Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:05, Bill Mullen wrote: And to refresh my memory, why is it a bad idea to login as root in KDE? These days I do a lot of root changes,it's easier for me to stay for a while in KDE as root than to type my root password everytime I want to do some root job as a regular user. If allways put a small script in ~/.kde/Autostart like this: - #!/bin/bash kdesu -c konsole - This way, when I login as a regular user, I only login once as root and do everything which requires root priviledges from konsole. It has the advantage that you can open extra terminal sessions (ctrl-alt-n) without having to give your root password over and over again. Alternatively you could make it a link on you desktop. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 11:05 pm, Bill Mullen wrote: And to refresh my memory, why is it a bad idea to login as root in KDE? These days I do a lot of root changes,it's easier for me to stay for a while in KDE as root than to type my root password everytime I want to do some root job as a regular user. This has to be the weakest (and, coincidentally, the most common) excuse given for running in the GUI as root, and it's just plain wrong. If you are logged in as root, you are incapable of testing whether or not the change you made will work as you expect it to when running as a user; all you can be certain of at that point is that it works when running as root. You still need to logout, and login as a user, to complete your testing. And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Am Freitag, 3. Oktober 2003 21:46 schrieb vatbier: Sometimes I log in into KDE as root. When I, being logged in as root, use Konqueror to surf on the internet, I notice a lot of timeout errors (trying do to a query search in Mandrakesoft Bugzilla always timed out). In KCC:Network:Preferences I saw that timeout settings of 2 seconds (instead of the default 15,10,20,600 seconds) were saved into /root/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc That kioslaverc file for root came out of directory /usr/share/mdk/kde/root-interface/ . I guess that root-interface directory is full of KDE settings specifically for root. Why are those timeout settings set to 2 seconds for root in KDE, for security reasons or to hinder people at staying too long logged in as root in KDE? Are there any other of those annoying settings that prevent easy use of logging in as root into KDE? And to refresh my memory, why is it a bad idea to login as root in KDE? These days I do a lot of root changes,it's easier for me to stay for a while in KDE as root than to type my root password everytime I want to do some root job as a regular user. vatbier Some stuff to read: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/admin/index.html#br Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: setup email bounce
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:34, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 7:52 am, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:27:48PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: [...] innocents. One of the things I hate about spam assassin, and other anti viral software is that they send me an e-mail every time some idget with my e-mail address in outlook starts spawning the latest virus. I've never seen SpamAssassin sending any mail - definitely not with the default settings. But then SA isn't antivirus. Some confusion here, I think I did mean to say Spam Assasian + antivirus... sorry Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Xmixer and Gramofile
On Friday 03 October 2003 10:03 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: And then how much distortion, at the top end of the scale do you allow? Or should I say time above 50%, 90% and 99% of max volume? Rob Generally speaking, this will vary a bit with taste, but I would'nt let more than say 5 or 10 percent peak higher than 99 percent, and thats with a tune that does that up/down thing quite a bit. Normally, you'd want everything below that, think of it as the red in the LEDs on a stereo - you want everything to peak before that mark. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] setup email bounce
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 01:08, lorne wrote: On Thursday 02 October 2003 11:16 pm, rikona wrote: Hello lorne, Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:50:00 PM, you wrote: l A friend of mine has set up a tar pit type system. When he gets a l message identified as spam, he holds them open and responds one l character at a time telling them to do things to themselves and l after 15 minutes it finally lets them go. So he is l stopping/slowing the turd from sending out probably a thousand l messages each time he attaches. I thought this was very cool. How, exactly, does he do this? If this really works, and we all do it, it might help a bit. If nothing else, I'd feel better causing THEM some trouble for a change. :-) Well for starters he used BSD, but I've sent him a message asking for a resend of the message on how he did it. Sounds like he might be using the Open BSD package called spamd. Here is the man page http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=spamd James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello zephod, Would you please be so kind to fix your Reply-to setting ? As it is now it sends a reply only to you; not to the list. Thanks! On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 09:45:15 +0200, zephod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors): If allways put a small script in ~/.kde/Autostart like this: - #!/bin/bash kdesu -c konsole - This way, when I login as a regular user, I only login once as root and do everything which requires root priviledges from konsole. It has the advantage that you can open extra terminal sessions (ctrl-alt-n) without having to give your root password over and over again. Alternatively you could make it a link on you desktop. Indeed you can, but have you noticed how long kdesu (and the gnome equivalent too) remain resident even if terminated? So I do wonder if even that is wise. When I used kdesu in that fashion I always killed it afterwards. Lately I found it much cleaner to open a terminal window and use `su` only. But any often used root commands went into my /etc/sudoers and aliases for them into my ~/.bashrc. HTH Regards, =Dick Gevers= . Mandrake visibility? See headers... . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/fp2dwC/zk+cxEdMRAtikAJ4qnBppi+32gmfdp97i1GEThqsbQQCZAdvT Fhe2Hc+lk2bTAqGp7Pzh/yk= =jLn1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KNode Surprise
Is it possible I am missing something? It appears to be impossible to save filters in KNode. I set one up last night, closed down KNode - and it was gone this morning. Did it again, closed KNode, just to check, restarted and the filter was gone. Hm. regards Daryl -- We can found no scientific discipline, nor a healthy profession on the technical mistakes of the Department of Defense and IBM. -- Edsger Dijkstra Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Can't Start KDE
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Norman Zhang wrote: As for the safety of upgrading, I prefer clean installs that retain /home, which I keep on a separate partition for exactly that reason. I also back up /etc and certain subdirs of /var before the install, to be able to quickly get the new system's settings and data as I want them. Again thanks for your suggestions. I too prefer a clean install. But I have never done an upgrade by retaining /home partition or other volumes. So if I just format and reinstall 9.1/9.2 on other volumes, will the data on /home be retained? Yes, if you make /home the mount point for that partition *and* are careful to not include that partition among the ones to be formatted. I usually do not tell the installer _anything_ about my /home partition, preferring to let it set up a default /home dir on the root partition at install time; later on, I will delete its contents (but not the directory itself), and edit /etc/fstab to mount my /home partition in their place, once I have determined to my satisfaction that I'm keeping that install. That seems to me to be the safest method, even if it is a tad more effort. Either way, you may find that the ownership of the files and dirs within your /home partition do not align properly with the users and groups in your new installation; this is because such information is stored within the FS in numeric form (the UID and GID numbers, not their text names), and unless the users were all created in exactly the same order in both instances, they will not match up. How to best handle this will hinge on how many users are on the box; if just a few, the usermod and groupmod commands can adjust the UIDs and GIDs, respectively, to the correct ones (the ones that correspond to the right existing dirs). For larger setups, pasting *just* the user-specific lines from the old versions into the new of the folowing three files is probably the best way to do it: /etc/passwd /etc/shadow /etc/group Be careful not to change any UIDs or GIDs for any system users (like sys, adm, disk, mail, nobody, etc. etc.), and to limit your edits entirely to data that pertains to users of the living-and-breathing variety. :) It should go without saying, don't mess with those three files while any user other than root - including you! - is logged in; this is all stuff you get squared away *before* you return the system to production status. /home is running XFS (I'm not sure if this related), will the new kernel recognized the older XFS volume? I don't see why not, but I'm no authority on XFS and the current state of the kernel's support for it. Generally, newer kernel versions will have no trouble with older filesystem formats, but the reverse can be problematic. As the kernels in 9.1 and 9.2 are merely newer entries on the same 2.4.X tree, I would anticipate that the transition should be reasonably smooth. Also I'm running software RAID on my disks. Are there other things that I should look for? Again, I'm not a RAID guru, and have never done an upgrade-install on a system that used it, so hopefully someone else can help you on this point; I will venture a guess that as long as you can identify the array to the installer properly in all respects, you *should* be okay ... but don't consider that answer a definitive one, please. I'd suggest trying to find someone who's actually done that at least once, and ask them about it. :) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 The engineer is neither optimist nor pessimist. He sees the proverbial half-full/empty glass and says, The glass is twice as big as there is any need for it to be. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 6:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson said: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 4:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Sparenberg said: Good news may be with samba 3.x it's better aimed at XP (fingers crossed) You know, I was reading a little bit about that, and I was under the impression that most of it's new features were aimed at dealing better with NT4. Since XP has the same base as NT4, that's reasonable. I'm not a real m$ kernel guru, but I believe that they've made quite a few changes since nt4. Looking back on the win2k mcse classes, there was quite a bit of difference even in those systems. Working experience with xp now seems quite a bit different than 2k (of course that's end user stuff). I'm sure they have, but AFAIK that is developmental, not new. I thought that was quite odd, but I may have just misread; it was really more of a quick glance. Similarly with Win4lin; why do they keep putting out new versions that only work with 9x versions of Windoze? That system is 5 years old now. The latest issue is able to support W2K upwards - but it's a first stage, so I don't know how good it is yet. I'm sure that by the next release it will be good. And then of course many of us do actually prefer to stay with win98 - particularly since it is 100% stable under win4lin. Just browsing their webpage, they don't seem to have support for anything buy 95,98 or ME. Are you talking about one in beta? I may have to grovel on this one. I was speaking from memory, but I can't find the newletter I was thinking of - I must have deleted it. I know they were talking about DirectX improvements, but I could be totally wrong about W2K and XP. Sorry. As I said, win98SE is 100% stable for me under win4lin, but I recognise that that is no help if you need to read ntfs directories, or own a copy of w2k but not win98. Sorry if I misled you. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Audigy 2 Support
Has anyone had any success getting the Audigy 2 sound card to work on MDK 9.1? I have one in a new Dell 8300 and it doesn't work at all. I have Goggled for answers and it looks like this card is not supported by Linux. Thanks. -- J. Kelley Jernigan - Registered Linux User # 282143 Mandrake 9.1 http://www.hovercraftersresource.com - If what you believe does not reflect truth, then what you feel does not reflect reality. Neil Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Bug in php-rrdtool-1.0.40-2mdk in rrd_fetch function
Hi Folks, by trying to improve my system stats etc. I found out that the rrd_tool module for php4 still had the old Bug I sent a patch to Tobias Oetiker by that time. Actually - the rrd_fetch function returns the data for one Datasource only, instead of cycling through all existing datasources - thus giving back only one e.g. 288 Data-entries where 576 would be required. I just recompiled the php4_rrdtool extension of rrdtool-1.0.45 and it is fixed there. Maybe u folks from redhat could bring out a corrected version for Mdk-9.1 ... NOTE - the 9.2 RPM does not compile on 9.1 That's why I ask u folks. Cheers Joerg -- I've run DOOM more in the last few days than I have the last few months. I just love debugging ;-) (Linus Torvalds) | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | Web: http://www.solsys.org: Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP Fingerprint: AF0F FB75 997B 025F 4538 5AD6 9888 5D97 170B 8B7A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bug in php-rrdtool-1.0.40-2mdk in rrd_fetch function
*lol* It's You folks from mandrake of course. A Year back - I had patched a RedHat RPM to include the fix. But - since about 5 months - I do use Mdk-9.1 for my little Home-Server ;o) BTW - the stats I need the patch for can be viewed here: http://www.solsys.org/system.php?action=ext_Det The system-Stats can be viewed here: http://www.solsys.org/system.php Cheers Joerg On Saturday 04 October 2003 14:35, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Folks, by trying to improve my system stats etc. I found out that the rrd_tool module for php4 still had the old Bug I sent a patch to Tobias Oetiker by that time. Actually - the rrd_fetch function returns the data for one Datasource only, instead of cycling through all existing datasources - thus giving back only one e.g. 288 Data-entries where 576 would be required. I just recompiled the php4_rrdtool extension of rrdtool-1.0.45 and it is fixed there. Maybe u folks from redhat could bring out a corrected version for Mdk-9.1 ... NOTE - the 9.2 RPM does not compile on 9.1 That's why I ask u folks. Cheers Joerg -- Would you people stop playing these stupid games?!?!? | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alt1)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alt2)| | Web: http://www.solsys.org: Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP Fingerprint: AF0F FB75 997B 025F 4538 5AD6 9888 5D97 170B 8B7A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD] - running at last!
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 3:52 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: before running Audacity and/or Rezound do the following $killall artsd That might get you going. Here's hoping kernel 2.6 and its built-in ALSA support comes and wipes the old OSS Sound way of doing things off the planet for good :) For some reason trying to kill aRts that way didn't work. I went to the link given earlier (sorry, can't remember who gave it to me) http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4543140457.html and started to follow the instructions. The key to the whole thing is to get a kickarts applet onto the kicker. Once that is done you can stop and restart aRts at will. With aRts disabled, Audacity runs. So far I have only tried it on a burst of speech from the radio, but the resulting sound was quite good. The bad news is that neither Jackstart nor ardour will run on the stock 9.1 kernel. Attempting to run ardour caused a spontaneous reboot. Shoudl ardour become necessary (and at this point I don't even know what it is) I will have to boot to the MM kernel, which is as bad as having to boot to windows. Still, it looks as though after my holiday/vacation I can start working on this. Thanks to all that have helped. And yes, I will write a TWiki entry g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 2:10 pm, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: Has anyone had any success getting the Audigy 2 sound card to work on MDK 9.1? I have one in a new Dell 8300 and it doesn't work at all. I have Goggled for answers and it looks like this card is not supported by Linux. Thanks. Mine is the original audigy, but I quote from a mail I received this morning: I have Audigy 2 installed with MDK9.1-25 kernel, and the audigy module works great. I'm using OSS. so it must just be a configuration issue. First, have you checked that none of the available mixers are muted? Aumix is the usual culprit. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:30:21 up 13 days, 22:51, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.21, 0.53 Shick's Law: There is no problem a good miracle can't solve. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fugwG11CaRuZZSIRAtvAAJ9MBNP6xUC+PSUtnxnduNuzJSY4JQCfZ6gm qzf0CJIEBUoYQK4sw2p2EeU= =8jYI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie I don't know how the menu item, FM Super User mode, will be resolved but you can always press alt-F2 and type in kdesu konqueror to run konqueror as root, after supplying the root password, or kdesu anything to run anything as root. At least, kdebase must be installed as kdesu is part of that. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 4:32 pm, Charlie M. wrote: October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie I hope not - it's a strong argument that it isn't necessary to log in as root. CLI puts off many newbies. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:32:52 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:30:21 up 13 days, 22:51, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.21, 0.53 Shick's Law: There is no problem a good miracle can't solve. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fugwG11CaRuZZSIRAtvAAJ9MBNP6xUC+PSUtnxnduNuzJSY4JQCfZ6gm qzf0CJIEBUoYQK4sw2p2EeU= =8jYI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Seems a lot of stuff disappeared from 9.2 default desktop. If this is another good for the simple user kind of thing, should I be insulted? I thought I only felt simple. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 4:46 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie I don't know how the menu item, FM Super User mode, will be resolved but you can always press alt-F2 and type in kdesu konqueror to run konqueror as root, after supplying the root password, or kdesu anything to run anything as root. At least, kdebase must be installed as kdesu is part of that. Rolf That I didn't know. Thanks, Rolf Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 08:59, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:32:52 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:30:21 up 13 days, 22:51, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.21, 0.53 Shick's Law: There is no problem a good miracle can't solve. