Re: peso illinois governor

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

No doubt. I wasn't criticizing.

I recognized that dirt. The desert over there ain't made out of sand, 
it's powdered clay. AR-15/M-16/M-4 are very intolerant of dirt getting 
in them. And that's the worst kind of dirt FOR getting in there - all 
clingy and ready to turn into sticky mud at the drop of a hat or sweat.


You really don't want to waste any time getting that cleaned out of 
there as soon as you can. Keep the dust cover closed and brush the rest 
of the dirt off frequently ... before you get REAL busy.


From: P. J. Alling


Apparently he's been busy.

On 1/30/2010 11:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 All I gotta say is that bad boy needs cleanin' ...  bad.

 From: P. J. Alling

 Kind of like this?

 http://americandigest.org/sitesight.jpg




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Re: PESO: Corral

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Christine  Aguila


I like the textures too, John.  Interesting picture.  Cheers, Christine


Thank you.

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RE: PESO - The Eternal Repose of the Upper Crust

2010-01-31 Thread Bob W
 
 This unusual memorial (and sarcophagus?) is in the church in 
 Burford, Oxfordshire (built 1175-1400).
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10597634
 

They look like a 1770s Cosmo centrefold. Show us yer halberds, big boys.

Or perhaps an early draft for the cover of Thriller.

Bob


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RE: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread Bob W
 Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on the 
 house and attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught 
 in the moving sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her 
 wrist - badly. We'll know in a couple of days if they're 
 going to want to do surgery.

That's annoying! It's so easily done and takes absurdly long to recover
from. I hope she doesn't need surgery. Mine had to be pinned and the pin was
so uncomfortable I had to have it removed a year later. It's now about 3
years since the break and the scar is still red.

Hope Lisa has a lucky break!

Bob


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Interesting Timelaps film of Vancouver

2010-01-31 Thread Steffen Zahn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xMz2SnSWS4


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Re: Interesting Timelaps film of Vancouver

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, Steffen Zahn, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xMz2SnSWS4


Very cool, thanks for posting. So hard to get the camera moves like that
in time-lapse, especially the tracking shots.
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Re: Interesting Timelaps film of Vancouver

2010-01-31 Thread David Savage
Feckin awesome!!!

On 31 January 2010 17:10, Steffen Zahn z...@snafu.de wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xMz2SnSWS4

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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:12 -0500, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:
 I think this might work.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623317692862/
 
 We got something I'm calling snow for lack of a better word. Under foot 
 it looks like snow, but it don't feel like snow.



Well it looks like snow to me - not that I'd know.

I particularly like the first one.  The almost symmetrical composition
works well here.



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Re: peso illinois governor with Jack's suggestions

2010-01-31 Thread mike wilson

Christine Aguila wrote:

I popped one off 


Cotty (and Bob) must have died.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2008-2009 request

2010-01-31 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


It runs 12 minutes and can be found here:

http://www.vimeo.com/9087452

password: pdml


Bugger production.  Just make it and sell copies.  I'll buy one and I 
promise to rain brimstone on anyone found copying it.


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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
Mark, I hope Lisa recovers quickly and swiftly!

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Good news: The house in Pittsburgh is sold. Closing is on March 1st
 and we'll be looking for somewhere in Boston that's bigger than the
 2-bedroom apartment we're currently occupying.

 Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on the house and
 attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught in the moving
 sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her wrist - badly. We'll know
 in a couple of days if they're going to want to do surgery.

 Interesting times, eh?


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Very OT: Tennis

2010-01-31 Thread Bob W
As I sit here watching Andy Murray play Roger Federer in the final of the
Australian Open, I can't help but speculate on the resemblance between
Murray and one of our closest cousins. I wonder if they could be related:

Our cousin:
http://tinyurl.com/ya5powg

Andy Murray:
http://tinyurl.com/yhobor9



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Re: Very OT: Tennis

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

As I sit here watching Andy Murray play Roger Federer in the final of the
Australian Open,

Watching too, he's out

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Re: OT PESO - Big Ears

2010-01-31 Thread Toine
Great portrait. Very bright and colorful tattoo's which makes me
wonder which inkt is used. Epson K3? Are tattoo's UV resistant :)

Toine

On 31 January 2010 01:21, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this one a few months ago while walking past one of Fremantles
 backpacker hostels:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/4314713499/

 Direct link (~215kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2718/4314713499_dfb2c9d221_o.jpg

 D700, AF-S 24-70mm @ 44mm, 1/20 @ f5.6, ISO 100.

 In a heroic effort (for me) I asked if could take his photo. I got the
 impression from his reply that he gets that request a lot.

 As for the title, that's how he introduced himself when we shook hands.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

 Dave

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OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
Which would be better?

I have a main external hard drive used as a scratch disk and for holding
files for video editing. It gets backed up regularly (using SuperDuper -
backup software) to a second drive for redundancy. Every few months or
so I figure it is a good idea to wipe the main external HD completely
and reinstall the backed up files. The question is, which would be better:

To wipe the main external drive and simply drag and drop the backup onto it?

or

To wipe the main external drive and use the backup software to allow it
to do its thing and clone back onto it?

Mac OS 10.5.8

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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist
Sorry to hear that. Hope she heals quickly.
Paul
On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Good news: The house in Pittsburgh is sold. Closing is on March 1st
 and we'll be looking for somewhere in Boston that's bigger than the
 2-bedroom apartment we're currently occupying.
 
 Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on the house and
 attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught in the moving
 sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her wrist - badly. We'll know
 in a couple of days if they're going to want to do surgery.
 
 Interesting times, eh?
 
 
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Re: PESO coldest january in 13 years

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist
Very nice work. Love the sky full of clouds as well as those Dave mentioned.
Paul
On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:24 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Very nice set. I like the first and second ones a lot
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 The Dutch weather forecasters claim we had the coldest january in 13
 years. It's not like we have a new ice age, reminds me how it used to
 be in the past.
 
 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/115-cold
 
 K20D, DA12-24
 
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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Damn it! Best to Lisa.

Jack

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 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: OT: Good news  bad news
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:55 PM
 Good news: The house in Pittsburgh is
 sold. Closing is on March 1st
 and we'll be looking for somewhere in Boston that's bigger
 than the
 2-bedroom apartment we're currently occupying.
 
 Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on
 the house and
 attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught in the
 moving
 sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her wrist - badly.
 We'll know
 in a couple of days if they're going to want to do
 surgery.
 
 Interesting times, eh?
 
 
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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread drd1135
What a bizarre accident. Speedy recovery! 
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Good news: The house in Pittsburgh is sold. Closing is on March 1st
and we'll be looking for somewhere in Boston that's bigger than the
2-bedroom apartment we're currently occupying.

Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on the house and
attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught in the moving
sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her wrist - badly. We'll know
in a couple of days if they're going to want to do surgery.

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Re: PESO: Corral

2010-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Pretty tricky, John. ;) Nicely done!

Jack

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 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Corral
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:46 PM
 From: Jack Davis
  Well done hyper focus. 
  Jack 
  --- On Sat, 1/30/10, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
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   From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
   Subject: PESO: Corral
   To: pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 5:14 PM
   A corral on the side of the road in
   Utah heading south toward Monument Valley.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4317642860/sizes/m/
 
 Unfortunately, it's a comp.
 
 The actual view of the mesa captured between the posts was
 out-of-focus, so I had to substitute the in-focus mesa taken
 from other side of the posts.
 
