OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
I was scanning my system at home with Microsoft's Standalone System Scanner and it found OpenCandy on my system, which I'd never heard of before. Come to find out it's a piece of software that comes bundled with a lot of freeware apps that offers to install some 3rd party app for you while you're installing the app you originally downloaded. To me, that sounds like adware. What do y'all think? I understand a need by programmers to get paid for their software but to my way of thinking, this subterfuge stinks! -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Interesting retort from opencandy. http://www.opencandy.com/2011/03/04/the-story-behind-the-opencandy-and-m icrosoft-adware-debacle/ Per them all their partners are required to provide an EULA that each person has to accept before installing any new software. I do classify this myself as adware since that is precisely what its doing. ..I don't classify it as malware where they don't notify you of installs and such and do a lot of subterfuge as you phrased it. You had to accept the opencandy eula to install it at some point either through a partner affiliation or direct EULA. There is no such thing as a free lunch this includes programs Actually, there is free software... just some of the stuff that comes packaged with OpenCandy isn't completely free... -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil ¦¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: Per them all their partners are required to provide an EULA that each person has to accept before installing any new software. I do classify this myself as adware since that is precisely what its doing. ..I don't classify it as malware where they don't notify you of installs and such and do a lot of subterfuge as you phrased it. Yah, it's an interesting concept. It's certainly adware (advertisements in software), but different from the usual implementation, where you see ads while the program you asked for is running normally. OpenCandy is supposedly only seen during installation of the program you asked for. If, as the purveyors claim, it's only used during installation (while waiting for the program you downloaded to install), it's relatively unobtrusive. If, as the purveyors claim, it sends no identifying information out to others, it's also relatively harmless. If, as the purveyors claim, anyone using OpenCandy clearly identifies what it is and does, then it's also honest and above-board. PDFCreator adopted OpenCandy a year or three back. There was a big kerfuffle in the user community about it. The publishers of PDFCreator responded by offering an alternate installer without it. The prominent download link on this home page gives you the OpenCandy version; the other-downloads section has the sugar-free variety. Advertisements by themselves are not necessarily evil (advertising pays for a lot of things many people enjoy), but on the Internet and computer they often get used in disingenuous or unethical ways. Examples include advertisements that pop-up when you didn't ask for it, or track your activity. One thing that occurs to me is that many versions of Microsoft Windows also feature advertisements during installation. So if you have a problem with using OpenCandy because you see ads during an install, then in fairness you should also stop using MS Windows. My main problem is that it *doesn't* go away like it's supposed to when it's done installing the app you requested. According to the OpenCandy, it's supposed to install the app, show you some optional software and then delete itself when it's done installing all the software. On my computer, it didn't. I don't know what it did or didn't do since I last used it to install something. I installed two programs which are identified as using that, and I do not recall ever seeing anything about OpenCandy during those installs. Granted, I wasn't looking for it, but I still think it's a bit wrong to hide it from the end-user. At least in previous versions it DID create a unique identifier for your computer. Granted they *say* that the new version doesn't do that, but do you REALLY trust these folks? I sure don't. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Well, I was using the bootable CD, so any infection on the computer should not affect the machine in question. I'm guessing it's just old hardware that isn't up to the job. I might take a USB cd up to a couple of 'em, but honestly I'm not really worried about it on those machines. We have that IP range blocked in the firewall, so it's not as big a deal as it might have been. OTOH, I am glad I used that bootable CD as some of the computers were really infested beyond what I would have expected with Vipre installed. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Did it successfully install the software and NOT allow you to update the definition files? This is a good sign of an infected computer. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: What do you do if the machine won't run it? I have two machines that both think the CD I just made is like 5 years old, and they won't allow me to update the definitions or anything :( Neither one is really critical but I can't replace 'em right now... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Yeah. these are older computers. thought maybe it was the speed of the computer. *shrug* As I said, I'm not seeing any hits on the firewall for that IP range, so maybe I got it already. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection bad disc clamp in CD ROM drive, preventing proper rotational speed to read the disk ??? (guessing the machines that won't read are NOT brand new) On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... Not sure what would cause this. I've only booted from it one time and didn't have a problem. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: What do you do if the machine won't run it? I have two machines that both think the CD I just made is like 5 years old, and they won't allow me to update the definitions or anything :( Neither one is really critical but I can't replace 'em right now... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Working on *installing* it on one of those computers. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yes. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm assuming you mean one of the computers that was unable to use the CD? John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Try to boot normally and update Malwarebytes now. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:02 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, I was using the bootable CD, so any infection on the computer should not affect the machine in question. I'm guessing it's just old hardware that isn't up to the job. I might take a USB cd up to a couple of 'em, but honestly I'm not really worried about it on those machines. We have that IP range blocked in the firewall, so it's not as big a deal as it might have been. OTOH, I am glad I used that bootable CD as some of the computers were really infested beyond what I would have expected with Vipre installed. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Did it successfully install the software and NOT allow you to update the definition files? This is a good sign of an infected computer. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: What do you do if the machine won't run it? I have two machines that both think the CD I just made is like 5 years old, and they won't allow me to update the definitions or anything :( Neither one is really critical but I can't replace 'em right now... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Installed a copy of MBAM on one of the PCs which would not work with the live CD and it's now scanning. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yes. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm assuming you mean one of the computers that was unable to use the CD? John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Try to boot normally and update Malwarebytes now. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:02 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, I was using the bootable CD, so any infection on the computer should not affect the machine in question. I'm guessing it's just old hardware that isn't up to the job. I might take a USB cd up to a couple of 'em, but honestly I'm not really worried about it on those machines. We have that IP range blocked in the firewall, so it's not as big a deal as it might have been. OTOH, I am glad I used that bootable CD as some of the computers were really infested beyond what I would have expected with Vipre installed. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Did it successfully install the software and NOT allow you to update the definition files? This is a good sign of an infected computer. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: What do you do if the machine won't run it? I have two machines that both think the CD I just made is like 5 years old, and they won't allow me to update the definitions or anything :( Neither one is really critical but I can't replace 'em right now... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Not really. I don't do much with the firewall as I don't know much about Cisco. I rely on an outside consultant/vendor to handle any changes necessary for us. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, do you do any sort of DNS or URL filtering at your firewall to control/restrict outbound traffic? _ From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 07 October 2011 4:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Well, I was using the bootable CD, so any infection on the computer should not affect the machine in question. I'm guessing it's just old hardware that isn't up to the job. I might take a USB cd up to a couple of 'em, but honestly I'm not really worried about it on those machines. We have that IP range blocked in the firewall, so it's not as big a deal as it might have been. OTOH, I am glad I used that bootable CD as some of the computers were really infested beyond what I would have expected with Vipre installed. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Did it successfully install the software and NOT allow you to update the definition files? This is a good sign of an infected computer. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: What do you do if the machine won't run it? I have two machines that both think the CD I just made is like 5 years old, and they won't allow me to update the definitions or anything :( Neither one is really critical but I can't replace 'em right now... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Delayed Startup for Exchange services?
Could you go into service manager and set the Exchange services to be dependant on DNS? That might fix the problem, although one might wonder why DNS is taking so long to start. From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Delayed Startup for Exchange services? You need DNS to be working. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Oliver Marshall oliver.marsh...@g2support.com wrote: We have a problem with an SBS2011 server when it reboots. After the reboot all the Exchange services fail to start seemingly because the DNS server isnt up yet. We get a load of alerts saying that the exchange services cant find any AD servers and a few other services which log on using specific accounts also fail to start with logon errors. If you want a few mins then they happily start up. Is there anything wrong with setting the Exchange services to delayed start? Would that, do you think, have any knock on effects? Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Thanks! I'll give that a shot. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
What do you do if the machine wont run it? I have two machines that both think the CD I just made is like 5 years old, and they won't allow me to update the definitions or anything :( Neither one is really critical but I can't replace 'em right now... From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Yeah... give the one from Microsoft a try: http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Well, we blocked the IPs of the CC server at the firewall, and theoretically, I should have had some hits on the firewall overnight, but I never did, so I don't know what's going on. Unless/until I can find something to point me towards a good way to find this sucker, I'm going to call it resolved. I did contact Sunbelt, but the tech I got seemed to think I'd already identified the infected PC. I think the only way I'm likely to identify the machine in question is to boot off removable media and scan the hard drive of every machine that has been turned on during the time the infection was detected (about a dozen or two.) Do y'all know of any good free/trialware that one can download a bootable ISO for to scan for this bug? From: Cynicalgeek [mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So you have no root cause but it is resolved? On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope. I managed to get the ASA logging to a Linux box successfully, but it's not showing any hits on the relevant IP address. *shrug* I don't know if running Malware Bytes on a few machines cleaned it or not. I didn't find anything major on those machines, so I doubt that was it. I suppose it could be a false-positive. Don't know. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection John, How'd you make out with this issue? Determine the source yet? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email
RE: Needing to encrypt a file
As previously stated: GnuPG should do the trick. -Original Message- From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Needing to encrypt a file Its an Italian Medical organization that has him login, create an account, setup the information about his organization and then downloads a file to his desktop that he has to encrypt with their requirements. Once he does that he can then upload documents to their system for review... Haven't ever seen anything like it before. Sorry when I said signature, its really just signing the file digitally and uploading it back to their servers. Their instructions just indicate to sign the file offline using our encryption software... But it has to be in pkcs#7 Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Needing to encrypt a file On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:06, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: Have a customer that is needing to encrypt his signature. The organization wants it in PKCS#7, any suggestions on programs or ideas to get it done today.. They do not want to create a PKI infrastructure locally. Thx What is meant by encrypt his signature, and what process are they trying to further? Why the requirement for PKCS#7, vs. something else? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
