date:20060430

Iain Buchanan wrote:
 (snip)

 Thanks, that's pretty much what I had.  I'm interested in your
 framerates though.  With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the
 radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers...

 (snip)

are u sure of that 2500+ fps.. I think its 250+ fps.. If not i'm
ditching my nvidia card and buying ati.. :) But i'm sure when it comes
to performance nvidia is the leader..

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[gentoo-user] Missing mixer item Headphone: Regression in Linux from 2.6.14.7 to 2.6.15

2006-04-30 Thread Erik

In the upgrade from Linux 2.6.14.7 to Linux 2.6.15 the mixer item 
Headphone was lost. This is with the driver intel8x0. The biggest 
problem with this regression is that it makes it impossible to turn off 
the internal speakers of the Dell Inspiron 8600 and only have sound when 
something is connected to the headphone port.


Is there a fix or workaround for this problem? Did anyone else even notice?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing mixer item Headphone: Regression in Linux from 2.6.14.7 to 2.6.15

2006-04-30 Thread Mick


On 30/04/06, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the upgrade from Linux 2.6.14.7 to Linux 2.6.15 the mixer item
Headphone was lost. This is with the driver intel8x0. The biggest
problem with this regression is that it makes it impossible to turn off
the internal speakers of the Dell Inspiron 8600 and only have sound when
something is connected to the headphone port.

Is there a fix or workaround for this problem? Did anyone else even notice?


Are you sure this is not related to the last alsa related updates?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing mixer item Headphone: Regression in Linux from 2.6.14.7 to 2.6.15

2006-04-30 Thread Erik


Mick wrote:


On 30/04/06, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In the upgrade from Linux 2.6.14.7 to Linux 2.6.15 the mixer item
Headphone was lost. This is with the driver intel8x0. The biggest
problem with this regression is that it makes it impossible to turn off
the internal speakers of the Dell Inspiron 8600 and only have sound when
something is connected to the headphone port.

Is there a fix or workaround for this problem? Did anyone else even 
notice?



Are you sure this is not related to the last alsa related updates?


It is certainly related to ALSA somehow, but what updates are you 
thinking of? I doubt it is the last updates, since the change was 
between 2.6.14.7 and 2.6.15, which was a while ago. I have just looked 
at the diff between 2.6.14.7 and 2.6.15. I did not see anything obvious, 
but it is huge, so I may have missed something.


I have built a couple of kernels and see that it works fine when I boot 
with 2.6.14.7 or earlier and fails when I boot 2.6.15 or later.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's broken with portage now? [FIXED]

2006-04-30 Thread Mick


On 25/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 24 April 2006 05:01 am, Mick wrote:
 On 23/04/06, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Before you do that try emerge metadata or emerge sync

 Thanks guys.  Emerge metadata creates multiple errors (here's an extract):
 =
 Failed cache update: dev-libs/gmime-2.1.14-r1 Corruption detected
 when reading key 'gmime-2.1.14-r1': dictionary update sequence element
 #0 has length 1; 2 is required

 Failed cache update: dev-libs/gmime-2.1.9-r3 Corruption detected when
 reading key 'gmime-2.1.9-r3': dictionary update sequence element #0
 has length 1; 2 is required
 =

 What now?  Shall I delete /var/cache/edb/dep/usr/portage, or some
 other file/directory too?

Because I said I think it might (major emphasis on might) help is no reason to
start deleting things.  DO NOT delete anything without knowing what you're
doing.  I just said I thought it might force a rebuild-from-scratch of the
cache, however, I have really no idea.  If I built the software, that's
what'd happen, but I didn't so that's where it is.  I said it mainly in hopes
that it might help someone more knowledgeable come to a real solution.

If you still want to delete it, just let me ask you one thing: is this a toy,
or a critical machine?  Is this your linux box that works as a learning
environment, or is this thing really part of a system that needs to be on?
If it's just your playground, back everything important (of YOUR data, not OS
settings and crap like that) to another computer and delete to your hearts
content.  You will most likely learn something.  If you're like me, and
really depend on the system, don't try such a step.


I thought of writing this for posterity.  The corruption was probably
caused because of a couple of forced reboots, when I was trying to
send this laptop to sleep and could not bring the screen back to life
- what? no backups? tut, tut!

I downloaded a fresh portage snapshot and replaced my corrupted
portage directory.  Before I did that I first moved and then restored
my /usr/portage/distfiles to save bandwidth.

Everything now works as it should.  Thanks for all the replies.
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[gentoo-user] gthumb - can't save images


Hello!

For quite some time now (since at least January 2006; since
at least version 2.6.8), I cannot save JPEG images with
gthumb (running 2.6.9 from my own overlay, but also with
2.6.8-r2) anymore. When I try to save a JPEG image, a 0 byte
file gets created and in the terminal window I get the following
output:

(gthumb:18670): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Bad option name 'smooth' passed to JPEG
saver

(gthumb:18670): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_savev: assertion `error ==
NULL || *error != NULL' failed

** (gthumb:18670): CRITICAL **: _gtk_error_dialog_from_gerror_run: assertion
`*gerror != NULL' failed

As I'm running ~x86, I suppose that media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5
is too new for the stable gthumb branch?

Actually, I now installed gthumb 2.7.5.1, which is the unstable
release of gthumb. But I'd like to go back to the stable
branch.

Has anyone else noticed problems with gthumb 2.6.x?

I posted bugs reg. this. See:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130288
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340101

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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare on Gentoo?

2006-04-30 Thread Dave Jones

Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 04/30/06 06:51:
 I just got an evaluation copy of VMWare Workstation 5.5, and I'm
 momentarily glad I didn't pay for this thing.  It seems to expect 
 a RedHat style runlevel system.
 Has anybody successfully fooled with this thing to make it work on Gentoo?

 At the moment, its problems seem to be related to the daemon management
 features.  I could clone them, but it would be a lot of work.

The 5.5.1.19175-r3 ebuild runs perfectly here,  give it a go.

You *must* run vmware-config.pl as root after the install.

If vmware-config.pl complains about being unable to shutdown the vmware
services, rerun it using the -skipstopstart switch.

rc-update add vmware default  will fix your redhat runlevel problems.

Make sure that the userid you're going to run vmware under is a member
of the vmware group.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2006.0 DVD hangs !

2006-04-30 Thread Rohit Sharma

Rohit and Bhavana wrote:

Hi there,

I downloaded the ISO image and as I didn't have a blank CD handy, I
burned it onto a single layer DVD [after all it was an ISO image,
right?] and hoped for the best.

Totally my fault. Should have verified the md5sun before messing two
perfectly good media.

regards,
Rohit
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-30 Thread Jacques Montier

Martins Steinbergs a gentiment tapote:
 Hi,

 Well, It's me again,
 I was satisfied too quickly !
 After upgrading xorg to xorg-x11-7.0-r1 and getting dri successfully,
 gdm still crashes at reboot (kernel panic).
 I really don't know what to do now :-(
 Any idea ?