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fugwG11CaRuZZSIRAtvAAJ9MBNP6xUC+PSUtnxnduNuzJSY4JQCfZ6gm qzf0CJIEBUoYQK4sw2p2EeU= =8jYI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Seems a lot of stuff disappeared from 9.2 default desktop. If this is another good for the simple user kind of thing, should I be insulted? I thought I only felt simple. Lee Lee what really happened was that kde has been broken apart (ala debian SuSE and everyone but RH) So that individual applications in KDE can now be upgraded instead of having to download the entire KDE lump. (56k users will find this to be a big help.) Some of the things that used to be in kdebase, (Like Konsole) are no longer default. This point as to what is or isn't default is still being debated. If you are missing something do urpmf [application name] to find it's new package James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 09:46 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: [..] I don't know how the menu item, FM Super User mode, will be resolved but you can always press alt-F2 and type in kdesu konqueror to run konqueror as root, after supplying the root password, or kdesu anything to run anything as root. At least, kdebase must be installed as kdesu is part of that. Rolf Thanks for stating the blatantly obvious when the merely obvious would suffice. (-: Rolf, I know how to work around it, you know how to do it, what does Mr./Mrs./Ms. J. Sixpack do when s/he's told to use that utility and it ain't there? You can explain until you're blue but the average user is just going to see it as confirmation of; and detractors will use it as more fuel for, the Linux is too hard! FUD fire. In my opinion it's just another example of my stated objection to developers having *anything* to do with deciding user interfaces or GUI functionality. The so called ergonomics of a distribution. The distance between the species is far too great. A desktop manager is the ultimate in GUI functionality and 99% of what a newbie will base their opinions of a distribution on are rooted in that. Since in this case it is lacking a few expected functions that opinion will probably be rather low for 9.2. Uber-geek workarounds, or even regular geek workarounds, are not the correct direction to push the desktop managers. _Any_ desktop manager. It's a sad state of affairs IMHO. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:28:53 up 13 days, 23:49, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.20, 0.35 The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. - -- Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fvn5G11CaRuZZSIRAth/AKCSPUrxx1T8OHy2a4LSS5b24WOImwCeOPnD OzXka2lM5R89yWz2Tf3kenc= =dPaJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 07:10 am, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: Has anyone had any success getting the Audigy 2 sound card to work on MDK 9.1? I have one in a new Dell 8300 and it doesn't work at all. I have Goggled for answers and it looks like this card is not supported by Linux. Thanks. Call Dell and scream for a replacement for the card. The version OEM-ed for Dell has been crippled and won't use the audigy2 drivers. Seen it before and had to yell until the customer was sent a replacement. I don't remember the details, but I know a Dell supplied OEM Audigy2 ain't the same as an off the shelf version. Ah, here we are. Copied from a bugzilla report that confirms what I thought I remembered g: The problem with Dell's Sound Blaster Live is that their new computers ship with sound cards that have the DSP chip crippled so that all sound processing functions take place in software rather than hardware (like a WinModem). Creative and Dell have no solution to this, but I got Dell to send me a replacement Sound Blaster Audigy 2. Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:53:51 up 14 days, 14 min, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.09 Hey, wait a minute!! I want a divorce!! ... you're not Clint Eastwood!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fvxdG11CaRuZZSIRAmgSAJ9ydWWxln/pmENvWiMBVas+ycmcSQCgldb8 jNs5XOcTn3ncF+herV5qFag= =bGeN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.1: partition device busy on shutdown
Have had 9.1 installed on several machines for months working fine. One had a harddrive problem this last week, so just got a new drive and reinstalled 9.1 then did most updates. When I tried to shutdown the machine, however, umount failed for the partition I have /home on. Get a device busy message. Went into console as root right after boot and could umount and remount for a couple of minutes, but then suddenly got device busy message (without ever having done anything that should have involved /home). Root partition and other (/backup) partitions umount fine at shutdown. But /home partition will not--ever. lsof from console lists nothing. Any ideas? Never encountered this problem before with any 9.1 installation. Happens with both original 9.1 kernel (enterprise) and the latest updates one (enterprise version). Thanks, Norm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Saturday 04 October 2003 12:14, Dick Gevers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello zephod, Would you please be so kind to fix your Reply-to setting ? As it is now it sends a reply only to you; not to the list. Thanks! If you can point me where I can do this in kmail 1.5.3, I will be glad to do so. It seems that there is only a global Reply-to setting per identity, but not one for a specific mailing list. Maybe I have overlooked it? Indeed you can, but have you noticed how long kdesu (and the gnome equivalent too) remain resident even if terminated? So I do wonder if even that is wise. I have. But I don't see the difficulty in that. When I used kdesu in that fashion I always killed it afterwards. Lately I found it much cleaner to open a terminal window and use `su` only. But any often used root commands went into my /etc/sudoers and aliases for them into my ~/.bashrc. depending on what commands you put in sudoers, that might be a security problem as well. But still better than running the KDE as root offcourse ;) HTH Regards, =Dick Gevers= . Mandrake visibility? See headers... . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/fp2dwC/zk+cxEdMRAtikAJ4qnBppi+32gmfdp97i1GEThqsbQQCZAdvT Fhe2Hc+lk2bTAqGp7Pzh/yk= =jLn1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1: partition device busy on shutdown
Have had 9.1 installed on several machines for months working fine. One had a harddrive problem this last week, so just got a new drive and reinstalled 9.1 then did most updates. When I tried to shutdown the machine, however, umount failed for the partition I have /home on. Get a device busy message. Went into console as root right after boot and could umount and remount for a couple of minutes, but then suddenly got device busy message (without ever having done anything that should have involved /home). Root partition and other (/backup) partitions umount fine at shutdown. But /home partition will not--ever. lsof from console lists nothing. Any ideas? Never encountered this problem before with any 9.1 installation. Happens with both original 9.1 kernel (enterprise) and the latest updates one (enterprise version). Check that you don't have any automount processes running, NFS server is down, and no other open files. You can also try remounting /home as ro then fsck'ing the device. E.g.: mount -o remount,ro /mnt/home -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
From: Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 07:10 am, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: Has anyone had any success getting the Audigy 2 sound card to work on MDK 9.1? I have one in a new Dell 8300 and it doesn't work at all. I have Goggled for answers and it looks like this card is not supported by Linux. Thanks. Call Dell and scream for a replacement for the card. The version OEM-ed for Dell has been crippled and won't use the audigy2 drivers. Seen it before and had to yell until the customer was sent a replacement. I don't remember the details, but I know a Dell supplied OEM Audigy2 ain't the same as an off the shelf version. Ah, here we are. Copied from a bugzilla report that confirms what I thought I remembered g: The problem with Dell's Sound Blaster Live is that their new computers ship with sound cards that have the DSP chip crippled so that all sound processing functions take place in software rather than hardware (like a WinModem). Creative and Dell have no solution to this, but I got Dell to send me a replacement Sound Blaster Audigy 2. Would someone with one of theese Dell systems with cripled audigy2 dsp send me the output of lspcidrake -v... If we can't get it to work normally, maybe we can work around the problem with it... Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 09:46 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: [..] I don't know how the menu item, FM Super User mode, will be resolved but you can always press alt-F2 and type in kdesu konqueror to run konqueror as root, after supplying the root password, or kdesu anything to run anything as root. At least, kdebase must be installed as kdesu is part of that. Rolf Thanks for stating the blatantly obvious when the merely obvious would suffice. (-: Rolf, I know how to work around it, you know how to do it, what does Mr./Mrs./Ms. J. Sixpack do when s/he's told to use that utility and it ain't there? You can explain until you're blue but the average user is just going to see it as confirmation of; and detractors will use it as more fuel for, the Linux is too hard! FUD fire. In my opinion it's just another example of my stated objection to developers having *anything* to do with deciding user interfaces or GUI functionality. The so called ergonomics of a distribution. The distance between the species is far too great. A desktop manager is the ultimate in GUI functionality and 99% of what a newbie will base their opinions of a distribution on are rooted in that. Since in this case it is lacking a few expected functions that opinion will probably be rather low for 9.2. Uber-geek workarounds, or even regular geek workarounds, are not the correct direction to push the desktop managers. _Any_ desktop manager. It's a sad state of affairs IMHO. Charlie Well, that's not exactly how I see it. Having never used the menu item for File Manager Super User mode, I can see where someone else might have more of an attachment to it. There are other expected behaviors, such as being able to decline installation of a bootloader at install when I simply want to add an entry to an existing bootloader, that have caused me more personal discomfiture when they have disappeared. However, my overall perception is that virtually all the software in the distro is in