I did not receive notification from my ISP. I found out about it when I was corresponding with someone from work on my personal email address and the email kept getting held. I looked at *why* it was being held and the info was that it was being held by the CBL.ABUSEAT.ORG block list. They in turn told me that the external IP of our firewall was listed due to the Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot traffic. *shrug* I'm looking at probably 2-3 dozen computers total in one location. From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection How many machines are we talking about here? All local or some in remote locations? The ISP did not provide the IP of the device that was misbehaving? Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:22:56 -0400 So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Email blocklist: cbl.abuseat.org for attempting to make contact to a Torpig Command and Control server at 91.20.221.209, with contents unique to Torpig CC command protocols. From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Can you expand on blacklisted? Which blacklist and for what type of traffic? From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Not yet. I can do so though. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Have you kicked off a VIPRE deep scan on these machines? Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can't figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn't able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
I *do* have ASDM, but the log file does not seem to go back a very long ways, and this infection apparently only attempts to check-in every few hours as best I can tell from the frequency of the reports. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Are you using ASDM? Can't you filter the builtin realtime log viewer in a way that might show you the infected machines? (It's been a long time since I've used ASDM...) On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:59 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Email blocklist: cbl.abuseat.org for attempting to make contact to a Torpig Command and Control server at 91.20.221.209, with contents unique to Torpig CC command protocols. From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Can you expand on blacklisted? Which blacklist and for what type of traffic? From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I can’t figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasn’t able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
We don't have a mail server here. Our ISP hosts our email for us, so yeah, we do allow SMTP out. I wonder if there's a way to force all port 25 traffic to one IP in the firewall? -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Jus to confirm, you don't allow outbound SMTP from anything other than your corporate SMTP boxes do you? From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 7:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Email blocklist: cbl.abuseat.org for attempting to make contact to a Torpig Command and Control server at 91.20.221.209, with contents unique to Torpig CC command protocols. From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Can you expand on blacklisted? Which blacklist and for what type of traffic? From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
I've got a deep scan scheduled for tonight. Hopefully it'll catch it, but according to the information on the CBL, it's not commonly caught that way... Pay very close attention: Most of these trojans have extremely poor detection rates in current Anti-Virus software... I did scan the likely suspects with Malware Bytes, but didn't see any infection. As I said, Vipre Enterprise will be deep-scanning tonight. From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection you *should* be able to do virus scan of your network and identify the culprit. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:58:42 -0400 I did not receive notification from my ISP. I found out about it when I was corresponding with someone from work on my personal email address and the email kept getting held. I looked at *why* it was being held and the info was that it was being held by the CBL.ABUSEAT.ORG block list. They in turn told me that the external IP of our firewall was listed due to the Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot traffic. *shrug* I'm looking at probably 2-3 dozen computers total in one location. From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection How many machines are we talking about here? All local or some in remote locations? The ISP did not provide the IP of the device that was misbehaving? Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:22:56 -0400 So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
Thanks, Tammy! My thought was that it would be easy to find in the Cisco ASA logs... yeah, right! :D -Original Message- From: Tammy Stewart [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection If Vipre does not find the culprit John, don't be shy to shoot us a support ticket request. We'll help find it. Support request page: www.gfi.com/supportform Indicate you need security response ticket will get to us faster. Tammy -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection You really don't want to be doing that, or if you must do it at least only allow it outbound to the IP of the mail server your PC's are supposed to be using. Looking at the CBL listing it appears they list you for activity other than SMTP traffic, so it may well be other traffic that's got you listed, but it still doesn't change the fact that you really don't want to allow unrestricted outbound SMTP from any/all IP's on your LAN. Ditto all other ports/protocols. If you don't already do so, start from a position of only allowing the ports required. From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 9:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection We don't have a mail server here. Our ISP hosts our email for us, so yeah, we do allow SMTP out. I wonder if there's a way to force all port 25 traffic to one IP in the firewall? -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Jus to confirm, you don't allow outbound SMTP from anything other than your corporate SMTP boxes do you? From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 7:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Email blocklist: cbl.abuseat.org for attempting to make contact to a Torpig Command and Control server at 91.20.221.209, with contents unique to Torpig CC command protocols. From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection Can you expand on blacklisted? Which blacklist and for what type of traffic? From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 03 October 2011 6:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection So, our external IP is blacklisted because apparently one of our machines is infected with a banking Trojan. Short of going to each and every individual machine on the network, the only thing I can think of to do is to set up logging of the ASA to a syslog server. I have downloaded and installed a trial version of Kiwi syslog, but I cant figure out how to configure it to forward the log files to my system. Anyone here able to provide a good how-to? I *did* Google, but apparently my Google-fu sucks, as I wasnt able to find instructions that made sense to me. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
Re: Torpig/Anserin/Mebroot infection
On Mon October 3 2011, you wrote: On 3 Oct 2011 at 16:14, John Aldrich wrote: We don't have a mail server here. Our ISP hosts our email for us, so yeah, we do allow SMTP out. I wonder if there's a way to force all port 25 traffic to one IP in the firewall? There's usually a way to limit port-25 traffic to only one IP. It won't force the traffic (redirect it), but it will prevent infected machines from sending to port 25 elsewhere. That'll help with spam bots and such, but it wouldn't help in this case. :D -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
USB KVM switch that works with Linux and wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse
I've bought two IOGear KVM switches so far. The first one was a PS/2 only and didn't work with my Dell machine since it's USB-only and it didn't work with the PS2-USB adapter. Then I bought another IOGear, this time a USB one and it wouldn't pass the unifying receiver from my Wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse. When I tried to use the keyboard and mouse with the IOgear KVM, it said no unifying receiver found, plus it wouldn't see my Linux box at all. :( So, for those two reasons I'm sending it back. Does anyone have a KVM that will work with a Logitech unifying receiver for my wireless keyboard and mouse AND will see my Linux box? The IOGear didn't even detect it as being an active port! Oh, one other thing... I like the price point of the IOGear, even if their equipment doesn't work, so I'd prefer something in the $50 price range. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks?
There are USB sticks with a switch that is supposed to make them read-only until you flip the switch again. I don't know how that works or how well, but I know that there are flash drives with a write-protect switch on 'em. You can find 'em on NewEgg and probably elsewhere. I just checked on NewEgg to make sure I wasn't misremembering. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Did not and heres why I have yet to hear about any guaranteed way to make a USB drive unwriteable on any machine you plug it into short of having a manufacturer burn the data to one and ship it to you in which case youre paying 25x more for the same effect a non rewritable CD/DVD gives you. If anyone knows of a way to do it (and Im not talking about a reg hack on a machine or a program that disables the functionality on a computer) please share. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Thanks, anyone tried this on a USB stick? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Excellent! Thank you. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: The Microsoft system sweeper standalone seemed to work well when I tested it. http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Best boot-to virus clean-up options. Friends like to bring me their contaminated laptops, and I mostly clean-install over them. I know AV exists that let you boot to a clean-up disk, who has favorites? Thanks -- G. Waleed Kavalec - Whether you are talking engineering, electricity, or human beings... the place where the most power is concentrated is the place where the worst things happen. Ask any 10 pound plutonium sphere. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec - Whether you are talking engineering, electricity, or human beings... the place where the most power is concentrated is the place where the worst things happen. Ask any 10
RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks?
I have never used a flash drive with a write-protect switch. Does anyone on the list have any experience with those and know whether or not a virus would be able to bypass that? Just curious how effective it would be in keeping viruses at bay. That being said, if you're booting off it, I don't really see a huge issue as you're not going to be running anything off the hard drive, so at least in theory, you shouldn't need to worry about viruses that may be on the hard drive. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Quick check of Amazon.com seems to show: 2GB drive for $10 http://www.amazon.com/Flash-Drive-write-protect-switch/dp/B005KL31E6 8GB drive for $20.99 http://www.amazon.com/RiDATA-Flash-Drive-Slider-Drives/dp/B000RGDA5E/ref=pd_ cp_e_4 32GB drive for $57.99 http://www.amazon.com/Ritek-Ridata-Twister-Protection-RDEZ32G-TW-LIG0/dp/B00 2G9TWUM Sure, you can get a DVD for less than a dollar, but for the prices above, Id just get the flash drive and the ease of use that comes with that. Cheers Ken From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 9:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? They are lots more expensive than CD/DVDs, however. Not that this is automatically a non-starter, but it speaks to Mr. Cook's earlier point. I'd sooner get a USB DVD drive, even though they are slightly less portable. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: There are USB sticks with a switch that is supposed to make them read-only until you flip the switch again. I don't know how that works or how well, but I know that there are flash drives with a write-protect switch on 'em. You can find 'em on NewEgg and probably elsewhere. I just checked on NewEgg to make sure I wasn't misremembering. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Did not and heres why I have yet to hear about any guaranteed way to make a USB drive unwriteable on any machine you plug it into short of having a manufacturer burn the data to one and ship it to you in which case youre paying 25x more for the same effect a non rewritable CD/DVD gives you. If anyone knows of a way to do it (and Im not talking about a reg hack on a machine or a program that disables the functionality on a computer) please share. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Thanks, anyone tried this on a USB stick? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Excellent! Thank you. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: The Microsoft system sweeper standalone seemed to work well when I tested it. http://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Best boot-to virus clean-up options. Friends like to bring me their contaminated laptops, and I mostly clean-install over them. I know AV exists that let you boot to a clean-up disk, who has favorites? Thanks -- G. Waleed Kavalec - Whether you are talking engineering, electricity, or human beings... the place where the most power is concentrated is the place where the worst things happen. Ask any 10 pound plutonium sphere. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks?