 Thanks a lot,

 --- Jacques --
 

 check xorg logs for drivers version mismatch, for example if u have following 
 mouse driver version 1.1.0 installed, downgrade to 1.0.4, same for keybord
 * x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  Available versions:
 1.0.4
 [M] 1.1.0

 too new xorg-server version and input drivers just doesnt work with 
 ati-drivers

 m
   
Are installed :
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.0.1.3
and
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4
So I don't have the latest version.


Thanks

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[gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Hi! Everybody!I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same 
situation.Do you think so? And how can you solve this problem?-- wcw

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Works fine on mine; what are your USE flags?On 30/04/06, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi! Everybody!I think most of us are
using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6
or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not
scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you think so?
And how can you solve this problem?-- wcw
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yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of
work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less
trouble.

[gentoo-user] Debugging an ebuild

2006-04-30 Thread David Corbin

I would like to debug an ebuild that is not working for me.  I've googled and 
not found anything terrible useful.  Can anyone point me at a HOWTO or some 
such?

When I tried to 'ebuild' a copy the ebuild outside of  the /usr/protage 
directory, it complains that it is not in a valid PORTDIR heirarchy.  Is 
there a way to run do this?

If I hack in some additional statements, ebuild fails with the 'digest 
verification'.  Again, any pointers around this type of problem would be 
helpful.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


wu chuanwen wrote:

Hi! Everybody!
I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?


Not really.

In 
my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck 
and even can not scroll up and down.


Works fine here.

Many peple have the same 
situation.


Haven't heard of.


Do you think so?


No, I don't.


And how can you solve this problem?


Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two things, AC97 sound and Gnome issues!

2006/4/27, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello all,if there is any one that can help me with the following two issue Iwould be greatful.1.I am have a error message when booting about snd_via82xx notfound.FATAL: Module snd_via82xx not found.is the exact message.
Are you sure your sound module is snd_via82xx?I have a AC97 sound card,and the modules is not this one.
I have the driver as part of the kernel, when I don't ALSA then givesa message like this:ALSA device list:Sound Card not foundI have emerged hal, dbus, alsa-utils and have added all of them torc-update level boot.I have run the alsaconf.
2.Now with gnome, when I type startx at the prompte I get the logo
and then it stops, I then have to move the mouse and click on the logoand it goes away and then its just a blank screen.I have to doctrl+alt+backspace to get out and get to a prompte again.
See the message after you do  ctrl+alt+bachspace! If you have any other questions that I have not answered here please
ask so this may get fixed.If any one knows how I could fix these issue I would be greatful andthankful to you.Sincerely,Christopher--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Works fine on mine; what are your USE flags?USE=gtk gnome gcj hal -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly pic.It's OK!Oh god! Just like now ,i just open two tab,it's so slow when i switch between the two tab.

On 30/04/06, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi! Everybody!I think most of us are
using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6
or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not
scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you think so?
And how can you solve this problem?-- wcw
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trouble.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Andrea Barisani

On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 02:59:06PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 wu chuanwen wrote:
 Hi! Everybody!
 I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?
 
 Not really.
 
 In 
 my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck 
 and even can not scroll up and down.
 
 Works fine here.
 
 Many peple have the same 
 situation.
 
 Haven't heard of.
 
 Do you think so?
 
 No, I don't.
 
 And how can you solve this problem?
 
 Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.
 
 Alexander Skwar
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Try using this:

$ MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?Not really. In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck
 and even can not scroll up and down.Works fine here. Many peple have the same situation.Haven't heard of.Really?Open this page ,you can see how many people complant firefox from april 15th!
 Do you think so?No, I don't. And how can you solve this problem?
Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.Can you tell me which version you are using ?
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[gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems

2006-04-30 Thread Dave Jones

I'm running a compiled from source Open Office 2.01-r1 and am having
problems getting OOo to accept input of accented, single and double
quote characters under KDE 3.4.3.

If I use IceWM, typing these characters works fine in OOo.

I have CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and
LINGUAS=en en_GB in my /etc/make.conf  Nothing startling there.

I'm running xorg-X11 version 6.8.2-r6, KDE version 3.4.3, Open Office
2.01-r1, all packages from the stable branch.

In my /etc/xorg.conf I have the following entries for my keyboard:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  AutoRepeat500 30
Option  XkbModel  logicdp
Option  XkbLayout us_intl
EndSection

Being an old-fashioned Brit I have set up OOo to default to British
English. However, as I live in Europe, I use a Logitech Cordless Desktop
Pro US International keyboard, set to US International under KDE 3.4.3.

I do not use UTF-8 for character encoding, but default to ISO-8859-15,
to allow me to use the 'special' accented characters and the Euro sign.

OOo does not recognise either single quote (') or double quote ()
unless I press the AltGr key (right Alt key). I cannot compose accented
characters such as áàéèíìóòöuúù.  The € sign works as expected with a
US-international keyboard, using AltGr 5.

I tried setting OOo to US English, but this did not resolve the problem.
OOo stubbornly ignores both single and double quotes unless the AltGr
key is pressed.

Normally in 'US International' mode, both single and double quotes are
produced using the quote key and a space.  Applications such as Mozilla
Thunderbird handle these quote characters correctly using the above
keyboard set up.  Only OOo ignores these keystrokes combinations.

To persuade OOo to enter single or double quotes I have to use the
Alt-Gr key and ' or .  Strange indeed, OOo is the only application
which behaves like this under KDE.

Setting the xorg.conf Option XkbVariant deadkeys  as suggested in
the OOo documentation does not change the quote keys behaviour in OOo.

I'm totally bewildered as to why OOo behaves so strangely under KDE,
while working perfectly under (for example) IceWM.

Has anyone else encountered this problem, or better still, have a work
round or solution for it?

Cheers, Dave.
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?Not really. In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck
 and even can not scroll up and down.Works fine here. Many peple have the same situation.Haven't heard of.Really?Open this page ,you can see how many people complant firefox from april 15th!
I am sorry,i forget the link:http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747
 Do you think so?
No, I don't. And how can you solve this problem?
Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.Can you tell me which version you are using ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, Andrea Barisani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 02:59:06PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow? Not really.
 In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down. Works fine here. Many peple have the same
 situation. Haven't heard of. Do you think so? No, I don't. And how can you solve this problem? Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.
 Alexander Skwar -- Would you people stop playing these stupid games?!?!? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Try using this:$ MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefoxIt seems better now, but i am not sure.I will be very appreciated if you can tell me what the command means!Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck

On Sunday, April 30 2006 22:52, wu chuanwen wrote:

 I am sorry,i forget the link:
 http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747

I don't think it'd be much help posting a Chinese forum thread in an English 
mailing list.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-30 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 13:21 +0530, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 Iain Buchanan wrote:
  (snip)
 
  Thanks, that's pretty much what I had.  I'm interested in your
  framerates though.  With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the
  radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers...
 
  (snip)
 
 are u sure of that 2500+ fps..

with glxgears, yes.

