Jon Tan wrote:
Searching for products, property and jobs could be revolutionised
by MFs and immensely valuable for all users, whether they know what
the blogosphere is or not. If it was ever seriously suggested that
until current ones are in widespread use others should be on hold
or not
Brian Suda wrote:
the advantage of saying what you have available will minumized the
crawl space. I can get one file that tells me everything, or crawl the
entire 40,000 Avon hCard pages to try to get the same thing.
This seems counter to the DRY and/or users-first mantra of
microformats.
Just a typo:
It get used
should be It gets used in 4th from last paragraph. Other than
that, my only comment is on the end:
Remember, it is only the relationship between the documents, not
the documents themselves which are described.
I suspect many people reading that will wonder:
Andreas Haugstrup wrote:
Some parsers will still treat that as a single tag, but others
will treat it as a hierarchy, and even in those systems treating
it as a single tag, I think software.httpsubscription suggests a
hierarchy to many humans.
It won't be cool for those people who use
I looked around on the wiki, and read Tantek's original explanation
of using title in abbr tags [1], but I didn't find a clear answer to
this. Should title attribute values be preferred to internal text
values in non-abbr tags when parsing microformats? E.g. if a parser
comes across
. Anything not connected to
microformats.org via pages containing microformats can still be added
manually, and I made a simple submission form for that [1].
Craig Ogg wrote:
On 12/1/05, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I'd go ahead and play around with a microformat-based
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 12/5/05, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/4/05, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I suspect there's just not enough microformatted
content out there yet to make it worth Google's cycles parsing
it. [2]. But I thought it better
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote:
Was anyone holding up the uF flag for hCalendar at When 2.0 [1]?
http://tantek.com/log/2005/12.html#d06t1551
Peace,
Scott
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Tantek Çelik wrote:
Copying it though violates the DRY principle and unnecessarily
introduces a
risk of introducing errors/changes from the spec.
Are we really applying the DRY principle to documentation? Nobody
uses rel-bookmark because nobody knows about it because nobody reads
W3C
Kevin Marks wrote:
(also, as http://www.microformats.org/wiki/rel-bookmark is #3 on
Google for a search for 'rel bookmark', putting something there is
better than nothing).
This is the third reason for me thinking it might be best to not link
to wiki pages that don't yet exist. The
Mark Nottingham wrote:
For example, a review's author might be inferred from the Web site
it's hosted on.
What about doing something similar to hAtom:
'if an Entry has 0 Entry Author elements, the logical Entry Author
is assumed to be the author of the XHTML page' [1]
[1]
Benjamin Carlyle wrote:
Reviews are often carried out in blog entries, so if hAtom sees
widespread adoption it may also be useful to say is assumed to be the
author of the containing hAtom entry. You could try and generalise by
saying the containing microformat, but that is probably going too
John Panzer wrote:
That is, if my review the content of a blog entry, and my entry's
title
is my blog entry's title, do I need to repeat it? Or can readers use
headline for whatever they'd normally use summary for?
Since summary is optional, this isn't as critical as author,
but it
would
admin Yellowikis wrote:
Would hAtom allow an embargo on a press release?
Do you have an example of anyone publishing an embargoed press
release on the web?
Peace,
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Phillip Pearson wrote:
The plan is to move the XML off to a separate URL and link to it
from the post.
Anyone know of any prior art?
http://weblog.burningbird.net/2005/12/19/aint-no-cobwebs-here/
I could also use the embedded metadata approach behind SB. However,
my preferred approach
Craig Ogg wrote:
Why do
people disagree on what the lower bound of a rating system is? I
think Ryan says Amazon's lower bound is 1 because you can't enter a
lower rating (you have to click on a star to set the rating). I also
believes that this is why he made it the default. I think others
Ross Singer wrote:
In regards to your local (public) library not running one of these
link resolver thingamabobs, that's hardly an excuse not find
value in the technology. It's only a matter of time before all
libraries have a link resolver of some sort. The rise of
electronic
Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:
Hmm. I'm not sure if I understand your solution. To avoid
corruption, I'm pretty sure AddressBook doesn't want people writing
directly to its private data store (regardless of format), so there
needs to be some API.
