[ql-users] Quanta membership
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I have changed the subject heading, to reflect the topic. - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC? Well ... 2 years is a long time in computing ... :-) ... so may be some optimism that new ideas can take seed. And in those 2 years 86 members (28% of the membership) have said goodbye to Quanta. I would love to know who they were and why they did. What have the officers done to find out? Yes, it obviously very difficult to get a response back from members who have left. Apart from the obvious like retirements and changes in circumstances, etc, there needs to be something to retain an interest. An electronic version of the magazine in PCF format is due to be launched soon. A letter or email to those members, no longer subscribing in the latter 2 to 3 years, informing them of this option; may get some interest again. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta membership Yes, it obviously very difficult to get a response back from members who have left. Quanta is small enough for most of the departed to be known names. If I were chairman I would be wanting a list of those names for clues to why they have left. Unfortunately Quanta has never really made the effort to find out anything about its members. The only people to do it in recent years have been John Southern and myself. I was on the committee at the time and neither of our surveys were discussed in any detail. (Mine was totally ignored, John's was just the reporting of the results.) A smaller Quanta is not necessarily a bad thing. If it was more homogenous it would be easier for the committee to serve the members. A Quanta of just 50 people could contribute greatly to the QL community provided they were active members. (And there are probably at least 50 people who attend shows and/or are active in subgroups.) Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta membership renewal
Please excuse my use of this forum for the following message to any quanta members who may be monitoring this users list: With the June/July 2005 issue of Quanta Magazine, those members who normally renew in July will have received a Renewal Due letter which requests that you complete the attached form and return it to me with your subscription. Unfortunately, the printer omitted to enclose the form. Please follow whichever step is most convenient to you: 1)Please send me your cheque with your full name and address on the back - or write your name and address on the back of the renewal letter and forward it with your cheque to me in the usual way. I will make out the forms upon receipt of your cheque. 2)If you wish to pay by credit card, post your card details to me and I will make a form out on receipt. 3)Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will email you a form to use in the usual way. 4)Ring me to discuss what to do, on - 0161 - 865 2872 Please accept my apologies and those of the printer for this error and any inconvenience caused. What we DON'T want you to do is not renew your membership. Thank you. John Gilpin. Quanta Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 19:15:47, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:48:49, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The London Group have a couple of repair jobs for you at the Byfleet meeting next week :-) Noted. I have a rehearsal in Berkhamsted at 16:30 so I will be leaving a bit before 15:30. Ken Brickwood - can you please remind me to bring your minisQL nearer the day. I will charge only a standard QL repair cost. The CF reader fitted in very well and it was all working when I did it (months ago!). Better if I remind you to remind yourself to bring the minisQL to Byfleet, as he did mention it at the last London Group meeting. Seriously, please remind me on Saturday. I have been carrying the d*d thing to shows for months, but sods law will say I forget this time. OK. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 at 21:33:07, P Witte wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman writes: I did check it out, and it looks great! My problem is not with your form, but that I dont think the questions have been well enough thought through, and that was not your department. Can the form be filled in off-line and then be uploaded on a second connection? No - it relies on a POST operation. Well, I did fill it in off-line and submitted it on the next dialup. Thank goodness for that! Ah I misunderstood. Yes of course you can do that. It needs no internet connection while you are using the form - it does not check on the fly. I have now corrected today's bugs (I hope). The insisting on 'yes' was down to me using == as a perl string comparitor. It needs eq (8-(# I have now extended it to non-Quanta members, and will then only store in my local database. although, John S, I could easily mail -all- replies to you as well. What do you want me to do? You can easily identify non Quanta members on the form results. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:48:49, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The London Group have a couple of repair jobs for you at the Byfleet meeting next week :-) Noted. I have a rehearsal in Berkhamsted at 16:30 so I will be leaving a bit before 15:30. Ken Brickwood - can you please remind me to bring your minisQL nearer the day. I will charge only a standard QL repair cost. The CF reader fitted in very well and it was all working when I did it (months ago!). Better if I remind you to remind yourself to bring the minisQL to Byfleet, as he did mention it at the last London Group meeting. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership survey