  I think its 250+ fps..

not for me :)

  If not i'm
 ditching my nvidia card and buying ati.. :)

don't...

  But i'm sure when it comes
 to performance nvidia is the leader..

$ glxgears
13307 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2661.400 FPS

That's with the ati-drivers, of course.

This laptop is a 3GHz P4 with Radeon 9600, about a year old.  A new
nvidia will give you better performance.

cya,
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sunday, April 30 2006 22:52, wu chuanwen wrote: I am sorry,i forget the link: http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747
I don't think it'd be much help posting a Chinese forum thread in an Englishmailing list.I just mean to show that many people don't think firefox is so good and i search some methods to solve the problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


wu chuanwen wrote:


Can  you  tell me  which  version  you  are  using ?


mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2

PS: Please only send HTML mails, if it is really necessary.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


wu chuanwen wrote:



2006/4/30, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Works fine on mine; what are your USE flags?

USE=gtk gnome gcj hal -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly pic.


Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when
you run

emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox

I get:

[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2-r1 [1.5.0.2] USE=-debug gnome 
-ipv6 java -mozdevelop -xinerama xprint 0 kB

Have you yet tried a blank profile?

Alexander Skwar

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[gentoo-user] Re: Debugging an ebuild

2006-04-30 Thread Francesco Talamona

On Sunday 30 April 2006 14:44, David Corbin wrote:
 I would like to debug an ebuild that is not working for me.  I've
 googled and not found anything terrible useful.  Can anyone point me
 at a HOWTO or some such?

 When I tried to 'ebuild' a copy the ebuild outside of  the
 /usr/protage directory, it complains that it is not in a valid
 PORTDIR heirarchy.  Is there a way to run do this?

 If I hack in some additional statements, ebuild fails with the
 'digest verification'.  Again, any pointers around this type of
 problem would be helpful.

You better create an overlay to portage, see for example:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds

See also ebuild man page:
man -a ebuild

ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

I know a lot of people don't recommend this, but I haven't had any trouble with CFLAGS=-O3, specifically in firefox 1.5.0.2On 30/04/06, 
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Works fine on mine; what are your USE flags? USE=gtk gnome gcj hal -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly pic.Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when
you runemerge -vpt mozilla-firefoxI get:[ebuild
U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2-r1 [1.5.0.2] USE=-debug gnome
-ipv6 java -mozdevelop -xinerama xprint 0 kBHave you yet tried a blank profile?Alexander SkwarPS: Please no HTML. Makes your posts harder to read.--Is it really you, Fuzz, or is it Memorex, or is it radiation sickness?
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo till I added USE=-DG_DISABLE_DEBUGOn 30/04/06, Jeff Rollin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I know a lot of people don't recommend this, but I haven't had any trouble with CFLAGS=-O3, specifically in firefox
1.5.0.2
On 30/04/06,
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Works fine on mine; what are your USE flags? USE=gtk gnome gcj hal -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly pic.Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when
you runemerge -vpt mozilla-firefoxI get:[ebuild
U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2-r1 [1.5.0.2] USE=-debug gnome
-ipv6 java -mozdevelop -xinerama xprint 0 kBHave you yet tried a blank profile?Alexander SkwarPS: Please no HTML. Makes your posts harder to read.--Is it really you, Fuzz, or is it Memorex, or is it radiation sickness?
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


Jeff Rollin wrote:

Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of 
Gentoo till I added USE=-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG


What's that supposed to do? It doesn't seem to be a valid USE flag.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


Jeff Rollin wrote:

I know a lot of people don't recommend this, but I haven't had any 
trouble with CFLAGS=-O3, specifically in firefox 1.5.0.2


If -O3 REALLY gives a speedup depends heavily on your CPU. You
might not get a speedup at all - and, more likely, you might
not get a *noticeable* speedup.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Works fine on mine; what are your USE flags? USE=gtk gnome gcj hal -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly pic.Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when
you runemerge -vpt mozilla-firefoxI get:[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2-r1 [1.5.0.2] USE=-debug gnome -ipv6 java -mozdevelop -xinerama xprint 0 kB
I get this:[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2 [1.5.0.1-r4] USE=gnome ipv6 -debug -java -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 37 kB
Have you yet tried a blank profile?What do you mean?How to do it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006/4/30, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I know a lot of people don't recommend this, but I haven't had any trouble with CFLAGS=-O3, specifically in firefox 
1.5.0.2I can't use O3 because i got many errors when complied my gentoo .I use O2,-- wcw

[gentoo-user] Init Scripts, net, and LinuxAnt DriverLoader

2006-04-30 Thread Leigh Stewart

Hi All,
I'm having a bit of trouble trying to get the Gentoo net init scripts
to play nice with the linuxant driverloader ndiswrapper. 

First, yes I have tried (read: struggled) with ndiswrapper a fair bit
with no luck...I can only get my card to connect to an unencrypted
channel with ndiswrapper, and am not able to set any parameters,
including the encryption key. driverloader works however, for the most part... 

So anyway here are some specs first:
card: Linksys WPC54G v4
driver: wlipnds
relevant lspci line: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division
of Cisco Systems [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev
01)
driverloader version: 2.33

now my problem is that when I try to start the interface created by the
installed driverloader module using /etc/init.d/eth1... , it fails
miserably. by fails miserably i mean it is unable to connect to
my

[gentoo-user] Re: Init Scripts, net, and LinuxAnt DriverLoader

2006-04-30 Thread Leigh Stewart

sorry, i accidentally sent that prematurely. 

as i was saying, the init scripts fail to set the encryption key and
connect to my network. using iwconfig otoh i am able to set the
essid, enc key and etc and connect to the AP of choice.

worse, after running the init script the card becomes completely
unable to connect--using iwconfig methods after using the init scripts
has no effect, and even unloading the module , reloading it, and
retsarting the driverloader init scripts does not remedy the situation.

my question is can anyone tell me what the init scripts are doing
in addition to what i would like them to do (execute the commands in
/etc/conf.d/wireless) that may be clobbering my driver/card? any idea
why the same commands work just fine usinmg iwconfig??

thanks in advance On 4/30/06, Leigh Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I'm having a bit of trouble trying to get the Gentoo net init scripts
to play nice with the linuxant driverloader ndiswrapper. 

First, yes I have tried (read: struggled) with ndiswrapper a fair bit
with no luck...I can only get my card to connect to an unencrypted
channel with ndiswrapper, and am not able to set any parameters,
including the encryption key. driverloader works however, for the most part... 

So anyway here are some specs first:
card: Linksys WPC54G v4
driver: wlipnds
relevant lspci line: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division
of Cisco Systems [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev
01)
driverloader version: 2.33

now my problem is that when I try to start the interface created by the
installed driverloader module using /etc/init.d/eth1... , it fails
miserably. by fails miserably i mean it is unable to connect to
my

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Alexander,

DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them smaller (and faster)

Jeff. On 30/04/06, Alexander Skwar 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff Rollin wrote: I know a lot of people don't recommend this, but I haven't had any trouble with CFLAGS=-O3, specifically in firefox 
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Philip Webb

060430 wu chuanwen wrote:
 I think most of us are using firefox now. Do you think it's too slow?
 if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,
 my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down.

