322 was capable
 of
 measuring frequency to its displayed precision, I decided
 to 
 attempt the November 11/12 ARRL Frequency Measuring Test.
 
 I warmed up my K3 for about two hours because--even with
 the
 optional TCXO--my K3 drifts almost 0.1 ppm per degree
 Centigrade
 from 25C to 30C, the latter part of its warmup range this
 time
 of year at my QTH.  (0.1 ppm is almost 1 Hz on 40
 meters.)
 
 Then I carefully used method 2 to calibrate against 10 MHz
 WWV, 
 checking after exiting REF CAL by tuning across WWV on CW
 with
 SPOT activated to see that the beat notes were similar on
 each
 side of zero beat for 1 and 2 Hz off frequency.  (A
 lack of
 similarity indicates that a small tweak of REF CAL is
 needed.)
 Tuning past WWV's carrier on CW with SPOT enabled also
 provides
 practice for the real thing.
 
 When W1AW (and each of the other FMT stations) began its
 call-up,
 I tuned its frequency to be centered in the passband with
 the DSP
 set at 50 Hz bandwidth.  When the long dashes began, I
 turned on
 SPOT and zero-beated against the sidetone with 1 Hz fine
 tuning.
 
 After recording the result, I moved on to the other
 frequencies
 and stations that had been specified in the ARRL FMT 
 announcement.  I was able to copy and measure 4 of the
 5 tests,
 with one station on one frequency being inaudible at my
 QTH.
 
 Result:  my K3 was within 1 Hz on all 4 readings, that
 is, its 
 accuracy matched its displayed precision--after warmup and
 careful calibration.
 
 73, Paul W8TM
 
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