a fairly rapid state of flux, as there is plenty of room for improvement, and further demands are placed on developers by the evolution of hardware. Having tried gentoo, debian, slackware, suse, et al, I appreciate the work that Mandrake have done to produce and maintain this, relatively, easy to use distribution out of thousands of disparate and changing softwares. One of the strengths of Linux is the variety of choices it provides. Considering that change is inevitable in such an environment, it is better to concentrate on the power and flexibility of choice than get stuck on how things used to work. For someone who doesn't even know where the menu is, for example, it is almost easier to describe how to use alt-F2 than how to get to Applications File Tools File Manager-Super User Mode. The changes can cause some stress but I don't think that is, necessarily, the developers' fault. A user's expectations have much to do with stress and, as long as the functionality is attainable, education about choices and sensible expectations can go a lot further to reduce stress than trying to change what are, in many cases, pragmatic consequences of development. Like I said, different procedures are going to have a different importance to different people. It's easy to be cool about something not being there anymore when you have never used it and I don't know for a fact that su mode won't be there when 9.2 comes out. Maybe it was just an oversight. There are probably not sufficient personnel, at present, for there to be a separate ergonomics department ( http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=105661890523522w=2 ) so I think they are doing the best they can with what they have. At any rate, changes are going to happen, some way of doing something or another will disappear for someone or another, and it's best to be flexible. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 12:16 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote: [..] Would someone with one of theese Dell systems with cripled audigy2 dsp send me the output of lspcidrake -v... If we can't get it to work normally, maybe we can work around the problem with it... Regards Thomas If nobody has posted the required information by Tuesday when I'm scheduled to go back there I'll post it Thomas. Is there anything else that might be of value to you? I just hope you don't have to wait that long. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 12:28:54 up 14 days, 1:50, 1 user, load average: 0.39, 0.13, 0.03 Tex SEX! The HOME of WHEELS! The dripping of COFFEE!! Take me to Minnesota but don't EMBARRASS me!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fxIhG11CaRuZZSIRAvOfAKCsDSTGpABK4xfVXjwh26qyX11RZQCgqubD EQBTfKeHPgPUrUCl+s9bNR8= =oCfr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] web mail server
i'm planning to do a mail user management (like to add and remove mail users, but only mail users) via the web using apache. I know that postfix can use mysql (and mysql records can be added via web using php) to authenticate it's users but i don't have any ideas on how to create new users for imap (imap-2000a) access. Any ideas? Regards, Leonardo S
[expert] web mail server
i'm planning to do a mail user management (like to add and remove mail users, but only mail users) via the web using apache. I know that postfix can use mysql (and mysql records can be added via web using php) to authenticate it's users but i don't have any ideas on how to create new users for imap (imap-2000a) access. Any ideas? Regards, Leonardo Sá Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [..] October 4, 2003 12:20 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Well, that's not exactly how I see it. Having never used the menu item for File Manager Super User mode, I can see where someone else might have more of an attachment to it. There are other expected behaviors, such as being able to decline installation of a bootloader at install when I simply want to add an entry to an existing bootloader, that have caused me more personal discomfiture when they have disappeared. It's just a tool Rolf. I know that. I can work around it and even add a clickable icon on the person's desktop with a name that will make sense to them. That usually becomes strike one for me and Mandrake Linux though. I modified their system, mild panic and moderate paranoia starts there. rant mode I understand your position, hell I can understand why things are done the way they are most of the time. I'll even agree with the complaint about the behaviour of the bootloader since it's bitten me on the ass a few times. But Has anybody officially decided what the Mandrake Linux focus going forward will be? Is it Corporate desktop, home user desktop, server, or something else? That is basically a rhetorical question since it really doesn't matter. For _any_ user coming from the Windows world their entire experience has been point'n'click. That's about all Windows System Administrators have ever learned in most cases. I've read posts in various fora that sysadmins need application/utility X because it's the way they learned to do their jobs in MS network environments. Users shouldn't be able to xxx or yyy because the sysadmin doesn't want them to zzz. If it's a a privately owned box with one user (the owner) who the hell says that individual shouldn't be allowed to break the damned thing any way and all they like? Fine and who the devil cares? Anyone calling themselves a system administrator should be able to do anything they need with whatever tools are available because, to my mind, that's what the job *is.* The problem is some of us find the only way to convince users to try Mandrake Linux, thereby possibly exposing their employers to the distribution, is to help them install it and use it at home. They can lobby for the switch at work if they like the experience. I don't deal with corporations or government. One on one, myself and users. For most of these Windows refugees you've lost as soon as you tell them to open a terminal, or open the run dialogue. It's suddenly too hard and they don't hear a damned thing you say after that. /rant mode However, my overall perception is that virtually all the software in the distro is in a fairly rapid state of flux, as there is plenty of room for improvement, and further demands are placed on developers by the evolution of hardware. Having tried gentoo, debian, slackware, suse, et al, I appreciate the work that Mandrake have done to produce and maintain this, relatively, easy to use distribution out of thousands of disparate and changing softwares. I'm not belittling anything that's been done by Mandrake or the developers and volunteers. I'm saying that my hobby is convincing people to try something that most of the time scares the hell out of them; and having their fears realized before they get to the exploration of the system structure defeats the purpose far too often. I have nearly always been able to get someone to click an icon and type the administrator password to learn what the directory groupings and names look like/are. If I start talking anything more geekish than that these people go TILT. Then they run. One of the strengths of Linux is the variety of choices it provides. Considering that change is inevitable in such an environment, it is better to concentrate on the power and flexibility of choice than get stuck on how things used to work. For someone who doesn't even know where the menu is, for example, it is almost easier to describe how to use alt-F2 than how to get to Applications File Tools File Manager-Super User Mode. I don't entirely disagree but see above. What I posted isn't complaints, it's observations from bitter experience. The changes can cause some stress but I don't think that is, necessarily, the developers' fault. A user's expectations have much to do with stress and, as long as the functionality is attainable, education about choices and sensible expectations can go a lot further to reduce stress than trying to change what are, in many cases, pragmatic consequences of development. But you'll never educate most people because they just want a tool to use. They don't want to be educated, and stop listening as soon as anything of that nature enters the conversation. Like I said, different procedures are going to have a different importance to different people. It's easy to be cool about something not being there anymore when you have
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Charlie M. schrieb am Sat, 04 Oct 2003 13:16:01 -0600: If I start talking anything more geekish than that these people go TILT. Then they run. But you'll never educate most people because they just want a tool to use. They don't want to be educated, and stop listening as soon as anything of that nature enters the conversation. It's the old difference between the 2 guys who had to study a certain physical law in order to solve a problem. 1. guy goes to the library and asks for an english translation of the original book written in German. There is none. He asks a German friend to translate the chapters about the part which is interesting for him. He receives the translation, reads the necessary parts and goes back to his original task and solves the problem. 2. guy goes to language school, learns German and then reads the entire book in the original version. Then he goes back to his task. Lets not look at the efficiency or the necessary timespan for the second guy to learn the language. They both have the same task at hand but totally different interests. Next week I'm going to meet a couple of young people. One guy asked me where he could get some info about Linux. He and his friends are fed up with some M$ issues and would like to try something else. So, as they all are living in the same town as I do, we are going to meet next week and I'll give them a short overview. I'll take my laptop with me and will show some flashy things (Have to install xmms and mplayer until then!). A pity I can't have the new 9.2 by then. They mentioned Red Hat and SuSE as the distributions they heard of. I'll show them Mandrake. Let's see what comes out of it. And if your theory about the Geek! crying users at the sight of a CLI is really true. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:29 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Charlie M. schrieb am Sat, 04 Oct 2003 13:16:01 -0600: If I start talking anything more geekish than that these people go TILT. Then they run. But you'll never educate most people because they just want a tool to use. They don't want to be educated, and stop listening as soon as anything of that nature enters the conversation. It's the old difference between the 2 guys who had to study a certain physical law in order to solve a problem. 1. guy goes to the library and asks for an english translation of the original book written in German. There is none. He asks a German friend to translate the chapters about the part which is interesting for him. He receives the translation, reads the necessary parts and goes back to his original task and solves the problem. 2. guy goes to language school, learns German and then reads the entire book in the original version. Then he goes back to his task. Lets not look at the efficiency or the necessary timespan for the second guy to learn the language. They both have the same task at hand but totally different interests. Next week I'm going to meet a couple of young people. One guy asked me where he could get some info about Linux. He and his friends are fed up with some M$ issues and would like to try something else. So, as they all are living in the same town as I do, we are going to meet next week and I'll give them a short overview. I'll take my laptop with me and will show some flashy things (Have to install xmms and mplayer until then!). A pity I can't have the new 9.2 by then. They mentioned Red Hat and SuSE as the distributions they heard of. I'll show them Mandrake. Let's see what comes out of it. And if your theory about the Geek! crying users at the sight of a CLI is really true. wobo I hope they don't run. I'll be modifying my presentations and methods to try and overcome some of the natural resistance I expect to encounter. I recognize that the onus is on me to make things appear as easy as they actually are, and I've already gone back to the pattern that forces the potential refugee to ask more than once before I'll do anything more than provide links to information. If they don't have even that much perseverance they probably would never switch anyway. Unfortunately it seems there's a lot of Linux is cool so get somebody to show going on around here. Weeding out the dilettantes like me and the people that are actually willing to invest some time and skull sweat is becoming a problem. (-: As long as I'm not causing people to run screaming into the night, I guess I'm not doing the Mandrake cause any harm. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 14:37:43 up 14 days, 3:58, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.08 The six great gifts of an Irish girl are beauty, soft voice, sweet speech, wisdom, needlework, and chastity. -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1907 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fzGxG11CaRuZZSIRAtCFAKCEjWr5UTM1R1XxsUVM/OEUOrlG8ACgjDoV 5Oy0NNVinMrQUVrTKL/H3Iw= =5jX7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
1st thing I did was to make sure nothing was muted. I've tried OSS and Alsa. No go on both. On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 10:52, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 2:10 pm, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: Has anyone had any success getting the Audigy 2 sound card to work on MDK 9.1? I have one in a new Dell 8300 and it doesn't work at all. I have Goggled for answers and it looks like this card is not supported by Linux. Thanks. Mine is the original audigy, but I quote from a mail I received this morning: I have Audigy 2 installed with MDK9.1-25 kernel, and the audigy module works great. I'm using OSS. so it must just be a configuration issue. First, have you checked that none of the available mixers are muted? Aumix is the usual culprit. Anne -- J. Kelley Jernigan - Registered Linux User # 282143 Mandrake 9.1 http://www.hovercraftersresource.com - If what you believe does not reflect truth, then what you feel does not reflect reality. Neil Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
How do you think Dell will react considering the card works perfectly well with XP Pro? Also, where did the Audigy 2 drivers for linux come from? I've googled and tried Cooker and I cannot find any for Linux. On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 12:59, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 07:10 am, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: Has anyone had any success getting the Audigy 2 sound card to work on MDK 9.1? I have one in a new Dell 8300 and it doesn't work at all. I have Goggled for answers and it looks like this card is not supported by Linux. Thanks. Call Dell and scream for a replacement for the card. The version OEM-ed for Dell has been crippled and won't use the audigy2 drivers. Seen it before and had to yell until the customer was sent a replacement. I don't remember the details, but I know a Dell supplied OEM Audigy2 ain't the same as an off the shelf version. Ah, here we are. Copied from a bugzilla report that confirms what I thought I remembered g: The problem with Dell's Sound Blaster Live is that their new computers ship with sound cards that have the DSP chip crippled so that all sound processing functions take place in software rather than hardware (like a WinModem). Creative and Dell have no solution to this, but I got Dell to send me a replacement Sound Blaster Audigy 2. Good luck; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:53:51 up 14 days, 14 min, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.09 Hey, wait a minute!! I want a divorce!! ... you're not Clint Eastwood!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fvxdG11CaRuZZSIRAmgSAJ9ydWWxln/pmENvWiMBVas+ycmcSQCgldb8 jNs5XOcTn3ncF+herV5qFag= =bGeN -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- J. Kelley Jernigan - Registered Linux User # 282143 Mandrake 9.1 http://www.hovercraftersresource.com - If what you believe does not reflect truth, then what you feel does not reflect reality. Neil Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
OK, Here it is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kelley]$ lspcidrake -v unknown : unknown (8086/2578/1028/0157) [BRIDGE_HOST] unknown : unknown (8086/2579//) [BRIDGE_PCI] usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|USB Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:24d2 subv:1028 subd:0157) usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|USB Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:24d4 subv:1028 subd:0157) usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|USB Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:24d7 subv:1028 subd:0157) usb-uhci: Intel Corp.|82801EB USB EHCI Controller #2 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:24 desubv:1028 subd:0157) ehci-hcd: Intel Corporation|USB Enhanced Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:24 ddsubv:1028 subd:0157) i810_rng: Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset PCI [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:244e) unknown : Intel Corp.|82801EB ISA Bridge (LPC) [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:8086 device:24d0) unknown : Intel Corp.|82801EB ICH5 IDE [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:8086 device:24db subv:1028 subd:0157) unknown : unknown (8086/24d1/1028/0157) [STORAGE_IDE] unknown : Intel Corp.|82801EB SMBus [SERIAL_SMBUS] (vendor:8086 device:24d3 subv:1028 subd:0157) Card:NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic): NVidia|0x322 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:10de device:0322 subv:10de subd:01b9) unknown : unknown (14f1/2702/1028/8d89) [COMMUNICATION_OTHER] audigy : Creative Labs|EMU10K2 Audigy Audio Processor [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1102 device:0004 subv:1102 subd:1003) ohci1394: Creative Labs|EMU10K2 Audigy IEEE1394 Firewire Controller [SERIAL_FIREWIRE](vendor:1102 device:4001 subv:1102 subd:0010) e100: Intel Corp.|82801EB (ICH5) PRO/100 VE Ethernet Controller [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:8086 device:1050 subv:1028 subd:0157) unknown : Linux 2.4.21-0.13mdk ehci-hcd|PCI device 8086:24dd (Intel Corp.) [Hub|Root Hub](vendor: device:) unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:) unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:) unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:) unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:) On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 14:16, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would someone with one of theese Dell systems with cripled audigy2 dsp send me the output of lspcidrake -v... If we can't get it to work normally, maybe we can work around the problem with it... Regards Thomas __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- J. Kelley Jernigan - Registered Linux User # 282143 Mandrake 9.1 http://www.hovercraftersresource.com - If what you believe does not reflect truth, then what you feel does not reflect reality. Neil Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
From: J. Kelley Jernigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, Here it is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kelley]$ lspcidrake -v [...] audigy : Creative Labs|EMU10K2 Audigy Audio Processor [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1102 device:0004 subv:1102 subd:1003) ohci1394: Creative Labs|EMU10K2 Audigy IEEE1394 Firewire Controller [SERIAL_FIREWIRE](vendor:1102 device:4001 subv:1102 subd:0010) [...] OK, thanks... Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] web mail server
