Re: LR books
In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:00:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. The Adobe Photoshhop Lightroom Book by Martin Evening, published by Adobe Press. (Remember when computer programs came with books like this? They were called Users' Manuals...) stan = There is a series of books out now for various programs, subtitled, The Missing Manual. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
More flowers
Taken several years ago with my ZX-5N (still have it and use it): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946700size=lg I'll be visiting the Garfield Park Conservatory (Chicago) again this summer for the Niki in the Garden Exhibition, sculptures by French-born, New York-raised Niki de Saint Phalle (1930-2002) - many photos are at http://www.nikiinthegarden.com/photos/index.html Maris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Really solid photograph, Paul. I can't decide which is better, the creamy background or the crisp foreground. -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: rootbeer?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 09 May 2007 01:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Utah's rather unusual, for exactly that reason. The Latter Day Saints take a dim view of any mind-altering substance. ...other than bullshit. -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photo of the day
Something I thought I would never see: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42898000/jpg/_42898991_leaders20 3.jpg I think this is a really extraordinary news photo, and goes right to the heart of what is great about news photography. In or out of the context of the situation (which I agree is extraordinary and I hope sustainable)? News photography is inseparable from the context. If it were 2 ordinary people the picture would be nothing, but to have a picture of these 2 laughing together would have been unthinkable even a few months ago. When you look back over the events of the last 40 years it seems almost impossible to think that this could happen and that these 2 people could be leading it together. Regards Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bogen / Manfrotto 322R Ball Head
Hi Feroze, On Wed, 09 May 2007 00:53:42 +0200, Feroze wrote: I've noticed that the grip is off center, seems to work though. Do have have any of the problems as mentioned by Bob W wrt the grip not locking properly? If you mean the grip (handle) on tis head, yes it does have a bit of creep when it is tightened. For the way I use it that is not a big problem though, I use it with AF lenses like the FA 400 on a monopod. What I was refering to in my post wast the tripod-thread on the K10D battery-grip that is off-center (not under the lens). Anyway, for what you seem to want from it (stable platform for macro) a regular three-way head seems much better than this one. I use the Manfrotto 405 geared head for that, which is superb but expensive. But even the relatively checp 141 or 141RC heads are quite good for such work where speed of operation is not much of an issue. I think the 141RC head is even cheaper than the 322 one ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: can we include a freaking subject, please?
On 8/5/07, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed: You guys are killing the archiving software. I blame Godfrey. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re- (was - Re: )
On 8/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: It's more like striving towards objectivity leads in the direction of making a judgement that's free from emotions or personal prejudices. Striving, but never actually reaching.. :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
On 8/5/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. Enjoyed. Like it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Thanks Rob. It's the DA 50-200. A lot of lens for the money. Paul On May 8, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 09/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg LOL, that's actually quite an nice flower shot Paul. The colour and density of the buds is extraordinary, I don't know that I've ever seen a flower like this before, smooth as a baby's butt bokeh too ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Thanks Godders. The fragrance is wafting in my patio door. One of the great joys of spring. Paul On May 8, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). I did, a little while ago. Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Very nice. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Cliche
Not at all a cliche. It's an excellent composition and a rather unique look. Paul On May 8, 2007, at 10:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I like it, it's a nice quiet photo with a lot of graphic qualities to it. G On May 8, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld, ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4739.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Thanks, Fernando. Yes, the DA 50-200 is probably my most used lens. It's perfect for wandering around outside with Grace. Paul On May 8, 2007, at 11:54 PM, Fernando Terrazzino wrote: I like the light and contrast of the image, very pleasing. And you did this with a consumer zoom... (was the DA50-200 right?). You make me feel bad... my DA50-200 is sleeping in a drawer ;-( On 5/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Thanks Ken. She's really into bubbles now. She's just really discovering the world outside the house. She was almost too young to appreciate it last year. Paul On May 8, 2007, at 11:28 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Nice capture Paul, the look in her eyes is magical ! Bubbles can do that for a child her age. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Cheap Emotional Ploy
Thanks, Maris. On May 8, 2007, at 11:53 PM, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: Wonderful expression - wonderful bubbles captured - wonderful picture! Hang it up on your wall. Maris Paul Stenquist wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Thanks, Brendan. On May 9, 2007, at 2:29 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Really solid photograph, Paul. I can't decide which is better, the creamy background or the crisp foreground. -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)
I'm prepering a shopping cart at amazon. The plan is to send it when I have the lens money in the bank. First I need something light on Elements. So I'm leaning against Scott Kelby, The Photoshop Elements 5 Book for Digital Photographers. The reviews indicates that this is light humourous reading. A light approach on the subject seems good for my PS fobia. Me and Lightroom gets along very well, but to read up on it might be productive. So there I'm debating two candidates Kelby og Evening. I could by both, but that sounds like overkill at the moment. The workflow book by Bruce Frasier has been recomended several times. The one thing that is holding me back, is that I'm a bit scared by the idea of geting Computer Program Bying Adiction by reading about the big brother in the PS family. I want to standardise on Elements for a while, and see how we gets along. The cheap part of me says I will do very well, with Lightroom as a frontend. But I'm weak against temptations. Back to Kelby's Elements book. Some reviews indicates that it is too light. Are there other better alternatives, that are not too detailed trigging my PS phobia? A search at amazon gives too many results. I'm not able to sort out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-) Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 I have two of Fraser's books. The only things wrong with them are the titles. They both refer specifically to Photoshop CS/CS2, giving the impreession that they aren't much use for Elements or earlier versions of Photoshop. I'm still using Photoshop 6 and Elements 1 and both books have changed the way I use those programs. There are parts of the books that are CS/CS2 specific but there's so much more in them of more general application. I highly recommend them (Real World Image Sharpening and Real World Camera Raw) - especially the one on sharpening. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unitentionally I was refering to a private joke by telling you about my ONE BOOK. Rather stupid by me refering to something you couldnt posibly understand. I might as well let you in on the joke. It refered a little story about a couple of brothers who inhereted a fine book collection. They turned it down, because they had a book. Thank you Godfrey, for not giving up on me on this topic ;-) I'm selling a lens now, a dustcollector. I'm talking about 400USD, so I might turn the cash into some of the recomended reading. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 On May 8, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Yeah. I've heared about books ;-) I have one about Elements, Elements in a snap. Total crap, written by a computer geek. A lot details, but nothing giving me a general understanding. A lot of how's, but no why's. It's unfair to consider one book that didn't help you as being indicative of all authors' work. Bruce Fraser/David Blattner, Scott Kelby and Martin Evening have all published well-written books on using Photoshop CS2 from a photographer's perspective (several at least for Scott Kelby). Some parts are technique oriented (do this to get that result), some parts have a more 'reference'/theory perspective. Which would be best for your particular learning is hard to say. I have a couple of Scott's books, one by Martin on Lightroom, and all of Bruce Fraser's books. In particular, I find Bruce Fraser very illuminating and interesting. I don't read any of them exhaustively in a sitting, I tend to skim and look up specific things that I want more clarity on. I often look up how to do something, read a bit to get some context, and then experiment with the ideas having the book open on my desk. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 08.05.2007 14:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
On May 8, 2007, at 6:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Utah at least banned Marijuana because the Mormon Church took a dim view of it's use by Mormons... When I was in college I dated a Mormon girl for a while. She would not drink coffee or smoke tobacco because they are strictly forbidden in the Book of Mormon. She smoked pot like a chimney because it was not mentioned in the Book, and therefore was not forbidden. The Mormon Church must have changed its opinion since then (1965). Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
On May 8, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Feroze wrote: I think it was a guy called Harry Anslinger, the Commissioner of the US Federal Bureau of Narcotics in the 1930's. He did it to increase funding for his newly formed FBN. Apprently he also worked with the cotton industry to get hemp banned because its cheaper than cotton and lasts longer, and with the drug industry to marijuana banned as its way cheaper than pain killers and safer for people suffer from cancer and AIDS He is at least responsible for making Reefer Madness and the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act Yeah. I'm not sure if it was him or some later idiot who got the USA to ban diacetyl morphine, a most effective pain reliever. Of course we call it heroin in the USA, and it's illegal everywhere, but as I understand it is available by prescription in the UK and other civilized countries. If someone is dying and in great pain, who gives a rat's ass if what you give them might be addictive? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
On May 8, 2007, at 9:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Egad. Sounds like his name should go down in infamy. It has. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/08 Tue PM 07:41:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Adam Maas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe The banning of Marijuana is at least indirectly related to racism (it was seen as a 'Negro Vice' in the first half of the 20th century). Some are still legal from prescription sources (cocaine is used occasionally for medicine, Morphine is actually made from opium). -Adam I read somewhere (can't remember where right now) that drug laws in the US actually got their start in California as a ban on either opium or opium dens. The laws were designed to target Chinese immigrants. The more things change.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070507/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us_drugs Excerpt: CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuela on Monday said it will not allow U.S. agents to carry out counter-drug operations in the country, accusing the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of being a new cartel that aids traffickers. Justice Minister Pedro Carreno said the South American nation suspended cooperation with the agency in 2005 after determining that they were moving a large amount of drugs. President Hugo Chavez at the time also accused the DEA of spying. The United States with its DEA monopolizes the shipping of drugs like a cartel, Carreno told reporters. We determined that we were evidently in the presence of a new cartel. He did not elaborate. Spokesman Brian Penn said the U.S. Embassy categorically denies the accusation and called the DEA the leading agency combatting drug trafficking around the world. We'd like to cooperate with Venezuela to not only increase the number of seizures in Venezuela but also to help them to prosecute narcotraffickers who are operating in Venezuelan territory. We think sharing of information can aid Venezuela in this, Penn said. Washington has repeatedly accused Venezuela of not cooperating in counter-drug efforts and says cocaine shipments are increasingly passing through the country from neighboring Colombia. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
This is so mush better than Waterworks 1. IMO #1 was just a recording, this is a photograph. The funny thing is that comparing the makes me think of street photgraphy. The first one is a distant snap, but here you shows cojones and walks closer, facing the beast. Just like in good street photo. The first one is so respectful towards the buildng that it reveals nothing about the building. I hope this makes sense to you. Because this is the main differense between those of your shots I like, and those I don't. No offense intended. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:02 AM Subject: Waterworks 2 Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 08.05.2007 14:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
Tim Øsleby wrote: This is not just another olive sparrow, it is The sparrow. Very well done. Thanks, Tim. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/05/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, last one... for a while :-) I'm catching a plane back home tomorrow. Here's another olive sparrow; bathing. http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd Same setup but no flash. We were getting set to leave the blind and had dismantled most of our gear when they landed and started bathing and using my perch. Definitely not a typical static birding shot, I like it, thought it's tainted by my lack of love for the sparrow as they an introduced pest here, I assume your subject is in its natural environment? Cheers, Yes, olive sparrows are only found in South Texas in the US. House sparrows on the other hand should be destroyed... Thanks for looking, Rob. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
Kenneth Waller wrote: Nice capture ! Thanks, Ken! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Another piece (not flower)
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Re: OT: rootbeer?