 I was working a Photoshop tutorial on making a layer mask
 for wind blown hair, and the twine on those posts was the
 only thing I could find in my back catalog that looked
 anything like wind blown hair.
 
 But both of the images I combined were taken with the K-10D
 ... about 5 min and about 5 feet apart.
 
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Re: Very OT: Tennis

2010-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
LoL..

J

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Very OT: Tennis
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:51 AM
 As I sit here watching Andy Murray
 play Roger Federer in the final of the
 Australian Open, I can't help but speculate on the
 resemblance between
 Murray and one of our closest cousins. I wonder if they
 could be related:
 
 Our cousin:
 http://tinyurl.com/ya5powg
 
 Andy Murray:
 http://tinyurl.com/yhobor9
 
 
 
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Yo! Scott! It's the last day in January!

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
How about the January PUG?

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Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread David J Brooks
I don't really want to dig out my old Epson.

Any one tried this thing

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Re: Yo! Scott! It's the last day in January!

2010-01-31 Thread P N Stenquist
It's much easier to reach Scott on Twitter or Facebook. Just tweet for  
him!


On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Rick Womer wrote:


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RE: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
I'm glad to hear your good news. I hope the bad news doesn't turn out as 
bad as sounds at first.


Here's wishing Dr. Lisa heals fast with minimal after effects.

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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Adam Maas
And a lot more than we have in Toronto.

-Adam

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 You have almost as much as we do here.;-)

 Dave

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:12 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I think this might work.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623317692862/

 We got something I'm calling snow for lack of a better word. Under foot it
 looks like snow, but it don't feel like snow.

 I think we got about half an inch of snow, then it wobbled back and forth
 between snow, sleet and freezing rain. Had little teeny tiny flurries most
 of the day, but it really started snowing again when I went out in the
 evening to take photos.

 Anyway, this is the first few I've been able to process. I've got a couple
 more to work on and get up there.

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PESO A date with mom

2010-01-31 Thread P N Stenquist

At the coffee shop, K7D, DA* 50-135, f4 ISO 1600:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10600675size=lg

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Re: Yo! Scott! It's the last day in January!

2010-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling

The submission form is gone so Scott may be doing something...

On 1/31/2010 8:19 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

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Re: PESO A date with mom

2010-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Delightful!

Jack

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 At the coffee shop, K7D, DA* 50-135,
 f4 ISO 1600:
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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:30 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't really want to dig out my old Epson.

 Any one tried this thing

 http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CAcatalog=Onlinecategory=ComputerGadgetsproduct=4213006

It's almost certainly a little digicam with a fixed registration copy
lens setup. The only real advantage over a scanner might be speed.

You'd be better off with a used Minolta Scan Dual II/III/IV and
Vuescan software. Recent Ebay prices on the Scan Dual II are down in
the $60 range, and it will produce a 2820ppi, 10Mpixel image, where
this device is claiming a 5Mpixel image (about 1900-2000 ppi).

Of course, with a K10D and a macro lens capable of 1:2 magnification,
you can set up a copystand rig that is both fast and produces 10Mpixel
images.
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PDML Photo Annual 2008-2009

2010-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Cotty, 
In addition to my earlier positive remarks, I want to add that I'd be pleased 
and proud to have any of my stuff (as George Carlin might have put it) 
associated with your project.

Jack


  

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Re: Pentax DFA Macro 100mm F2.8 WR

2010-01-31 Thread Margus Männik
Let me explain a bit. Those minuses don't mean that the lens would be 
unusable or bad.
Aperture ring. If the box says digital  film it should work with (at 
least latest) film bodies. Yes, I do have Z-1p and therefore shouldn't 
actually care about, but as reviewer it is my duty to notice such details.
Lack of limiter is actually a bit more serious. Macro means 
close-focusing ability, not that the lens is suitable for shooting 
little things only. They're also very good for portraits, landscapes 
etc. So the focus hunting in close-up range is pretty annoying. 
Especially in combination with such a limited-speed AF. Maybe (and once 
again - maybe), if the lens would have SDM, lack of the limiter would be 
rather irrelevant.


Unfortunately I can not answer your main question - here in Estonia the 
new 100mm Macro WR is freely available (in stores, not order) from our 
Pentax dealer. Sometimes I get the new lenses and bodies a bit earlier 
(to review 'em before they hit outlets), but this time I got my sample 
the very same day as the stores.


VBR, Margus


Leon Altoff wrote:

Margus,

None of your minuses bother me, particularly the lack of a delimiter -
mine will always be in the macro range (it is a macro lens after all)
and aperture ring (I seem to have completely given up on film despite
having an MX and MZ-S sitting looking at me all the time).

My only question is where did you get it and when can I get mine?

Leon

2010/1/31 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee:
  

Very first impressions:

+ it's extremely sharp
+ it's very well built
+ it's surprisingly compact
+ it covers 24x36mm frame (even the box says: Digital  Film)
+ it's weather-proofed
+ the front lens is placed a bit inside the barrel (barrel end acts like a
short hood)
+ manual focusing is smooth and firm

0 nice metal barrel screams for Limited-style front cap
0 the bayonet hood is plastic, not metal
0 49mm filter size (it seems that several quality brands start from 52mm
size nowadays)

- as it's screw-drive-only, the focusing is slow
- there is no focus distance limiter (which makes focusing even slower)
- there is no aperture ring
- inner (extending) barrel is plastic

BR, Margus


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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If the notion of doing this is to reduce fragmentation and enhance
performance, then the 'erase, drag and drop' methodology would be
better as that will write each file, one at a time, as a contiguous
entity. IIRC, SuperDuper makes volume clones, which preserve the exact
block structure of the clone source volume, preserving whatever
fragmentation might exist. .

Another excellent utility, ChronoSync by Econ Technologies, is what I
use for this sort of thing rather than the Finder, however. ChronoSync
works as a synchronizer primarily but is also very good at volume to
volume file duplication because you can turn on enhanced verification,
have it create a log of its operation, and if you need to interrupt it
in the middle of the task, when you restart it will pick up where it
left off and save a lot of time.

However, for video editing you should have your scratch disk
completely independent of the video editing source AND destination
disks. All connected with eSATA or FireWire800 ... That promotes
better performance and minimizes fragmentation.

yes, video editing eats disk space ...

Godfrey

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Which would be better?

 I have a main external hard drive used as a scratch disk and for holding
 files for video editing. It gets backed up regularly (using SuperDuper -
 backup software) to a second drive for redundancy. Every few months or
 so I figure it is a good idea to wipe the main external HD completely
 and reinstall the backed up files. The question is, which would be better:

 To wipe the main external drive and simply drag and drop the backup onto it?

 or

 To wipe the main external drive and use the backup software to allow it
 to do its thing and clone back onto it?

 Mac OS 10.5.8

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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-01-31 6:42, Cotty wrote:


To wipe the main external drive and simply drag and drop the backup onto it?

or

To wipe the main external drive and use the backup software to allow it
to do its thing and clone back onto it?


I don't know about MAC specifics, since I'm a Windows and Linux sort of 
guy.  But I don't like using backup software, because it usually doesn't 
leave the files in a directly accessible format on the backup target. 
So, I generally just do regular file copies to the backup media.  I 
don't typically use the GUI for tasks like this, because I've found that 
on most systems the command line tools for copying files work faster, 
since they don't spend any time dinking around keeping the screen up to 
date.  So, for me, it'd be a small shell script or something that simply 
copies everything I want backed up to the external drive.