Even better than that with my 1920 x 1200 :) On Nov 21, 2004, at 8:08 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 01:50:03, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 01:14 22/11/2004 +, you wrote: 1680 wide screen. Must be a wet dream for many and it is often on my lap (8-)# 1680 x 1050 is a fabulous size. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 11:49:39, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) TF 1640 x 1050 screen Even better than that with my 1920 x 1200 :) Sounds like boasting in the showers (8-)# ... but this is on my laptop. Nasta made a lovely comment once. I said he ought to keep his emails to one page. He said it was on his similar sized screen to yours (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 19:15:47, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:48:49, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The London Group have a couple of repair jobs for you at the Byfleet meeting next week :-) Noted. I have a rehearsal in Berkhamsted at 16:30 so I will be leaving a bit before 15:30. Ken Brickwood - can you please remind me to bring your minisQL nearer the day. I will charge only a standard QL repair cost. The CF reader fitted in very well and it was all working when I did it (months ago!). Better if I remind you to remind yourself to bring the minisQL to Byfleet, as he did mention it at the last London Group meeting. Seriously, please remind me on Saturday. I have been carrying the d*d thing to shows for months, but sods law will say I forget this time. TOny -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 21 Nov 2004 at 4:30, Tony Firshman wrote: I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Tony (and David!) as I said in an earlier email, don't punish this community in its entirety because of one (or several) disparaging comments made on/off this list. C'me on people, this is the real world - some people WILL not like what you say, WILL make fun of you, WILL ignore you etc... That doesn't mean that most of them will think the same. And, David, just because you have no reaction doesn't mean that you haven't be read and aprreciated. This, I think, is part of the nature of this list. Let's not take ourselves too seriously! Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On 21 Nov 2004 at 1:13, Tony Firshman wrote: PS I hope the Quanta committee will comment. I would be happy to finish the code if they will use it. On the subject of the formn isn't that one written by the canadian Paragraph? Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 10:02:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 21 Nov 2004 at 4:30, Tony Firshman wrote: I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Tony (and David!) as I said in an earlier email, don't punish this community in its entirety because of one (or several) disparaging comments made on/off this list. C'me on people, this is the real world - some people WILL not like what you say, WILL make fun of you, WILL ignore you etc... That doesn't mean that most of them will think the same. And, David, just because you have no reaction doesn't mean that you haven't be read and aprreciated. This, I think, is part of the nature of this list. Let's not take ourselves too seriously! I mean for the questionnaire. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 10:20:07, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 21 Nov 2004 at 1:13, Tony Firshman wrote: PS I hope the Quanta committee will comment. I would be happy to finish the code if they will use it. On the subject of the formn isn't that one written by the canadian Paragraph? It is - amended. It the cold light of day, I am not feeling so angry. I am glad the msg I refer to did not actually reach the list, although I think it was meant to. Was it moderated? I hope the sender will not make it public as it too was an angry email which did not help the situation. I don't think he reads the list, but can those on the committee pass the message on please. You know who I am talking about probably. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Survey
At 04:30 21/11/2004 +, you wrote: Tony wrote The -whole- point of doing the on-line survey was to get someone on the Quanta committee to say they would like to use the form. A forlorn hope I am sure. But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. There has been some pretty sarcastic comment about me personally in a private email (I think) from a Quanta committee member on another matter which, on reflection, has annoyed me more than I thought at the time. I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Quite understandable, there seem to be many more knockers than constructivists here. All my inputs here have generated are facile denials of my assertion that no one is without access to the www. If your troglodyte BC chooses not to avail himself then that his choice. My, you must have had a night of it, I find myself living upside down times these nights. DT ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On 21 Nov 2004 at 14:09, David Tubbs wrote: But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. Yes of course, why didn't I think of that? Why don't you, Tony, make this available on your website and poll the results yourself? I'm sure it would be very interesting for all of us! (...) Quite understandable, there seem to be many more knockers than constructivists here. All my inputs here have generated are facile denials of my assertion that no one is without access to the www. If your troglodyte BC chooses not to avail himself then that his choice. No, actually it isn't. As for the subject matter itself: You said NO one is without access to the Web. I state to you that I know somebody who is. Instead of acknowledging that, thus, the above assertion is not right, you simply say oh this is by his own choice. 1 - Does it matter? the fact is that there is at least one QL person without access to the web, proving your assertion wrong. 2 - How could you possibly know why that person doesn't have access to the web? My, you must have had a night of it, I find myself living upside down times these nights. Move to Australia ? :-) (I include the emoticon to show you that this was supposed to be a joke and not a flippant remark by which I'd disregard your comments - okay) Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Survey