Exactly... You shut down the PC in question, disable writing on the Flash Drive (moot point, but still...for those paranoid people out there *grin*) boot off the flash drive and do your scan. Where's the danger??? From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? You are booting into a completely different OS and not launching any applictions to do this scan. I am not sure I understand the level of paronoia. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: My point exactly a CD/DVD is 100% safe. I cant tell you how many times Ive had users call in telling me their wireless isnt working on their laptop only to find out theyve accidentally hit the slider on the side of the computer that turns it off. It happens, even to IT people (especially when they are under pressure to fix several high priority things). Im not against using a USB drive but for safety its my second choice. And a DVD costs me about $.20, maybe less. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Well, I guess if it's read-only, a virus would have a hell of a job copying itself to it. But if the virus is already present when you set the switch to read-only, then it will still execute, I should think. On 13 September 2011 16:28, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I have never used a flash drive with a write-protect switch. Does anyone on the list have any experience with those and know whether or not a virus would be able to bypass that? Just curious how effective it would be in keeping viruses at bay. That being said, if you're booting off it, I don't really see a huge issue as you're not going to be running anything off the hard drive, so at least in theory, you shouldn't need to worry about viruses that may be on the hard drive. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Quick check of Amazon.com seems to show: 2GB drive for $10 http://www.amazon.com/Flash-Drive-write-protect-switch/dp/B005KL31E6 8GB drive for $20.99 http://www.amazon.com/RiDATA-Flash-Drive-Slider-Drives/dp/B000RGDA5E/ref=pd_ cp_e_4 32GB drive for $57.99 http://www.amazon.com/Ritek-Ridata-Twister-Protection-RDEZ32G-TW-LIG0/dp/B00 2G9TWUM Sure, you can get a DVD for less than a dollar, but for the prices above, Id just get the flash drive and the ease of use that comes with that. Cheers Ken From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 9:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anti-virus boot-up disks? They are lots more expensive than CD/DVDs, however. Not that this is automatically a non-starter, but it speaks to Mr. Cook's earlier point. I'd sooner get a USB DVD drive, even though they are slightly less portable. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: There are USB sticks with a switch that is supposed to make them read-only until you flip the switch again. I don't know how that works or how well, but I know that there are flash drives with a write-protect switch on 'em. You can find 'em on NewEgg and probably elsewhere. I just checked on NewEgg to make sure I wasn't misremembering. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Did not and heres why I have yet to hear about any guaranteed way to make a USB drive unwriteable on any machine you plug it into short of having a manufacturer burn the data to one and ship it to you in which case youre paying 25x more for the same effect a non rewritable CD/DVD gives you. If anyone knows of a way to do it (and Im not talking about a reg hack on a machine or a program that disables the functionality on a computer) please share. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anti-virus boot-up disks? Thanks, anyone tried this on a USB stick? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent
RE: appremover
Well, I tried it yesterday on a private customer's system that had a version of Norton/Symantec on it and it seems to have gotten rid of it. :D From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: appremover amazingly, based on an 18th month contract I finished last April, the McAfee 8.7 Enterprise VirusScan installer included an uninstaller that did, in *most* cases, properly uninstall whatever major competing AV already installed. I did have to have them update their INI file to properly take care of SEP 11 ( back in early 2010 ) but no real issues after that not counting systems with munged permissions. YMMV On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard of it. But, knowing how difficult it can potentially get to remove an antivirus product, I have little faith in a product that claims to do it all for multiple vendors. I would rather get the remover from the vendor of what I want/need to remove. And I would only do that, if the normal uninstall routine failed to work. -- Espi On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:28 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Anyone ever used Appremover to get rid of an unwanted antivirus app? I know from past experience that getting rid of some antivirus apps is like pulling hen's teeth (Symantec/Norton in particular.) According to the review on CNET's download.com this program detects and completely gets rid of these antivirus/anti-malware apps so you can reinstall or install a new one. Since I'm probably going to be installing Vipre on a private client's PC this evening which currently has some sort of Symantec on it, I thought I'd try to find the Symantec uninstaller again. Imagine my surprise when I found mention of this product on Symantec's forums as a replacement for Symantec's proprietary uninstaller tool. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anyone deal with cannon scanner, and failed scans to pc?
Retrevo? Try this: http://www.retrevo.com/support/Canon-5020-Copiers-manual/id/23385dj783/t/2/ John-AldrichThread-Count From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone deal with cannon scanner, and failed scans to pc? I am trying to look for user guide or manaual, but I don't see it. I looked here http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/office/b_w_imagerunner_copiers/imageru nner_5000_6000_5000i_5020_5020i_6020_6020i/imagerunner_5000i#Features and in google, but no idea. Any idea were Else I can look for this user guide or manaual? Thanks On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Does the PC need Cannon Network Scan Gear software, or can it be used to a SMB share. I am not onsite, I am troubleshooting remotely.. Canon Image Runner 5020 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Local Scan to folder... On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: That is scan to email if I remember correctly or do they have the local scan setup? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:11 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: A) Canon Image Runner 5020 B) Connected via Network. I am going to look at logs soon. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Any error messages in the scanner logs? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:00 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Since installed user been able to scan, just yesterday user is unable to scan documents to her pc. Pc can ping and access the webinterface of the scanner, but scan jobs are not working ?? What model scanner? What version and Service Pack of Windows? What browser and version? Explain unable to scan documents. What steps are you doing, what is the expected behavior, what is the actual behavior? Any error message? Does the problem happen for the same user account on other PCs? Does the problem happen for different user accounts on the same PC? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Reconfiguring an existing email on a Blackberry
Yeah. He's using ATT's BIS, I'm guessing. Actually he wants to read mail on his Blackberry, but delete it using Outlook. He doesn't need to save copies of sent messages on the server. He does NOT want to have to do any maintenance. It's a hassle for him (senior admin, one of the corporate owners) to log in every few weeks to delete his sent messages, deleted items, etc. I will advise him to just find an ATT store and have them delete the email account and set it back up from scratch as a POP3 account. Thanks. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reconfiguring an existing email on a Blackberry Have to have BIS...not a server though. BIS = Blackberry Internet Service. If he's getting mail, he's got BIS. So does he never access his mailbox with anything other than BB? If so then he should be able to go into his mail client and delete Sent Items from there. IIRC it's also an option on the device to delete messages on the server and device. But I expect he doesn't want to actually have to do any maintenance and likes to keep sent items Just in case. I echo Gary's statement about contacting the carrier support for this. - WJR On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:59, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: One of my users has a Blackberry through ATT which is configured to check his email through IMAP. However, that leads to email building up in his sent folder on the server (which we do not own or control and for which we pay by the MB stored, so I limit the email folder size.) I have tried to figure out how to reconfigure his email on the blackberry to use POP3 instead of IMAP, but I can't seem to get it to allow me to change it. I'm not sure which Blackberry he has, other than it's one of the newer ones with the touch-screen and the keyboard the slides out at the bottom of the phone. I *did* Google that specific question. I also tried to set up a new email account on his phone, but the phone won't let me as that email address is already configured on there. Should I just tell him to go to the ATT store and have them set it up from scratch or is there an easy way to do this? We do NOT have a BES/BIS server and no plans to get one at this time. Also, as previously mentioned, we do NOT run our own mail server. John-AldrichThread-Count ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
appremover
Anyone ever used Appremover to get rid of an unwanted antivirus app? I know from past experience that getting rid of some antivirus apps is like pulling hen's teeth (Symantec/Norton in particular.) According to the review on CNET's download.com this program detects and completely gets rid of these antivirus/anti-malware apps so you can reinstall or install a new one. Since I'm probably going to be installing Vipre on a private client's PC this evening which currently has some sort of Symantec on it, I thought I'd try to find the Symantec uninstaller again. Imagine my surprise when I found mention of this product on Symantec's forums as a replacement for Symantec's proprietary uninstaller tool. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Email Problem
I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Email Problem
Hmm... interesting. Ok. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem I read 'em. Stay off the mushrooms. On 6 September 2011 15:54, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you
RE: Email Problem
Yep. That's exactly the case. OL2k7 at work and KMail at home. I think there were some recent updates to KMail, and those updates might have an impact on the compatibility between Outlook 2007 and Kmail. *sigh* Gotta love when open-source stuff breaks the closed-source stuff. :D -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I can see the body of the messages you sent from home. I assume you use Outlook 2007 at work, and KMail at home. I am reading your messages at work using Outlook 2010. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 06 September 2011 15:54 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
RE: Email Problem
Nothin' but a little alcohol. :D I'm using a linux-based email client at home and Outlook 2007 at work. I'm pretty sure there were some recent updates to my email client at home and I suspect that might have affected the way Outlook is seeing the messages. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Did you take any medication over the weekend? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Email Problem
On Tue September 6 2011, you wrote: I read 'em. Stay off the mushrooms. On 6 September 2011 15:54, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is:Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Testing some tweaks. Sorry for any inconvenience. Thanks! -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Email Problem
I think I may have resolved the strangeness...I just sent a test reply and was able to see the body. Thanks! -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem Nothin' but a little alcohol. :D I'm using a linux-based email client at home and Outlook 2007 at work. I'm pretty sure there were some recent updates to my email client at home and I suspect that might have affected the way Outlook is seeing the messages. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Did you take any medication over the weekend? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
RE: Email Problem
Well, I think it may have been an HTML issue... :D I should know better than to use HTML email anyway. :D -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I have seen that feature in Outlook 2003 before, when the emails where HTML formatted. Normally when that happened my calendar entries would appear on the calendar but be blank. Opening the email to read and it appeared blank, but hit forward or reply and the contents would appear (or at least some of the content appeared, long emails would still get truncated). In our environment it was when some patches has been rolled out via Radia. Either a reboot, or re-registering Word/Outlook fixed it, iirc. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 06 September 2011 16:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I think I may have resolved the strangeness...I just sent a test reply and was able to see the body. Thanks! -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem Nothin' but a little alcohol. :D I'm using a linux-based email client at home and Outlook 2007 at work. I'm pretty sure there were some recent updates to my email client at home and I suspect that might have affected the way Outlook is seeing the messages. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Did you take any medication over the weekend? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
RE: Email Problem
Who do you think you are??? Captain Planet? :D -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem and knowing is half the battle. John Aldrich wrote: Well, I think it may have been an HTML issue... :D I should know better than to use HTML email anyway. :D -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I have seen that feature in Outlook 2003 before, when the emails where HTML formatted. Normally when that happened my calendar entries would appear on the calendar but be blank. Opening the email to read and it appeared blank, but hit forward or reply and the contents would appear (or at least some of the content appeared, long emails would still get truncated). In our environment it was when some patches has been rolled out via Radia. Either a reboot, or re-registering Word/Outlook fixed it, iirc. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 06 September 2011 16:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I think I may have resolved the strangeness...I just sent a test reply and was able to see the body. Thanks! -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem Nothin' but a little alcohol. :D I'm using a linux-based email client at home and Outlook 2007 at work. I'm pretty sure there were some recent updates to my email client at home and I suspect that might have affected the way Outlook is seeing the messages. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Did you take any medication over the weekend? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is:Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Email Problem