There already is:
On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
Are there examples in
the wild of RSS/Atom conversions into hAtom?
Luke Arno is working on it in XSLT, having already gone the other way:
http://lukearno.com/projects/hAtom/
Peace,
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Joshua Kinberg wrote:
Could be a fringe sort of case as I'd guess more chat logs are output
in plain text. But I do believe that Apple outputs chat logs this way
from iChat. Can anyone confirm?
No need to speculate. There is an iChat example already on the chat-
examples page:
On Feb 1, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
Maybe this is a dumb question because I'm working on a PC right now...
How does one export the visual transcript from Apple iChat like the
example I sent. That's not a simple screen grab as it includes a
lengthy chat session. Does iChat include
On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Chris Casciano wrote:
h3a href=http://127.0.0.1/index.php?id=7; rel=bookmark
class=headlineTest Post/a #183; abbr class=published
title=2006-02-05T17:03:32-0800a few seconds ago/abbr by span
class=authorChris/span/h3
When i run that though the the Almost
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Ryan King wrote:
On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Mike Siekkinen wrote:
Hey All,
Welcome Mike!
I wanted to start work on a micro format for job postings.
Following the wiki advice on how to get started I have plenty of
real world examples to illustrate a need. I’m
On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:24 AM, David Osolkowski wrote:
Didn't someone already write a microformat spider/robot/crawler?
http://randomchaos.com/microformats/base/
But that's not looking for profiles at all, just class names.
Peace,
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On Feb 19, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Alf Eaton wrote:
On 19 Feb 2006, at 15:54, Ryan Cannon wrote:
I like your use of space-separated class names (e.g. citation
reference book), but you do have a little bit of redundancy:
- abbr implies an abbreviation, so class=journal-title-abbr
could just
On Feb 19, 2006, at 7:01 PM, Alf Eaton wrote:
Great! I hadn't realised it worked that way, so you can just use
#ref1 to link to the li id=ref1. Do all browsers handle that
properly?
Not all, but enough that there's little reason not to follow the spec:
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Luke Arno wrote:
I just wanted to point out the proxy:
http://lukearno.com/projects/hatom2atom
Now that I know where to test it, I thought it might be worth
metioning that my crawler is now returning hAtom-formatted search
results:
On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Also, I think some folks have at least discussed an FAQ
microformat, you
may want to look for that as well.
I don't see this in the wiki nor the email archives. But apparently
multiple people remember it, so perhaps someone could fill in
On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:20 AM, mark gibbons wrote:
Hi,
I am developing a microformat proposal for plants. Please take a look
and join in if you wish.
http://microformats.org/wiki/plant-examples
I don't understand what problem this microformat would solve. The
stated problem seems to be
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:12 AM, mark gibbons wrote:
I would be the first to admit it is a niche, but here would be a few
scenarios where I can see this as useful.
- Collection of distributed plant information from the web into larger
plant databases.
- Plant catalogs can be published by retailers
On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Paul Bryson wrote:
but it doesn't have the major problem of identification with the
latin
terms acting as unique IDs.
Is there any page that discusses the potential issues of using IDs in
microformats?
Oh, I didn't mean ID attributes - just something to
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Breton Blake Slivka wrote:
Brian, if you look at the wiki, it would seem that he already has
done much of what you list.
I'm with you so far as defining the simpler microformat first for
the Latin classification system.
My thought is that it's a very specific
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by
botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber?
Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are the same
thing, no? Does a plant become something
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Phil Haack wrote:
I can envision something similar with Microformats. Suppose I
point my
brand spanking new Microformats enabled RSS Bandit towards
http://glazkov.com/ and it pops up a list of various Microformats
on that
page. Wonderful!