I have this problem with Independent (newspaper), but not generally.
I suspect it's caused by heavy or badly-written Javascript.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


wu chuanwen wrote:
2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when
you run

emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox




I get this:
[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2 [1.5.0.1-r4] 
USE=gnome ipv6 -debug -java -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 37 kB


Do you really need ipv6? I doubt that this has anything to
do with the problem at hand, but if you don't need it, you
should remove it. If you don't know anything about ipv6,
it's very probable that you don't need it.

To the others: Is ipv6 still one of the default flags? Has
this bug still not been fixed?


Have you yet tried a blank profile?

What do you mean?


As I wrote:

Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.


PS: Please no HTML. Makes your posts harder to read.

Do you mean the link i  gave in the mail before?Or another thing?


I mean, that you compose your mails in gmail as HTML or
rich text. This makes them bigger without adding any
benefit to it - indeed, as you can see above, it makes
it even worse, as there are no proper   quote marks
before the quoted text.

Simply click on plain text.

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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-30 Thread Hani Duwaik

Not sure if you've come up with a solution yet, but if you have a floppy or usb drive, you could do an 'emerge -pv ipw2200' to find out what files it needs, grab them from another system and just place them in '/usr/portage/distfiles'.
This should let you install support for ipw2200.HTH,-Hani

Re: [gentoo-user] Is anyone using initramfs on Gentoo?

2006-04-30 Thread Norberto Bensa

Norberto Bensa wrote:
   Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0)

Bug in mkinitd. It uses -c (old ascii format) and kernel seems to expect newc 
(srv4) 
 
Everything is working now. 

Thanks everyone!

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

wu chuanwen wrote:
 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when
 you run

 emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox


 I get this:
 [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2 [1.5.0.1-r4]
 USE=gnome ipv6 -debug -java -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 37 kB

Do you really need ipv6? I doubt that this has anything to
do with the problem at hand, but if you don't need it, you
should remove it. If you don't know anything about ipv6,
it's very probable that you don't need it.


thinks for this advice.Maybe next time when i am free i will re
-emerge my firefox

To the others: Is ipv6 still one of the default flags? Has
this bug still not been fixed?

 Have you yet tried a blank profile?

 What do you mean?

As I wrote:

Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager.


I have tried,and i am not sure it fater now! Just some time to see it.

 PS: Please no HTML. Makes your posts harder to read.

 Do you mean the link i  gave in the mail before?Or another thing?

I mean, that you compose your mails in gmail as HTML or
rich text. This makes them bigger without adding any
benefit to it - indeed, as you can see above, it makes
it even worse, as there are no proper   quote marks
before the quoted text.

Simply click on plain text.


Oh! I know now.I use gmail(i think it is the best e-mail now which can
sort you e-mail by topic and looks very good!)and never see my mail
from the mail-list in other application.
Is this mail OK now ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


On 4/30/06, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alexander,

 DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them
smaller (and faster)


Maybe as a CFLAG, but not a USE flag.  And it will only affect
gnome/glib/gtk applications.

PS: As Alexander already said, please do not top post, and learn to
trim your replies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like


On 4/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Make sure your GNOME packages (esp. gnome-volume-manager and related)
are compiled with USE=hal, and make sure the hal and dbus services are
started.  With those in place, it should Just Work(tm).


And also make sure she is a member of the 'plugdev' group.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Heiko Wundram

Am Sonntag 30 April 2006 14:24 schrieb wu chuanwen:
 I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my
 machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and
 even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you
 think so? And how can you solve this problem?

Most certainly, this is a memory issue. For every tab you have open, Firefox 
keeps a 30-something pages history cache in memory, including pictures, for 
quicker back-browsing. If you are under tight memory (512MB, I'd say), you 
quickly notice that the memory requirements of Firefox make the computer 
start to swap, and that the system slows down considerably.

You can turn off this history-caching somewhere, someplace on about:config, 
but I wouldn't know where. Search the net. You're not the first one to 
complain about this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Broken install?


On 4/29/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

kernel /boot/kern[TAB] (grub auto-completes) root=/dev[TAB]
Error 11: Unrecongnized device string.


This is not a problem.  The kernel will use an internal mapping to
figure out what the device major and minor number is for /dev/sda1. 
It does not depend on anything being in /dev.


The actual /dev on the root filesystem only needs null and console.

Note that udev usually runs on a ramfs or tmpfs filesystem, so all of
the nodes that you see when the system is running exist only in
memory, not on any disk.

Just use root=/dev/sda1, and the system should boot fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Broken install? - Fixed


On 4/29/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

John Jolet wrote:
 that should not have been necessary.  my grey hairs are telling me you'll
 encounter other problems down the road is udev enabled in the kernel?

I thought udev was just userland?  What option would I need in the kernel?


There is no kernel option.  If it is installed, it will be used,
unless you specify something else for RC_DEVICES in /etc/conf.d/rc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


wu chuanwen wrote:


Oh! I know now.I use gmail(i think it is the best e-mail now which can
sort you e-mail by topic and looks very good!)and never see my mail
from the mail-list in other application.
Is this mail OK now ?


Yes, that's *VERY* *MUCH* better now. Thanks a lot!

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


2006/4/30, Heiko Wundram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Am Sonntag 30 April 2006 14:24 schrieb wu chuanwen:
 I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my
 machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and
 even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you
 think so? And how can you solve this problem?

Most certainly, this is a memory issue. For every tab you have open, Firefox
keeps a 30-something pages history cache in memory, including pictures, for
quicker back-browsing. If you are under tight memory (512MB, I'd say), you

My memory is 512mb,but still consider what you said is the point.

quickly notice that the memory requirements of Firefox make the computer
start to swap, and that the system slows down considerably.

You can turn off this history-caching somewhere, someplace on about:config,
but I wouldn't know where. Search the net. You're not the first one to
complain about this.

I have larger the cache to 80MB.
It's not enough now?


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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Kesara Rathnayake

On 4/30/06, Heiko Wundram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Sonntag 30 April 2006 14:24 schrieb wu chuanwen: I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and 
down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you think so? And how can you solve this problem?Most certainly, this is a memory issue. For every tab you have open, Firefoxkeeps a 30-something pages history cache in memory, including pictures, for
quicker back-browsing. If you are under tight memory (512MB, I'd say), youquickly notice that the memory requirements of Firefox make the computerstart to swap, and that the system slows down considerably.
You can turn off this history-caching somewhere, someplace on about:config,but I wouldn't know where. Search the net. You're not the first one tocomplain about this.I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we used today.
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2006/4/30, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 4/30/06, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexander,

  DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them
 smaller (and faster)

Maybe as a CFLAG, but not a USE flag.  And it will only affect
gnome/glib/gtk applications.