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:18:38, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 21 Nov 2004 at 14:09, David Tubbs wrote: But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. Yes of course, why didn't I think of that? Why don't you, Tony, make this available on your website and poll the results yourself? I'm sure it would be very interesting for all of us! OK that is a good compromise. I will change it to a more general survey and simply manipulate a database myself locally. That will be easier than assembling the results in email form. I will modify the form and invite comments please. This form will be there for years to come, so it is important to get it as complete as possible right from the start. I have to go out today, but will start the job this evening. Still no comment from anyone on the committee about the form detail or whether they want to use it. Mind you come to think of it I have only talked about it on the list - whoops. I will email the committee direct. (Is that phrased better David T (8-)# That is what I meant to say the first time. I have known you too long to imply you don't matter!) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Tony Firshman schrieb: OK - I have put my money where my mouth is: http://www.firshman.co.uk/scripts/qq.cgi The form is the only thing there that works so far. I would appreciate comments, especially to complete the drop down lists. Some are -very- incomplete! I have added two extra items to section 5, or am I misreading the question on the original form. To me that is asking the questionee whether they want to personally develop software and/or hardware. well done tony! better to do something than just complain! wouldn't it be good to expand the printer-section to esc/p2|pcl|postscript? (relating to the nerver lasting printer discussion in here?) wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 18:58:08, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I am disappointed at the response to my form. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. I should have gone to bed instead. Give people time to respond ... John Mason had time to write that angry email (8-)# What was the address again ? You have probably seen it a dozen times since you wrote this but it is: http://firshman.co.uk/scripts/qq.cgi Thanks, Tony. And keep up the good work. The London Group have a couple of repair jobs for you at the Byfleet meeting next week :-) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
Hi Tony, Guess what, Safari was interpreting your page perfectly and Firefox was being a bit generous. It turns out it is an easy fix (and very easy not too see). Here is what I found. Original code: Do you subscribe to the QL mailing list? input type=radio name=mailing value=yesYes input type=radio name=mailing value=noNo nbsp;(see a href=http://www.quanta.org.uk/; target='Uhttp://www.quanta.org.uk//a for details)BR Correction: - where it says target='U - change it to saytarget=U Note that the original page uses a single ' and a double . Safari sees the single ' and then looks for a matching single '. You have it correct elsewhere. Fun stuff :) Could you also ask the following type of questions: Hard Disk - what size Rom Disk - what size SMSQ/E - what rev Memory - what size Thanks! jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Survey
Either this email is intended to make us all feel really good about how our day is going or to show that you always have backup plans (won't even ask about the spare rear doors :) ). Cheers, jim On Nov 21, 2004, at 12:23 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 14:09:20, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 04:30 21/11/2004 +, you wrote: Tony wrote The -whole- point of doing the on-line survey was to get someone on the Quanta committee to say they would like to use the form. A forlorn hope I am sure. But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. Quite understandable, there seem to be many more knockers than constructivists here. All my inputs here have generated are facile denials of my assertion that no one is without access to the www. If your troglodyte BC chooses not to avail himself then that his choice. My, you must have had a night of it, I find myself living upside down times these nights. I had just got back from rescuing a worldnews machine. The Linux machines rumble on almost without attention. This is a W2003 machine. Windows locked up on closing. When we did a power cycle, we found that W2003 had successfully managed to destroy the boot sector on both raid mirror disks! Brilliant achievement Bill (8-)# We have so many troubles with windows that we will move this machine to linux and run a Windows emulator under Linux. Ridiculous isn't it. On the way back, I got out of the car to buy petrol, but somehow the door did not unlock. I had to break a window to get back in. Fortunately I have at least 4 spare rear doors at the bottom of the garden! I turned -off- my phone to avoid the 08:30 church alarm. The ry thing turned itself on again to sound the alarm (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 12:27:49, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Either this email is intended to make us all feel really good about how our day is going or to show that you always have backup plans (won't even ask about the spare rear doors :) ). Not just rear doors (8-)# Mind you Bill Cable has spare -cars- Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:48:49, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The London Group have a couple of repair jobs for you at the Byfleet meeting next week :-) Noted. I have a rehearsal in Berkhamsted at 16:30 so I will be leaving a bit before 15:30. Ken Brickwood - can you please remind me to bring your minisQL nearer the day. I will charge only a standard QL repair cost. The CF reader fitted in very well and it was all working when I did it (months ago!). Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Now that is what I call service. The reason I was wondering about the memory size has to do with users who have a modified QL with hard drive or Rom disk who might want to run QDT. While relatively compact, once you start putting alternate backgrounds (screen sizes/themes) and tons of icons, it may have a performance impact (or might not). Also might make a difference if this ghostscript printer conversation goes somewhere. I saw everything but the size of the hard drive in the update. And it works just fine now in Safari - Thanks! Cheers, jim On Nov 21, 2004, at 12:42 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 10:39:54, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hi Tony, Guess what, Safari was interpreting your page perfectly and Firefox was being a bit generous. It turns out it is an easy fix (and very easy not too see). Here is what I found. Original code: Do you subscribe to the QL mailing list? input type=radio name=mailing value=yesYes input type=radio name=mailing value=noNo nbsp;(see a href=http://www.quanta.org.uk/; target='Uhttp://www.quanta.org.uk//a for details)BR Correction: - where it says target='U - change it to say target=U Note that the original page uses a single ' and a double . Safari sees the single ' and then looks for a matching single '. You have it correct elsewhere. Whoops - full marks to Safari. There were many more like that which I spotted earlier (under firefox). Fun stuff :) Indeed. MSIE is very bad at 'intelligently' wrong html, much like QDOS and bad basic. Firefox is better, but not a sgood as Safari. Could you also ask the following type of questions: Hard Disk - what size Rom Disk - what size SMSQ/E - what rev Memory - what size Done (except memory - expansion type gets near enough!) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 13:25:24, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Now that is what I call service. The reason I was wondering about the memory size has to do with users who have a modified QL with hard drive or Rom disk who might want to run QDT. While relatively compact, once you start putting alternate backgrounds (screen sizes/themes) and tons of icons, it may have a performance impact (or might not). Also might make a difference if this ghostscript printer conversation goes somewhere. I saw everything but the size of the hard drive in the update. Done And it works just fine now in Safari - Thanks! Done Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 00:23:42, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) comments to present survey version:- Section 2, I suggest that use for faxing might be in a section on how electronic communication is achieved - QL modem or other means. Also what other computer system might be in use - PC, MAC or UNIX/LINUX ?? Section 3, Other addon cards, E-Progger - A/D card , any others ? Other motherboards ? Section 4, If it is to get a broader circulation - Are you still a mamber, and when did you cease to be ? General - I rarely use a full screen window, plays some havoc with checkbox separating from title. Yes, but I have kept the general width very small. I use a window on my screen, and it doesn't break awkwardly and it is only filling about 1/3 of the screen width on a 1680 wide screen. That is less than 600, and should suit all screens. ... and of course you can always adjust text size. Perhaps Text boxes with the Others I think I will have to draw the line now without your first three good suggestions. Quanta have said they will use the form, and I have to get the core programming done quickly. Once that is done, I may add more. Thanks for all your comments. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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At 01:14 22/11/2004 +, you wrote: 1680 wide screen. Must be a wet dream for many ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 20 Nov 2004 at 1:10, Tony Firshman wrote: OK - I have put my money where my mouth is: (what you bought more beer?) http://www.firshman.co.uk/scripts/qq.cgi The form is the only thing there that works so far. BUT YOU CAN'T SUBMIT IT (...) What year did Quanta start? 1984 Spreadsheet : Add Qspread Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:13:18, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership BTW is it now policy not to send the mag to advertisers? The last one I have is April this year. Tony The last one I received was August/September (7/8). Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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- Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Quanta membership Geoff - I thought you are a committee member : customer care would suggest that you should offer to get the potential new member contacted by the correct Quanta membership secretary tonight : he (the membership secretary if this list is an accurate barometer must be thirsting for his first new signing anyway) :) A fair rebuke here. I assume that John Gilpin is already in contact with people who via this list say they have been unable to renew their membership. If there is anyone who still has a problem, could they please email me privately and I will chase it up. Please include a keyword such as Quanta in the subject line so that I don't accidentally delete your message as spam, Best wishes, Geoff gwicks @ beeb.net ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Mike MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Survey At 01:10 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: Nice one Tony. Action better than words. Good to see the year joined question, ofcourse it should not need to be asked. But I think it is important when considering how Q would use accrued capital which should be equitably done in favour of the longest contributors. I fear when you consider the thousands of members, who have contributed over many years, but have now given up, been put off, or not renewed for whatever reason, you may have, quite justifiably, a demand for their inclusion in allocation of funds. Mike ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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I am disappointed at the response to my form. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. I should have gone to bed instead. Pity. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Hi, Tony Firshman wrote: I am disappointed at the response to my form. You shouldn't be. You have done your best. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. Add 1 to that number. I'm not a Quanta member and I have no intention to become one. It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. I should have gone to bed instead. Isn't that somewhat too early on a Saturday night? :) François Van Emelen Pity. Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 17:43:45, François Van Emelen wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: I am disappointed at the response to my form. You shouldn't be. You have done your best. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. Add 1 to that number. I'm not a Quanta member and I have no intention to become one. You misunderstood. I meant only two have made suggestions on 'corrections' to the form. I still have nothing from the people that matter on whether my form is going to be used. It would be good to hear something though (8-(# It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Firshman wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 17:43:45, Francois Van Emelen wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: I am disappointed at the response to my form. You shouldn't be. You have done your best. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. Add 1 to that number. I'm not a Quanta member and I have no intention to become one. You misunderstood. I meant only two have made suggestions on 'corrections' to the form. I still have nothing from the people that matter on whether my form is going to be used. It would be good to hear something though (8-(# It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. How do Qx0 and Thor users fill in the form, when all the questions are about black box QLs? -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/accus/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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- Original Message - From: SMSQ - Jochen Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Tony Firshman wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:13:18, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership BTW is it now policy not to send the mag to advertisers? The last one I have is April this year. Tony The last one I received was August/September (7/8). Jochen Then you are up to date Jochen.The next one Oct/Nov is at the printers and is due to be distributed any day now. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 09:39 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: There was another mainboard by a guy in Sawston Cambs ? Other add ons - Eprom Progger, A/D Converter Nome brewed stuff I thought drunk Nomes sat in gardens (8-)# Tony Such a dismissive response ! I do beg your pardon, never mind, run the whole thing for a guy with phone line but not prepared like the rest to take up the WWW. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 18:12:10, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 09:39 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: There was another mainboard by a guy in Sawston Cambs ? Other add ons - Eprom Progger, A/D Converter Nome brewed stuff I thought drunk Nomes sat in gardens (8-)# Tony Such a dismissive response ! I do beg your pardon, never mind, run the whole thing for a guy with phone line but not prepared like the rest to take up the WWW. You are touchy David. Maybe too much Nome brew (8-)# I was joking about your mistyping only. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Hi Tony, Just trying to catch up - had taken a quick glance but wasn't quite clear on if you were asking for input on the form itself or wanting people to fill it in - now I understand. It would be a shame if this form was not used. I had looked at the Quanta location and, believe me, with time constraints, I can't see myself or many others actually taking the time to print it, fill it in, and mailing it (especially from the States). There is a reason why I use email and websites versus snail mail :) By the way, as to the form, the final line shows Do you subscribe to the QL mailing list? Yes No (see and then stops there. See what? Also, how would someone submit this (a Submit button?). Is this supposed to be an email submitted form or some other way. If so, what about security (don't want the spammers to latch onto the address)? Cheers, jim On Nov 20, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 17:41:26, Tarquin Mills wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Firshman wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 17:43:45, Francois Van Emelen wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: I am disappointed at the response to my form. You shouldn't be. You have done your best. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. Add 1 to that number. I'm not a Quanta member and I have no intention to become one. You misunderstood. I meant only two have made suggestions on 'corrections' to the form. I still have nothing from the people that matter on whether my form is going to be used. It would be good to hear something though (8-(# It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. How do Qx0 and Thor users fill in the form, when all the questions are about black box QLs? True. That is a very major omission isn't it. I have added something: http://firshman.co.uk/scripts/qq.cgi However I think this form will not be seeing the light of day. There is a resounding silence from those who matter. I am disappointed. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 18:24 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: You are touchy David. Maybe too much Nome brew (8-)# I was joking about your mistyping only. OK, a typo - big deal ! Surely the Tinkerers have been adding bits of their own making ? I thought only to make an intelligent contribution, but evidently I don't matter. But do those who do ? Seems to me as an outsider, more interested in the QL than Quanta that the problems can be divided in two parts. What Quanta can and may do with it's reserves, and should it continue to exist to give committee members titles ? How best to achieve good communication and help between users of the QL family of equipment. The latter is not dependent on the existence or inactivity of Quanta. A decent web site, with a range of info and links to all other resources, would not need itself to hold all files software. Might include a decent forum such as I have seen at PCanswers and Mozilla for example. Where threads are maintained and we don't need to wade across two pages of overblown header an superfluous quoted requoted quotes to find an insignificant response. It could include a shielded area to which users might upload a contribution, wikpedia is clever in that way. The survey does not need the cooperation of those that matter, surely Geoff could legitimately mail the membership and traders could add further users. I have more time than techno competences but would be prepared to undertake compiling the responses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Tony Firshman writes: I am disappointed at the response to my form. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. I should have gone to bed instead. Pity. I did check it out, and it looks great! My problem is not with your form, but that I dont think the questions have been well enough thought through, and that was not your department. Can the form be filled in off-line and then be uploaded on a second connection? Since I havent had any response to my reservations, I must assume everyone thinks the survey will provide the sort of answers we can do something with. Or perhaps theyre just being typical, bloody-minded ql-ers, and are just not going to say - but also not going to fill in the form. When the few unsuspecting sheep who neither agree nor disagree have filled it in, someone will no doubt grumble and the form will be changed. When, after much soul-searching, compromise and hard work, the form is finally perfected, no one will bother to fill it in, because the grumblers never intended to fill it in in the first place, and the sheep will be confused and discouraged. Thus another collective QL undertaking will falter, as they almost invariably do. Perhaps Duncan can check his Civil Servant Guide to see if this behaviour is described anywhere? Perhaps under Lemmings? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 11:19:18, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hi Tony, Just trying to catch up - had taken a quick glance but wasn't quite clear on if you were asking for input on the form itself or wanting people to fill it in - now I understand. It would be a shame if this form was not used. I had looked at the Quanta location and, believe me, with time constraints, I can't see myself or many others actually taking the time to print it, fill it in, and mailing it (especially from the States). There is a reason why I use email and websites versus snail mail :) By the way, as to the form, the final line shows Do you subscribe to the QL mailing list? Yes No (see and then stops there. See what? You must have seen a version I was editing. The form does not stop there Also, how would someone submit this (a Submit button?). Is this supposed to be an email submitted form or some other way. If so, what about security (don't want the spammers to latch onto the address)? It is a cgi generated page. The submit button will be just that and nothing more. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Quanta membership Geoff - I thought you are a committee member : customer care would suggest that you should offer to get the potential new member contacted by the correct Quanta membership secretary tonight : he (the membership secretary if this list is an accurate barometer must be thirsting for his first new signing anyway) :) A fair rebuke here. I assume that John Gilpin is already in contact with people who via this list say they have been unable to renew their membership. If there is anyone who still has a problem, could they please email me privately and I will chase it up. Please include a keyword such as Quanta in the subject line so that I don't accidentally delete your message as spam, Best wishes, Geoff Geoff is quite correct. I am in contact with Delwin Vriend who has indicated that he is interested in becoming a Quanta Member and also Mike MacNamara whose renewal was missed causing his membership to lapse some years ago. John Gilpin. Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 18:58:08, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I am disappointed at the response to my form. I have only had two people commenting on the content, and not from the right quarters. It looks like my attempt to inject some positiveness into the issue has fallen flat. I should have gone to bed instead. Give people time to respond ... John Mason had time to write that angry email (8-)# What was the address again ? You have probably seen it a dozen times since you wrote this but it is: http://firshman.co.uk/scripts/qq.cgi Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 20:38:55, P Witte wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman writes: I did check it out, and it looks great! My problem is not with your form, but that I dont think the questions have been well enough thought through, and that was not your department. Can the form be filled in off-line and then be uploaded on a second connection? No - it relies on a POST operation. TOny -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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By the way, as to the form, the final line shows Do you subscribe to the QL mailing list? Yes No (see and then stops there. See what? You must have seen a version I was editing. The form does not stop there Interesting. In Apple's Safari, I emptied the cache and reloaded it - quit in the same place. But using Firefox, it shows a lot more, presumably all the way to the end. Anything special you are doing with your CGI that might be pseudo standard? I see in your source at this 'stop' point: input type=radio name=mailing value=yesYes input type=radio name=mailing value=noNo nbsp;(see a href=http://www.quanta.org.uk/; target='Uhttp://www.quanta.org.uk//a for details)BR What is the radio name type? This seems to be where Safari stops. I am forwarding this to Apple to see if they have comments. If I hear anything I will let you know but I suspect that I won't. Normally they just fix things if something is broken and it shows up in the next update. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 16:04:43, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) By the way, as to the form, the final line shows Do you subscribe to the QL mailing list? Yes No (see and then stops there. See what? You must have seen a version I was editing. The form does not stop there Interesting. In Apple's Safari, I emptied the cache and reloaded it - quit in the same place. But using Firefox, it shows a lot more, presumably all the way to the end. Anything special you are doing with your CGI that might be pseudo standard? I see in your source at this 'stop' point: input type=radio name=mailing value=yesYes input type=radio name=mailing value=noNo nbsp;(see a href=http://www.quanta.org. What is the radio name type? This seems to be where Safari stops. Haven't a clue I am afraid. This is all pretty std stuff and I am following the 'camel' to the letter. I am forwarding this to Apple to see if they have comments. If I hear anything I will let you know but I suspect that I won't. Normally they just fix things if something is broken and it shows up in the next update. Looks like Apple is at fault. I am away from base on a crappy small screen and keyboard so cannot easily look at my code. You will see the whole html source under firefox. Thanks for comments, Tony PS I hope the Quanta committee will comment. I would be happy to finish the code if they will use it. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 21:59 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: I thought only to make an intelligent contribution, but evidently I don't matter. Who said that? I certainly didn't. Tony OH YES YOU DID ! I still have nothing from the people that matter Added to which both my considered responses merited no comment at all. Two earlier more conversational ripostes failed to gain acknowledgement. I'm sorry , I think I can take the hint. Bye ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 23:53:47, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 21:59 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: I thought only to make an intelligent contribution, but evidently I don't matter. Who said that? I certainly didn't. Tony OH YES YOU DID ! I still have nothing from the people that matter Added to which both my considered responses merited no comment at all. Two earlier more conversational ripostes failed to gain acknowledgement. I'm sorry , I think I can take the hint. This is getting really really silly David. Of course I read and took your comments into account. I was not not not not not not saying you didn't matter. I see what you mean now. The -whole- point of doing the on-line survey was to get someone on the Quanta committee to say they would like to use the form. There has been some pretty sarcastic comment about me personally in a private email (I think) from a Quanta committee member on another matter which, on reflection, has annoyed me more than I thought at the time. I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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My first post to this list myself - hello from San Francisco. I had been interested in even just becoming a member of Quanta but when I contacted whomever was provided as the membership contact I never got a response. Don't know what sort of time commitment Quanta committee membership would be, but I might be interested. Of course, from the posts that have gone by in this list over the past couple months, it almost sounds as if they are the evil ones... I am myself just getting back to my QL (after 15 years) and am looking at developing some hardware (ethernet connection) and likely some