Both. I didn't have a TV growing up... :D I recognized it from a TV show, but couldn't recall which one. I took a stab in the dark. Guess I missed the mark. :D -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem wow... That line is from GI Joe, not Captain Planet. Are we really that old, or are you that young? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 9/6/2011 8:46 AM Who do you think you are??? Captain Planet? :D -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem and knowing is half the battle. John Aldrich wrote: Well, I think it may have been an HTML issue... :D I should know better than to use HTML email anyway. :D -Original Message- From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I have seen that feature in Outlook 2003 before, when the emails where HTML formatted. Normally when that happened my calendar entries would appear on the calendar but be blank. Opening the email to read and it appeared blank, but hit forward or reply and the contents would appear (or at least some of the content appeared, long emails would still get truncated). In our environment it was when some patches has been rolled out via Radia. Either a reboot, or re-registering Word/Outlook fixed it, iirc. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 06 September 2011 16:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I think I may have resolved the strangeness...I just sent a test reply and was able to see the body. Thanks! -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem Nothin' but a little alcohol. :D I'm using a linux-based email client at home and Outlook 2007 at work. I'm pretty sure there were some recent updates to my email client at home and I suspect that might have affected the way Outlook is seeing the messages. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Did you take any medication over the weekend? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I replied from home this weekend, but when I got here, and looked at the messages I sent out, the bodies were blank. Does anyone else see that, or am I hallucinating? From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm - WJR 2011/9/3 John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is:Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who
Re: Email Problem
On Sun September 4 2011, you wrote: You do realize, of course, that this error doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your outbound mail server...right? Now then...from what I can garner from your typically sparse data...If you one-off these messages it works OK, it's only when he bulk mails...so do the end recipients ever get the message after waiting 72 hours, or have you never been able to wait that long? Do they ever get duplicates after 72 hours? How many recipients are we talking about anyway? 100, 1000, ONE MILLION USERS? Inquiring minds want to know. As to your salient question, where to start looking: How internet email works: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp.htm Understanding SMTP Error Messages: http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm Thanks. I do understand how internet email works. I used to work for an ISP and got all that explained to me. As for the number of email addresses...umm... maybe 10-12 emails. As far as I know they never receive the emails, but that's a very good question. I'll have to investigate. I created a distribution list with those particular email addresses on it and sent a test message to that distribution list. Virtually everyone received the email within 24 hours. There are a few stragglers (I got one reply yesterday several days after I sent the original email. I'm tempted to think that was just a case of the user not checking their email regularly.) So, it's not a case of a message to one of those users getting through, it's a case of my test message to that distribution list that I created getting through. Unfortunately the sales manager in question was not in the office this past week. When he gets back in I'll see if he's got a distribution list and see if maybe there's something wrong with the distribution list he's got (assuming he's got one.) As for the terseness of my original message, I don't want to burden the list with useless information and I didn't see how listing the email addresses was going to help, although looking back, I suppose I could have munged the email addresses or at least given an indication of how many there were. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Email Problem
On Fri September 2 2011, you wrote: Research the specific SMTP status code and message you are receiving back. Delayed can mean different things. You/he received a specific error message. Be specific with us, or look it up. All I have is the following: quote Warning: message 1QyPNV-xd-UY delayed 72 hours This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 72 hours on the queue on SMTPSERVER The message identifier is: 1QyPNV-xd-UY The subject of the message is: National Account-Paychex The date of the message is:Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:33:24 -0400 The addresses to which the message has not yet been delivered are: [snip list of email addresses] No action is required on your part. Delivery attempts will continue for some time, and this warning may be repeated at intervals if the message remains undelivered. Eventually the mail delivery software will give up, and when that happens, the message will be returned to you. /quote Note that I created an Outlook Distribution list that contains all the email addresses in that list of recipients who had not yet received the message and sent them a message. Within 24 hours, all of them had confirmed that they had received the message from me. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Email Problem
Yes. Going through our system (actually our ISP's servers, to which I have limited access.) John-AldrichThread-Count From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Problem I'm not clear from your email whether he's sending the mail through your mail system? If so, start with the logs. If not, run. _ From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 02 September 2011 6:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Email Problem I have one user, a sales manager, who occasionally has problems sending email to a large number of people. The email goes out fine, but then 48 hours or so later he gets a message that the email he sent out to all those people was delayed. Not every time, just some of the time. Outlook 2007 (I think.could be 2003) and POP3 email for everyone. Not everyone on the sales manager's list is local, in fact almost all are spread out around the country, and when I email the same group of people from my desktop it works without a single glitch. That being said, most of the time his emails go through without a hitch either. Any suggestions where to start looking? This has happened in the past and all I have been able to do is just shrug my shoulders and tell him I was unable to reproduce the problem and if I can't reproduce it, it's darn difficult to troubleshoot. John-AldrichThread-Count ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpgimage003.jpgimage004.jpg
RE: Email Problem
WHAT Linux client? He's got Windows XP on his laptop and Outlook 2007. The server is not in-house (I wish!) Rather our ISP is hosting our email and so we use their server. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Why isn't he using the Linux client rather than the Outlook server to send the message? This might be the issue right there. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:20 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I have one user, a sales manager, who occasionally has problems sending email to a large number of people. The email goes out fine, but then 48 hours or so later he gets a message that the email he sent out to all those people was delayed. Not every time, just some of the time. Outlook 2007 (I think.could be 2003) and POP3 email for everyone. Not everyone on the sales manager's list is local, in fact almost all are spread out around the country, and when I email the same group of people from my desktop it works without a single glitch. That being said, most of the time his emails go through without a hitch either. Any suggestions where to start looking? This has happened in the past and all I have been able to do is just shrug my shoulders and tell him I was unable to reproduce the problem and if I can't reproduce it, it's darn difficult to troubleshoot. John-AldrichThread-Count ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpgimage003.jpgimage004.jpg
RE: Email Problem
I'll check with our ISP and see if they can shed light on things. Not real hopeful, but thanks. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem So what you're saying is the server is out-house? that might explain the issues you are experiencing. Sometime the logs are not flushed and you can lose data. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: WHAT Linux client? He's got Windows XP on his laptop and Outlook 2007. The server is not in-house (I wish!) Rather our ISP is hosting our email and so we use their server. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Email Problem Why isn't he using the Linux client rather than the Outlook server to send the message? This might be the issue right there. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:20 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I have one user, a sales manager, who occasionally has problems sending email to a large number of people. The email goes out fine, but then 48 hours or so later he gets a message that the email he sent out to all those people was delayed. Not every time, just some of the time. Outlook 2007 (I think.could be 2003) and POP3 email for everyone. Not everyone on the sales manager's list is local, in fact almost all are spread out around the country, and when I email the same group of people from my desktop it works without a single glitch. That being said, most of the time his emails go through without a hitch either. Any suggestions where to start looking? This has happened in the past and all I have been able to do is just shrug my shoulders and tell him I was unable to reproduce the problem and if I can't reproduce it, it's darn difficult to troubleshoot. John-AldrichThread-Count ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage005.jpgimage006.jpgimage007.jpgimage008.jpgimage009.jpgimage010.jpg
RE: Placement and spacing of server racks
I can't say much about my current situation as we only have one rack. However, at a previous position, we had a *bunch* of racks literally side-by-side jammed so close together you couldn't fit a sheet of paper between them. Of course, those racks had open bottoms with forced-air cooling coming up from the raised floor (about 6 or so off ground level, presumably for cabling and ventilation.) Granted these were running older servers (old Compaq Proliants - quad PII Xeons, IIRC in some of them) so the cooling might not have been as critical as it is with newer CPUs. That being said, it was almost always cold enough to hang meat in there (OK, not really.. more like about 60-65 degrees F.) YMMV. I look forward to what others say John-AldrichThread-Count From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: Augusta_Kimble/as...@aspca.org Subject: Placement and spacing of server racks Greetings! Our server room is finally getting some badly needed upgrades (including the removal of a partial wall, more power, and a real server room cooling unit). We currently have three server racks. Once this renovation project is complete, we will be adding two fairly full server racks. We are hoping to have these upgrades keep the room adequate for another 5 years. So, depending on the recommendations of rack spacing, it may be necessary to take out another wall and expand into what is currently an office. So, the questions are: 1. How closely together do you space your server racks? That is, how much space between each rack? 2. How far out from the walls to you have them (both for air flow and for rear access)? I believe the current dimensions of the room would allow 7 racks (and we are already claiming space for 5) along one wall and with room for another 1-2 on another wall. Your recommendations may force us to re-consider. Thank you... -- richard ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: The U in UPS stands for...?
That's just WRONG! J John-AldrichThread-Count From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The U in UPS stands for...? I have a 1500AVR under my desk at %work%, and I just obtain two 1500VA (model CP1500PFCLCD) units at home. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: So far, I'm liking CyberPower devices. What model(s)? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: The U in UPS stands for...?
Hmm. What's your address again, Webster? ;D John-AldrichThread-Count From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The U in UPS stands for...? I have five 1500VA units and one 1000VA unit in my home office. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The U in UPS stands for...? That's just WRONG! J John-AldrichThread-Count From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The U in UPS stands for...? I have a 1500AVR under my desk at %work%, and I just obtain two 1500VA (model CP1500PFCLCD) units at home. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: So far, I'm liking CyberPower devices. What model(s)? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage003.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpgimage006.jpg
RE: The U in UPS stands for...?
ROFL! :D John-AldrichThread-Count From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The U in UPS stands for...? I know where he lives actually...lots of places for bodies. - WJR On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:54, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Hmm. What's your address again, Webster? ;D John-AldrichThread-Count From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The U in UPS stands for...? I have five 1500VA units and one 1000VA unit in my home office. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The U in UPS stands for...? That's just WRONG! J John-AldrichThread-Count From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The U in UPS stands for...? I have a 1500AVR under my desk at %work%, and I just obtain two 1500VA (model CP1500PFCLCD) units at home. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: So far, I'm liking CyberPower devices. What model(s)? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpgimage003.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpg
RE: The U in UPS stands for...?