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/08 Tue PM 08:44:09 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Somebody send some of this stuff to trace. (Who is she anyway??) Distant cousin of N. Hance. Lost relative of Ana Lysis. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Class update 1
Thanks Cotty. It will have to be a fast class, as there is usually a line up for the beer cooler.:-) Only bummer for this course is the Monday that we travel back home. That class i will obviously miss, and its going to be the outdoor session, fill flash etc. Maybe someone can offer a fill flash class at the truck.:-) Dave On 5/8/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/5/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry for the OT and ramble.Thansk for listening and support Dave, your musings are always worth a read, mate. Please never stop. Good luck with the course. I'll expect a masterclass from the tailgate of your truck :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)
On May 9, 2007, at 3:49 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: First I need something light on Elements. So I'm leaning against Scott Kelby, The Photoshop Elements 5 Book for Digital Photographers. The reviews indicates that this is light humourous reading. A light approach on the subject seems good for my PS fobia. Me and Lightroom gets along very well, but to read up on it might be productive. So there I'm debating two candidates Kelby og Evening. I could by both, but that sounds like overkill at the moment. Scott's book seems a little more suited to the person starting out using Lightroom where Martin's book is more comprehensive, reference documentation grade. The workflow book by Bruce Frasier has been recomended several times. The one thing that is holding me back, is that I'm a bit scared by the idea of geting Computer Program Bying Adiction by reading about the big brother in the PS family. I want to standardise on Elements for a while, and see how we gets along. The cheap part of me says I will do very well, with Lightroom as a frontend. But I'm weak against temptations. Real World Camera Raw has a lot of relevance for anyone doing RAW conversion and any user of Camera Raw. It discusses a lot of features of Bridge and Camera Raw that are only germaine to Photoshop CS/CS2 and are not relevant to PSElements use (they're just not available), but if you're using Lightroom most of those things (and more) are accessible to you anyway albeit with a different UI and workflow basis. Back to Kelby's Elements book. Some reviews indicates that it is too light. Are there other better alternatives, that are not too detailed trigging my PS phobia? A search at amazon gives too many results. I'm not able to sort out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-) Scott tends to write with a folksy, humorous approach in his language. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it grates on me a little bit. Overall he provides good, useful information. I haven't read his books on PSE specifically. Given Lightroom as the basis of your photo work, what you want to use PSE for is the higher level, selective RGB editing features that are not available in Lightroom rather than overall workflow and basics. Look for books that show techniques to accomplish specific editing tasks beyond the level of across-the-board, whole image editing features. Scott's The Photoshop CS Book for Digital Photographers is like that: a bunch of useful techniques for specific editing situations. David Blattner/Bruce Fraser's Real World Photoshop CS2 is like that too, although more comprehensive, and might prove suitable as well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Class update 1
On 5/9/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Cotty. It will have to be a fast class, as there is usually a line up for the beer cooler.:-) Only bummer for this course is the Monday that we travel back home. That class i will obviously miss, and its going to be the outdoor session, fill flash etc. Maybe someone can offer a fill flash class at the truck.:-) And while they're at it maybe someone else can give a fill glass tutorial. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
Grace must be on the verge of suffering from Star Syndrome. ;-) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Feels a little bottom heavy, but a pleasant shot. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Maybe the cats.(?) :) Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, what about all the birds Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photo of the day
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/08 Tue PM 10:45:21 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Photo of the day Something I thought I would never see: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42898000/jpg/_42898991_leaders20 3.jpg I think this is a really extraordinary news photo, and goes right to the heart of what is great about news photography. It's either a phix in Photoshop, or one or both of them is a liar and a hypocrite. Possibly all three. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
Thanks, Godfrey. I know what you mean; I played with this for the better part of an hour, but couldn't seem to improve on the original. The background on the right bugs me particularly, but I don't have the PS savvy to remove it, and cropping it out proved too damaging. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this a lot. Curiously, it's a photo I would like to modify just a wee bit to make it more abstract. A little cropping, a little airbrushing away the details in the background ... that sort of thing. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
Maris, I can see what you mean. Maybe the virtue of the background showing through on the right is that it punctures an sense of artifice. Rick --- Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't look real to me - looks like a screenshot from a videogame. Sorry - it's only my 2-cents Maris Rick Womer wrote: Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Class update 1
On 5/9/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/9/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Cotty. It will have to be a fast class, as there is usually a line up for the beer cooler.:-) Only bummer for this course is the Monday that we travel back home. That class i will obviously miss, and its going to be the outdoor session, fill flash etc. Maybe someone can offer a fill flash class at the truck.:-) And while they're at it maybe someone else can give a fill glass tutorial. Norm di that for us last year. Maybe if we ask nice again Dave Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
Thanks, Cotty! --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/5/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. Enjoyed. Like it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Photoshop and the Exif info
When you edit a photo (with Photoshop) taken with a digital camera, Photoshop changes some of the Exif info. If you remember when I talked about the Pentax gallery rejecting some photos taken with the ist D body because the gallery could not read the Pentax ist D firmware in the Exif file as Photoshop changes it to read Photoshop as the firmware. Adobe is aware of this and there was talk of it being fixed in Photoshop CS3.. Does anyone on the list use a good Exif editor such as Opanda which is kind of expension. I have looked at a lot of Exif readers and editors and none of them(that I am aware of) will let you change the firmware listing in the Exif file. Some of you guys said just to say it was a scanned photo and clear out all the exif info. But if you do that, when you say what camera was used (ist D), the gallery looks for the exif info and can not find it and rejects it. Ok so anyone have a good work around this or a good Exif editor that will let you change the firmware listing back to Pentax ist DThanks Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
No offense taken, Tim, and I much appreciate your comments! I think I =do= tend to photgraph cautiously and should experiment more. The Waterworks location has =many= intriguing subjects for that. Rick --- Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is so mush better than Waterworks 1. IMO #1 was just a recording, this is a photograph. The funny thing is that comparing the makes me think of street photgraphy. The first one is a distant snap, but here you shows cojones and walks closer, facing the beast. Just like in good street photo. The first one is so respectful towards the buildng that it reveals nothing about the building. I hope this makes sense to you. Because this is the main differense between those of your shots I like, and those I don't. No offense intended. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:02 AM Subject: Waterworks 2 Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/794 - Release Date: 08.05.2007 14:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
On 09/05/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. The colour, lighting and contrast in this shot is fantastic, the columns have a surreal perspective, they look interestingly out of place I suspect due to the fact that the tops aren't visible. It's so much more dramatic than the first shot of the series. The only thing that bothers me is the blue and green visible at the right however even if you could have shot the image with that area out of the frame I suspect that you would have lost the great effect on the columns as you would have been shooting them faced squarer onto the sun. Very interesting shot, I hope you filled your memory cards whilst you were there, it seems like a great subject. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photo of the day
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/09 Wed AM 12:27:32 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photo of the day Um... Sorry. I don't get it. Who are those guys? CW Two of a small group that have brought more death, destruction and misery to these islands than anyone since Hitler. They are happy because our government has handed over power to them so they can continue to extort and terrorise their local populace. Just in a more subtle way than before. It's Blair's last-ditch attempt to be remembered for something other than the quagmire in the middle east. - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Photo of the day Something I thought I would never see: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42898000/jpg/_42898991_leaders20 3.jpg I think this is a really extraordinary news photo, and goes right to the heart of what is great about news photography. -- Regards, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 5/7/2007 2:55 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
Brian, What intrigued me was the lines--columns, shadows, clapboards, gable, the ridges on the roof, even the pattern in the bricks. I wasn't thinking in terms of foreground and background, really, except to try to minimize the railroad bridges and highways on the right. Thanks for your comments. Rick --- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick I really like the columns and shadows but they seem to overpower the background a bit. None the less a very dramatic image - I can see why you enjoyed photographing this location. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Enjoy! Comments welcome. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: can we include a freaking subject, please?