The bummer is that
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Ryan King wrote:
Hmm, this sounds to me like a theoretical argument. I'd like to
hear what experience people have had here. Has anyone here worked
on crawling to index microformats? If so, what challenges did you
face?
Yes. The two I know of are reevoo,
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Ryan King wrote:
I've so far stayed out of the discussion about a plant microformat,
mostly because I don't really care about talking about plants on
the Web.
Let's take a step back and think about whether a microformat for
plants is worthwhile–
We should
On Mar 26, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Antonio Touriño wrote:
I'd want to take advantage of it to decide where to start, but not
where to end. A search engine should seek to maximize the search
area to improve results. I want to look at everything on your site,
unless instructed otherwise.
If there
On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Alf Eaton wrote:
span class=editors
span class=editorJohn Green/span and
span class=editorSimon Brown/span (Eds);
/span
I guess there are some things in
After reading the recent discussion of a meta-microformat, I
decided to play around with the idea. I've probably gone through
9000 revisions, but I think I have a usable tool now, which I'm
calling HTML Analytical Lexicon. What it does is parse natural
language queries and derive a
On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Sam Roberts wrote:
Hi, I'm the author of Vpim (http://vpim.rubyforge.org), an
implementation (in progress) of vCard and iCalendar encoding/decoding
for ruby.
Neat.
but you can't go the other
way, there is no way for the receiver to know the cultural conventions
On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Ryan King wrote:
There's no example for this on the wiki,
Actually, there is: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples
I still don't see anything in the wiki where FN and N exist as non-
overlapping siblings in the hierarchy. Everything I see has either N
On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Ryan King wrote:
I wouldn't even now how to begin encoding a vCard as an hCard, and it
doesn't sound like there is any reason to. Would an hcard even exist,
standalone?
Huh? Would it exist on its own? There are plenty of hCards that
exist on their own,
On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Danny Ayers wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why Matt suggests XML data might have to be
delivered as both XML and escaped as well, but he gets into
browser/DOM territory, a place presumably well-known around this list
- thoughts appreciated.
I don't understand
On Apr 6, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Ryan Cannon wrote:
Treating XHTML as HTML is losing all of the benefits of using
XHTML, and
theoretically opens you up to parsing errors. If you're going to
use the HTML
DOM, why not use HTML, instead of causing potential breakage and
confusion
in the future
On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Alf, it is premature to be making recommendations when the
necessary steps
in the process have not yet been completed. More on the wiki page
itself.
I read the wiki page itself, and I don't see anything more
descriptive than process not
On Apr 10, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
One poor job does not deserve another - this line of argument NEVER
justifies poor behavior.
I intentionally avoided making any line of argument, as I thought
simply asking for clarification would be more productive. Apparently
I was
On Apr 12, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Jude Robinson wrote:
I agree entirely. Think it very odd and reckon cite and q/
blockquote more appropriate. Don't understand the dl suggestion
at all.
This is what I'm doing in an AJAX chat system I've been working on.
But looking at the examples [1], there
On Apr 13, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Mark Pilgrim wrote:
Anyway,
I'd bet microformats were not a top priority for their initial release
of Gcal, but that doesn't mean they can't add it later.
Can't we add it ourselves? I'm assuming the events are being
submitted via an AJAX call and authenticated
On Apr 13, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Mark Pilgrim wrote:
I will donate a free copy of Greasemonkey Hacks to the first person
to write a Greasemonkey script that
* adds a remind me with Google Calendar button (
http://www.google.com/googlecalendar/event_publisher_guide.html ) next
to any event
On Apr 15, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Alf Eaton wrote:
Upcoming is wrong - timezones have been on their to-do list for ages.
Looks like they've got things working now anyway...
http://upcoming.org/news/archives/2006/04/14/fun_with/
I wouldn't call it working. They've made their own export to
On Apr 18, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Mark Wallace wrote:
I'm sorry for asking a really silly question, but doesn't it make
sense that any class should have a a space as either a dash or
underscore?