Oh, I agree. I was just thinking that TWO 1500 VA UPSs was too many for one person and ASB needed to share the wealth J John-AldrichThread-Count From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The U in UPS stands for...? John, trust me, have your PC or at least one PC with all your management tools and comfort zone on a UPS. It results in a lot less running around like a headless chicken in the event of a power failure. _ From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 01 September 2011 6:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The U in UPS stands for...? That's just WRONG! J John-AldrichThread-Count From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The U in UPS stands for...? I have a 1500AVR under my desk at %work%, and I just obtain two 1500VA (model CP1500PFCLCD) units at home. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: So far, I'm liking CyberPower devices. What model(s)? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage003.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpgimage006.jpg
RE: When DNS for your ISP goes down...
I concur with the suggestion for someone like DynDNS. At least with them it's free, or at least it was for us. ISTR there is a certain amount of hosts over which it requires a paid (inexpensive) account. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: When DNS for your ISP goes down... Thank you for your replies. We will be checking out the DNS hosting companies recommended here along with our registrar's DNS. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Mike Sullivan neog...@gmail.com wrote: I do actually have a question here. Was there anything I could have done to get us up and running? At that stage in the game? Unlikely. But now that you've learned the lesson, you can take steps to prevent a re-occurrence. DNS is designed with distributed redundancy in mind. Getting a dedicated DNS hosting company, as others have suggested, is a good idea. That way your names are not tied to your feed, your web server, or anything else. It makes switching all those much easier, and a dedicated host is less likely to screw up like this. Many registrars include basic DNS hosting with your registration. Run a nameserver of your own. Or more than one, if you have multiple sites/feeds. You can slave it to the hosting company's nameservers, or some DNS hosts offer slave service packages. List your nameserver(s) along with the hosting company's servers in the registration delegation. Now you've got multiple companies, sites, servers, and likely even DNS implementations serving your records. For example, at our local Linux User Group, our co-lo'ed server is the master nameserver, but we also get slave service from Dyn Inc (http://www.dyn.com/). So our registered nameservers look like: VIPRE Anti-phishing found a known bad URL in your email message. It was deleted or quarantined, depending on your settings, and replaced with this message. The anti-phishing setting is located in FileSettings under the Email Protection tab.. ns4.mydyndns.org. ns5.mydyndns.org. ns2.mydyndns.org. ns3.mydyndns.org. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Looking for cable
I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Looking for cable
Yeah Could be, but at this point, the keyboard and mouse are cheaper. :D I guess I'll have a look-see at what KVMs are available. My windows machine is currently using a USB-PS2 adapter as it's USB-only. I suspect my Linux box wouldn't care whether it was USB-only or not. Have to try it and see, I guess. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable)
Do you guys like IOGear? I found this on NewEgg and it looks pretty good... had 4 eggs out of 5 and 194 ratings. Sounds pretty good to me. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Looking for cable
Yeah... After the suggestion to chuck the old Belkin KVM, I got to thinking why not. Any particular brand of KVM y'all like? Belkin used to be the name to buy for prosumer stuff. Are they still the brand to beat? From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable +1 PS/2 It's a great way to lock up your machine. That was it's selling point, right? On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Mike Sullivan neog...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable)
Whoops...forgot the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817399001 -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) Do you guys like IOGear? I found this on NewEgg and it looks pretty good... had 4 eggs out of 5 and 194 ratings. Sounds pretty good to me. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable)
Yeah...Not bad. I like the idea of replaceable cables in case the cable goes bad...although I suppose that if it goes out within 3 years, they fix/replace it. After that, just replace it. :D -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) This is the one my buddy is running: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817107419 I think you hit CTRL-CTRL to change it, or something like that. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) Whoops...forgot the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817399001 -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) Do you guys like IOGear? I found this on NewEgg and it looks pretty good... had 4 eggs out of 5 and 194 ratings. Sounds pretty good to me. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable)
Thanks. I went ahead and bought that (4-port) model. I figure if it tears up within 3 years, they'll fix/replace it. If it lasts more than 3 years (probably) I've got my money's worth out of it. :D -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) This is the one my buddy is running: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817107419 I think you hit CTRL-CTRL to change it, or something like that. Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) Whoops...forgot the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817399001 -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) Do you guys like IOGear? I found this on NewEgg and it looks pretty good... had 4 eggs out of 5 and 194 ratings. Sounds pretty good to me. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable)
Great! Glad to hear that. Makes me feel better about ordering it. :D From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KVM (WAS RE: Looking for cable) I have a 2-port and a 4-port IOGear KVM with PS/2 connections. Both have worked flawlessly for years. Not that I'd want one in my server room, but for desktop configs they've been great. Roger Wright ___ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:48 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like IOGear? I found this on NewEgg and it looks pretty good... had 4 eggs out of 5 and 194 ratings. Sounds pretty good to me. From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for cable I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such adapter as I am trying to find. Thanks -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: How to determine a host's IP range
Looks like it's hosted by Akamai, which might explain why you can't get an answer from the folks running the course. From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How to determine a host's IP range Do a dig or nslookup on the host; the results will contain all the currently published IP addresses for it. -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Thomas Mullins [mailto:tsmull...@wise.k12.va.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 08:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: How to determine a host's IP range Good morning everyone, Our students have an online class that uses a lot of videos. When ran through the general student proxy, the quality of these videos is very bad. In the past when we have these issues, we would route traffic to these hosts out a NAT gateway. Then we would tell IE not to proxy for that host. This may not be the best way, but it works for our situation. This particular host media.pearsoncmg.com uses a round robin type of DNS. If you do a DNS lookup today, you may get 64.211.144.100. Then another class will get something like 69.31.16.217. We have contacted the people who run the course, and they will not give us the IP range. Is there a way I can get that information across the net? Thanks Shane ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dell Contact
Yeah. I wish I still had my first rep...she was great! Haven't had much to do with my current rep. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Contact Maybe some good news. Finding a Dallas focused rep should be easier, as they changed their account management to a geographically based system. Of course, I'm not in Dallas, and I got shafted in the transition, in multiple ways... Moved from a great rep to a bad rep (oh so horrible), and have been basically told that I need to use the Premier site better. So, my recommendation is to find a rep tell him the quantity you're planning to purchase, get premier site access and do it yourself. Run it through the rep to get discounts on shipping or other possible freebies based on the size of the order (I often get free shipping on notebooks when I do my bulk purchase). On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Sherry Abercrombie sabercrom...@nhdallas.com wrote: I know, they change weekly almost……… From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Contact grin You haven’t been around here long have you? ☺ Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Contact Anyone have a good Dell contact for the Dallas/Fort Worth area. We’re looking to make a substantial laptop purchase and I need to talk to someone about that. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Earthquake!!!!!!
I did not feel a thing here in north-central Georgia mountains. From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Earthquake!! felt a little tremor down in Roanoke... On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: It’s centered just 25 miles east of me. Yes, I felt it. ☺ http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/usc0005ild.php Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Earthquake!! Anyone on east coast feel it? We did here in Pennsylvania. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Looking for web site developing companies
Try Netahawk, Dubuque and Packett. They have two offices in Virginia: RICHMOND OFFICE One East Cary Street Richmond, VA 23219 804-783-8140 / 800-847-2674 F 804-783-0098 ROANOKE OFFICE 410 South Jefferson Street Roanoke, VA 24011 540-345-5403 / 866-677-9817 F 540-345-5414 They do fairly complex sites. Granted they are not SP-based, but still pretty nice. They don't work cheap, though. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for web site developing companies Hi Folks, I'm looking for recommendations for companies that do web site development. We maintain a number of web sites here for our various .org sites. I and my team don't have the time to completely redesign our sites. We can maintain and update, but I'd prefer to use a specialized service to assist with design and occasional support once design is implemented. We are implementing an internal Share Point portal, so I'd prefer a SP-based design since we already use SP. We are in Virginia, are state and non-profit. If anyone has any recommendations, please let me know. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Why not failwords?
