I found this website with nice swiss collars, priced very reasonably. Just
wanted to share it, I am ordering Tango a red one.
http://www.collarshop.com/alcowleatdog.html
Tina and Tango
Central PA
We have one and use it only when teaching a young dog to walk at our side.
We never have to do any correction with it, just the fact that it is there
on the dog tells them we must walk by our master.
With a regular collar, leather or choke chain our 10 month old male wants to
meet and love each
I have stayed out of this discussion so far as my experience with prong
collars is only second hand. However when we were in Germany in 1990 we
watched two good Rottie friends (very experienced trainers) trying to
deprogramme a German Shepherd that had been trained on a prong collar. The
owner had
seen have been those trained (jerked around) w/ a choke collar by
someone who thought he/she knew what he/she was doing. Damage to the trachea is also a
big concern w/ choke collars.
Also, we can agree to disagree. We can politely discusss the merits and drawbacks of
training methods. Ex: While I
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I use a prong collar on my 130# berner-boy, Ian if we are going places that he might
lunge or pull my arm off! g Normally he is good on a round leather collar and will
stay by my side.
I feel it is better than choking him on a choke collar which can do damage to his
throat area. He behaves
Several trainers have written wonderful accounts of the proper use and
benefits of a prong collar. These collars do look like midevil torture
devices I'm sure we all agree. But looks can be deceiving.
In working with pet owners for many years, I discovered that a prong
collar is gift in some
Cathi
Massillon Ohio
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:54 PM
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Just a comment that I wanted to make regarding this topic. I posed the
question a couple of months ago, about the use of different collars when I
was having problems with getting Stevie under control (he thinks he is
Pegasus when it comes to birds!) and after sustaining a rotator cuff injury
Forwarded in plain text for Vilma:
In a message dated 7/29/2003 9:48:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there a proper way to put on a prong collar?
Yes, it is very easy. Just take it apart in the middle and put it back together on the
dog. Simply squeeze any two of
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In a message dated 7/29/2003 12:40:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
prong collars are forbiddenand even if they was not forbidden I would not use
them. The feeling of the best for the dog is always the most important, more
Hi all,
Just my personal experience-at around 8 months of age we needed some extra
help with Bacchus. He was full of himself and I couldn't take the chance of
him pulling me off my feet on a walk [I've had a total knee replacement,
broke my hipetc, blah, blah].
We were taking obedience
I've long been looking for a nice, rounded, buckle
collar. The flat one that Louis has at the moment is
fine but ruins his hair.
I've looked for a long time now but never come across
one, here in The Netherlands. The other day I was in
a pet shop and a very helpful and very, very tall and
When I showed up with Chelsea at our first puppy class
(3.5 mos old), she was wearing her harness. It's a
harness she wears in the car so she can be buckled in
to the seat belt, but you can also attach it to a leash
for walks. The instructor said that when
walking/training her, a buckle collar
In a message dated 07/11/2003 2:49:50 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Was he right?
My experience over the years is that there is far LESS control with a harness
than a collar as the dog can throw its entire weight into the chest strap.
That's one of the reasons
Dear List;
For all of you who emailed me privately, I'm sorry that I forgot to add the
website. I think I was tired by then and copied it from my Leolist friend
but didn't paste it into the email.
So, here it is... to http://www.collarbone.net
Jeanne Schoech, please disregard the last website
Hello List!
A friend with Leonbergers forwarded me this website for a decorative
leather, hand-crafted collar with the Bern crest on it. If you view the web
site, click on the Leonberger breed for a picture of the actual collar (of
course it would have the Bern crest instead). Just thought I
Hi,
I encourage all puppy owners to attend a behaviourist run Puppy
Kindergarten and to study basic obedience in a motivational environment. I
too dislike training where harsh methods are used, not everyone is born
with the skill to communicate with their dog and they must be helped with
guidance
Margareta
Same applies in S Africa except that it is KUSA (our official Kennel Club)
that bans prong, spike or electric collars for use at any affiliated club.
However, they are not unknown in private training clubs!
We have never used anything but positive training on our own dogs
Hi,
All collars have the potential to injure the dog and so do head halter type
collars. The answer is in teaching your dog to focus on you and let the dog
know what is expected of him. How many times I see people hauling their dog
around with the dog gagging and the human straining on the other
and I do not enjoy competitions in general and not competitions in
obedience.
I see no need for prong or pitch collars or no other cruelty to animals.
I leave this topic and will in the future concentrate on the positive things
discusssed on the list and how we as humans can help our Bernerfriends
Terry,
I understand about the collars. My Splash girl pulls
like a freight train. Even worse when she spots a
squirrel. Not anymore though!