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Leonardo Sá wrote: i'm planning to do a mail user management (like to add and remove mail users, but only mail users) via the web using apache. I know that postfix can use mysql (and mysql records can be added via web using php) to authenticate it's users but i don't have any ideas on how to create new users for imap (imap-2000a) access. TTBOMK, the only difference between a mail-only user and a standard user is the former's lack of a valid default shell definition in /etc/passwd (which is what prevents them from being able to login). Certainly, if one plans to use imap, such users will need their own home directories, as that is where imap will store their mail folders. It seems to me that if you want to administer these users over the web (and securely, obviously), Webmin is the easiest way to do it, and would work right out of the box. Setting up LDAP is another option, but I've never wrestled with that. :) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 The engineer is neither optimist nor pessimist. He sees the proverbial half-full/empty glass and says, The glass is twice as big as there is any need for it to be. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
P.S. I tried changing my sound configuration in MDK control center from Audigy to snd-emu10k1. The problem is how do I save this change? If I go to any other part of NDK Control it tell me the changed will not be saved and when I click on Configure Module it crashes Control Center. Thanks On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 10:52, Anne Wilson wrote: I have Audigy 2 installed with MDK9.1-25 kernel, and the audigy module works great. I'm using OSS. so it must just be a configuration issue. First, have you checked that none of the available mixers are muted? Aumix is the usual culprit. Anne -- J. Kelley Jernigan - Registered Linux User # 282143 Mandrake 9.1 http://www.hovercraftersresource.com - If what you believe does not reflect truth, then what you feel does not reflect reality. Neil Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] web mail server
Leonardo Sá said: i'm planning to do a mail user management (like to add and remove mail users, but only mail users) via the web using apache. I know that postfix can use mysql (and mysql records can be added via web using php) to authenticate it's users but i don't have any ideas on how to create new users for imap (imap-2000a) access. Any ideas? Regards, Leonardo Sá Reading your subject line, I thought you were looking for a webmail server - reading the body - well, I'm not quite sure (but that's probably just me :) ) Anyway, here's a suggestion anyway, and if it's retarded, than just ignore: www.squirrelmail.org -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 03:29 pm, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: How do you think Dell will react considering the card works perfectly well with XP Pro? Also, where did the Audigy 2 drivers for linux come from? I've googled and tried Cooker and I cannot find any for Linux. When I Google for; emu10k2; audigy 2 there are lots of entries. Like this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/91964 Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 16:38:53 up 14 days, 6:00, 1 user, load average: 0.61, 0.34, 0.56 Be incomprehensible. If they can't understand, they can't disagree. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/f0xVG11CaRuZZSIRAs1wAKCd+a5YtZz7aQnz+UNEQo0JoTusHQCcDQfZ ar3sPpBt+N+77e9RKXj8ssw= =jzv5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Anne Wilson said: Just browsing their webpage, they don't seem to have support for anything buy 95,98 or ME. Are you talking about one in beta? I may have to grovel on this one. I was speaking from memory, but I can't find the newletter I was thinking of - I must have deleted it. I know they were talking about DirectX improvements, but I could be totally wrong about W2K and XP. Sorry. As I said, win98SE is 100% stable for me under win4lin, but I recognise that that is no help if you need to read ntfs directories, or own a copy of w2k but not win98. Sorry if I misled you. No, not a bit. I shouldn't be slamming win4lin, it is a good product; I actually bought a couple of versions (aarrggh, the cat is stepping on my keyboard, looking for attention - wow, is she persistent!) quite some time ago. I switched to vmware about 6 months ago and I'm actually planning on paying for it, as soon as I come up with the money! It supports everything; I was really impressed with it's ability to run multiple os's at the same time. The price is quite a bit higher for it though, hence why I haven't paid for it yet. I guess it's kind of apples and oranges as far as target users though. My point was simply that they need to come out with ntfs support soon (win4lin that is) because people are going to be using what they have available and it will most likely be nt based, as well as software titles which people will most likely be running will probably stop being win98 compatible. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
Charlie M. schrieb am Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:46:41 -0600: I hope they don't run. I'll be modifying my presentations and methods to try and overcome some of the natural resistance I expect to encounter. I recognize that the onus is on me to make things appear as easy as they actually are, and I've already gone back to the pattern that forces the potential refugee to ask more than once before I'll do anything more than provide links to information. They have asked and my first question was: Why do you want to know about Linux? so that's how I know that their cause is primarily getting away from Windows. I'll ask them, what they want to do and then I show them a desktop and ask them to do what they want. Let's see how far I get. It will not be a presentation but more of an opportunity for them to do some normal tasks on a system they never saw before. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Saturday 04 October 2003 14:06, zephod wrote: Would you please be so kind to fix your Reply-to setting ? As it is now it sends a reply only to you; not to the list. Thanks! If you can point me where I can do this in kmail 1.5.3, I will be glad to do so. It seems that there is only a global Reply-to setting per identity, but not one for a specific mailing list. Maybe I have overlooked it? You should only need to set a reply-to at all if the address you want replies to go to is different than the address you are sending the message from. For instance, if I send a message to my project team asking for input, but I want all the replies to go to my secretary so that she can compile the feedback into one document. So, since your from and reply-to are the same, just clear the reply-to. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] alphabet characters
Hey, How do I go about using cyrillic, greek, or any other characters in my outgoing email? I messed around pasting the characters, but when I viewed it, it only showed the ascii character code ''. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Auto installation question
Jack Coates said: Jumpstart uses a network boot protocol to get an IP and basic system image, then either run as a diskless workstation or install system packages from an NFS server. It's good stuff. LTSP is the right direction, and I seem to recall that some cluster projects have some way to do something similar. You could do the same thing with NFS and linux. It's been awhile since I've done it with cooker, but I believe you just image the 'network.img' image from the 'images' directory on the install cd onto a floppy and then boot the machine in question, pointing it to your NFS, FTP or whatever else kind of server you setup. I may not have all the details correct, but it's pretty basic and I bet the instructions are even still on the cooker page. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] alphabet characters
Hey, How do I go about using cyrillic, greek, or any other characters in my outgoing email? I messed around pasting the characters, but when I viewed it, it only showed the ascii character code ''. -- Not very easily :( Here's a web resource for some information: http://www.hri.org/fonts/unix/ If you're trying to send mathematical documents I've found that the easiest method is to compose in LaTeX then send as a PDF or PS file. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] alphabet characters
Kwan Lowe said: Not very easily :( Here's a web resource for some information: http://www.hri.org/fonts/unix/ If you're trying to send mathematical documents I've found that the easiest method is to compose in LaTeX then send as a PDF or PS file. eeekk!! I was hoping it wouldn't be that complicated - it's just a sig file for cryin' out loud :) Thanks Kwan, I've got some reading to do I see... -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support
On Saturday 04 October 2003 05:29 pm, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote: How do you think Dell will react considering the card works perfectly well with XP Pro? Well, if push gets to shove, take the approach that you bought a general purpose computer -- not an appliance that only ran with one specific OS. IIRC, Dell's ads say something to the effect, Dell recommends that you use MS Windows XP; they do not warn you that it will not work properly in the manner that you expected with another OS. Lawyers call that misrepresentation. (IANAL, but my other hobby is tilting with windmills.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Auto installation question
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 16:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Coates said: Jumpstart uses a network boot protocol to get an IP and basic system image, then either run as a diskless workstation or install system packages from an NFS server. It's good stuff. LTSP is the right direction, and I seem to recall that some cluster projects have some way to do something similar. You could do the same thing with NFS and linux. It's been awhile since I've done it with cooker, but I believe you just image the 'network.img' image from the 'images' directory on the install cd onto a floppy and then boot the machine in question, pointing it even better, put the network.img on your TFTP server and use PXE netboot. This is all do-able with Linux and PCs, it's just not as out-of-box ready as it is with Sun. No biggie since the first thing you have to do with Sun is patch with their horrible patch system, and the second thing you have to do is install all the GNU utilities so that you actually get a usable Unix. to your NFS, FTP or whatever else kind of server you setup. I may not have all the details correct, but it's pretty basic and I bet the instructions are even still on the cooker page. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] web mail server