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this. From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why not failwords? I still think passwords have to die. There are better options. From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com] Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Why not failwords? I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones. But, I wonder… Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few scenarios I can think of off the top of my head: [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword. Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm. [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message on your cell phone. [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc. Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any… Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace Electronics Check out the new Crane Aerospace Electronics Newsroom! Like us on Facebook! We value your opinion! How may we serve you better? Please click the survey link to tell us how we are doing: http://www.craneae.com/surveys/satisfaction.htm Your feedback is of the utmost importance to us. Thank you for your time. Crane Aerospace Electronics Confidentiality Statement: The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Strange Outlook problem
I have ONE user who's complaining that his email (POP3) in Outlook is delayed by a day, but ONLY from the work POP server. His personal email, he says, is NOT delayed and he can log into webmail and see it and it's coming to his Smart Phone on time, but Outlook is delayed by a day. Unfortunately, this is one of those field users who I have never actually met in person and since he's a sales rep, he's almost never at home. I did ask him to call me when he's at home so I can use TeamViewer (thank you whoever it was who recommended that!) to log into his computer and see what's going on. I've never heard of such a strange problem before. Have any of you guys seen this sort of thing before? I am really not even sure where to start looking for the cause of his problem, especially since no one else is reporting problems (myself included -- all my email is on-time.) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Outlook problem
Hmm... you think that's all it is? Hopefully that'll be the problem and it'll be an easy fix. :D I didn't even think of that as my email is always expanded by default. :D From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Outlook problem Tell him to hit the little plus arrow next to Date: Today. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Strange Outlook problem I have ONE user who's complaining that his email (POP3) in Outlook is delayed by a day, but ONLY from the work POP server. His personal email, he says, is NOT delayed and he can log into webmail and see it and it's coming to his Smart Phone on time, but Outlook is delayed by a day. Unfortunately, this is one of those field users who I have never actually met in person and since he's a sales rep, he's almost never at home. I did ask him to call me when he's at home so I can use TeamViewer (thank you whoever it was who recommended that!) to log into his computer and see what's going on. I've never heard of such a strange problem before. Have any of you guys seen this sort of thing before? I am really not even sure where to start looking for the cause of his problem, especially since no one else is reporting problems (myself included -- all my email is on-time.) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Outlook problem
Messages *received* are supposedly being delayed on his home PC. HE has a smart phone and it downloads the email on-time and Webmail (on the server, of course) shows the email in a timely fashion as well. I wonder if maybe the solution isn't as easy as N Parr suggested. I sure hope so. :D From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Outlook problem Is the email he sends delayed, or the email he receives delayed? My guess is his pop or smtp connection is being blocked by a firewall, but when he moves locations, its finally being accepting and the messages go through. Sam From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Outlook problem Tell him to hit the little plus arrow next to Date: Today. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Strange Outlook problem I have ONE user who's complaining that his email (POP3) in Outlook is delayed by a day, but ONLY from the work POP server. His personal email, he says, is NOT delayed and he can log into webmail and see it and it's coming to his Smart Phone on time, but Outlook is delayed by a day. Unfortunately, this is one of those field users who I have never actually met in person and since he's a sales rep, he's almost never at home. I did ask him to call me when he's at home so I can use TeamViewer (thank you whoever it was who recommended that!) to log into his computer and see what's going on. I've never heard of such a strange problem before. Have any of you guys seen this sort of thing before? I am really not even sure where to start looking for the cause of his problem, especially since no one else is reporting problems (myself included -- all my email is on-time.) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Outlook problem
Yeah... VERY true... as Greg House, M.D. says Everybody lies.:D I'll have to check and see when he gets home and I get a chance to log into his machine and see what's up. -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Outlook problem True, maybe he's sorting them in to another folder or it is a totally different profile. He didn't say. I like to apply KISS methodology first. Besides, we only have the word of the user and John at this point saying his personal email isn't delayed. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Outlook problem On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: Tell him to hit the little plus arrow next to Date: Today. That wouldn't explain why his other email account gets mail on time. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Outlook problem
Thanks, Ben. That's a very good idea. I'll do that when I get access to his machine. This user is (like most) not very computer-literate. I don't trust him to be able to follow instructions. :D -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Outlook problem On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:15 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I have ONE user who's complaining that his email (POP3) in Outlook is delayed by a day, but ONLY from the work POP server. Have him forward a copy of one of the messages **WITH FULL HEADERS** to you and the examine said headers to figure out what's going on. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Looking for Position
That sucks! Best of luck finding something! From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Looking for Position Everyone, I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at don.gu...@comcast.net. Thanks, Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Looking for Position
Yeah... I was wondering too! :D From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for Position ROFLMAO... I kept trying to figure out how that made sense. - WJR On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:53, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: Sorry hit reply on wrong email. -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for Position No you will get that when you port your # at the store. Has to be at the same time. We will reimburse for that also. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for Position That sucks! Best of luck finding something! From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Looking for Position Everyone, I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at don.gu...@comcast.net. Thanks, Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: DHCP Server and multiple subnets
I'm no expert, but we did that at a previous job, and I think the secret was the gateway it was coming from. I didn't actually set it up, but that's what I recall being the key. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: DHCP Server and multiple subnets Hey list, quick question for ya as my googlefu is not coming up with concrete answers: Can a single DHCP server serve up two separate subnets? How does the DHCP server decide which subnet to place the client (besides reservations)? Does it just auto-magically figure it out based on where the broadcast is coming from, or is there other trickery involved? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Cloud Based AV
They have some nice tools though... I'm thinking HJT here. 'Course they didn't come up with that, they just bought the company that did. :D From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cloud Based AV I left Trend years ago (~2006) for that very reason, and they've only gotten worse, IMO. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: You know, Im so sick of Trend I could scream. I dont think their products are half of what they used to be and they havent really brought much to the table of late. We seem to be suffering more and more malware infections that Trend just skips over. We have Intune in a small 10 unit deployment right now and it finds things that Trend just glossed over. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cloud Based AV Have you contacted Trend or checked their KB? I know I once had to reset something on the Trend server to make sure they still reported into the console even though they were set to get updates from Trend (Smart scan) instead of the local server. Dave From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cloud Based AV Right. Thats what we use today. The problem is that reporting gets all messed up over time because nobody is phoning home. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Cloud Based AV Trend does this too... On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Vipre? If I'm not mistaken you can set it so that the device will look to the cloud if it can't connect to the mother ship! On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: Other than MS with Intune, who else is offering a cloud based corporate AV solution. With so many remote users that rarely report back to the mother ship, I want something out in the cloud to keep them up to date. Thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dell BMC
Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the management workstation to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to connect. Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC. It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell BMC Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the server so I can get them to help me set it up. I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for configure remote access came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out. If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess I'll give Dell a call eventually. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dell BMC
Michael, et al: Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has extended the commands for BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC John, did you google ipmi windows like I suggested yesterday? The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were free? There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely). And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is free too. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC You're not really in a position to criticise. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the management workstation to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to connect. Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC. It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell BMC Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the server so I can get them to help me set it up. I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for configure remote access came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out. If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess I'll give Dell a call eventually. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
RE: Dell BMC
Dear Ms. Hensala: I AM TRYING to figure it out. I find the verbiage in the instructions highly confusing. As I mentioned, the Dell info speaks at one point of using Hyperterm to access the BMC and then other times it speaks of using OpenManage. I don't know if it's one or the other or whether it's both or what. I was *hoping* that someone here had used it before and could speak to how to configure it. Since no one here seems to have any first-hand knowledge of how to use it, I withdraw my question. I'm SO sorry to have bothered you. Back to the regular flame wars. Asbestos suit on! From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC I think at some point one has to take responsibility for becoming qualified to do the work they are being paid to perform and stop asking to be hand fed information. This is largely an integrity issue. We are all busy and we all have the same amount of time. You can choose how to spend it - and saying we are too busy to learn is a huge cop out. Saying there is no $$ for training is a cop out as there are abundant free resources. At some point you have to wonder about motivation and ability. I have not and would not attack like a hyena but that does not mean that I do not grow increasingly weary and annoyed with the lack of initiative. Shauna Hensala Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Dell BMC From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Perhaps. Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for it. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: From where Im sitting it is, or as good as. Reminds me of a pack of Hyenas sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow. Personally I think its plain wrong but thats just my view. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC It's not every single post. Just sayin'. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Gary, While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy getting old. Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes? Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com 08/03/11 8:51 AM I'm not exactly a dummy though. Can we get a vote on that? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Michael, et al: Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has extended the commands for BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC John, did you google ipmi windows like I suggested yesterday? The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were free? There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely). And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is free too. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC You're not really in a position to criticise. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
RE: Dell BMC
No, I didn't. Thanks for pointing that out. -Original Message- From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC John, did you see the reply in thread from John Hornbuckle? He included some pretty straight-forward instructions that he said worked for him. Quoted below for convenience: Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some way to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to actually do it. The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed on it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here: C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc (Or wherever you installed it.) Then run: ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your password, although I think you may be able to put that in the command line as well. If the server is off, use this to turn it on: ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice. The first time I run it, I get: Authentication type NONE not supported Activate Session command failed Error: Unable to establish LAN session Unable to get Chassis Power Status Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to me every single time. John DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC Dear Ms. Hensala: I AM TRYING to figure it out. I find the verbiage in the instructions highly confusing. As I mentioned, the Dell info speaks at one point of using Hyperterm to access the BMC and then other times it speaks of using OpenManage. I don't know if it's one or the other or whether it's both or what. I was *hoping* that someone here had used it before and could speak to how to configure it. Since no one here seems to have any first-hand knowledge of how to use it, I withdraw my question. I'm SO sorry to have bothered you. Back to the regular flame wars. Asbestos suit on! From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC I think at some point one has to take responsibility for becoming qualified to do the work they are being paid to perform and stop asking to be hand fed information. This is largely an integrity issue. We are all busy and we all have the same amount of time. You can choose how to spend it - and saying we are too busy to learn is a huge cop out. Saying there is no $$ for training is a cop out as there are abundant free resources. At some point you have to wonder about motivation and ability. I have not and would not attack like a hyena but that does not mean that I do not grow increasingly weary and annoyed with the lack of initiative. Shauna Hensala Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Dell BMC From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Perhaps. Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for it. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: From where I'm sitting it is, or as good as. Reminds me of a pack of Hyena's sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow. Personally I think it's plain wrong but that's just my view. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC It's not every single post. Just sayin'. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Gary, While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy getting old. Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes? Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com 08/03/11 8:51 AM I'm not exactly a dummy though. Can we get a vote on that? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Michael, et al: Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has extended the commands for BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me