If memory serves, the url fn would break the standard css
formating...
Though most authors only
On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:49 AM, Rebecca Cox wrote:
If a number of sub-properties are specified within n, do these all
have to be included in fn?
For example, if I had something like:
-
n:
family-name: Cox
given-name: Rebecca
additional-name: Laura
On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Rather than attempting to shoehorn this into hCard, perhaps
citations are
the right place to think about this?
I think there is a large difference between what to do with contact
data for an acquaintance who has recently passed away and
On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Ryan King wrote:
That's right. The reason you can't collapse a 'vcard' class name
and its 'fn' class name is that it makes putting a 'vcard' class
name inside another one becomes ambiguous.
I've seen this explanation a few times, and I've never personally
On Apr 19, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Ryan King wrote:
div class=vcard
span class=fnTantek Çelik/span
span class=agent vcard
!-- the order is actually irrelevant here class=vcard
agent is synonymous --
span class=fnRyan King/span
/span
/div
Which hcard does the 'agent'
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
The closest thing to UIDs that current publishers of hCards are
publishing
are their unique URLs within their sites (e.g. Upcoming and
Eventful venues
and events).
I have a concern that using URLs as UIDs will prevent them from being
On Apr 25, 2006, Tantek Çelik wrote:
We *want*
resources that can be identified by network location and thus a
system that
shows a bias *for* that is a *good* thing.
Is the proposal that UIDs SHOULD be URLs or UIDs MUST be URLs? If
it's MUST, that would seem to discourage use of
On Apr 25, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Michael MD wrote:
re:
http://www.dgabcsolutions.com.br/preview/camarascs/cm_home.asp
Is it actually allowed to have a hcalendar event without a date?
If so that could be a problem .. I think in the parser I want to put
together that will have to be a requirement.
On Apr 26, 2006, at 12:13 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
if microformats are going to take off, shouldn't there be a way to
disambiguate inevitable conflicts?
There is. See profiles:
http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-uris
Alternatively, who is to say which version of hCoupon is valid?
Mark
On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Ross, if the problem you're trying to solve doesn't involve common
real
world publishing cases on the *Web*, then yes, it should be
dismissed as far
as microformats are concerned.
A large portion of what is published on the web references
On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
A large portion of what is published on the web references things
that don't exist on the web, and thus don't have a canonical URL.
Right, and to resolve whether it is a large portion or not, we
ask that
such things are documented in
On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
I'm glad there's some progress in this discussion, but you're still
trying to come up with a general rule for disparate things.
Nope, we're trying to come up with a general recommendation, not a
rule. So there's no need to explain why URL
On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
Scott, I wouldn't be so sure.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/behaviors/library/
calendar/calendar.asp
Take a look at the example at the bottom. In my pre-semantic markup
days, I've used CSS to style xml (namespaces and all) tags
On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Christopher St John wrote:
Do you see this as being related to the uf zen garden effort? (which
seems to have stalled a bit)
Here's a working implementation that applies CSS and/or JS to sample
microformat template pages:
On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:03 PM, Xiaoming Liu wrote:
This file can be rendered in IE and Firefox, because they do xslt
client-side rendering, so the display is correct, but when I check
page source, it's still the raw xml file. And when writing a script
to fetch Microformats fragments, I have
On Apr 29, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Benjamin Carlyle wrote:
It is not clear to me at this time that microformats need profiles.
hcard seems to have several profiles:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-profile
http://www.w3.org/2006/03/hcard
hcalendar seems to have none. Has this harmed adoption or
On Apr 30, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Karl Dubost wrote:
*Remember* that I concluded the mail by ying-yang. Nothing is all
good or all bad.
It's yin-yang (no 'g' on 'yin'), and that's not really what it
means. Yin-yang is the balance of opposing forces, e.g. human-
readability and
On May 1, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
All without any requirement of seeing or using English except the one
reference to hCard in the title of the profile.