Our trainer recommened a new type of harness for us.
It is called a Sensation Harness made by a company out
of California called Soft Concepts. We
Hi,
I got information on prong or pinch collars.
It is forbidden to use these kind of collars in Sweden.
We saw them sometimes many, many years ago and noone would even dream of
using this kind of torture for their pets or members of the families as the
dogs are.
Very sorry to understand
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Has there been a definitive conclusion of what collars are best to use with
Berners? I have switched from a prong collar to a buckle collar. Our berner
girl of 9 months doesn't seem to mind pulling on the leash with either one.
My wife swears by the prong collar and I refuse to put her on it. Any
I have a 9 month old girl who is quite spirited and loves to play with
other dogs. . We used a buckle collar when she was younger and switched
to a prong collar after 7 months. I have found the prong collar to be of
limited use. I thought perhaps we just had a berner that didn't respond
like other
Karen, I just wanted to second Vilma's post that prong or pinch collars, if
used properly, are very useful, humane tools for most dogs. As I also
thought they looked like a medieval torture device, I was shocked to see at
my first Berner specialty that most of the dogs were wearing one!! My
Karen --
Take a look at the no-pull harness shown here:
http://www.petsmart.com/dog/shopping/collars%5F%5Fleashes%5F%5F%5Fid%5Ftags/harnesses%5Fand%5Fmuzzles/products/product%5F11833.shtml.
We used a very similar one on 2 of our dogs who pulled terribly - a 65 lb
husky-x and a 95 lb intact BMD
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Berner List
Subject: Re: Karen and Stevie-Collars.
Karen --
Take a look at the no-pull harness shown here:
http://www.petsmart.com/dog/shopping/collars%5F%5Fleashes%5F%5F%5Fid%5Ftags
Karen,
I would highly recommend a Gentle Leader. We've used them on both our
guys and they work really well. Our trainer uses these exclusively. I
tried a pinch collar on Tugboat once because of an issue we were
having with him fence fighting a couple of dogs on his walk, but I will
NEVER do
Hi,
It will be a heat between the collar and the skin. Wounds like chafes in
the armpits, close to the dogs chest.
Margareta
no pull
harnesses, head halters, nor the pinch collar, all of which are used extensively in my
area. If it did then it was not fitted properly. The same thing could happen w/ a
buckle collar left on a long time too tight. I have never seen anything like this
happen and I have used pinch collars
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I have had really good luck the past 3 years using an herbal flea / tick collar
on my group of three. I get them from Medipatch. Go to: www.medipatch.com for
more info. The only time I use Front Line is if we are going to the beach. I think
the collars would probably work
Just thought I'd let you all know, I just got my break away collars. They are very
well made and came really quickly. I've realized in the past couple of days just how
lucky we were with Sallie and Pecan's accident. It could very easily have gone the
other way and we would be mourning
Hi,
A friend used to breed field trial beagles and when these dogs are running
the bunny in trial they wear ID collars. These look like the old style ID
bracelets with an engraved plate and the flat link chain are fastened
tightly around the beagles neck to avoid getting tangled in the brush
In my region of the world, we are required to have lic tags on our dogs
whenever they are outside (including in our yards). The authorities can come
on to your property to check and the fine is something you would notice.
In our house, we do a lot of collar on and collar off maneauvers. The
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looking for one of my babies).
Jen
P.S. We have home collars, cottage collars and Collingwood collars -
each with a local address or similar identifying home locator, and local
phone #s. It wouldn't do me any good if someone found my dog (for example)
in Collingwood while we were
while messing
about.
Leather buckle collars are the way to go in my opinion, if you want to keep
a collar on always. I'd get rolled leather, not flat, since that won't break
the hair.
--
Eileen Morgan
March 30th Clinic Information: http://www.enter.net/~edlehman/USEAAR2.html
The Mare's Nest
http
were
available). Only through my own efforts at calling all vets, police
stations, kennels, humane societies several times a day, repeatedly were
these dogs recovered. I now keep tags on all the time.
Slip collars, whether chain or nylon braid, are not the safest to keep on all
the time
In a message dated 02/27/2003 11:24:36 AM Central Standard Time,
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I guess if these are not available for dogs,
The collars that are made with the plastic clip type fastener do function as
a break away collar. We had it happen with my Cavalier when his leash got
In a message dated 12/6/2002 5:18:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
? from New mommy?? My 41/2 month female is 35lbs What is the best way to
stop her from jumping on people.
I'm not touching this part, Eileen did too good a job. g
I have conflicting advice on
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