Are you sure it can work?Is there anybody else using it ?I have never
heard of such cflag or use flag


PS: As Alexander already said, please do not top post, and learn to
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


wu chuanwen wrote:

2006/4/30, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 4/30/06, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexander,

  DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them
 smaller (and faster)

Maybe as a CFLAG, but not a USE flag.  And it will only affect
gnome/glib/gtk applications.

Are you sure it can work?Is there anybody else using it ?I have never
heard of such cflag or use flag


Me neither. It seems that portage doesn't know about such a
USE flag (euse -i DG_DISABLE_DEBUG doesn't show anything)
and CFLAG - well, I don't know. It seems that also very few
people use it - google doesn't return much and in the Gentoo
forums, only one person called DizL sems to use ist.

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[gentoo-user] modprobe looks in wrong dir

2006-04-30 Thread maxim wexler

Hi group,

This should be an easy fix -- if you already know!

The reason many of my modules are not loading is
because modprobe is looking in /lib/modules/2.6.12-r6
and not /lib/modules/2.6.16-r3 which was filled when I
ran make modules_install.

The link to the newer kernel is OK. 

Yes, I ran modules-update.

Also, module loading and unloading options are set=y
in kernel. 

Not a clue as to why some modules load, sound, usb;
and some, firewire, ppp, forcedeth don't. 

dmesg is filled with lines like:

Unknown symbol  ...disagrees about version of
symbol  ...

At the end of the boot console it says:

/usr/sbin/pppd/: Couldn't stat /dev/ttyS0: Too many
levels of symbolic links. 

But according to emerge -pv udev I have the latest
ver. Which I set up according to the gentoo
udev-guide. 

Attempts to specify the proper dir to modprobe result
in no-such-file errors.

-mw

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Kesara Rathnayake wrote:

I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we 
used today.


To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume
a local problem at his side. OP should simply create a new profile
and report back.

Alexander Skwar

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[gentoo-user] Re: modprobe looks in wrong dir

2006-04-30 Thread Francesco Talamona

On Sunday 30 April 2006 20:18, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hi group,

 This should be an easy fix -- if you already know!

 The reason many of my modules are not loading is
 because modprobe is looking in /lib/modules/2.6.12-r6
 and not /lib/modules/2.6.16-r3 which was filled when I
 ran make modules_install.

 The link to the newer kernel is OK.

 Yes, I ran modules-update.
[...]

It seems like you compiled your kernel but forgot to execute
make modules_install step.

ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe looks in wrong dir

2006-04-30 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

Did you remake the modules when you installed the kernel?  Some such as 
nvidia, alsa require you rerun their installation process.

On Sunday April 30 2006 14:18, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hi group,

 This should be an easy fix -- if you already know!

 The reason many of my modules are not loading is
 because modprobe is looking in /lib/modules/2.6.12-r6
 and not /lib/modules/2.6.16-r3 which was filled when I
 ran make modules_install.

 The link to the newer kernel is OK.

 Yes, I ran modules-update.

 Also, module loading and unloading options are set=y
 in kernel.

 Not a clue as to why some modules load, sound, usb;
 and some, firewire, ppp, forcedeth don't.

 dmesg is filled with lines like:

 Unknown symbol  ...disagrees about version of
 symbol  ...

 At the end of the boot console it says:

 /usr/sbin/pppd/: Couldn't stat /dev/ttyS0: Too many
 levels of symbolic links.

 But according to emerge -pv udev I have the latest
 ver. Which I set up according to the gentoo
 udev-guide.

 Attempts to specify the proper dir to modprobe result
 in no-such-file errors.

 -mw

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Jeff Rollin wrote:
 
 DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them
 smaller (and faster)
 

I dont think there is any use flags like DG_DISABLE_DEBUG.. As for as
debugging symbols goes the use flag 'debug' control them i guess.. And
as far as i know on x86 arch it -debug, so by default it strips
debugging info from binaries..

Here's a snip from portage/profiles/use.desc:

debug - Tells configure and the makefiles to build for
debugging. Effects vary across packages, but generally
it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set
FEATURES=nostrip too

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Alexander Skwar wrote:
 (snip)_
 
 To the others: Is ipv6 still one of the default flags? Has
 this bug still not been fixed?

 (snip)

Well in default-linux/{alpha,amd64,arm,hppa,ia64,m68k,s390,sh,x86} 
profiles, its on by default.. I don know for sure that in hardened profile 
it's turned off..

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Alexander Skwar wrote:
 (snip)
 
 PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML
 even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time.
 Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this
 list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)?


Well I think imposing things is a bad way, I'm sure why we all hate M$
is because it imposes things on us and gives us no choice.. How bout
making the users know bout things and let them decide.. I think you just
converted one mailer from HTML to text.. I guess that's what required..
Proper guidance and knowledge not some rules which deny users the right
to post, just because they do not know whether their mail client is
sending mail in HTML format..

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too-- --Argument against Linux number 6,033:
...So
this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus
yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of
work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less
trouble.

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Benno Schulenberg

wu chuanwen wrote:
 2006/4/30, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sunday, April 30 2006 22:52, wu chuanwen wrote:
   http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747
 
  I don't think it'd be much help posting a Chinese forum thread
  in an English mailing list.

 I just mean to show that  many people don't think firefox is so
 good

But most of the people here can't read what's written there: for all 
we know they could be singing the praises of spaghetti.  :)

Maybe, though, your Firefox gets slow because of the Chinese (?) 
characters?  Have you tried visiting only English sites for a while?

And if it's caused by bad or heavy use of Javascript, also try 
avoiding the sites you usually visit, hop around on gentoo.org and 
similar sites, open lots of tabs and see what happens there.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread David Morgan

On 21:11 Sun 30 Apr , Jeff Rollin wrote:
 I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it
 improves the speed of KDE applications too

Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo
till I added USE=-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

whoops! my badOn 30/04/06, David Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 21:11 Sun 30 Apr , Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications tooOh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo
till I added USE=-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG--Join The no2id Coalition, http://www.no2id.net/djm--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus
yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of
work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less
trouble.

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Jeff Rollin wrote:
 I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it
 improves the speed of KDE applications too

Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable
results came up when i googled it..

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[gentoo-user] ssmtp.conf security concern

2006-04-30 Thread John J. Foster

Good afternoon,

I solved my problem of a few days ago by adding

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AuthPass=PASSWORD

to /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. This was related to my ISP now requiring SMTP
AUTH for mail. But I'm concerned about the security implications of
having this in a world-readable file. If this was only necessary to get
mutt mail off my system, I could just add

set sendmail=/usr/sbin/ssmtp -au [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ap PASSWORD

to my .muttrc file. But cron also need this in order to mail me results
of nightly jobs using mailx. I realize this is just a single user
system, but this solution just doesn't seem right. Are there config
options that can be placed in individual $HOME rc files, ie.
$HOME/.ssmtp.conf. I can't seem to track down much documentation on
ssmtp.conf. I don't really want to go with something fullblown like
sendmail.

Thanks,
festus

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread David Morgan

On 02:04 Mon 01 May , Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 Jeff Rollin wrote:
  I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it
  improves the speed of KDE applications too
 
 Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
 documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable
 results came up when i googled it..
 