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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-01-31 8:30, David J Brooks wrote:

I don't really want to dig out my old Epson.

Any one tried this thing

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CAcatalog=Onlinecategory=ComputerGadgetsproduct=4213006


Since they go out of their way not to mention the capture resolution, 
I'd be worried it's going to give me tiny little scans (in pixels).


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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Doug,

Both SuperDuper and ChronoSync that I mentioned place the files onto
the destination disk in their original format. They can optionally
also copy files into virtual volumes (the Mac OS X disk image or
.DMG files) which are well known to the operating system and the
recommended way to package software for distribution for Mac OS X
users.

I've done these sorts of mass volume file transfers with the UNIX
commands using a Terminal window as well. It isn't significantly
faster than the Mac OS X Finder at doing them, and getting all the
right command line options set up correctly is occasionally a bit of a
fussy business.

BTW, the name of the Apple operating system is not MAC (a
manufacturer of high quality machine tools), it's Mac OS X.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 I don't know about MAC specifics, since I'm a Windows and Linux sort of guy.
  But I don't like using backup software, because it usually doesn't leave
 the files in a directly accessible format on the backup target. So, I
 generally just do regular file copies to the backup media.  I don't
 typically use the GUI for tasks like this, because I've found that on most
 systems the command line tools for copying files work faster, since they
 don't spend any time dinking around keeping the screen up to date.  So, for
 me, it'd be a small shell script or something that simply copies everything
 I want backed up to the external drive.


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Re: Pentax DFA Macro 100mm F2.8 WR

2010-01-31 Thread Margus Männik
No, there is no adapter included. User Manual says no word about it. My 
best guess is, that AF160 will attach to the metal barrel (bayonet).


IMO, F 100 Macro wasn't quite a tank compared to FA100 Macro. DFA 100 
Macro WR is more compact and feels at least as solid as FA.


VBR, Margus


Toine wrote:

Does it include a adapter for the af160 ringflash? The specs say it
does but how does it attach, to the outer aluminium barrel or the
inner plastic barrel?
My F100macro is build like a tank. Is this one as solid?

Toine

2010/1/30 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee:
  

Very first impressions:

+ it's extremely sharp
+ it's very well built
+ it's surprisingly compact
+ it covers 24x36mm frame (even the box says: Digital  Film)
+ it's weather-proofed
+ the front lens is placed a bit inside the barrel (barrel end acts like a
short hood)
+ manual focusing is smooth and firm

0 nice metal barrel screams for Limited-style front cap
0 the bayonet hood is plastic, not metal
0 49mm filter size (it seems that several quality brands start from 52mm
size nowadays)

- as it's screw-drive-only, the focusing is slow
- there is no focus distance limiter (which makes focusing even slower)
- there is no aperture ring
- inner (extending) barrel is plastic

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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/31/2010 8:30 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

I don't really want to dig out my old Epson.

Any one tried this thing

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CAcatalog=Onlinecategory=ComputerGadgetsproduct=4213006
   


The only review I was able to find of the thing didn't look promising, 
which is too bad, my brother gave me a similar device for Christmas.  I 
haven't played with it much but it looks a lot like the ION with a 
different plastic face.






   



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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 Since they go out of their way not to mention the capture resolution, I'd be
 worried it's going to give me tiny little scans (in pixels).

Quoting the advertisement:
Slide 2 PC is a high-resolution, 5 megapixel scanner with a
high-quality four-glass optic element.

1975 ppi resolution nets a 1866x2799 pixel image from a 24x36 mm
source image, approximately 5 Mpixels.

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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 On 2010-01-31 6:42, Cotty wrote:

 To wipe the main external drive and simply drag and drop the backup onto
 it?

 or

 To wipe the main external drive and use the backup software to allow it
 to do its thing and clone back onto it?

 I don't know about MAC specifics, since I'm a Windows and Linux sort of guy.
  But I don't like using backup software, because it usually doesn't leave
 the files in a directly accessible format on the backup target. So, I
 generally just do regular file copies to the backup media.  I don't
 typically use the GUI for tasks like this, because I've found that on most
 systems the command line tools for copying files work faster, since they
 don't spend any time dinking around keeping the screen up to date.  So, for
 me, it'd be a small shell script or something that simply copies everything
 I want backed up to the external drive.


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Most good backup software leaves readable copies of files on the
destination drive when copying to a standard filesystem. I tend to use
rsync-based backup strategies myself, but there's a zillion good
options on Mac, Linux or PC that don't behave as you suggest.


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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-01-31 10:54, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


 getting all the
right command line options set up correctly is occasionally a bit of a
fussy business.


If I have to do it more than once, I write a script, so that's only an 
issue the first time, for me. :-)


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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-01-31 11:01, Adam Maas wrote:


Most good backup software leaves readable copies of files on the
destination drive when copying to a standard filesystem. I tend to use
rsync-based backup strategies myself, but there's a zillion good
options on Mac, Linux or PC that don't behave as you suggest.


That may be true now, but it surely wasn't several years ago when I gave 
up on those programs and switched to cp/xcopy.  Rsync isn't really a 
backup program per se, it's more of a mirroring tool to make sure two 
live copies are identical.  As such, it works for me for some purposes 
and I use it a on Unix-like environments and Windows.  But for 
mirroring/increments rather than full backups.


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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-01-31 11:00, Godfrey Di Giorgi wrote:


1975 ppi resolution nets a 1866x2799 pixel image from a 24x36 mm
source image, approximately 5 Mpixels.


Oops, I missed that, sorry.

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Re: PESO: Corral

2010-01-31 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

That is a wonderful image.  I love the point of the view, and I
especially love the textures, which give me a real feel for the place.


What Dan said.

cheers,
frank



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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Good news: The house in Pittsburgh is sold. Closing is on March 1st
 and we'll be looking for somewhere in Boston that's bigger than the
 2-bedroom apartment we're currently occupying.

 Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on the house and
 attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught in the moving
 sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her wrist - badly. We'll know
 in a couple of days if they're going to want to do surgery.

 Interesting times, eh?


Oh shit!

Send Lisa my best wishes for a speedy recovery.  That sounds really nasty!

BTW, she's going to have to come up with a better story as to how she
broke her wrist.  Shoelace?  Moving sidewalk at the airport?

No:  She was skydiving and the main 'chute didn't open and at the last
moment she got the reserve to untangle and she hit the ground too
fast.  Or maybe she was doing a bit of winter training in the southern
hemisphere, like in the Andes somewhere and she was descending on the
Pinarello at about 95km/hr and hit a bit of gravel on a long sweeping
curve and she went over the guardrail and miraculously only broke her
wrist.

Be imaginative.  But a slow moving sidewalk will never do.

;-)

Seriously, keep us abreast of her progress.  Thinking of her...

cheers,
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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 On 2010-01-31 10:54, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  getting all the
 right command line options set up correctly is occasionally a bit of a
 fussy business.

 If I have to do it more than once, I write a script, so that's only an issue
 the first time, for me. :-)

I've done that too, but the additional file verification, logging, and
easier interface of something like ChronoSync makes it a much easier
job to set up. Not all Windows and Mac OS X users are expert at
command line scripting.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2008-2009

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

In addition to my earlier positive remarks, I want to add that I'd be
pleased and proud to have any of my stuff (as George Carlin might have
put it) associated with your project.

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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
Thanks Godfrey - just what I wanted to read.