On May 9, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 09/05/07, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys are killing the archiving software. Wow, It does really spack out when there's a lack of subject line, it's a bit twilight zone ;-) Well, since I saved all the individual messages, if y'all want them in the archive in an accessible form I can repost them in time- ordered sequence with a subject. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Re: can we include a freaking subject, please?
On 09/05/07, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys are killing the archiving software. Wow, It does really spack out when there's a lack of subject line, it's a bit twilight zone ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Eatock’s POW
I found this link in one of the blogs that I read from time to time (yes, I read blogs, is a tough job but someone has to do it). Is just a picture-a-week website with photos that look like taken with a 1mb PS but some of the titles are really funny. Just a warning, this doesn't come with Tom's A++ Certified super duper ultra image approval ;o) http://www.danieleatock.com/project/picture-of-the-week/ -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
J wrote: I have looked at a lot of Exif readers and editors and none of them(that I am aware of) will let you change the firmware listing in the Exif file. EXIF Editor lets you change anything and everything in the EXIF data: http://www.kiwiczech.net/index.php?menu=353sub=4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
Bob Shell wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 6:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Utah at least banned Marijuana because the Mormon Church took a dim view of it's use by Mormons... When I was in college I dated a Mormon girl for a while. She would not drink coffee or smoke tobacco because they are strictly forbidden in the Book of Mormon. She smoked pot like a chimney because it was not mentioned in the Book, and therefore was not forbidden. The Mormon Church must have changed its opinion since then (1965). Bob That's more a case of an individual looking for a loophole, not actual Mormon doctrine. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
In a message dated 5/9/2007 4:04:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If someone is dying and in great pain, who gives a rat's ass if what you give them might be addictive? Bob = I did hospice with my Mom. The die at home thing. Hospices hand out morphine pretty freely. So this former attitude has changed quite a bit. At least through the hospice system. I was relieved to find that out anyway, or I wouldn't have even considered hospice. Yes, you are supposed to give the dosage the doctor recommends, but, OTOH, you have the whole dang bottle. I stuck to the recommended dosage, but really I wouldn't have had to. Hospice patients also slide pretty much through autopsies. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
Growing hemp was encouraged during WWII to provide fiber for the manufacture of manilla rope. At the edge of the small town where I grew up there was a mill where they processed the hemp fibers. After the war the buildings were used for canning vegetables, but were referred to by the locals as the hemp mill well into the late 1950's. -p P. J. Alling wrote: I wasn't going to comment, but Cocaine was made illegal much earlier in 1914 by the Harrison Act., and hemp was banned, (in all but name), by the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, pushed by the BATF, though a number of states banned it earlier, Utah being the first in 1915.. J. Edger had little or nothing to do with it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Not as annoying as having to press 9 for english (typical in Quebec). Who gets the first eight? William Robb Nobody. It's just Press 9 for English. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
She's had a camera in front of her ever since she was born. She probably figures that everyone's life is recorded in minute detail:-). She certainly ignores it for the most part. That makes her a great model. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grace must be on the verge of suffering from Star Syndrome. ;-) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- Original message -- From: J [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you edit a photo (with Photoshop) taken with a digital camera, Photoshop changes some of the Exif info. If you remember when I talked about the Pentax gallery rejecting some photos taken with the ist D body because the gallery could not read the Pentax ist D firmware in the Exif file as Photoshop changes it to read Photoshop as the firmware. Adobe is aware of this and there was talk of it being fixed in Photoshop CS3.. Does anyone on the list use a good Exif editor such as Opanda which is kind of expension. I have looked at a lot of Exif readers and editors and none of them(that I am aware of) will let you change the firmware listing in the Exif file. Some of you guys said just to say it was a scanned photo and clear out all the exif info. But if you do that, when you say what camera was used (ist D), the gallery looks for the exif info and can not find it and rejects it. Ok so anyone have a good work around this or a good Exif editor that will let you change the firmware listing back to Pentax ist DThanks Joe www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: They're baaaack!