software too; although, other than the ethernet drivers, I don't have many ideas yet. I have seen some of the work done with some of the IP stacks and seen the occassional discussion of some progress but don't see much info on that end either. Delwin Vriend 1.Develop internet software for all common ql platforms - Black box, (S)GC, Aurora, Qx0 etc. 2.Encourage Quanta members to use the software 1. above and to access the user list, Web Site etc. Provide practical help with this for members who need it - I'm sure I'm not the only one!!! 3.Develop the Web Site so that all Quanta services - Magazine, Software Library, Help line, Back Issues, Advertisements etc. etc. can be accessed by all members. - with up to date links to other websites related to QL. It is the 21st Century. Can we drag ourselves out of the (early) middle ages? Now, it seems to me that the first step is to appoint a Web Master - any offers? The Quanta committee is down to its minimum number of members. As Geoff has said on many occasions, we have the ideas but not the manpower to execute them all. Is ANYBODY offering their help? John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 03:56:47, Delwin Vriend wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) My first post to this list myself - hello from San Francisco. I had been interested in even just becoming a member of Quanta but when I contacted whomever was provided as the membership contact I never got a response. (8-(# Maybe you should re-send the email. I know the membership secretary was having temporary problems getting emails, as a couple from me bounced. Don't know what sort of time commitment Quanta committee membership would be, but I might be interested. Of course, from the posts that have gone by in this list over the past couple months, it almost sounds as if they are the evil ones... It would be a mite difficult to be an active committee member in San Fransisco - all committee meetings are in the UK as far as I know. I see no reason though why the website could not be run from there. I am myself just getting back to my QL (after 15 years) and am looking at developing some hardware (ethernet connection) and likely some software too; although, other than the ethernet drivers, I don't have many ideas yet. I have seen some of the work done with some of the IP stacks and seen the occassional discussion of some progress but don't see much info on that end either. Any work on getting internet access, browsers etc would be good. Have you seen the efforts of Jon Dent? He has gone quite a long way down the road, but I suspect has not enough time. I wonder, Jon, whether there is scope here for delegation/cooperation? Do your talents stretch to networking/internet drivers etc, Delwin? Tony PS are you still interested in a superHermes? -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:13:18, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. That is what I said (see above). It got through on the third attempt. The irony was that I was asking for a Quanta ad for the emailshot. All I got was a description of the show location, directions etc which I already have. I got no reply to the follow-up request for the ad, so Quanta yet again was not in the emailshot. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk ... but that was presumably the one used. I used secretary @ quanta.org.uk BTW is it now policy not to send the mag to advertisers? The last one I have is April this year. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Quanta membership
Geoff - I thought you are a committee member : customer care would suggest that you should offer to get the potential new member contacted by the correct Quanta membership secretary tonight : he (the membership secretary if this list is an accurate barometer must be thirsting for his first new signing anyway) :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 19 November 2004 20:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
Geoff, It is at least 7 or so yrs since my membership lapsed. I returned the S O form, if I remember they stopped taking from my bank, then I tried by credit card . Despite letters, requests, attempts by any means available, I have had no return contact. - I did try and try and try I have always supported the QL, and was most miffed by this and the quality of the 'management' Regards Mike MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk Best Wishes, Geoff Apart from the address that Geoff recommends above, I am still receiving on [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if you want to be absolutely sure, use [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is that if emails go astray, the intended recipient is not aware that they were ever sent in the first place so doesn't report it. I have had one request for membership today and already responded with full details. Lapsed membership? Surely we can put that right. John Gilpin, Quanta Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 01:10:53, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) OK - I have put my money where my mouth is: http://www.firshman.co.uk/scripts/qq.cgi The form is the only thing there that works so far. I would appreciate comments, especially to complete the drop down lists. They are now (correctly) checkboxes! Some are -very- incomplete! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
Cool! I know when I was just out of high-school with the QL in Edmonton, AB (Canada), I was very much alone with my QL. So good to know its not complete isolation here. :-) Caught me by surprise! Another QL person in northern California? Hi Delwin, I am down in Redwood City and Tim is over in the East Bay. There may be a few other stragglers around too. Welcome back to the QL scene. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