$cat example.c
#include stdio.h

#ifdef FISH
#define A 1
#endif

int main()
{
if (A == 1)
printf(fish!\n);
}

$ gcc -DFISH example.c -o example
$ ./example
fish!

$ gcc example.c -o example
example.c: In function ‘main’:
example.c:9: error: ‘A’ undeclared (first use in this function)
example.c:9: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
example.c:9: error: for each function it appears in.)

(a fairly contrived example, I know)

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[gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht


Hi,
  I am attempting to move my /boot partition on a specific machine to
make way for a Windows XP dual boot. This machine is the only one with
a graphics adapter that meets the requirements of my son's new game.

  and right now the machine is no longer booting.. Bummer

  OK, so I used to have

/dev/sda1 /boot
/dev/sda2 swap
/dev/sda3 /

and then some higher partitions, and a bunch of unused disk space. To
get ready to add Windows I created two new partitions:

/dev/sda9 /boot
/dev/sda10 swap

First I added the new swap to fstab, rebooted and made sure it was
picked up correctly. I then copied everything in the old boot
/dev/sda1 to the new boot /dev/sda9 and modified the grub.conf file on
the new boot partition to ensure it was getting called with new names
for the boot options after I rebooted. I also attempted to change the
boot options themselves to point at the new boot partition. The old
grub.conf and new grub.conf file examples are shown:

OLD:
title  2.6.16-gentoo-r2
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda3

NEW:

title  New Layot 2.6.16-gentoo-r2
root (hd0,8)
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda3

When this was complete I ran grub using the commands

grub
root (hd0,8)
setup (hd0)
quit

My understand of the above is that the root (hd0,8) says place the
second part of grub on /dev/sda9 (drive 0, partition 8) while the
second says place the first part of grub in the MRB.

I then rebooted:

1) There is a long delay. I then get a message about the kernel file
not being found. Grub drops me into the grub choice screen which is
messed up text.

2) I do see the 'New Layout' names so it does seem to be finding
/dev/sda9 with the new text

3) None of the options work.

  I've now rebooted using the Gentoo 2006.0 install CD. The kernels
are on /dev/sda9 so it seems grub should be able to find them but it
isn't.

  Can anyone suggest what I'm missing here?

thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp.conf security concern

John J. Foster wrote:
 Good afternoon,
 
 I solved my problem of a few days ago by adding
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AuthPass=PASSWORD
 
 to /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. This was related to my ISP now requiring SMTP
 AUTH for mail. But I'm concerned about the security implications of
 having this in a world-readable file. If this was only necessary to get
 mutt mail off my system, I could just add
 
 set sendmail=/usr/sbin/ssmtp -au [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ap PASSWORD
 
 to my .muttrc file. But cron also need this in order to mail me results
 of nightly jobs using mailx. I realize this is just a single user
 system, but this solution just doesn't seem right. Are there config
 options that can be placed in individual $HOME rc files, ie.
 $HOME/.ssmtp.conf. I can't seem to track down much documentation on
 ssmtp.conf. I don't really want to go with something fullblown like
 sendmail.
 

How bout using msmtp? It's lightweight and is well documented (?).. To
use it change the value of sendmail in your .muttrc to this:

set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp

Also fill in your account details in ~/.msmtprc:

account default
host smtp.your_provider.net
from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#see man page for more auth options
auth login
user your_username
password your_password
#If your SMTP Server supports TLS encryption, uncomment the next line
#tls

Be sure to execute chmod 0600 ~/.msmtprc

I copied these info from Gentoo Documentation.. Hope this helps..
Personally i use postfix with my gmail account..

Farhan Ahmed

P.S: Give muttng a try.. It has lots of features like nntp, smtp,
sidebar support and plenty..
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

Try executing this command from the grub command line:

find /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

It'll return the partition where it finds the file.. It should be
something like (ab0,x).. Then as usual enter the grub commands..

root (ab0,x)
setup (ab0)
quit

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

2006-04-30 Thread John Jolet


On Sunday 30 April 2006 16:01, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
I am attempting to move my /boot partition on a specific machine to
 make way for a Windows XP dual boot. This machine is the only one with
 a graphics adapter that meets the requirements of my son's new game.

and right now the machine is no longer booting.. Bummer

OK, so I used to have

 /dev/sda1 /boot
 /dev/sda2 swap
 /dev/sda3 /

 and then some higher partitions, and a bunch of unused disk space. To
 get ready to add Windows I created two new partitions:

 /dev/sda9 /boot
 /dev/sda10 swap

 First I added the new swap to fstab, rebooted and made sure it was
 picked up correctly. I then copied everything in the old boot
 /dev/sda1 to the new boot /dev/sda9 and modified the grub.conf file on
 the new boot partition to ensure it was getting called with new names
 for the boot options after I rebooted. I also attempted to change the
 boot options themselves to point at the new boot partition. The old
 grub.conf and new grub.conf file examples are shown:

 OLD:
 title  2.6.16-gentoo-r2
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda3

 NEW:

 title  New Layot 2.6.16-gentoo-r2
 root (hd0,8)
 kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda3

 When this was complete I ran grub using the commands

 grub
 root (hd0,8)
 setup (hd0)
 quit

 My understand of the above is that the root (hd0,8) says place the
 second part of grub on /dev/sda9 (drive 0, partition 8) while the
 second says place the first part of grub in the MRB.

 I then rebooted:

 1) There is a long delay. I then get a message about the kernel file
 not being found. Grub drops me into the grub choice screen which is
 messed up text.

 2) I do see the 'New Layout' names so it does seem to be finding
 /dev/sda9 with the new text

 3) None of the options work.

I've now rebooted using the Gentoo 2006.0 install CD. The kernels
 are on /dev/sda9 so it seems grub should be able to find them but it
 isn't.

Can anyone suggest what I'm missing here?

 thanks,
 Mark
at the grub menu, can you get to the grub command line and do 
find /boot/grub/grub.conf?  what drives/partitions does it show that being 
on?

if you set this up right, it should find it on both.  also, remember in fdisk 
to set the /dev/sda9 partion's boot flag.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is anyone using initramfs on Gentoo?

2006-04-30 Thread Maurice E Johnson





I do hope you have read the appropriate documentation.
In the Gentoo world, we have a thing called genkernel. Genkernel 
receives a lot of bad publicity sometimes but it realy is a nice tool 
if you graduate from the simple command line.

Under genkernel you have several options for building either
kernel
modules
initramfs
 
In fact, the default under 2.6.x kernels is to build an initramfs for you.
it will also install the entire mess for you.

And make the Correct entry in your grub.conf

Here's the magic. if you go in and take a look at the scripts that make up genkernel,
you will start to see that you can create any type of initramfs you like.

For further information,

RTFM

On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 02:24 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote:


Hello list,

I've tried to move my built-in ide (via) and rootfs (reiser) modules outside 
of the kernel, but when I try to boot the new kernel and its corresponding 
initramfs, it fails miserably with one of the following messages.