In an ideal world, I would have the best fastest machine possible with a
whole line of drives whizz-banging away.

For guerrilla shooting and editing, I'm afraid it's what fits in one bag
over the shoulder. That's a MBP 15 2.4 Ghz with 2 GB RAM and a 160 GB
7200 HD, and one separate 250 GB 7200 HD in A FireWire (400) enclosure:

http://www.macally.com/EN/product/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=100

The MBP is just over 2 years old and will be looking to replace it when
it's 3. It's without doubt the best Mac I've ever had.

The above combo handles SD video really well, and if I set up in a hotel
room with it for longer than a few hours the I connect up another
external drive and a Yamaha control surface/hardware mixer as well. 

I'm trying to persuade a major client to give me more work to enable me
to put a VSAT dish on my Land Rover roof (£15k) so I can send material
remotely via satellite, including streaming live H.264 video via
hardware encoder (Matrox MX02 LE) back to the studio. Waiting to hear on
that one.

The words 'build', 'day' and 'Rome' spring to mind

Thanks




On 31/1/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

If the notion of doing this is to reduce fragmentation and enhance
performance, then the 'erase, drag and drop' methodology would be
better as that will write each file, one at a time, as a contiguous
entity. IIRC, SuperDuper makes volume clones, which preserve the exact
block structure of the clone source volume, preserving whatever
fragmentation might exist. .

Another excellent utility, ChronoSync by Econ Technologies, is what I
use for this sort of thing rather than the Finder, however. ChronoSync
works as a synchronizer primarily but is also very good at volume to
volume file duplication because you can turn on enhanced verification,
have it create a log of its operation, and if you need to interrupt it
in the middle of the task, when you restart it will pick up where it
left off and save a lot of time.

However, for video editing you should have your scratch disk
completely independent of the video editing source AND destination
disks. All connected with eSATA or FireWire800 ... That promotes
better performance and minimizes fragmentation.

yes, video editing eats disk space ...




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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/31 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 Be imaginative.  But a slow moving sidewalk will never do.

Frank, for some of us, explaining that we couldn't get the cleat loose
from the pedal would suffice. Not for you though. :-)

Those moving sidewalks are never risk free. Neither are shoelaces.
Fingers crossed she mends well, Mark.

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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread 272yb
David, read the reviews on the page, If it was me I would not buy it...


- Original Message -
From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:30:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Scanners

I don't really want to dig out my old Epson.

Any one tried this thing

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CAcatalog=Onlinecategory=ComputerGadgetsproduct=4213006



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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 On 2010-01-31 11:01, Adam Maas wrote:

 Most good backup software leaves readable copies of files on the
 destination drive when copying to a standard filesystem. I tend to use
 rsync-based backup strategies myself, but there's a zillion good
 options on Mac, Linux or PC that don't behave as you suggest.

 That may be true now, but it surely wasn't several years ago when I gave up
 on those programs and switched to cp/xcopy.  Rsync isn't really a backup
 program per se, it's more of a mirroring tool to make sure two live copies
 are identical.  As such, it works for me for some purposes and I use it a on
 Unix-like environments and Windows.  But for mirroring/increments rather
 than full backups.

 --
 Thanks,
 DougF (KG4LMZ)

Mirroring fundamentally is a backup tool, just one that also has some
extra utility. And with the arrival of cheap HDD storage around a
decade ago, it's probably the best backup option for non-corporate
environments.  And most of the wrappers around rsync do both full and
incremental backups. I've been using Cobian on Windows now for several
years, prior to that I used rsync cron jobs, but tools like this have
been available since the mid-1990's at least. If you can do it with
cp/xcopy, rsync will almost always do it better.

-Adam

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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
The best thing about it is it should all be gone by Tuesday. Around 
here, a quarter inch of snow will shut the whole area down, but it 
doesn't linger.


I'm adding a couple more photos to the set. In fact I deleted all the 
photos and am re-uploading them now. Hadn't included copyright in some, 
and I had to rename the files to get them in the order I wanted.


I hope they're going to be in the order I want them.

Seems like there ought to be a way to sort them when they're already up 
there, but I haven't found it yet.


Anyway, thanks to everyone who looked (or will look) and thank you for 
your comments.



From: Adam Maas


And a lot more than we have in Toronto.

-Adam

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:35 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 You have almost as much as we do here.;-)

 Dave

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:12 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I think this might work.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623317692862/

 We got something I'm calling snow for lack of a better word. Under foot it
 looks like snow, but it don't feel like snow.

 I think we got about half an inch of snow, then it wobbled back and forth
 between snow, sleet and freezing rain. Had little teeny tiny flurries most
 of the day, but it really started snowing again when I went out in the
 evening to take photos.

 Anyway, this is the first few I've been able to process. I've got a couple
 more to work on and get up there.



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Redone GESO: Raleigh Snow

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

Finally figured out how to get them in the order I wanted them:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623196431539/

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RE: Redone GESO: Raleigh Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Bob W
 
 Finally figured out how to get them in the order I wanted them:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623196431539/
 

I spent an August day in Raleigh once - interesting to see that it's not
always so hot and humid!

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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

Around
here, a quarter inch of snow will shut the whole area down, but it
doesn't linger

Around here, the mere mention of someone in another country having a
quarter inch of snow is enough to shut our whole place down. You don't
know what damage you've just caused!! ;-)

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Re: Audubon Magazine's top 100 bird photos

2010-01-31 Thread ann sanfedele



Christian wrote:


Bob Sullivan wrote:


Move your cursor over the collage of bird photos below and just click...

http://audubonmagazine.org/



Nice pictures. Rotten interface. 



Christian, boy do I ever agree with that!  
Maybe I'm in grumpy mode cause ive been sick for days,

but that really, really pissed me off.
What,they couldnt do an index and slideshow???  a most
user-unfriendly thinggummy.  I bet some of the winners are
annoyed, too.

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Re: Boris, few PESOs from NYC visit

2010-01-31 Thread ann sanfedele


frank theriault wrote:


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:


I really like that first shot! And the photo of Annsan really captures
the quality of Annsan-ness :-)
Didn't you get any shots of her cat?
   


Yeah, I really like that first one a lot.
And that certainly is Ann don't point that thing at me San.
Nice to see ya, Ann!

cheers,
frank


ann replies:

  Boris was given my permission to show the snap to the list... it was 
nice of him to ask... and
  I think it is a fun shot  Yes, Frank - I was definitely in... 
nono, please no pictures, mode  - kind of...
I mean, I hope I look a bit better than that most of the time!   I do 
want to point out that I made the head

band I was wearing - recently having resumed crochetting
  
I showed Boris my pic of him and he pretty much nixed it  - however, I 
didn't think it was much of a shot

either, so you don't get to see that...

It was a lousy day, weather wise...  had a lovely visit, though - ending 
up at his friends' apt when it
started to rain in earnest  -.  Boris's camera was water resistent, my 
cantax was not so I tucked it
away.  

I met Boris and friends at BH and headed uptown to get a cuppa 
something and a bit of a walk about
I thought Boris was a bit more pressed for time than he was -- sorry I 
didn't get them down to my
neighborhood and home...  so, Mark, no - he didn't get to meet the 
fabulous Ashley.  :-)


I have one shot  from that afternoon on my camera (Peso later) but not 
of people... and

one shot I took with Boris's camera that I haven't seen yet

I'm almost back to human  though still a bit dopy from cold meds... but 
then... :-)


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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
Did you forget to mention the step where you test your backups before  
wiping the working copies?