thanks for the answers guys. On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Leonardo Sá wrote: i'm planning to do a mail user management (like to add and remove mail users, but only mail users) via the web using apache. I know that postfix can use mysql (and mysql records can be added via web using php) to authenticate it's users but i don't have any ideas on how to create new users for imap (imap-2000a) access. TTBOMK, the only difference between a mail-only user and a standard user is the former's lack of a valid default shell definition in /etc/passwd (which is what prevents them from being able to login). Certainly, if one plans to use imap, such users will need their own home directories, as that is where imap will store their mail folders. It seems to me that if you want to administer these users over the web (and securely, obviously), Webmin is the easiest way to do it, and would work right out of the box. I don't want to use webmin for this because people that will use it are not very used to *nix systems, so i must do something very simple. Setting up LDAP is another option, I need some research on this Reading your subject line, I thought you were looking for a webmail server - reading the body - well, I'm not quite sure (but that's probably just me :) ) i just want to add users (and remove them) to my mail system Anyway, here's a suggestion anyway, and if it's retarded, than just ignore: www.squirrelmail.org thanks for the suggestion :) So, i just need to figure out a way to add new users to my system via the web. I'll try to research it by myself, but if someone has ideas, please let me know. Regards, Leonardo Sá Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Auto installation question
Jack Coates said: No biggie since the first thing you have to do with Sun is patch with their horrible patch system, and the second thing you have to do is install all the GNU utilities so that you actually get a usable Unix. Well said -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] No one answering on newbie :-(
Sorry but there is a stony silence on newbie... there seems to be a lot of political traffic though... if this is not the place to be asking the sorts of questions I'm asking could someone please direct me to the right place? Thanks Anton Hi, I am trying to set up my mandrake 9.1 box to be the gateway to my recently created network with a single windoze ME machine on the private subnet. I have finally managed to get the ME machine able to reach the outside world but to be honest I can't really work out how! I tried pretty much everything and nothing worked... and then it just started working. My general process was to just keep running drakgw until the damn thing worked - finally it did. (i tried knetfilter, and everything else I could get my hands on, but I'm still a newbie...). The problem is this. EVERY time I want the ME machine to work I have to rerun drakgw. Not only that, however, but I have to go in and manually reset the default to the dialup address, as running drakgw always seems to put the default back to my home net interface (ethernet). What is going on here? Also simply booting up the ME machine resets the default route to the address of the local subnet interface! (even though it be on the dialup after connecting to the net) Another issue is that the dhcp doesn't seem to be working. I originally set up a network with XP (which I also have on the mdk9.1 box) and used a disk created by the xp wizard to get it going. Somehow ME always manages to set the IP address to 192.168.0.163, and the gateway to 192.168.0.1 - what it originally had for the xp network. Mdk9.1 seems to want to have a subnet starting with 192.168.1.1 but ME isn't listening to the dhcp (which I guess should be running, as it seems as if that is what it says it is doing) and just sets itself to 192.168.0.163. If I set the mdk9.1 to statically come out with 192.168.0.1 then, as long as I rerun the config tool, keeping the IP addresses the same for dns and others then after I reset the default I can access the net with both machines. This is an enormous amount of hassle and I'm sure there is something silly I'm not doing. Any suggestions? Cheers Anton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] gnomemeeting / netmeeting
Hey all, I´ve setup gnomemeeting on my computer and I´ve been trying to test it by connecting to my in-laws´ computer running netmeeting. Everything seems to be configured and working correctly. When I connect, it lasts anywhere from 1 to 2 minutes tops and then disconnects. Neither app crashes, the connection just dies. Were both on dsl. The message at the bottom os gnomemeeting is ¨exited abnormally¨. Any thoughts? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT theme question
Jack Coates said: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 12:45, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:05, Jack Coates wrote: anyone seen or made a Galaxy-like theme for Windows XP? thanks, replying to myself again... never underestimate the rest of the world's desire to look like MacOSX :-) I just set both machines up to look like Aqua. I like to talk to myself :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/Photos/comp/work-screenshot.png/view go on, abuse the DSL line, it won't fight back. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Hey Jack! Theme looks cool! Except for that little apple in the lower left corner of the right screen :^) Mike -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No one answering on newbie :-(
On Saturday 04 October 2003 23:13, Anton wrote: Sorry but there is a stony silence on newbie... there seems to be a lot of political traffic though... if this is not the place to be asking the sorts of questions I'm asking could someone please direct me to the right place? My patience with newbie is wearing somewhat thin too. I find myself frequently just marking all messages as read without reading them because so many are OT of just personal conversations. You may also have not gotten a response because your topic may actually be somewhat advanced, and the newbie's can't address it. As for actually answering the technical part of your question, I fear I have no knowledge to help you. Sorry :-( Hi, I am trying to set up my mandrake 9.1 box to be the gateway to my recently created network with a single windoze ME machine on the private subnet. I have finally managed to get the ME machine able to reach the outside world but to be honest I can't really work out how! I tried pretty much everything and nothing worked... and then it just started working. My general process was to just keep running drakgw until the damn thing worked - finally it did. (i tried knetfilter, and everything else I could get my hands on, but I'm still a newbie...). The problem is this. EVERY time I want the ME machine to work I have to rerun drakgw. Not only that, however, but I have to go in and manually reset the default to the dialup address, as running drakgw always seems to put the default back to my home net interface (ethernet). What is going on here? Also simply booting up the ME machine resets the default route to the address of the local subnet interface! (even though it be on the dialup after connecting to the net) Another issue is that the dhcp doesn't seem to be working. I originally set up a network with XP (which I also have on the mdk9.1 box) and used a disk created by the xp wizard to get it going. Somehow ME always manages to set the IP address to 192.168.0.163, and the gateway to 192.168.0.1 - what it originally had for the xp network. Mdk9.1 seems to want to have a subnet starting with 192.168.1.1 but ME isn't listening to the dhcp (which I guess should be running, as it seems as if that is what it says it is doing) and just sets itself to 192.168.0.163. If I set the mdk9.1 to statically come out with 192.168.0.1 then, as long as I rerun the config tool, keeping the IP addresses the same for dns and others then after I reset the default I can access the net with both machines. This is an enormous amount of hassle and I'm sure there is something silly I'm not doing. Any suggestions? Cheers Anton -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No one answering on newbie :-(
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 09:13, Anton wrote:
Sorry but there is a stony silence on newbie... there seems to be a lot
of political traffic though... if this is not the place to be asking the
sorts of questions I'm asking could someone please direct me to the
right place?
Thanks
Anton
that sort of thing (lengthy OT flamewars on tech help lists) really bugs
me.
Hi,
I am trying to set up my mandrake 9.1 box to be the gateway to my
recently created network with a single windoze ME machine on the private
subnet. I have finally managed to get the ME machine able to reach the
outside world but to be honest I can't really work out how! I tried
pretty much everything and nothing worked... and then it just started
working. My general process was to just keep running drakgw until the
damn thing worked - finally it did. (i tried knetfilter, and everything
else I could get my hands on, but I'm still a newbie...). The problem is
this. EVERY time I want the ME machine to work I have to rerun drakgw.
Not only that, however, but I have to go in and manually reset the
default to the dialup address, as running drakgw always seems to put the
dialup as in a modem? I'm going to assume so below:
default back to my home net interface (ethernet). What is going on here?
The GUI tools for doing this stuff are trying hard, but they're still
lacking. As root, go to /etc/shorewall and start editing files.
interfaces:
#ZONEINTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS
net ppp0detect
masqeth0detect
masq:
#INTERFACE SUBNET ADDRESS
eth0192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
policy:
#SOURCE DESTPOLICY LOG LEVEL
LIMIT:BURST
masqnet ACCEPT
fw masqACCEPT
fw net ACCEPT
net all DROPinfo
all all REJECT info
zones:
#ZONE DISPLAY COMMENTS
net Net Internet zone
masqMasquerade Masquerade Local
rules:
any exceptions to the policy. Leave it alone for now unless you want to
serve stuff to the Internet.
/etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=machine.whatever.tld
DOMAINNAME=whatever.tld
GATEWAY=isp.gw.ip.address
GATEWAYDEV=ppp0
FORWARD_IPV4=true
service network restart
service shorewall restart
Also simply booting up the ME machine resets the default route to the
address of the local subnet interface! (even though it be on the dialup
after connecting to the net)
that's right. ME should send Internet-bound traffic to the Mandrake
box's inside interface; Linux will then route it onward.
Another issue is that the dhcp doesn't seem to be working. I originally
set up a network with XP (which I also have on the mdk9.1 box) and used
a disk created by the xp wizard to get it going. Somehow ME always
manages to set the IP address to 192.168.0.163, and the gateway to
192.168.0.1 - what it originally had for the xp network. Mdk9.1 seems to
want to have a subnet starting with 192.168.1.1 but ME isn't listening
to the dhcp (which I guess should be running, as it seems as if that is
what it says it is doing) and just sets itself to 192.168.0.163. If I
/etc/sysconfig/dhcpd
INTERFACES=eth0
/etc/dhcpd.conf
ddns-update-style none;
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
# default gateway
option routers 192.168.1.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option domain-name whatever.tld;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.253;
default-lease-time 21600;
max-lease-time 43200;
# I want my laptop to appear at a fixed address
host othermachine {
next-server othermachine.whatever.tld;
hardware ethernet the:mac:address:in:hex;
fixed-address 192.168.1.x;
}
}
chkconfig dhcpd on
service dhcpd start
set the mdk9.1 to statically come out with 192.168.0.1 then, as long as
I rerun the config tool, keeping the IP addresses the same for dns and
others then after I reset the default I can access the net with both
machines. This is an enormous amount of hassle and I'm sure there is
something silly I'm not doing. Any suggestions?
Cheers
Anton
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Re: [expert] OT theme question
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 20:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Coates said: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 12:45, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:05, Jack Coates wrote: anyone seen or made a Galaxy-like theme for Windows XP? thanks, replying to myself again... never underestimate the rest of the world's desire to look like MacOSX :-) I just set both machines up to look like Aqua. I like to talk to myself :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/Photos/comp/work-screenshot.png/view go on, abuse the DSL line, it won't fight back. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Hey Jack! Theme looks cool! Except for that little apple in the lower left corner of the right screen :^) Mike yeah, that kinda bugs me too :-) I found a really badly done XP theme trying to look like Keramik, but it was unusable. The interesting thing about this Aqua theme is that it really does make the XP box feel better, faster, more usable... with one exception. I've been working on some complex Javascript lately and debugging it with IE (Mozilla will quietly ignore Javascript syntax bugs, IE will tell you the line number). Well, ever since turning on the XP theme, IE takes like six seconds to chew through auto-filling six dynamic dropdown menus. Mozilla of course has no problem, and IE had no problem before the theme. Anyway, way outta topic now. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No one answering on newbie :-(
Would go quicker if you provided your config's and/or log snippets doesn't seem to be working really doesn't give us much to go by.. :) /var/log/messages is a good place to start.. It's cool how yer like one of 8 people using ME in real life tho.. I've heard about you! :) -matt ps - i run nearly the same setup as you are wanting, except with only linux boxes. On October 4, 2003 09:13 pm, Anton wrote: Sorry but there is a stony silence on newbie... there seems to be a lot of political traffic though... if this is not the place to be asking the sorts of questions I'm asking could someone please direct me to the right place? Thanks Anton Hi, I am trying to set up my mandrake 9.1 box to be the gateway to my recently created network with a single windoze ME machine on the private subnet. I have finally managed to get the ME machine able to reach the outside world but to be honest I can't really work out how! I tried pretty much everything and nothing worked... and then it just started working. My general process was to just keep running drakgw until the damn thing worked - finally it did. (i tried knetfilter, and everything else I could get my hands on, but I'm still a newbie...). The problem is this. EVERY time I want the ME machine to work I have to rerun drakgw. Not only that, however, but I have to go in and manually reset the default to the dialup address, as running drakgw always seems to put the default back to my home net interface (ethernet). What is going on here? Also simply booting up the ME machine resets the default route to the address of the local subnet interface! (even though it be on the dialup after connecting to the net) Another issue is that the dhcp doesn't seem to be working. I originally set up a network with XP (which I also have on the mdk9.1 box) and used a disk created by the xp wizard to get it going. Somehow ME always manages to set the IP address to 192.168.0.163, and the gateway to 192.168.0.1 - what it originally had for the xp network. Mdk9.1 seems to want to have a subnet starting with 192.168.1.1 but ME isn't listening to the dhcp (which I guess should be running, as it seems as if that is what it says it is doing) and just sets itself to 192.168.0.163. If I set the mdk9.1 to statically come out with 192.168.0.1 then, as long as I rerun the config tool, keeping the IP addresses the same for dns and others then after I reset the default I can access the net with both machines. This is an enormous amount of hassle and I'm sure there is something silly I'm not doing. Any suggestions? Cheers Anton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT theme question
Jack Coates said: yeah, that kinda bugs me too :-) I found a really badly done XP theme trying to look like Keramik, but it was unusable. The interesting thing about this Aqua theme is that it really does make the XP box feel better, faster, more usable... with one exception. I've been working on some complex Javascript lately and debugging it with IE (Mozilla will quietly ignore Javascript syntax bugs, IE will tell you the line number). Well, ever since turning on the XP theme, IE takes like six seconds to chew through auto-filling six dynamic dropdown menus. Mozilla of course has no problem, and IE had no problem before the theme. Anyway, way outta topic now. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Yeah, I go back and forth on themes. I look at some of the stuff on xp or even kde / gnome sometimes and think ¨wow, that really looks cool!¨ Then after about a week of dealing with the slow logging in, etc. I end up back with blackbox / fluxbox. It´s so much nicer just being able to get where you´re going in a decent amount of time. Fonts are really my only gripe on any of them - I like those new smooth, pretty ones. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks
OK, I made it through ripping my first tape, and I was really impressed with how it sounds, but I was really unimpressed with how it split the tracks. On Lou Reed 'New York' out of 14 tracks, it only found 4 and I used Audacity to split the others. Has any one fiddled around with splitting tracks, and correcting the default setup to do a better job? I will dive into it myself if no one has, but I would hate to figure it out myself, only to find someone beat me to it. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] wav to mp3 enmasse?
Is there a tool for converting wav files to mp3s enmasse? Right now I am using Lame at the command line, but it is getting old. I would like to point Lame at a directory of wavs and have it encode the mp3 files using the same name. Any thoughts beyond a shell script? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE start up is too slow!!
Dear Friends, I've installed mdk-9.0 on a 40Gb western-digital (WDC-4000C) HDD several times and never seen any problem with installation and boot-up of system or KDE start-up. I think untill now, I've installed mandrake 9.0 on my system for about 20 times, and never had had any problem. but at this time, I have a amazing problem. KDE 3.0 start up is too slow, but before, it was not!! I was looking for the reason(s). I did not change any configuration of my system and did not change the partition table of my HDD. I mean that the total system is same as all those cases that I've had before. First of all, I though that it was because of lack of swap space(linux swap partition). but why I had not this problem before with the same size of swap space that I have? anyway, I've increased the swap space, but the problem is still remain! Then I though that it may has a problem durring installation( I always install mdk in expert mode) .I repeated the installation several times durring two last days, but the problem is still remain. Now the configuration, installation is the same as before but now KDE is starting up too slow. Please help me to find out the reason. Note : I tried to explain in detail so you can help me. = Kaveh Gh. Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