If I use root=/dev/hda7 (my root):

  Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (3,7)

If I use root=/dev/ram (that's the device in the initramfs made with 
mkinitrd):

  Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0)


I do this every day using Debian boxes, so why it is so hard on Gentoo? What's 
the correct way to make _and_ use an initramfs on Gentoo? 


Many thanks in advance,
Norberto

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: modprobe looks in wrong dir

2006-04-30 Thread Maurice E Johnson





modules-update only updates for the running version. In order to update the new version, you could simply reboot to the new version.

On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 20:32 +0200, Francesco Talamona wrote:


On Sunday 30 April 2006 20:18, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hi group,

 This should be an easy fix -- if you already know!

 The reason many of my modules are not loading is
 because modprobe is looking in /lib/modules/2.6.12-r6
 and not /lib/modules/2.6.16-r3 which was filled when I
 ran make modules_install.

 The link to the newer kernel is OK.

 Yes, I ran modules-update.
[...]

It seems like you compiled your kernel but forgot to execute
make modules_install step.

ciao
	Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is anyone using initramfs on Gentoo?

2006-04-30 Thread John Jolet

On Sunday 30 April 2006 16:30, Maurice E Johnson wrote:
 I do hope you have read the appropriate documentation.
 In the Gentoo world, we have a thing called genkernel. Genkernel
 receives a lot of bad publicity sometimes but it realy is a nice tool
 if you graduate from the simple command line.

 Under genkernel you have several options for building either
 kernel
 modules
 initramfs

 In fact, the default under 2.6.x kernels is to build an initramfs for
 you.
 it will also install the entire mess for you.

which is how i'm booting off a raid 1 /boot partition, which everything else 
(including / and swap) on an lvm on a raid5.  genkernel will allow you to 
also issue --menuconfig which will allow you into the kernel configuration 
process.
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp.conf security concern

2006-04-30 Thread John J. Foster

On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:37:20AM +0530, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 
 How bout using msmtp? It's lightweight and is well documented (?).. To
 use it change the value of sendmail in your .muttrc to this:
 
I'm reading the manual right now, and will probably try it tonight.

 Farhan Ahmed
 
 P.S: Give muttng a try.. It has lots of features like nntp, smtp,
 sidebar support and plenty..

I tried using muttng on and off since it came out. Had some nice
features that aren't in mainline, but too unstable for me, and just
about totally unsupported right now.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht


On 4/30/06, Farhan Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Try executing this command from the grub command line:

find /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

It'll return the partition where it finds the file.. It should be
something like (ab0,x).. Then as usual enter the grub commands..

root (ab0,x)
setup (ab0)
quit

Hope this helps,
Farhan Ahmed


Hi Farhan and John,
  First, thanks for the quick responses.

1) I've booted again from the unversal Install CD. I have two consoles
open - one is in the install environment and the second is in the
chroot'ed environment.

2) In the install environment it tells me that I have /dev/sda3
mounted at /mnt/gentoo and /dev/sda9 mounted at /mnt/gentoo/boot

3) In the chroot'ed environment I run grub and then your find command. It says

Error 15: File not found
grub

4) In the install environment I can see the kernel file at
/mnt/gentoo/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

5) In the chroot'ed environment I can see the kernel file at
/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

6) I thoought grub supported tab completion but maybe that's only at
boot time. While running grub in a console in the chroot'ed
environment tabs are just moving the cursor to the right.

  Let me know what other info you might need to make another guess.

  Thanks again for your help!

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

2006-04-30 Thread Benno Schulenberg

Mark Knecht wrote:
 5) In the chroot'ed environment I can see the kernel file at
 /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

How did you copy sda1 to sda9?  Probably on sda1 there was a 
symlink: boot - /, which you didn't preserve during copying.
Either create this symlink, or remove /boot from
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

2006-04-30 Thread John Jolet

On Sunday 30 April 2006 16:57, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 4/30/06, Farhan Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try executing this command from the grub command line:
 
  find /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2
 
  It'll return the partition where it finds the file.. It should be
  something like (ab0,x).. Then as usual enter the grub commands..
 
  root (ab0,x)
  setup (ab0)
  quit
 
  Hope this helps,
  Farhan Ahmed

 Hi Farhan and John,
First, thanks for the quick responses.

 1) I've booted again from the unversal Install CD. I have two consoles
 open - one is in the install environment and the second is in the
 chroot'ed environment.

 2) In the install environment it tells me that I have /dev/sda3
 mounted at /mnt/gentoo and /dev/sda9 mounted at /mnt/gentoo/boot

 3) In the chroot'ed environment I run grub and then your find command. It
 says

 Error 15: File not found
 grub

 4) In the install environment I can see the kernel file at
 /mnt/gentoo/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

 5) In the chroot'ed environment I can see the kernel file at
 /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

 6) I thoought grub supported tab completion but maybe that's only at
 boot time. While running grub in a console in the chroot'ed
 environment tabs are just moving the cursor to the right.

Let me know what other info you might need to make another guess.

Thanks again for your help!

 Cheers,
 Mark
the find command i meant for you to run was at boot time..hit e when the 
grub menu comes up, then c for command-line

Now, did you get into fdisk and make sure your hda9 had a * in the boot 
column?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht


On 4/30/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark Knecht wrote:
 5) In the chroot'ed environment I can see the kernel file at
 /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2

How did you copy sda1 to sda9?  Probably on sda1 there was a
symlink: boot - /, which you didn't preserve during copying.
Either create this symlink, or remove /boot from
kernel (hd0,8)/boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2.

Benno



Benno,
  Thanks. That seems to have been the problem. I added the symlink in
and the machine booted fine:

lightning ~ # mount /boot/
lightning ~ # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3  9614148   7521752   1604020  83% /
udev513756   304513452   1% /dev
/dev/sda6  3850292   2501984   1152720  69% /usr/src
/dev/sda7 11543016   3460680   7495968  32% /mnt/gentoo32
/dev/sda8 14428928  11624384   2071580  85% /home
shm 513756 0513756   0% /dev/shm
none513756 0513756   0% /tmp/jack
/dev/sda9   101086  8202 87665   9% /boot
lightning ~ #

  Thanks to everyone for all the help.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Ryan Tandy


Alexander Skwar wrote:

Jeff Rollin wrote:

Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of 
Gentoo till I added USE=-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG


What's that supposed to do? It doesn't seem to be a valid USE flag.
I think he meant as CFLAGS, not as USE.  In any case, it would only have 
an effect in code that supports the G_DISABLE_DEBUG macro...

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like

2006-04-30 Thread Ryan Tandy


Richard Fish wrote:

On 4/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Make sure your GNOME packages (esp. gnome-volume-manager and related)
are compiled with USE=hal, and make sure the hal and dbus services are
started.  With those in place, it should Just Work(tm).


And also make sure she is a member of the 'plugdev' group.