First babies of the year spotted in the car park yesterday http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/78480271 Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Cliche
Bruce Dayton wrote: I've been buried under with work and have only been able to follow the list lightly. Me too The thread about objective/subjective perceptions and comments has been rather interesting. What thread? :) I said lightly reading the list didn't I? So I guess you all can look at this shot and choose to comment or not grin. Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld, ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4739.htm Comments welcome That caused me to proceed to the next few photos - of which this was my favorite and I didnt remember seeing it before http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4692a.htm I like this one of the ice-plant a bit better than 4439 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4740a.htm ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)
Tim - Take a look at The Hidden Power of Photoshop Elements, by Richard Lynch. It's a pretty good Elements primer and includes a CD with additional tools that he has developed. It's available in print for Elements v3 and v4 from Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/2gjwl2 The update for v5 is not quite ready yet and will be only available electronically. You can check all the versions out in depth here... http://tinyurl.com/2b4er2 -p Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm prepering a shopping cart at amazon. The plan is to send it when I have the lens money in the bank. First I need something light on Elements. So I'm leaning against Scott Kelby, The Photoshop Elements 5 Book for Digital Photographers. The reviews indicates that this is light humourous reading. A light approach on the subject seems good for my PS fobia. Me and Lightroom gets along very well, but to read up on it might be productive. So there I'm debating two candidates Kelby og Evening. I could by both, but that sounds like overkill at the moment. The workflow book by Bruce Frasier has been recomended several times. The one thing that is holding me back, is that I'm a bit scared by the idea of geting Computer Program Bying Adiction by reading about the big brother in the PS family. I want to standardise on Elements for a while, and see how we gets along. The cheap part of me says I will do very well, with Lightroom as a frontend. But I'm weak against temptations. Back to Kelby's Elements book. Some reviews indicates that it is too light. Are there other better alternatives, that are not too detailed trigging my PS phobia? A search at amazon gives too many results. I'm not able to sort out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-) Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 I have two of Fraser's books. The only things wrong with them are the titles. They both refer specifically to Photoshop CS/CS2, giving the impreession that they aren't much use for Elements or earlier versions of Photoshop. I'm still using Photoshop 6 and Elements 1 and both books have changed the way I use those programs. There are parts of the books that are CS/CS2 specific but there's so much more in them of more general application. I highly recommend them (Real World Image Sharpening and Real World Camera Raw) - especially the one on sharpening. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unitentionally I was refering to a private joke by telling you about my ONE BOOK. Rather stupid by me refering to something you couldnt posibly understand. I might as well let you in on the joke. It refered a little story about a couple of brothers who inhereted a fine book collection. They turned it down, because they had a book. Thank you Godfrey, for not giving up on me on this topic ;-) I'm selling a lens now, a dustcollector. I'm talking about 400USD, so I might turn the cash into some of the recomended reading. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 On May 8, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Yeah. I've heared about books ;-) I have one about Elements, Elements in a snap. Total crap, written by a computer geek. A lot details, but nothing giving me a general understanding. A lot of how's, but no why's. It's unfair to consider one book that didn't help you as being indicative of all authors' work. Bruce Fraser/David Blattner, Scott Kelby and Martin Evening have all published well-written books on using Photoshop CS2 from a photographer's perspective (several at least for Scott Kelby). Some parts are technique oriented (do this to get that result), some parts have a more 'reference'/theory perspective. Which would be best for your particular learning is hard to say. I have a couple of Scott's books, one by Martin on Lightroom, and all of Bruce Fraser's books. In particular, I find Bruce Fraser very illuminating and interesting. I don't read any of them exhaustively in a sitting, I tend to skim and look up specific things that I want more clarity on. I often look up how to do something, read a bit to get some context, and then experiment with the ideas having the book open on my desk. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: LR books
On 5/8/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book for Digital Photographers by Scott Kelby. I have that and the Martin Evening book. I' was going to order the Kelby book with my LR order last week, but it would have held up the mailing until late May or Early June, as the book was not in stock, so i just ordered the LR.. I have two other Kelby books, and like the way he presents the tutorials, so i'll most likely pick his book up Dave Tina Manley on one of my other lists also had this to offer: For those who have had questions about Adobe's Lightroom, I can highly recommend Michael Clark's eBook Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I also have Martin Evenings' The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book. The difference is that Martin Evenings' book is very, very thorough and covers every way to do everything. It is 336 pages long. I'm on Chapter Two and will finish it someday. I'm sure I'll learn a lot, but I wanted something to help me jump right in. Michael Clark's eBook is an outline of his workflow with Lightroom. He takes you through, step by step, and tells you how he does each step and why. He doesn't go into other ways of working or all of the mechanics behind the program. He does tell you reasons that he has chosen to work the way he does. It all makes good sense. His book is 96 pages long and I finished it in one night. I have changed several steps in my workflow and found out quite a few things that the program will do that I didn't know about. I hope this helps. I'm not connected with either publication - just looking for help! http://www.michaelclarkphoto.com/workflow.html G On May 8, 2007, at 7:51 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: After working with Lightroom for a couple of days, and trying unsuccessfully to find answers in the Help system, I knew I had to buy a good book to help me into the depths of the program. (No offense to Godfrey, our own on-line Help system for LR, but I did really want my own book to read.) Some web search revealed zero, nada, nothing, zip. But two books due for release in May. So I ordered from Amazon, they arrived today. 1. The Adobe Photoshhop Lightroom Book by Martin Evening, published by Adobe Press. (Remember when computer programs came with books like this? They were called Users' Manuals...) 2. Adobe Photoshop Lightroom: for digital photographers Only, by Rob Sheppard, published by Wiley. After a very cursory look through the two, I would say that the Evening book is more like a well done referrence manual, and the Sheppard book is more like an instruction manual. Both have pretty pictures and good graphics. Now excuse me, I have some reading to do... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)
In a message dated 5/9/2007 3:57:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back to Kelby's Elements book. Some reviews indicates that it is too light. Are there other better alternatives, that are not too detailed trigging my PS phobia? A search at amazon gives too many results. I'm not able to sort out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-) Tim Typo Mostly Harmless == http://tinyurl.com/ytnfrt Photoshop CS (or CS2) One on One by Deke McCelland I have found an excellent book. It takes things in easy stages with a lesson format. Each chapter has about 2-4 exercises. It also comes with a disk that has little videos, about five minutes each, that give the first stage of each lesson. The disk also has the sample files/pictures necessary for doing each exercise. I find books with a lesson format are good for learning programs I am unfamiliar with. If you read the reviews, I guess some people find it too dumbed down. I think it is just about right. I am half way through CS One on One and so far have only encountered one lesson that I couldn't quite duplicate what he did. It's about as close as you can get to taking a class. Some people are better at experiential learning, I know I am. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO 2007 - Fog's Edge - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://www.gdgphoto.com/fogsedge/ :-) I'm not a fan of street photography but I DO like your landscapes (tree-scapes?), G. The fog is great, the BW rendering is fantastic and the composition is awesome. Keep those coming! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO 2007 - Fog's Edge - GDG
112 for me as well. I quite like the next one, 116. The others don't really stand out much for me but 112 is nice. I could see that one on my wall http://www.gdgphoto.com/fogsedge/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Jokelson Handtsaem S.A.