On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Cotty wrote:


Which would be better?

I have a main external hard drive used as a scratch disk and for  
holding
files for video editing. It gets backed up regularly (using  
SuperDuper -

backup software) to a second drive for redundancy. Every few months or
so I figure it is a good idea to wipe the main external HD completely
and reinstall the backed up files. The question is, which would be  
better:


To wipe the main external drive and simply drag and drop the backup  
onto it?


or

To wipe the main external drive and use the backup software to allow  
it

to do its thing and clone back onto it?

Mac OS 10.5.8

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Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread P N Stenquist
'm forwarding this message to allow Henry to be heard. He sent it to  
me and asked me to pot it on the list. It in no way reflects any  
opinions of my own. I have none:-). I'm sending it in two parts, as  
it's too large a file for the list.

Paul

I am sorry Igor is disappointed by our response to the customer who  
thought he was buying two $250.00 speakers due to an inadvertent error  
on our site. Any customer knowledgeable about the product would have  
immediately recognized there was an error. I am sorry too Igor did not  
find my reply sufficiently apologetic, but the flip side of this coin  
is the customer in question, knowing there was an error, nevertheless  
wanted two for the price of one and when we declined to accede to his  
request attempted to apply leverage to us via his public complaints.  
What are the ethics of a customer who wants two for one, knowing what  
he knew in the first place?


@P. J. Alling
I've never had a problem with BH personally but the attitude does  
bother me. I do however have a problem with their attitude. Even if  
they mad a mistake, what they've done is still against NY State law.


Respectfully, I believe P. J. Alling is mistaken and our action in  
this matter are not at all against NY state law. We have a team of in- 
house lawyers who know pretty much everything we do in matters of this  
nature and would certainly have stopped us were we violating the law.



Tom C
The disclaimor ... would probably not hold up under the law.

As above -- the disclaimer was written by our in-house lead counsel  
and will certainly hold up.


@Igor
On a different subject, - I am rather annoyed by the recent thing
that BH (and a few other resellers, including Adorama, Buydig,
Amazon, etc.) started doing when they do not show the price on their
website until you add the item to the shopping cart.
Some of them say that it dictated by the manufacturer not allowing
them to display low prices. I am not sure if that's all true, - but
that sounds like a bunch of bologna.
Does anybody know if there is any substantial reason behind that game?

In fact I do. It is not bologna. It's the manufacturer's MAP  
agreement. MAP = Minimum advertised price. This dictates the lowest  
price we can advertise and what we may and may not do in print or  
online when the selling price is below the MAP price. Retailers who've  
told you, it dictated by the manufacturer not allowing them to  
display low prices, are telling you the complete truth.


@Tom C
it is still a matter of false and misleading advertising.

I believe you are mistaken. It was an inadvertent error. Saying it was  
false and misleading implies it was done purposely with intent to  
mislead or defraud. It was an inadvertent error.


@P N Stenquist
I've been working with BH for many years and with 47th Street Photo  
before them, which I believe was owned by the same group.
I've only been with BH for 15 years, but as far as I know the owners  
of BH and the owners, then or now, of 47th St Photo are unrelated.


@Boris Liberman
BH has a small warehouse under our Manhattan store and our main  
warehouse is in Brooklyn. We're working on a program to distinguish  
store stock from Brooklyn warehouse stock for our web site. Any store  
customer who wants to buy an item that's only in stock in the Brooklyn  
warehouse should be offered free shipping to any address in the  
lower-48 states.


@Igor Roshchin
Did BH offer him to honor the wrong price if he pulls off his  
review...
We did not. That would be unethical and would also violate  
resellerrating's rules. The review in question was written by  
Polymistis. He apparently edited it so it's reverted to Pending  
status. It will reappear when it shifts off

pending again.

@Tom C It's a stretch to think BH reads the PDML
Stretch away. :-)
the next time a PDML member has a problem with a retailer, that after  
the thread goes a while...
We are ALWAYS concerned when a customer has a problem and as BH's  
customer ombudsman (Not water carrier) I take a personal interest in  
resolving such difficulties with a minimum of red tale whenever  
possible.


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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
Nope.  This page is private, even when I copy the url into a new browser 
window.

Rick

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--- On Sun, 1/31/10, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: GESO: Snow
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:12 AM
 I think this might work.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623317692862/
 
 We got something I'm calling snow for lack of a better
 word. Under foot it looks like snow, but it don't feel like
 snow.
 
 I think we got about half an inch of snow, then it wobbled
 back and forth between snow, sleet and freezing rain. Had
 little teeny tiny flurries most of the day, but it really
 started snowing again when I went out in the evening to take
 photos.
 
 Anyway, this is the first few I've been able to process.
 I've got a couple more to work on and get up there.
 
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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread steve harley

On 2010-01-31 09:15 , Doug Franklin wrote:

Rsync isn't really a
backup program per se, it's more of a mirroring tool to make sure two
live copies are identical. As such, it works for me for some purposes
and I use it a on Unix-like environments and Windows. But for
mirroring/increments rather than full backups.


there are numerous ways to use rsync as the foundation of a true 
incremental backup system; here is one i've used quite a bit:


http://code.google.com/p/rsync-backup/

some of rsync's advantages (e.g. backing up only the changed portion 
large files) don't kick in unless you are syncing across a network, but 
the fact that rsync checksums all files it transfers (and can do a 
checksum on the whole fileset) would be one way to improveme on 
SuperDuper (which does not verify the integrity of files it backs up)


i also frequently use Carbon Copy Cloner, free from:

http://www.bombich.com/

i mainly use it for bootable clones, but it can also do incremental 
backups, and provides a GUI interface for scheduling them; however it 
isn't quite as powerful for syncing across networks or verifying files 
as rsync


btw, i'm not certain what Cotty's goal is with his procedure, but Mac 
disks don't really need defragging:


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375?viewlocale=en_US 

so the only benefit i can see to Cotty's wipe  restore ritual is to 
avoid filesystem corruption; it would save a lot of time and probably be 
just as safe to simply run Disk Utility and verify the volume 
periodically; then use the wipe and restore approach only if/when an 
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
Thanks for posting Paul. I have used B and H many times in the past
(even from the UK) and will continue to do so.

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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

Did you forget to mention the step where you test your backups before
wiping the working copies?

Yes of course. I run all existent FCP projects to make sure there are no
missing bits or problems.

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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:

btw, i'm not certain what Cotty's goal is with his procedure, but Mac
disks don't really need defragging:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375?viewlocale=en_US  

so the only benefit i can see to Cotty's wipe  restore ritual is to
avoid filesystem corruption; it would save a lot of time and probably be
just as safe to simply run Disk Utility and verify the volume
periodically; then use the wipe and restore approach only if/when an
error is reported

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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread P N Stenquist
I sent Part II as well, but it hasn't appeared yet. If it doesn't show  
up, I'll try again.

Paul
On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Cotty wrote:


Thanks for posting Paul. I have used B and H many times in the past
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Re: High tech spirograph

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
4-43336 are great.  How did you make them?

Rick

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--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

  Some test shots on a variation of a type of photo I
 used to like to do when I was a kid
  
  http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623308304116/
  
  I think the technique shows some promise
 
 I tried it with dry ice in glasses and a tub, but it
 doesn't generate enough fog to work well at showing the
 beam.
 