-Richard


Yes, right.  I always forget that one.  Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Ryan Tandy


Farhan Ahmed wrote:

Jeff Rollin wrote:
  

I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it
improves the speed of KDE applications too



Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable
results came up when i googled it..

Farhan Ahmed
  
It's not a CFLAG, at least not a compiler flag as you would be familiar 
with them.  It's -DG_DISABLE_DEBUG, with the hyphen at the beginning, 
and all it does is tell the compiler to activate a setting called 
G_DISABLE_DEBUG in code that uses it.  From my own Googling, it looks 
like it's meant to be used by applications linking against Glib in their 
build scripts, not by end users.


In any case, if you're going to use -DG_DISABLE_DEBUG, you should also 
add its converse, -UG_ENABLE_DEBUG, since that seems to be the 'proper' 
way to do it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like

2006-04-30 Thread Nick Rout


On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:46:15 +0100
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:

 Hi Jim, 
 
 I won't bother echoing everyone elses response as to how.. however, out
 of curiousity I was wondering what your wife's reasoning for wanting
 Gentoo on her computer is when she does not want to learn how stuff
 works? :)
 
 Christel

i get the impression its not jim's wife who wanted gentoo on the laptop
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like

2006-04-30 Thread michael


On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Ryan Tandy wrote:


Richard Fish wrote:

 On 4/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Make sure your GNOME packages (esp. gnome-volume-manager and related)
  are compiled with USE=hal, and make sure the hal and dbus services are
  started.  With those in place, it should Just Work(tm).

 And also make sure she is a member of the 'plugdev' group.

 -Richard


Yes, right.  I always forget that one.  Thanks.



It occurs to me that this would make a very nice little howto. Perhaps
the best one to write it would be the original asker (Ryan?) since he'll
have the feedback from his wife, but if no one else wants to do it I'll
do it.

Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

Hmm,Unfortunately it's so long ago that I don't remember where I saw it. Anyway, works for me.Jeff.On 01/05/06, Ryan Tandy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Farhan Ahmed wrote: Jeff Rollin wrote:
 I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
 documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable results came up when i googled it.. Farhan AhmedIt's not a CFLAG, at least not a compiler flag as you would be familiar
with them.It's -DG_DISABLE_DEBUG, with the hyphen at the beginning,and all it does is tell the compiler to activate a setting calledG_DISABLE_DEBUG in code that uses it.From my own Googling, it lookslike it's meant to be used by applications linking against Glib in their
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like

2006-04-30 Thread Nick Rout

The wiki is the place for it I believe. There is already a kde howto:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS%2C_HAL%2C_KDE_media:/


On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:47:26 -0400
JimD wrote:

 Does anyone have any good link on making Gentoo a little more
 user-friendly like Ubunut?  I am looking for basic home user stuff for
 my wife such as:
 
 Automount/play a music CD, DVD
 Automout a USB camera
 
 Little basic things like that.  I personally just mount /mnt/cdrom, but
 trying to get my wife to do that or anything manual gets me in trouble
 
 : )
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-04-30 Thread Andrea Barisani

On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +, wu chuanwen wrote:
 
 Try using this:
 
 $ MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox
 
 
 It seems better now, but i am not sure.
 I will be very appreciated if you can tell me what the command means!
 Thanks!


It disables pango library usage, there's a known bug about it that makes
firefox scrolling and stuff very slow. Google for it and you'll find lots of
reports about it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is anyone using initramfs on Gentoo?

2006-04-30 Thread Norberto Bensa

John Jolet wrote:
 genkernel will allow you
 to also issue --menuconfig which will allow you into the kernel
 configuration process.

I really didn't know that! I thought genkernel just compiled everything!

Anyway, I fixed the problem with my initramfs. It was a bug in mkinitrd. I 
still need to open a bug about this issue.

Many thanks to everyone (forums and gentoo-user)!

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


2006/5/1, Andrea Barisani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 01:35:18PM +, wu chuanwen wrote:
 
 Try using this:
 
 $ MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox


 It seems better now, but i am not sure.
 I will be very appreciated if you can tell me what the command means!
 Thanks!


It disables pango library usage, there's a known bug about it that makes
firefox scrolling and stuff very slow. Google for it and you'll find lots of
reports about it.

Is there any way to fix it? I just don' t start firefox everytime like that.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


On 4/30/06, Farhan Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jeff Rollin wrote:
 I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it
 improves the speed of KDE applications too

Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable
results came up when i googled it..


I did some more digging on this.  Actually it looks like
-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG won't have any effect on glib/gtk/gnome
applications.  There is no such thing in /usr/include, or in the
current sources for glib or gtk.

There *is* G_ENABLE_DEBUG, which is only turned on if you merge glib
or gtk with USE=debug, which configures glib/gtk with ./configure ...
--enable-debug=yes   The default glib/gtk debug configuration is
minimum.

Glibc and gtk also support configuring with --enable-debug=no, which
adds -DG_DISABLE_ASSERT, -DG_DISABLE_CHECKS, and/or
-DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS to CFLAGS when they are built.  However, there
is no USE flag currently available to set --enable-debug=no.  (If you
desire this, file a bug report on bugzilla for the feature
enhancement).

It is possible you could get the effect of --enable-debug=no by adding
-UG_DISABLE_ASSERT, -UG_DISABLE_CHECKS, and -UG_DISABLE_CAST to
CFLAGS, but it depends upon whether the package build takes
user-defined CFLAGS into account before or after ./configure defined
flags.  If ./configure is added after the user flags, they will have
no effect.  I have not investigated this at all...

Jeff, whoever told you that -DG_DISABLE_DEBUG did something was lying.
Current gtk and glibc sources know nothing about this flag.

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[gentoo-user] KDE crashing on startup

2006-04-30 Thread Ian Kabeary

Hi there, Im using a PPC arch., and noticed that upon selecting kde-3.5 from my freshly emerged kdm

that after a minute or so X will restart, bringing me right back to kdm. This does not happen if I choose to use Fluxbox.

I like Fluxbox, but very much prefer KDE. Any ideas?

Im thinking that KDE is crashing.. Is there a log for KDE somewhere?



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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?


2006/4/30, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

wu chuanwen wrote:
 2006/4/30, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sunday, April 30 2006 22:52, wu chuanwen wrote:
   http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=252747
 
  I don't think it'd be much help posting a Chinese forum thread
  in an English mailing list.

 I just mean to show that  many people don't think firefox is so
 good

But most of the people here can't read what's written there: for all
we know they could be singing the praises of spaghetti.  :)

It's my fault.I didn't consider it much.


Maybe, though, your Firefox gets slow because of the Chinese (?)
characters?  Have you tried visiting only English sites for a while?

I don't think that is becaust my Chinese characters.It seems better
now for the advices from
Alexander Skwar and Andrea Barisani(nice man).
In fact,i usually visit the English sites(you know,in China,linux is
not so flourish yet although more and more people join this group.


And if it's caused by bad or heavy use of Javascript, also try
avoiding the sites you usually visit, hop around on gentoo.org and
similar sites, open lots of tabs and see what happens there.

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