I love the third one. Fantastic shot. The first one is certainly colourful - wasn't expecting that from you! Wendy On 5/8/07, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to wear your sunglasses before opening this one. :-) http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8863397 I've recently added a few of the less spectacular kind. So, once you're at it, and if you'd like to have a look: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8832948 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/855640/display/8840952 As always, your comments and suggestions... Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re- (was - Re: )
On 5/9/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: It's more like striving towards objectivity leads in the direction of making a judgement that's free from emotions or personal prejudices. Striving, but never actually reaching.. :-) Geez Louise! Ya looks at a pitcher. Either it's purdy or it's not. Either ya likes it or ya don't. How come we gotta make this so frickin' complicated! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
I know what you mean. The shot doesn't look real. My first thought was that it looked like a model. I do like it though On 5/8/07, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't look real to me - looks like a screenshot from a videogame. Sorry - it's only my 2-cents Maris http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bogen / Manfrotto 322R Ball Head
I have the 3265, the slightly older vertical grip version. I use it with a monpod and 1Dmk2 w/ 70-200 and it's fine with that combo. When I was in the shop buying it, they also had the 322RC2 so I could compare the two and I liked the feel of the 3265 better. Wendy On 5/8/07, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anyone own one of the above, like it? Would you recommend it in terms of value for money, usability, functionality? Would be mounted on the Manfrotto 190X tripod, would this combo hold a K10D+battery pack, 2 batteries , F-100 macro.. Thanks Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Duly Noted
http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=72RyThsF5C I like this one because of the no shelf thing, but the more I looked at the first one, the more I liked it. Something about the colours, some interesting shadows, the patterns of the books, plus, it may be a bit sharper. I suppose it's six of one, half dozen of the other. It was a close choice... I've been off list kinda - who are you and what have you done with Knarf? :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Pretty. That's really nice. Wendy On 5/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Paul Sorenson wrote: Growing hemp was encouraged during WWII to provide fiber for the manufacture of manilla rope. At the edge of the small town where I grew up there was a mill where they processed the hemp fibers. After the war the buildings were used for canning vegetables, but were referred to by the locals as the hemp mill well into the late 1950's. -p We had ditch weed as they called it decide to start growing around our garage growing up in Iowa. Tenacious stuff. When we rented out the house for a year, the folks that lived there had the authorities come out, and they tried to kill with with all sorts of stuff they put around it. The hemp *LOVED* it... mulitplied like madness and grow routinely up to 8-10' tall. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Rail Bird
Kenneth Waller wrote: Gotta get a big lens. Preferably with someone to lug it the tripod around ! And a remaining credit balance to buy the accessories. Seriously, my 500mm lens cost... a lot. Then I needed a gimbal-style head to support it (Since I had a good tripod (bogen 3021) and ball head (big-ass Studioball) I decided on the poor-man's gimbal: the Wimberley Sidekick ~$250. Any 600/4 like Ken's really requires a true gimbal head like his King Cobra or a Wimberley II ~$500. Dedicated Arca-Swiss lens plate ~$58. To protect my lens a camo neoprene cover ~$90. To travel with the lens and take it in the aircraft cabin with me: a new bag. I went cheap and used a Walmart rolling bag for $30 and padded the lens with clothing, but a good well padded camera bag of legal dimensions and big enough to swallow a 600/4, camera body and other junk is ~$350. The list can get even bigger for the flash brackets, a new tripod if your's is not up to spec, etc. etc. On my trip to South Texas last weekend, my suitcase weighed 44 pounds (tripod, head, charges, batteries, flash bracket, more lenses, laptop accessories, oh and some clothes) and my carry-on weighed 30 pounds (500/4, two camera bodies with grips and batteries, 300/4, laptop and a book). A friend just bought the Canon 600/4 L IS for $7000+ He had a tripod but needed everything else and spent ~$1500 on accessories... Birds ain't a cheap subject! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)
P.S. Sorry, guess each video that accompanies each lesson is ten minutes (rereading reviews), not five minutes. And it was only one exercise, not one lesson where I couldn't quite duplicate what he does. There are lots of photos that show what should be happening at each stage of editing a photo a particular way that I found very helpful. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Even though I am very familiar with editing software (Paintshop Pro, Elements), I was still a bit PS phobic myself. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO 2007 - Fog's Edge - GDG
I like 103, 112 and 119. Paul -- Original message -- From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 112 for me as well. I quite like the next one, 116. The others don't really stand out much for me but 112 is nice. I could see that one on my wall http://www.gdgphoto.com/fogsedge/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
Paul Stenquist wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 Or another damn bird picture! Cute shot, Paul. Love the bubbles. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)
Oh, I didn't read what you said carefully enough. I used Elements Classroom in a Book to learn Elements 3. I haven't needed much book learning for later versions of Elements. So I can't vouch for the Elements 5 version http://tinyurl.com/3xs6ad I found the Elements 3 version almost too simple/dumbed down for me after knowing Paintshop Pro, so it might be just right for you. (I don't mean anything by that except your inexperience. :-)) This series is definitely not as good as Deke McCelland's PS books, but it is a pretty easy way to learn the basics of Elements. HTH, Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
The law was passed in 1915. The Church elders, have always taken a dim view of it. I suppose it depends on weather you follow the letter of the law or the spirit. Obviously she believed in following the letter. Bob Shell wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 6:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Utah at least banned Marijuana because the Mormon Church took a dim view of it's use by Mormons... When I was in college I dated a Mormon girl for a while. She would not drink coffee or smoke tobacco because they are strictly forbidden in the Book of Mormon. She smoked pot like a chimney because it was not mentioned in the Book, and therefore was not forbidden. The Mormon Church must have changed its opinion since then (1965). Bob -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