And all the HTML. The problem is that we need a shared language in
order to communicate, and machines are bad at translation.
On May 1, 2006, at 2:29 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
You have to at least start parsing the html document in order to
know which profiles are used.
Agreed.
The presumption here is that processing is cheap and undirected.
There's no way to download only the DOCTYPE or the head of a
document,
On May 3, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Edward Summers wrote:
On May 3, 2006, at 5:29 AM, brush wrote:
*new microformat?: hparticipants (multiple hcards plus class=role)
-- could be useful in many other circumstances
If a role could somehow be assigned to an hCard it would be very
useful in the
On May 3, 2006, at 1:43 PM, brush wrote:
one thought about role: is it appropriate to re-engineer the
category
from what is apparently originally intended as a relatively static
feature (ie. sales engineer for a person or green construction for
an organization) to something relevant only in
I believe the most common flaw in vevents is currently missing or
incorrect timezones. I was just looking at how timezones are shown
in the examples, and discovered that they aren't. Every single
example is marked as Z. On the live web, I don't see many actually
converting their times
On May 12, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
I believe the most common flaw in vevents is currently missing or
incorrect timezones. I was just looking at how timezones are shown
in the examples, and discovered that they aren't. Every single
example is marked as Z. On the live web, I
On May 12, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Ryan King wrote:
Certainly, we need more educational material on how people should
use timezones.
Deleting attempts to create such material without notice strikes me
as a funny way to get it created.
I'm not sure what you mean by discussion.
I reversed the
On May 25, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
how do we create URIs for partial bits of data like a word
or hcard in the middle of a paragraph?
http://www.eekim.com/blog/tech/hyperscope/hyperscopeuri.html
I'm not sure that's really the question being asked by Eugene. It
sounds like
On May 25, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
What problem is this solving?
What human readable content is this marking up?
This is sounding off-topic for microformats. Am I missing something?
I don't think it's about publishing microformats, but rather parsing
microformats. That
On May 30, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Elias Torres wrote:
I'm missing your point Scott. If what you refer to as real-world
implementation is (vcard, vcalendar, etc), then RDFa draws from them
just as well uF does.
I wasn't comparing microformats and RDFa. I was comparing RDFa and
vcard. There were
On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Mea Culpa.
Okay.
On Jun 1, 2006, at 7:08 PM, Kevin Marks wrote:
Scott, I'm trying to relay pings to you byt they don't seem to eb
working:
It currently fails on anything that's not well-formed X(HT)ML, so
it's probably not worth
On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:51 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
It seems clear to me that, since its talking about markup that
its for
authors.
You asked me to let you know if they lack clarity in any way; not
whether they were clear to you.
Yeah, what's up with asking if it's clear and then arguing
On Jun 3, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Michael Leikam wrote:
I brought up client side parsing not to imply that
sever-side parsing is irrelevant, but to say that there's
already a well-known and robust way to copy precise parts
of the DOM and insert them in precide locations.
You can already implement
On Jun 5, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Michael Leikam wrote:
could you (or anybody else really)
explain a little more about the differences you see between
supporting DOM manipulation during the parsing, as I've
suggested, and supporting include-patterns?
The include pattern describes simple behavior
On Jun 7, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Perhaps this should be an FAQ with more explanation, but the
microformats-dev list is open for subscription to only those with a
public
implementation.