RE: Dell BMC
John, thank you! A million times, THANK YOU! Dell's instructions didn't make a heck of a lot of sense and then the hassle I got from some folks here when I tried to get help didn't make things any less confusing! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some way to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to actually do it. The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed on it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here: C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc (Or wherever you installed it.) Then run: ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your password, although I think you may be able to put that in the command line as well. If the server is off, use this to turn it on: ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice. The first time I run it, I get: Authentication type NONE not supported Activate Session command failed Error: Unable to establish LAN session Unable to get Chassis Power Status Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to me every single time. John -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC Michael, et al: Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has extended the commands for BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC John, did you google ipmi windows like I suggested yesterday? The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were free? There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely). And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is free too. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC You're not really in a position to criticise. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the management workstation to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell
RE: Error message in logs
Ahh... I wondered what OneNote was for. :D Now I know. I don't have it on my system, but I know some of the systems with the more expensive versions of Office have it. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Great suggestion. I use MS OneNote to do just that. Every time I run across an issue that I have not seen, I try to put it into an OneNote notebook. That way I can search. There is no effort learning how to use it, because you can print directly to OneNote. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs For the record, I found the error with a little more searching. It turns out that I appear to have had a corrupted Local GPO Database, and simply renaming the old one and creating a new one fixed it. Thanks. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs You should verify that before making any assumptions. Are you familiar with the expressions that assumptions make an ass out of you and me? ( ass / u / me ) This is an expression that Systems Administrators live by. Learn it, live it, love it. Its bad ju-ju to come to a support list with unverified assumptions. Do your due diligence before posting questions and answers that aren't rooted in your own facts. -- Espi On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:43 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting
RE: Error message in logs
Thanks. I do have a PDF writer installed. I never thought about that. That's a very good point. I, too, believe that Google is your friend. I try to use it as much as possible, but sometimes you have to know *exactly* the correct phrase to search or you won't get any useful results. *shrug* YMMV, but that's how I rock. I will start doing things like printing web pages to PDF that way I'll have them for future reference. From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs John, Take a look at the TechNet subscription. IT will have working copies of most Microsoft software. The cost is $250 for the plus (I think). You will truly benefit by having it. That way if you want to *test* OneNote, you can. Also how does your company purchase it's Office licenses? YOU don't have to share that info, but you could update that to include OneNote. Another option would be to install a PDF writer on your system (there are free ones). Write out you notes with Word, WordPad or notepad then print to the PDF. Not as slick as OneNote, but it does the same thing. I'll often send solutions that I see here to my notebook for later review. The one thing I teach my IT classes is that you cannot know everything, but if you can find the answers you can look like you do. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ahh... I wondered what OneNote was for. :D Now I know. I don't have it on my system, but I know some of the systems with the more expensive versions of Office have it. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Great suggestion. I use MS OneNote to do just that. Every time I run across an issue that I have not seen, I try to put it into an OneNote notebook. That way I can search. There is no effort learning how to use it, because you can print directly to OneNote. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs For the record, I found the error with a little more searching. It turns out that I appear to have had a corrupted Local GPO Database, and simply renaming the old one and creating a new one fixed it. Thanks. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs You should verify that before making any assumptions. Are you familiar with the expressions that assumptions make an ass out of you and me? ( ass / u / me ) This is an expression that Systems Administrators live by. Learn it, live it, love it. Its bad ju-ju to come to a support list with unverified assumptions. Do your due diligence before posting questions and answers that aren't rooted in your own facts. -- Espi On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:43 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error
Dell BMC
Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the server so I can get them to help me set it up. I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for configure remote access came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out. If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess I'll give Dell a call eventually. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dell BMC
On Tue August 2 2011, you wrote: What's the OS of the server? I had a similiar issue recently, although Dell has renamed the BMC to iDRAC, and needed to update the firmware via Service Console on my ESX 4.1 server. If it's windows, download the firmware update package for the BMC, apply it, reboot and see if that works out. Yeah... I already downloaded the latest firmware (I think) and applied it. I have not rebooted... doing that now. Server is 2003 R2. I'm not wanting to remote into it, the BMC supposedly has some sort of terminal emulation which will allow things like power-cycling or rebooting or shutting down the server w/o using the o/s. That's all I'm interested in doing. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dell BMC
On Tue August 2 2011, you wrote: I'm not familiar with the Dell one, but I am with the HP equivalent. First, are you sure there isn't an IP conflict? Unlikely, but possible. Second, try running nmap against the IP and see what ports it says are open. If you're not familiar with nmap, it's free, easy to install, and for basic use like this very simple. Pretty sure it's not a conflict. I'd have to change the IP and then check and see. :D I've got a couple linux boxen so I should be able to run NMAP against the IP and see what it shows. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Error message in logs
I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Error message in logs
I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Error message in logs
Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole diatribe, shall we???) From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
RE: Error message in logs
Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note
RE: Error message in logs
Ok. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing
RE: Error message in logs
I ran the command gpresult at the command prompt. Was that what I was supposed to do? Gpedit.msc didn't have a results wizard option, nor could I find one in ADUC. This is what I get for the applied group policy objects: Applied Group Policy Objects - Default Domain Controllers Policy Default Domain Policy Local Group Policy Also, where do I *find* these GPOs? Pretend I have no clue what I'm doing (because, really, I don't!!!) I have looked in ADUC and I don't see them. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained
RE: Error message in logs
Thanks. I will look at that. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Yo may have to sign up for that site. Do a google for the these terms: group policy tutorials you will find a lot of info. If you need help after you have done that let us know. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Try here: http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/tutorial/Microsoft-Group-Policy-Tu torial I used google and typed in Basic group policy tutorials -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs I ran the command gpresult at the command prompt. Was that what I was supposed to do? Gpedit.msc didn't have a results wizard option, nor could I find one in ADUC. This is what I get for the applied group policy objects: Applied Group Policy Objects - Default Domain Controllers Policy Default Domain Policy Local Group Policy Also, where do I *find* these GPOs? Pretend I have no clue what I'm doing (because, really, I don't!!!) I have looked in ADUC and I don't see them. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business
RE: Error message in logs
Rick, thanks for trying to help me learn. I will try to take the time to study this later. Unfortunately, right now I'm in crisis mode and need help figuring out how to fix this problem. I found the following article, but as I mentioned, it applies to Windows 2000 Server, not 2003, so it doesn't really apply. Can anyone enlighten me as to how to reapply the policies WITHOUT rebooting, please? -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Yo may have to sign up for that site. Do a google for the these terms: group policy tutorials you will find a lot of info. If you need help after you have done that let us know. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Try here: http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/tutorial/Microsoft-Group-Policy-Tu torial I used google and typed in Basic group policy tutorials -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs I ran the command gpresult at the command prompt. Was that what I was supposed to do? Gpedit.msc didn't have a results wizard option, nor could I find one in ADUC. This is what I get for the applied group policy objects: Applied Group Policy Objects - Default Domain Controllers Policy Default Domain Policy Local Group Policy Also, where do I *find* these GPOs? Pretend I have no clue what I'm doing (because, really, I don't!!!) I have looked in ADUC and I don't see them. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has
RE: Error message in logs
The website I mentioned, but failed to indicate, is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324383. As I said, this applies to Windows 2000, NOT 2003. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Yo may have to sign up for that site. Do a google for the these terms: group policy tutorials you will find a lot of info. If you need help after you have done that let us know. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Try here: http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/tutorial/Microsoft-Group-Policy-Tu torial I used google and typed in Basic group policy tutorials -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs I ran the command gpresult at the command prompt. Was that what I was supposed to do? Gpedit.msc didn't have a results wizard option, nor could I find one in ADUC. This is what I get for the applied group policy objects: Applied Group Policy Objects - Default Domain Controllers Policy Default Domain Policy Local Group Policy Also, where do I *find* these GPOs? Pretend I have no clue what I'm doing (because, really, I don't!!!) I have looked in ADUC and I don't see them. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries
RE: Error message in logs
Ok, I think I found the answer. Here's the information I found. How safe is this to apply to a DC? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278316/ Could I just copy the local GPO database from another DC? -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Yo may have to sign up for that site. Do a google for the these terms: group policy tutorials you will find a lot of info. If you need help after you have done that let us know. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Try here: http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/tutorial/Microsoft-Group-Policy-Tu torial I used google and typed in Basic group policy tutorials -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs I ran the command gpresult at the command prompt. Was that what I was supposed to do? Gpedit.msc didn't have a results wizard option, nor could I find one in ADUC. This is what I get for the applied group policy objects: Applied Group Policy Objects - Default Domain Controllers Policy Default Domain Policy Local Group Policy Also, where do I *find* these GPOs? Pretend I have no clue what I'm doing (because, really, I don't!!!) I have looked in ADUC and I don't see them. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come is a KB article from Windows 2000 Server which includes commands that don't work in Windows 2003 (registry editing and then issuing a secpol /enforce... command, which is invalid in Windows 2003.) When I look at the security log file, I see the following error: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:23:58 AM Error 11: An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. Error creating database. Configuration engine was initialized with one or more errors. Anyone know what the hell is going on here and how do I fix it? I've *tried* Googling, and that's not producing many results. Matter of fact, Google is how I found the Windows 2003 issue. It seems oddly coincidental that similar errors occur on whichever of my servers has Vipre Enterprise Server at the moment. Could be coincidence, but could be related, in my mind. I will add this information to the ticket I have open with Sunbelt and see if they have any suggestions
RE: Error message in logs