 Maybe I'll set up something outside that generates smoke,
 like a small fire.
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623309697026/
  
 
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Re: Redone GESO: Raleigh Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
The state capitol shot is the winner.  I like the halo around the lamppost, as 
well as the colors, lighting, and composition.

Rick

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 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Redone GESO: Raleigh Snow
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:39 PM
 Finally figured out how to get them
 in the order I wanted them:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623196431539/
 
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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:32 -0800, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Nope.  This page is private, even when I copy the url into a new
 browser window.
 


Yeah, that's odd.

When John first posted the link I was able to get to the photos with no
problem.  Now, it wants me to sign up for Flickr.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/


 
 --- On Sun, 1/31/10, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
  From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
  Subject: GESO: Snow
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:12 AM
  I think this might work.
  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623317692862/
  
  We got something I'm calling snow for lack of a better
  word. Under foot it looks like snow, but it don't feel like
  snow.
  
  I think we got about half an inch of snow, then it wobbled
  back and forth between snow, sleet and freezing rain. Had
  little teeny tiny flurries most of the day, but it really
  started snowing again when I went out in the evening to take
  photos.
  
  Anyway, this is the first few I've been able to process.
  I've got a couple more to work on and get up there.
  
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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

Did you forget to mention the step where you test your backups before  
wiping the working copies?



OOPS! DuhOOH!

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Re: Yo! Scott! It's the last day in January!

2010-01-31 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com

Subject: Yo! Scott! It's the last day in January!



How about the January PUG?


Yeah how about it?

Was it as good for your as it was for me ?

;-\



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Re: GESO: Snow

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

My apologies Rick.

I couldn't get the images in the sequence I wanted them and ended up 
deleting all the photos from that set which deleted the set as well.


I built a new set that I posted as Redone GESO: Raleigh Snow.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623196431539/


From: Rick Womer


Nope.  This page is private, even when I copy the url into a new browser 
window.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: GESO: Snow
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:12 AM
 I think this might work.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157623317692862/



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Re: High tech spirograph

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


4-43336 are great.  How did you make them?


Thanks.

I recently picked up a 20mW green laser off the net for about $25.   I  
hung it from a string. It turns out that it seems to work best with  
the string attached to the bottom of the clip so that the light does  
not hang straight.


The camera is on a tripod with the FA31, ISO 100 f/10 and a 10 second  
exposure, and focused it on some glasses set up below the light.  I  
set the light swinging, rotating around the string, with the initial  
impetus not through the plumb point to get the light to trace a more  
interesting path.


It works a lot better than the ones I did 35 years ago by aiming the  
camera up at a swinging penlight:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4319442501/in/set-72157623322026898/



Rick

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--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


Some test shots on a variation of a type of photo I

used to like to do when I was a kid


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623308304116/

I think the technique shows some promise


I tried it with dry ice in glasses and a tub, but it
doesn't generate enough fog to work well at showing the
beam.

Maybe I'll set up something outside that generates smoke,
like a small fire.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623309697026/




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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Scanners


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:30 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I don't really want to dig out my old Epson.

Any one tried this thing

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CAcatalog=Onlinecategory=ComputerGadgetsproduct=4213006


It's almost certainly a little digicam with a fixed registration copy
lens setup. The only real advantage over a scanner might be speed.

You'd be better off with a used Minolta Scan Dual II/III/IV and
Vuescan software. Recent Ebay prices on the Scan Dual II are down in
the $60 range, and it will produce a 2820ppi, 10Mpixel image, where
this device is claiming a 5Mpixel image (about 1900-2000 ppi).

Of course, with a K10D and a macro lens capable of 1:2 magnification,
you can set up a copystand rig that is both fast and produces 10Mpixel
images.


I've had very good results copying prints with my K20D. The only downside 
has been the time for setup - getting things perpendicular, adjusting the 
tripod for the proper distance.


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Re: PESO A date with mom

2010-01-31 Thread Ken Waller

Great capture  expressiong.
I only wish the guy in the ULH corner wasn't so distracting.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: PESO A date with mom



At the coffee shop, K7D, DA* 50-135, f4 ISO 1600:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10600675size=lg



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Peso: You lookin' at me?

2010-01-31 Thread ann sanfedele

http://tinyurl.com/yglce4d


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/776075473_h9ZL7/Medium


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Message from Henry Posner, Part II

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist
Below is the remainder of Henry Posner's message to the PDML. 
Paul


@John Sessoms
As long as the reseller is a subscriber and can convince reseller ratings 
they are adhering to that code of ethics, negative comments won't stick.
You are mistaken. I have the option to reply publicly or via email regarding 
any negative comment and if a comment violates the site's published rules (see 
http://www.resellerratings.com/terms.pl) I can ask it be taken down until 
modified to conform, but otherwise I have no more ability to have a negative 
review deleted that anyone else here does.

From Benjamin Groebner, Oops! The Legal Consequences Of and Solutions To 
Online Pricing Errors, 1 Shidler J. L. Com.  Tech. 2 (May 26, 2004):

Using Terms and Conditions to Avoid Loss
As the first level of protection, Amazon.com and other online retailers have 
successfully employed protective terms and conditions which they invoke to 
avoid honoring pricing errors. Their websites include legal pages with 
disclaimers reserving the right to refuse to honor pricing errors. For example, 
Amazon.com's site lists its pricing policy under its Conditions of Use. It 
states that despite Amazon.com's best efforts, a small number of items may be 
mispriced and if an item's correct price is higher than their stated price, 
they will, at their discretion, either contact the purchaser for instructions 
before shipping or cancel their order with notification.

The Equitable Doctrine of Unilateral Mistake Defined
When online retailers make honest, good-faith pricing mistakes that result in 
huge losses to the benefit of opportunistic online shoppers, their mistake 
could be grounds for rescinding the unfavorable contract under the doctrine of 
unilateral mistake. One party's mistake can make the contract voidable when the 
mistake concerns a basic assumption on which the contract was formed and has a 
material effect on the agreement that is adverse to that party ... Rescinding 
the contract is the only available remedy under unilateral mistake ...

See also http://law.anu.edu.au/colin/lectures/mistake.htm

In closing, we regret the situation discussed in the resellerratings post which 
initiated this discussion and regret too having disturbed Igor and others here. 
Since this is my first post here, I hope I may be forgiven if I did not conform 
to the group's generally accepted style for doing so.


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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Sorenson
For Windows users, MicroSoft has a free, unsupported PowerToy called 
SyncToy that works well for backup and maintains the original file 
format.  It comes in both 32 and 64-bit flavors.  You can find it here...


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=c26efa36-98e0-4ee9-a7c5-98d0592d8c52displaylang=en

*http://tinyurl.com/2cu9fh*

-p

On 1/31/2010 10:01 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com  wrote:
   

On 2010-01-31 6:42, Cotty wrote:

 

To wipe the main external drive and simply drag and drop the backup onto
it?

or

To wipe the main external drive and use the backup software to allow it
to do its thing and clone back onto it?
   

I don't know about MAC specifics, since I'm a Windows and Linux sort of guy.
  But I don't like using backup software, because it usually doesn't leave
the files in a directly accessible format on the backup target. So, I
generally just do regular file copies to the backup media.  I don't
typically use the GUI for tasks like this, because I've found that on most
systems the command line tools for copying files work faster, since they
don't spend any time dinking around keeping the screen up to date.  So, for
me, it'd be a small shell script or something that simply copies everything
I want backed up to the external drive.