FYI, I have two microformat parsers. I've read multiple suggestions
that I should join
On Jun 7, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Drew McLellan wrote:
The link to the signup page is here: http://microformats.org/discuss/
That's the Discuss page of microformats.org - it's on every page as
part of the main navigation bar. I'd like to be able to suggest
ways to make it easier to find, but
On Jun 11, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Michael Leikam wrote:
As I understand it, well-formed XHTML is required when
authoring content because it needs to be rendered by user
agents (e.g., browsers) in a human-friendly way *and*
parsable by XML tools (like Brians X2V parser, which uses
XSLT to reformat
On Jun 13, 2006, at 4:18 PM, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote:
I was going to report the happy news that LinkedIn [1] is using
hCards, as my little Greasemonkey script was showing an icon on the
page. Alas, it's not to be -- here's what they're doing:
p
class=vcarda
On Jun 13, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Ideally, they'd be using microformats, but they're not doing anything
wrong here. Microformats don't own class attributes, and that's a
perfectly descriptive use of the class attribute. I think this is a
good reminder that those of us writing
On Jun 19, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Patrick Crowley wrote:
Great job on MF search, guys.
My hCard is showing up nicely now, but I noticed my email is sitting
out in the open. Any chance you can add spam protection to search
results?
Isn't it already sitting out in the open for the search to have
On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Drew McLellan wrote:
I poked around looking at stuff that's already out there, including
Microformats Base, but I couldn't find anything that fitted the
model I was after - namely chuck in a string or URL, and get out an
array structure of, say, hCards.
So in
On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Drew McLellan wrote:
I poked around looking at stuff that's already out there, including
Microformats Base, but I couldn't find anything that fitted the
model I was after - namely chuck in a string or URL, and get out an
array structure of, say, hCards.
I
On Jun 20, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Drew McLellan wrote:
I'll not keep clogging up this list with updates, but I thought
this one was worth it as I've fixed a large number of problems
since the initial release last night.
I'd be interested in hearing about such updates, though I agree they
On Jun 21, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
So, here's a challenge: what kind of solutions can we come up with
that are single click only?
I just made this Greasemonkey script yesterday:
http://greasemonkey.makedatamakesense.com/callto_tel/
It wraps TEL numbers in hcards with callto:
On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Sam points out that I am employed by Technorati and implies that
poses some
sort of conflict or corporate bias. I'll challenge you on that
Sam, because
the (by design deliberate) policies of having open email/IRC/wiki with
archives actually
On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Hamper compared to what?
When I'm telling someone about microformats and they express concern
that Technorati might try to control microformats as Microsoft or
Google has been feared trying to control the web, or Apple trying to
control
On Jun 22, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Kevin Marks wrote:
The point of microformats is to give up control. Technorati
genuinely believes that distributed open formats are more valuable
than centralised closed ones, and that is a big reason why Tantek
and I work here.
I know all this. My point is
On Jun 22, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
The microformat chunks (e.g. hCards, hCalendar events, hReviews
etc.) that
have an id attribute are much easier to automatically reference
(and thus
link to and browser/scroll to from search results) than those without.
In the past, I've
On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Including references to fragments on other pages creates the
problems
Chris brought up: that the fragment, which may be from some other
author and
may be arbitrarily formed or invalid or impermanent.
Tantek wrote on IRC today that it is not
On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Lee Amosslee wrote:
I've read all the FAQ pages, and maybe I'm just being dense, but
can someone explain to me the difference between a hyperlink that
should include rel-tag and one that *shouldn't* include one?
The microformats wiki states:
By adding
On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:17 PM, Sho Kuwamoto wrote:
Depending on the look I wanted to achieve, I might find myself needing
to surround, say, the first three divs by another div (let's call it
leftColumn because there is no semantic relationship between these
three sections).
Why isn't leftColumn
On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote:
It'd be pretty neat to have a browser widget that converted all the
USD prices on an American site into their equivalent GBP on mouseover,
or something along those lines.
It already is pretty neat:
http://viewmycurrency.wordpress.com/about/
On Jul 18, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Ryan King wrote:
Another problem - going to, for example,
http://www.bath.ac.uk/whats-on/getevent.php?event_id=3010catIds=ALL
Tails use the correct date (17 July) whereas the Google hCalendar
Greeasemonkey script uses a date of 16 July.
I'm not familiar that
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