Thanks. The command, secedit /refreshpolicy machine_policy /enforce does not work on Win2003. Someone at Microsoft might want to update that page to show the current command. -Original Message- From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Pop open a command prompt and do gpupdate /force Also, the KB article you mention still applies to 2003. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Rick, thanks for trying to help me learn. I will try to take the time to study this later. Unfortunately, right now I'm in crisis mode and need help figuring out how to fix this problem. I found the following article, but as I mentioned, it applies to Windows 2000 Server, not 2003, so it doesn't really apply. Can anyone enlighten me as to how to reapply the policies WITHOUT rebooting, please? -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Yo may have to sign up for that site. Do a google for the these terms: group policy tutorials you will find a lot of info. If you need help after you have done that let us know. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Try here: http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/tutorial/Microsoft-Group-Policy-Tu torial I used google and typed in Basic group policy tutorials -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs I ran the command gpresult at the command prompt. Was that what I was supposed to do? Gpedit.msc didn't have a results wizard option, nor could I find one in ADUC. This is what I get for the applied group policy objects: Applied Group Policy Objects - Default Domain Controllers Policy Default Domain Policy Local Group Policy Also, where do I *find* these GPOs? Pretend I have no clue what I'm doing (because, really, I don't!!!) I have looked in ADUC and I don't see them. Thanks! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Just fire up the GP Management Console and run the Results Wizard, it'll tell you all the GPOs that are applying to that server. On 1 August 2011 13:51, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Negative. No legal GPOs. I looked at the local policy. I'll go look at domain policy. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs There'll be the Default Domain Policy, at least. Unless you have blocked inheritance on the OU? Some of the Google hits indicate issues with a Legal Notice GPO with a carriage return in it. IIRC the only way to do this effectively is by editing the binary data, so it might be something beyond the scope of a standard GPO. You don't have one of those setup? On 1 August 2011 13:43, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I concur with that diagnosis. But that's the strange part. AFAIK there *are* no GPOs. At least none that I have created and installed. I suppose one of the supporting vendors could have done so. Guess I'll have to fire up GPEDIT and see what the heck is going on. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Error message in logs Sounds like a problem with Group Policy Objects. What sort of GPOs do you have applied to this server? On 1 August 2011 13:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm getting an error message in my log files on Server 2003. The log entry is as follows: Security policies were propagated with warning. 0xb : An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. The error message says to search Microsoft for troubleshooing 1202 events. Well, apparently my search is f-ed up right now, because I can't FIND anything on Microsoft's websites about this error! The closest I can come
RE: Error message in logs
Thank you, Webster. IF I HAD THE MONEY, I WOULD! TRUST me! Due to circumstances beyond my control, I routinely have more month than money, speaking strictly from a personal standpoint, so thus have no way to fund training!!! My employer does not have the funds for training either, so that's out as well. Once I have this crisis resolved I will try and take time to read the aforementioned document on GPOs. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole diatribe, shall we???) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Training (was RE: Error message in logs)
RANT Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for training? I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want to hear about pay for training yourself! And trust me, I'm not living high on the hog. There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc. If you really want me to get training, give me the money and I'll gladly go get training. Really, just tell me where to find the money and I'll do it. Thanks! /RANT -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs +10,000,000 I think the last time I had an employer pay for my training was in, uh, 1995 or so? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole diatribe, shall we???) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs)
Apparently you didn't read my initial post. I DID Google. I found a page that applied to Windows 2000, but supposedly said it applied to 2003 as well. Guess what. It didn't. I posted on here and CONTINUED to search. I finally found another page that refers to a different KB article that explains that it's likely a corrupt local GPO. So, yes, I did do due diligence. sarcasm Sorry if I didn't do enough for you or do it fast enough! /sarcasm -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) That does not mean that the list should then provide that training to you for free. I will not speak in broad generalizations, but, in regards to your most recent emergency, you could have found out most of the information you solicited from the list on the internet for free. There is an expectation that you will put some good faith effort into solving your own problems before coming to the list. There are some great, intelligent, experienced folks on this list, and they really try to help. The least we can all do when coming for assistance is to try and do some basic troubleshooting and research on our own, so as not to waste other people's time and annoy them. This cannot turn into a newbie support list, or all those aforementioned folks are going to leave. Please stop abusing this list so that it can remain the valuable resource it is. Bill Mayo -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) RANT Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for training? I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want to hear about pay for training yourself! And trust me, I'm not living high on the hog. There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc. If you really want me to get training, give me the money and I'll gladly go get training. Really, just tell me where to find the money and I'll do it. Thanks! /RANT -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs +10,000,000 I think the last time I had an employer pay for my training was in, uh, 1995 or so? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole diatribe, shall we???) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs)
Thank you, Andrew, for your reasoned words. I am extremely frustrated and overloaded with work right now, and when people insist on saying pay for your own training when I *specifically* requested that we cease flogging that particular deceased equine, I lash out. I would like to apologize to the list in general. However, my point remains: I have no money, whatsoever, for training. I am doing good to pay my bills as it is. Thank you for understanding. Should conditions change such that I can afford to pay my bills, eat AND keep a roof over my head as well as pay for training, I will do so. Please let's not continue with sometimes you just have to pay for your own training for the time being. Please. This has been a VERY hectic Monday and it's not even half over yet. Sorry for any hard feelings. I have tried to take to heart the need to try to find the answers on my own. Obviously some folks didn't notice that I had not had much luck searching, but I did try. Thank you. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) Biting the hands that feed you is always bad policy. If you insist on taking that approach, you might consider doing so off-line so you don't destroy what little sympathy appears to remain for you on this list. Unless, of course, your real goal is just to annoy and create confusion, in which case, carry on. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Apparently you didn't read my initial post. I DID Google. I found a page that applied to Windows 2000, but supposedly said it applied to 2003 as well. Guess what. It didn't. I posted on here and CONTINUED to search. I finally found another page that refers to a different KB article that explains that it's likely a corrupt local GPO. So, yes, I did do due diligence. sarcasm Sorry if I didn't do enough for you or do it fast enough! /sarcasm -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) That does not mean that the list should then provide that training to you for free. I will not speak in broad generalizations, but, in regards to your most recent emergency, you could have found out most of the information you solicited from the list on the internet for free. There is an expectation that you will put some good faith effort into solving your own problems before coming to the list. There are some great, intelligent, experienced folks on this list, and they really try to help. The least we can all do when coming for assistance is to try and do some basic troubleshooting and research on our own, so as not to waste other people's time and annoy them. This cannot turn into a newbie support list, or all those aforementioned folks are going to leave. Please stop abusing this list so that it can remain the valuable resource it is. Bill Mayo -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) RANT Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for training? I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want to hear about pay for training yourself! And trust me, I'm not living high on the hog. There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc. If you really want me to get training, give me the money and I'll gladly go get training. Really, just tell me where to find the money and I'll do it. Thanks! /RANT -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs +10,000,000 I think the last time I had an employer pay for my training was in, uh, 1995 or so? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully
RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs)
Agreed. Not ENTIRELY the community, at least. I admit, I am frustrated and overloaded here. That being said, is it REALLY too much to ask that we NOT continue flogging a particular dead horse? I know I need more training. I have no money for said training, and it's extremely frustrating when people insist on posting that's elementary. You should just go get more training. That sort of reply is NOT helpful. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) John, are you starting to notice a pattern here? You have a problem. Someone helps you, probably not as well as you'd like, or in the manner you like, and offers some unsolicited comment about the way you ask for help, or your reputation for accepting help, etc. You rant. Someone explains things. You calm down. This has been a pretty common cycle, and the frequency with which it repeats should be telling that the fault is not on the community. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thank you, Andrew, for your reasoned words. I am extremely frustrated and overloaded with work right now, and when people insist on saying pay for your own training when I *specifically* requested that we cease flogging that particular deceased equine, I lash out. I would like to apologize to the list in general. However, my point remains: I have no money, whatsoever, for training. I am doing good to pay my bills as it is. Thank you for understanding. Should conditions change such that I can afford to pay my bills, eat AND keep a roof over my head as well as pay for training, I will do so. Please let's not continue with sometimes you just have to pay for your own training for the time being. Please. This has been a VERY hectic Monday and it's not even half over yet. Sorry for any hard feelings. I have tried to take to heart the need to try to find the answers on my own. Obviously some folks didn't notice that I had not had much luck searching, but I did try. Thank you. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) Biting the hands that feed you is always bad policy. If you insist on taking that approach, you might consider doing so off-line so you don't destroy what little sympathy appears to remain for you on this list. Unless, of course, your real goal is just to annoy and create confusion, in which case, carry on. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Apparently you didn't read my initial post. I DID Google. I found a page that applied to Windows 2000, but supposedly said it applied to 2003 as well. Guess what. It didn't. I posted on here and CONTINUED to search. I finally found another page that refers to a different KB article that explains that it's likely a corrupt local GPO. So, yes, I did do due diligence. sarcasm Sorry if I didn't do enough for you or do it fast enough! /sarcasm -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) That does not mean that the list should then provide that training to you for free. I will not speak in broad generalizations, but, in regards to your most recent emergency, you could have found out most of the information you solicited from the list on the internet for free. There is an expectation that you will put some good faith effort into solving your own problems before coming to the list. There are some great, intelligent, experienced folks on this list, and they really try to help. The least we can all do when coming for assistance is to try and do some basic troubleshooting and research on our own, so as not to waste other people's time and annoy them. This cannot turn into a newbie support list, or all those aforementioned folks are going to leave. Please stop abusing this list so that it can remain the valuable resource it is. Bill Mayo -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) RANT Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for training? I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want to hear about pay for training yourself! And trust me, I'm not living high on the hog. There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc
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Thank you, James. I will keep that in mind should the opportunity arise. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) Training ain't all about money. You can learn most everything you need to know about GPOs from a small lab which could be set up on a couple of old PCs, coupled with some online docs. I know you also said you were low on spare time, but when things are quiet I usually tinker with some test stuff, which is how I'm trying to learn my XenApp 6.5 skills at the moment. On 1 August 2011 17:08, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Agreed. Not ENTIRELY the community, at least. I admit, I am frustrated and overloaded here. That being said, is it REALLY too much to ask that we NOT continue flogging a particular dead horse? I know I need more training. I have no money for said training, and it's extremely frustrating when people insist on posting that's elementary. You should just go get more training. That sort of reply is NOT helpful. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) John, are you starting to notice a pattern here? You have a problem. Someone helps you, probably not as well as you'd like, or in the manner you like, and offers some unsolicited comment about the way you ask for help, or your reputation for accepting help, etc. You rant. Someone explains things. You calm down. This has been a pretty common cycle, and the frequency with which it repeats should be telling that the fault is not on the community. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thank you, Andrew, for your reasoned words. I am extremely frustrated and overloaded with work right now, and when people insist on saying pay for your own training when I *specifically* requested that we cease flogging that particular deceased equine, I lash out. I would like to apologize to the list in general. However, my point remains: I have no money, whatsoever, for training. I am doing good to pay my bills as it is. Thank you for understanding. Should conditions change such that I can afford to pay my bills, eat AND keep a roof over my head as well as pay for training, I will do so. Please let's not continue with sometimes you just have to pay for your own training for the time being. Please. This has been a VERY hectic Monday and it's not even half over yet. Sorry for any hard feelings. I have tried to take to heart the need to try to find the answers on my own. Obviously some folks didn't notice that I had not had much luck searching, but I did try. Thank you. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) Biting the hands that feed you is always bad policy. If you insist on taking that approach, you might consider doing so off-line so you don't destroy what little sympathy appears to remain for you on this list. Unless, of course, your real goal is just to annoy and create confusion, in which case, carry on. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Apparently you didn't read my initial post. I DID Google. I found a page that applied to Windows 2000, but supposedly said it applied to 2003 as well. Guess what. It didn't. I posted on here and CONTINUED to search. I finally found another page that refers to a different KB article that explains that it's likely a corrupt local GPO. So, yes, I did do due diligence. sarcasm Sorry if I didn't do enough for you or do it fast enough! /sarcasm -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) That does not mean that the list should then provide that training to you for free. I will not speak in broad generalizations, but, in regards to your most recent emergency, you could have found out most of the information you solicited from the list on the internet for free. There is an expectation that you will put some good faith effort into solving your own problems before coming to the list. There are some great, intelligent, experienced folks on this list, and they really try to help. The least we can all do when coming for assistance is to try and do some basic troubleshooting and research on our own, so as not to waste other people's time and annoy them. This cannot turn into a newbie support list, or all those aforementioned folks are going to leave. Please stop abusing this list so that it can remain the valuable resource it is. Bill Mayo -Original Message