Interesting, but I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of Caracas, any more than I'd believe a word published in Pravda, (obviously the Russians didn't since with the end of the Soviet Union it too disappeared). The DEA is many things, some very bad in my opinion, but drug traffickers? That simply strains credibility past the limit. The current Venezuelan government giving covert support to drug cartels, that's believable since it's in it's interest to make the US look bad and cause the US as much trouble as possible.. mike wilson wrote: From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/08 Tue PM 07:41:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Adam Maas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe The banning of Marijuana is at least indirectly related to racism (it was seen as a 'Negro Vice' in the first half of the 20th century). Some are still legal from prescription sources (cocaine is used occasionally for medicine, Morphine is actually made from opium). -Adam I read somewhere (can't remember where right now) that drug laws in the US actually got their start in California as a ban on either opium or opium dens. The laws were designed to target Chinese immigrants. The more things change.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070507/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us_drugs Excerpt: CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuela on Monday said it will not allow U.S. agents to carry out counter-drug operations in the country, accusing the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of being a new cartel that aids traffickers. Justice Minister Pedro Carreno said the South American nation suspended cooperation with the agency in 2005 after determining that they were moving a large amount of drugs. President Hugo Chavez at the time also accused the DEA of spying. The United States with its DEA monopolizes the shipping of drugs like a cartel, Carreno told reporters. We determined that we were evidently in the presence of a new cartel. He did not elaborate. Spokesman Brian Penn said the U.S. Embassy categorically denies the accusation and called the DEA the leading agency combatting drug trafficking around the world. We'd like to cooperate with Venezuela to not only increase the number of seizures in Venezuela but also to help them to prosecute narcotraffickers who are operating in Venezuelan territory. We think sharing of information can aid Venezuela in this, Penn said. Washington has repeatedly accused Venezuela of not cooperating in counter-drug efforts and says cocaine shipments are increasingly passing through the country from neighboring Colombia. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Jokelson Handtsaem S.A.
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/09 Wed AM 02:27:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Jokelson Handtsaem S.A. Very nice, Ralf. I think Mondrian is getting into your work, particularly in the second. G Never thought of him as someone with a propensity for standing still. On May 8, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: You might want to wear your sunglasses before opening this one. :-) http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8863397 I've recently added a few of the less spectacular kind. So, once you're at it, and if you'd like to have a look: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8832948 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/855640/display/8840952 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re- (was - Re: )
In a message dated 5/9/2007 7:19:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Geez Louise! Ya looks at a pitcher. Either it's purdy or it's not. Either ya likes it or ya don't. How come we gotta make this so frickin' complicated! cheers, frank === IMHO, it isn't. Well said, frank. Or, uh, ... well expressed. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: They're baaaack!
How cute! :-) G On May 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, wendy beard wrote: First babies of the year spotted in the car park yesterday http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/78480271 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Duly Noted
In a message dated 5/9/2007 7:22:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been off list kinda - who are you and what have you done with Knarf? :) ann == I must admit, although I liked the photo, I had a similar reaction. LOL. Marnie aka Doe ;-) I just didn't say so, because it's nice frank is PESOing again. And I will have to adjust to the fact he's doing color. That is just adjustment number one, though. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
Thanks Christian. I always enjoy bird pictures. Yours motivate me to try harder, although my wide-open at f11 gear tends to get in my way:-). I have to try to pick up an A1.4X S converter. That will at least get me to around f8 with my A 400/5.6. No 600/4 in my immediate future. However, I have looked at some K 500/4.5s on ebay. That's some pretty fast glass for a relatively small price. Paul -- Original message -- From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Stenquist wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 Or another damn bird picture! Cute shot, Paul. Love the bubbles. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Duly Noted
On 5/9/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been off list kinda - who are you and what have you done with Knarf? :) He's gone digital now. The Devil has him by the throat... cheers, knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: LR books
On May 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: There's also The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book for Digital Photographers by Scott Kelby. I have that and the Martin Evening book. I' was going to order the Kelby book with my LR order last week, but it would have held up the mailing until late May or Early June, as the book was not in stock, so i just ordered the LR.. I have two other Kelby books, and like the way he presents the tutorials, so i'll most likely pick his book up Hmm. I received mine a week or two ago. Should be in stock now, unless they're selling out regularly. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
Thanks Frank. -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 She's gorgeous (as always). Love the placement of the bubbles. I love it! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
On 5/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 She's gorgeous (as always). Love the placement of the bubbles. I love it! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re- (was - Re: )
I thought you used to be a lawyer? frank theriault wrote: On 5/9/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: It's more like striving towards objectivity leads in the direction of making a judgement that's free from emotions or personal prejudices. Striving, but never actually reaching.. :-) Geez Louise! Ya looks at a pitcher. Either it's purdy or it's not. Either ya likes it or ya don't. How come we gotta make this so frickin' complicated! cheers, frank -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
On 5/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 I have other pictures of homeless people if you insist. And stranger stuff if you really insist. That's a warning, not a threat. ;-) Grace is lovely. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: LR books
On 5/9/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: There's also The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Book for Digital Photographers by Scott Kelby. I have that and the Martin Evening book. I' was going to order the Kelby book with my LR order last week, but it would have held up the mailing until late May or Early June, as the book was not in stock, so i just ordered the LR.. I have two other Kelby books, and like the way he presents the tutorials, so i'll most likely pick his book up Hmm. I received mine a week or two ago. Should be in stock now, unless they're selling out regularly. Could be. I ordered from Amazon dot ca, maybe they are the ones out Dave G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/09 Wed PM 02:27:40 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Interesting, but I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of Caracas, any more than I'd believe a word published in Pravda, (obviously the Russians didn't since with the end of the Soviet Union it too disappeared). The DEA is many things, some very bad in my opinion, but drug traffickers? That simply strains credibility past the limit. The current Venezuelan government giving covert support to drug cartels, that's believable since it's in it's interest to make the US look bad and cause the US as much trouble as possible.. And the reverse isn't? mike wilson wrote: From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/08 Tue PM 07:41:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer? Adam Maas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe The banning of Marijuana is at least indirectly related to racism (it was seen as a 'Negro Vice' in the first half of the 20th century). Some are still legal from prescription sources (cocaine is used occasionally for medicine, Morphine is actually made from opium). -Adam I read somewhere (can't remember where right now) that drug laws in the US actually got their start in California as a ban on either opium or opium dens. The laws were designed to target Chinese immigrants. The more things change.