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Most good backup software leaves readable copies of files on the
destination drive when copying to a standard filesystem. I tend to use
rsync-based backup strategies myself, but there's a zillion good
options on Mac, Linux or PC that don't behave as you suggest.


   




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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread Ken Waller

Good to hear the 'rest of the news' as Paul Harvey would say.

thanks for posting.

I too have delt with B+H for many years with no issues.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Message from Henry Posner, Part I


'm forwarding this message to allow Henry to be heard. He sent it to  
me and asked me to pot it on the list. It in no way reflects any  
opinions of my own. I have none:-). I'm sending it in two parts, as  
it's too large a file for the list.

Paul

I am sorry Igor is disappointed by our response to the customer who  
thought he was buying two $250.00 speakers due to an inadvertent error  
on our site. Any customer knowledgeable about the product would have  
immediately recognized there was an error. I am sorry too Igor did not  
find my reply sufficiently apologetic, but the flip side of this coin  
is the customer in question, knowing there was an error, nevertheless  
wanted two for the price of one and when we declined to accede to his  
request attempted to apply leverage to us via his public complaints.  
What are the ethics of a customer who wants two for one, knowing what  
he knew in the first place?


@P. J. Alling
I've never had a problem with BH personally but the attitude does  
bother me. I do however have a problem with their attitude. Even if  
they mad a mistake, what they've done is still against NY State law.


Respectfully, I believe P. J. Alling is mistaken and our action in  
this matter are not at all against NY state law. We have a team of in- 
house lawyers who know pretty much everything we do in matters of this  
nature and would certainly have stopped us were we violating the law.



Tom C
The disclaimor ... would probably not hold up under the law.

As above -- the disclaimer was written by our in-house lead counsel  
and will certainly hold up.


@Igor
On a different subject, - I am rather annoyed by the recent thing
that BH (and a few other resellers, including Adorama, Buydig,
Amazon, etc.) started doing when they do not show the price on their
website until you add the item to the shopping cart.
Some of them say that it dictated by the manufacturer not allowing
them to display low prices. I am not sure if that's all true, - but
that sounds like a bunch of bologna.
Does anybody know if there is any substantial reason behind that game?

In fact I do. It is not bologna. It's the manufacturer's MAP  
agreement. MAP = Minimum advertised price. This dictates the lowest  
price we can advertise and what we may and may not do in print or  
online when the selling price is below the MAP price. Retailers who've  
told you, it dictated by the manufacturer not allowing them to  
display low prices, are telling you the complete truth.


@Tom C
it is still a matter of false and misleading advertising.

I believe you are mistaken. It was an inadvertent error. Saying it was  
false and misleading implies it was done purposely with intent to  
mislead or defraud. It was an inadvertent error.


@P N Stenquist
I've been working with BH for many years and with 47th Street Photo  
before them, which I believe was owned by the same group.
I've only been with BH for 15 years, but as far as I know the owners  
of BH and the owners, then or now, of 47th St Photo are unrelated.


@Boris Liberman
BH has a small warehouse under our Manhattan store and our main  
warehouse is in Brooklyn. We're working on a program to distinguish  
store stock from Brooklyn warehouse stock for our web site. Any store  
customer who wants to buy an item that's only in stock in the Brooklyn  
warehouse should be offered free shipping to any address in the  
lower-48 states.


@Igor Roshchin
Did BH offer him to honor the wrong price if he pulls off his  
review...
We did not. That would be unethical and would also violate  
resellerrating's rules. The review in question was written by  
Polymistis. He apparently edited it so it's reverted to Pending  
status. It will reappear when it shifts off

pending again.

@Tom C It's a stretch to think BH reads the PDML
Stretch away. :-)
the next time a PDML member has a problem with a retailer, that after  
the thread goes a while...
We are ALWAYS concerned when a customer has a problem and as BH's  
customer ombudsman (Not water carrier) I take a personal interest in  
resolving such difficulties with a minimum of red tale whenever  
possible.



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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part II

2010-01-31 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist

Subject: Message from Henry Posner, Part II



Below is the remainder of Henry Posner's message to the PDML.


I suppose the flip side of it is that they are good about backing their 
customers up in the event that the customer screws up.
All this really makes me glad that I don't have to deal with mail order very 
often, whether from BH or anyone else.


William Robb


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 31, 2010, at 11:58 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

'm forwarding this message to allow Henry to be heard. He sent it to  
me and asked me to pot it on the list. It in no way reflects any  
opinions of my own. I have none:-). I'm sending it in two parts, as  
it's too large a file for the list.

Paul



thanks for sending this.


@P N Stenquist
I've been working with BH for many years and with 47th Street  
Photo before them, which I believe was owned by the same group.
I've only been with BH for 15 years, but as far as I know the  
owners of BH and the owners, then or now, of 47th St Photo are  
unrelated.



I understand the confusion. I just bought something from 47st and they  
also seem to close early for Shabbot.


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Re: PESO A date with mom

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Great capture  expressiong.
I only wish the guy in the ULH corner wasn't so distracting.


Great shot.

Perhaps cropping in a little tighter on the left, on a line about the  
point of the girls right elbow and the guy's left ear would help.




Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 


Subject: PESO A date with mom



At the coffee shop, K7D, DA* 50-135, f4 ISO 1600:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10600675size=lg



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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Sorenson

Subject: Re: OT - computer hard drive question


For Windows users, MicroSoft has a free, unsupported PowerToy called 
SyncToy that works well for backup and maintains the original file format. 
It comes in both 32 and 64-bit flavors.  You can find it here...



*http://tinyurl.com/2cu9fh*


SyncToy is what I use for routine back ups. It seems to do what it's 
supposed to.


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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
Ditto, I was just getting ready to order a camera from them as I have
many times in the past.  It is nice to see a company interested in
their customers and reputation.

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Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:39:16 PM, you wrote:

C Thanks for posting Paul. I have used B and H many times in the past
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Re: Peso: You lookin' at me?

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:12 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/yglce4d


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/776075473_h9ZL7/Medium


shot from the hip on the stroll with Boris last Sunday.


Great shot.  I love the compositional counter point between the puppy  
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Re: PESO A date with mom

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 31, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 Great capture  expressiong.
 I only wish the guy in the ULH corner wasn't so distracting.

Thanks Ken. I can easily get rid of him with clone and crop, and I considered 
it. I also considered cloning out the guy with the paper -- a bigger job, but 
definitely do-able. But I decided that I liked the sense of environment that 
the other customers communicate. Without them, it's an empty room.
Paul

 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: PESO A date with mom
 
 
 At the coffee shop, K7D, DA* 50-135, f4 ISO 1600:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10600675size=lg
 
 
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Re: OT - computer hard drive question

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 31/1/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:

btw, i'm not certain what Cotty's goal is with his procedure, but Mac
disks don't really need defragging:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375?viewlocale=en_US

so the only benefit i can see to Cotty's wipe  restore ritual is to
avoid filesystem corruption; it would save a lot of time and probably be
just as safe to simply run Disk Utility and verify the volume
periodically; then use the wipe and restore approach only if/when an
error is reported

 Thanks for this, v interesting.

That's why I said in my first response If the notion of doing this is
to reduce fragmentation and enhance performance ... 

Cotty uses his drive for video originals as well as editing scratch
space, which can indeed fill up most of the volume and cause
fragmentation. For most uses, Mac OS X systems volumes are pretty
unlikely to become fragmented, particularly if you maintain 20-30%
free space on your working volumes.