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070507/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us_drugs Excerpt: CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuela on Monday said it will not allow U.S. agents to carry out counter-drug operations in the country, accusing the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of being a new cartel that aids traffickers. Justice Minister Pedro Carreno said the South American nation suspended cooperation with the agency in 2005 after determining that they were moving a large amount of drugs. President Hugo Chavez at the time also accused the DEA of spying. The United States with its DEA monopolizes the shipping of drugs like a cartel, Carreno told reporters. We determined that we were evidently in the presence of a new cartel. He did not elaborate. Spokesman Brian Penn said the U.S. Embassy categorically denies the accusation and called the DEA the leading agency combatting drug trafficking around the world. We'd like to cooperate with Venezuela to not only increase the number of seizures in Venezuela but also to help them to prosecute narcotraffickers who are operating in Venezuelan territory. We think sharing of information can aid Venezuela in this, Penn said. Washington has repeatedly accused Venezuela of not cooperating in counter-drug efforts and says cocaine shipments are increasingly passing through the country from neighboring Colombia. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Duly Noted
On May 9, 2007, at 7:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who are you and what have you done with Knarf? :) I must admit, although I liked the photo, I had a similar reaction. LOL. Marnie aka Doe ;-) I just didn't say so, because it's nice frank is PESOing again. And I will have to adjust to the fact he's doing color. That is just adjustment number one, though. Mick: Will I come out the same as I went in? Doctor: No. But better... - from the film O Lucky Man Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Paul Stenquist wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul Thats beautiful! - Are you submitting stuff ot Horticultural mags? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Cheap Emotional Ploy
Thanks Godders. Stranger stuff is good :-). Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture of a child. Almost as bad as another picture of a homeless person:-)). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946222 I have other pictures of homeless people if you insist. And stranger stuff if you really insist. That's a warning, not a threat. ;-) Grace is lovely. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
HUMOR: seemed apropos ...
http://www.comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/pearls-20070508.html Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Jokelson Handtsaem S.A.
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 09/05/07, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to wear your sunglasses before opening this one. :-) http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8863397 I've recently added a few of the less spectacular kind. So, once you're at it, and if you'd like to have a look: It appeals to me from a historical perspective, it appears to be a very good record shot of an old building with obvious history but beyond that it doesn't do too much for me as an image. ann agrees - it is a bit too perfect... http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8832948 Interesting juxtaposition in this image, it's like a large scale abstract of sorts. Interesting - go back and shoot more Nice idea, maybe better in BW? http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/855640/display/8840952 Ougrée - Maas - Sclessin I would hang on my wall, you seem to be able to extract and present the beauty from the most banal subject matter. You really are the master of industrial nightscapes. Love it. Exactly right - I love all of those too ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: They're baaaack!
Cute, yes. Send them to Stenquist, i think he has room for them:-) Dave On 5/9/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How cute! :-) G On May 9, 2007, at 6:55 AM, wendy beard wrote: First babies of the year spotted in the car park yesterday http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/78480271 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks 2
Rick Womer wrote: Another shot from the old Philadelphia Waterworks, part of the K10D's maiden weekend. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5945997 Nice! The color, light and composition are fantastic. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I hope this isn't another flower picture
Thanks Ann. No, horticultural mags. I did write and photograph a gardening article for Dallas' Home magazine, but that's the extent of my florid production. Paul -- Original message -- From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Stenquist wrote: Damn. The list is going to hell. First it's the homeless, then children, now flowers. Can't anyone post some solid landscapes? :-)). Of course, no offense intended:-). http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5946233size=lg Paul Thats beautiful! - Are you submitting stuff ot Horticultural mags? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Hello J, Looking at an EXIF file, there are 3 entirely different entries: Equipment Maker: PENTAX Corporation Equipment Model: PENTAX *ist DS (my camera) Software Used: Adobe Photoshop CS Depending on software reading the EXIF file, software used is sometime seen as firmware. Editing something in Photoshop (I use a PC) inserts the software used line. If I shot in RAW, I would usually process it through the Pentax Photo Laboratory so it would have that under software used, I notice that Photoshop overwrites that line when you do something there. Photoshop also knocks off the lens data, which is why you are asked to manually identify the lens whether the photo was scanned or digital. I checked most of the shots I submitted and were accepted and they all bore the software used - Adobe Photoshop CS line. In any case, that can be manually edited using the EXIFeditor Mark mentioned earlier. Besides the EXIFeditor Mark gave a link to, I also use Exifer (http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/) to view the contents of my EXIF file (but its for Windows only and cannot edit everything like EXIFeditor does). Cheers, Bong On 5/9/07, J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
Me three ! (*ist D, K10D, PS CS2) I shoot Raw when I convert (initially to tiff finally to jpeg), I notice 1 addition in the camera exif listing - software changes from K10D version 1.10 to Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows. Camera Make model are unchanged in the conversion (Pentax Corp Pentax K10D) Probably a third of my Gallery submissions have been from either the *ist D or the K10D, with no issues. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photoshop and the Exif info Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop and the Exif info
I'm using a Mac and running PSCS 1. Haven't had a problem with Pentax gallery uploads. Paul -- Original message -- From: J [EMAIL PROTECTED] What platform are you using ? Mac or Pc. I am using a Mac...I had photos rejected because the photos did not say that the firmware was Pentax ist DI have notice when using Paintshop Pro on the PC, the exif file is not modified, but I like using PhotoshopJoe At 09:59 AM 5/9/07, you wrote: Me either (*istD/K10D using PS CS2) Cheers, Dave On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had no problems uploading jpegs to Pentax. Some were *istD and some were K10D. All were converted and edited in PhotoShop CS1. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