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Re: PESO A date with mom

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 31, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 
 Great capture  expressiong.
 I only wish the guy in the ULH corner wasn't so distracting.
 
 Great shot.
 
 Perhaps cropping in a little tighter on the left, on a line about the point 
 of the girls right elbow and the guy's left ear would help.

Thanks Larry. Getting rid of him completely is an easy clone and crop job, but 
I kind of like him there. There's stuff going on here!
Paul

 
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: PESO A date with mom
 
 
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10600675size=lg
 
 
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Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

Thanks for posting Paul. I have used B and H many times in the past
(even from the UK) and will continue to do so.

Same here. They're pretty much the only place I buy stuff any more and
I've always had great service from them. Even in person in the store
in NYC :-0


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Re: Peso: You lookin' at me?

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist
Nice shot. And he is looking at you!
Paul
On Jan 31, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:12 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yglce4d
 
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/776075473_h9ZL7/Medium
 
 
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 Great shot.  I love the compositional counter point between the puppy and 
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RE: You lookin' at me?

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: ann sanfedele


http://tinyurl.com/yglce4d


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/776075473_h9ZL7/Medium


shot from the hip on the stroll with Boris last Sunday.



Yeah, that got a laugh.

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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Of course, with a K10D and a macro lens capable of 1:2 magnification,
 you can set up a copystand rig that is both fast and produces 10Mpixel
 images.

 I've had very good results copying prints with my K20D. The only downside
 has been the time for setup - getting things perpendicular, adjusting the
 tripod for the proper distance.

I use a flatbed scanner for prints. A 4x6 print at a modest 1200 ppi
is a 33 Mpixel image, way more than needed for most things and plenty
of overhead for editing. No worries about setting up copy lighting,
reflections, focusing, etc.

When I use a copystand and camera, it is made perpendicular to the
base by using a hot shoe mounted two-axis bubble level. Tripods are
kinda clumsy at this job. I've shot negatives this way with the
copystand and macro lens using a flat-panel light box as a light
source, with good results. It works particularly well for some of my
ultraminiature negatives ... The L1 fitted with 1.4x teleconverter and
35 Macro can achieve a 1.4:1 magnification, which nets me a 7.5 Mpixel
image of my 8x11 mm Minox negatives. That's more data than I can get
out of a 2900 ppi film scanner ... 1.1 Mpixel ... and well worth the
fuss.
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Re: Scanners

2010-01-31 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Subject: Re: Scanners



On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Of course, with a K10D and a macro lens capable of 1:2 magnification,
you can set up a copystand rig that is both fast and produces 10Mpixel
images.


I've had very good results copying prints with my K20D. The only downside
has been the time for setup - getting things perpendicular, adjusting the
tripod for the proper distance.


I use a flatbed scanner for prints. A 4x6 print at a modest 1200 ppi
is a 33 Mpixel image, way more than needed for most things and plenty
of overhead for editing. No worries about setting up copy lighting,
reflections, focusing, etc.

When I use a copystand and camera, it is made perpendicular to the
base by using a hot shoe mounted two-axis bubble level. Tripods are
kinda clumsy at this job. I've shot negatives this way with the
copystand and macro lens using a flat-panel light box as a light
source, with good results. It works particularly well for some of my
ultraminiature negatives ... The L1 fitted with 1.4x teleconverter and
35 Macro can achieve a 1.4:1 magnification, which nets me a 7.5 Mpixel
image of my 8x11 mm Minox negatives. That's more data than I can get
out of a 2900 ppi film scanner ... 1.1 Mpixel ... and well worth the
fuss.


The best copystand I've used was one that I cobbled together from an old 
Omega enlarger. I took the head off of it and replaced that with a tripod 
head.
It would probably be pretty easy to make a slide copier by taking the head 
from the enlarger and turning it upside down on the baseboard and using that 
as the transilluminator.


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PAW4 - me again

2010-01-31 Thread DagT
A self portrait I made at a meeting in Munich in November...

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

K20D and DA* 55mm @ ISO800, f/1.4, 1/30s, hand held and using live view...

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Re: OT: Good news bad news

2010-01-31 Thread mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:


Good news: The house in Pittsburgh is sold. Closing is on March 1st
and we'll be looking for somewhere in Boston that's bigger than the
2-bedroom apartment we're currently occupying.

Bad news: Lisa went to Pittsburgh to do some clean up on the house and
attend to other business. She got a shoelace caught in the moving
sidewalk in the airport, fell and broke her wrist - badly. We'll know
in a couple of days if they're going to want to do surgery.

Interesting times, eh?


Not too interesting, I hope.  I especially hope that it does not affect 
her work.


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Re: PAW4 - me again

2010-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/10, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

A self portrait I made at a meeting in Munich in November...

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

K20D and DA* 55mm @ ISO800, f/1.4, 1/30s, hand held and using live view...
More like 'psychedelic view' !  Very good.

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mangling the subject lines

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen


I think that it might be William Robb's mail program that keeps  
prepending [SPAM] to the subject line of every email.


Since I tend to sort this mailbox by subject, it tends to split up a  
bunch of the threads into two places in the mailbox.  Is there some  
way the responsible spam filter could be tweaked to whitelist mail  
from PDML?



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Re: mangling the subject lines

2010-01-31 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen

Subject: mangling the subject lines




I think that it might be William Robb's mail program that keeps
prepending [SPAM] to the subject line of every email.

Since I tend to sort this mailbox by subject, it tends to split up a
bunch of the threads into two places in the mailbox.  Is there some  way
the responsible spam filter could be tweaked to whitelist mail  from PDML?




My mail filter already whitelists mail from the PDML, and to the best of my
knowledge isn't adding anything to the subject line other than Re:

The subject line that is attached to this email is:
Re: mangling the subject lines


William Robb


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PESO - Projection

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
A backlit stained glass window projected onto a wall in Christ Church 
Cathedral, Oxford.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10603019

(K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 800, f/8 @ 1/60)

Rick



  


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Re: mangling the subject lines

2010-01-31 Thread paul stenquist
I've never seen any additions to subject lines, other than RE, from Bill or 
anyone else. Some mail programs add junk or Spam tags to suspect mail, but 
mine has never tagged a PDML message.
Paul
On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:46 PM, William Robb wrote:

 
 - Original Message - From: Larry Colen
 Subject: mangling the subject lines
 
 
 
 I think that it might be William Robb's mail program that keeps
 prepending [SPAM] to the subject line of every email.
 
 Since I tend to sort this mailbox by subject, it tends to split up a
 bunch of the threads into two places in the mailbox.  Is there some  way
 the responsible spam filter could be tweaked to whitelist mail  from PDML?
 
 
 
 My mail filter already whitelists mail from the PDML, and to the best of my
 knowledge isn't adding anything to the subject line other than Re:
 
 The subject line that is attached to this email is:
 Re: mangling the subject lines
 
 
 William Robb
 
 
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2010 PDML Annual

2010-01-31 Thread John Sessoms
Two of my three have uploaded. Hopefully the third will manage to make 
it through before I have to shut this thing down tonight.


No squawks; tab says Loading..., the little dots keep spinning around 
  around and it just says Waiting for ... in the lower left corner.


The other two did the same thing, but didn't take as long. One of them 
did error out because Photoshop told me the file size was going to be 
3.5MB, and it ended up 3.8MB.


Just went back, dropped the quality from 12 down to 11 and resubmitted it.

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