[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Question
Greetings Repeater Gurus! Hope everyone had a great weekend! I have a few questions for youhope its an easy answer. I have a friend running a 75W Micor UHF repeater and he needs to operate it for a single user who uses regular PL tone. My friend has a PL module installed on the Tone Squelch board in the receiver and that's working fine, but his unit, of course, doesn't transmit PL which he needs it to do. Does he need a single PL tone encoder card for the card cage? 146.2 Hz. is the tone he needs. After he installs such a card, would the repeater transmit the 146.2 PL tone, even if activated by the Tone Remote? Third question - Are there any other cards or PL modules out there besides the Card Cage type, or are they all strictly the ones that fit in the Unified Chassis? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Question
I have a friend running a 75W Micor UHF repeater and he needs to operate it for a single user who uses regular PL tone. My friend has a PL module installed on the Tone Squelch board in I presume you mean audio-squelch board. Does he need a single PL tone encoder card for the card cage? 146.2 Hz. is the tone he needs. The PL encoder plugs into the exciter, not the card cage. One jumper cut on the exciter board is required. After he installs such a card, would the repeater transmit the 146.2 PL tone, even if activated by the Tone Remote? Yes. Third question - Are there any other cards or PL modules out there besides the Card Cage type, or are they all strictly the ones that fit in the Unified Chassis? See above. Don't confuse a PL encoder board with an F1-PL card in the cage, totally different animal... --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
Jeff DePolo wrote: your input Mike I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that I have had the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station? You're probably seeing the peak in the PL filter's response. If you remove the PL filter and config the A/S board for carrier squelch operation, you'll probably see relatively flat response up to about 2.5 kHz where the splatter filter starts to take over. --- Jeff WN3A Yeah, I thought of that before I tested actually, Jeff. I was using the SCom controller to generate the tones directly to the transmitter in the normal repeat path. But overall repeat audio is about the same. That's a good point for everybody! Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
I know no one cares to see my graphs... But I posted another one anyways. Thank you for this little nugget! I suspected the PL filter as well Threw those resistors on tonight, and while the difference in response measured is not that great, the difference to the ear is huge! This really cleaned up the audio on my box on the bench. Measuring a pure sine wave will probably not show the real effects the ringing has on speech and other complex waveforms, likely validating my observation that the speech is significantly cleaned up. Thanks again for the great experience shared with the group! Tom W9SRV Jeff is right on the nose here I have swept the MICOR and MOTRAC PL filters and there is a defined peak around 400 Hz. It is likely caused by the self resonance of the 6 Henry chokes and associated support components which create the tuned network used in the filter. This can be tamed down (filter made to be flatter in response) to some degree by placing a 220K resistor across the choke(s). See Here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/plf.html Kevin Custer
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
mzfb2001 wrote: I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that I have had the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station? You're probably seeing the peak in the PL filter's response. If you remove the PL filter and config the A/S board for carrier squelch operation, you'll probably see relatively flat response up to about 2.5 kHz where the splatter filter starts to take over. --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
Jeff DePolo wrote: I have had the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station? You're probably seeing the peak in the PL filter's response. If you remove the PL filter and config the A/S board for carrier squelch operation, you'll probably see relatively flat response up to about 2.5 kHz where the splatter filter starts to take over. --- Jeff WN3A Jeff is right on the nose here I have swept the MICOR and MOTRAC PL filters and there is a defined peak around 400 Hz. It is likely caused by the self resonance of the 6 Henry chokes and associated support components which create the tuned network used in the filter. This can be tamed down (filter made to be flatter in response) to some degree by placing a 220K resistor across the choke(s). See Here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/plf.html Kevin Custer
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
Hi Guys, W0INK studied and reported on that topic some time ago: http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/ctcsssrejecthpfilters.pdf 73, Bob Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member S-COM, LLC PO Box 1546 LaPorte, CO 80535-1546 970-416-6505 phone 970-419-3222 fax www.scomcontrollers.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 9:54 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio Jeff DePolo wrote: I have had he opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I ut on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll ff several B/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get bt 4 out @ 00 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. nyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station? You're probably seeing the peak in the PL filter's response. If you remove he PL filter and config the A/S board for carrier squelch operation, you'll robably see relatively flat response up to about 2.5 kHz where the splatter filter starts to take over. --- Jeff WN3A Jeff is right on the nose here I have swept the MICOR and MOTRAC PL filters and there is a defined peak around 400 Hz. It is likely caused by the self resonance of the 6 Henry chokes and associated support components which create the tuned network used in the filter. This can be tamed down (filter made to be flatter in response) to some degree by placing a 220K resistor across the choke(s). See Here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/plf.html Kevin Custer
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Channel elements needed
Hi all, I'm looking for a set of channel elements for a Micor repeater. Receive on 146.16 MHz, Transmit on 146.76 MHz. I've a set of elements for 147R945/147T345 to trade. Thanks in advance, Dave Novotny, WA6IFI dave.novo...@gmail.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
mzfb2001 wrote: I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that I have had the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
Yes, I just measured mine out last week (again) and I believe I have the same thing. I will measure it exactly tommorow and post my findings. Tom W9SRV --- On Mon, 11/16/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 11:55 PM mzfb2001 wrote: I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that I have had the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station? Yahoo! Groups Links repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
I stand corrected. I just checked mine on the bench. Injected signal from my audio generator into the Exciter (pin 24 on the TX interconnect board). Set the output of the generator to acheive 3k deviation at 1k. Then checked the 1/3 octaves from 160 to 6300. I posted the graph in the files section of the group, but I found the peak at 1600Hz. I suppose I could do this again into the PL input to go around the stock audio processing, but this is the way I am going to use it.. However, I believe the audio tailoring I am hearing is actually caused on the RX side of things. The other file I posted in the group a few weeks ago (When I was checking adm vs non-adm) was measued by outputting a constant 3k dev on the service monitor at multiple audio frequencies and measuring the audio input going into the exciter thru the RX and 7K controller with an AC voltmeter. You will see on that graph there is most definatly a bump at 200-400Hz. I can double check, but the last time i swept a straight 7k it was pretty flat in audio response, so the tailoring must be caused by the RX or the AS board and the PL filtering (Which I am using). I'm sure Kevin or someone else out here smarter than me has a logical explainationI'll wait to read it. Tom W9SRV --- On Tue, 11/17/09, TGundo 2003 tgundo2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: TGundo 2003 tgundo2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 12:04 AM Yes, I just measured mine out last week (again) and I believe I have the same thing. I will measure it exactly tommorow and post my findings. Tom W9SRV --- On Mon, 11/16/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 11:55 PM mzfb2001 wrote: I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that I have had the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll off several dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get abt 4 out @ 400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K. Anyone else noticed a peak around 400 Hz on a UHF Micor station? Yahoo! Groups Links repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
First if it is all stock. I would go through the cards and replace the electrolytic caps in the audio path. Or just shot gun all the caps. As old as they are it would be good. I do this when I rebuild any micor or mastr repeater. I have a couple of stock micors up and have them sounding fine. Others may have some suggestions to add. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mzfb2001 Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:51 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
mzfb2001 wrote: I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and on frequency adjustments have made and to seem to be on the money. This is an unmodified repeater station using stock cards and no controller. The receiver is stock and the frequency has been changed to the 440mhz band. The audio coming out of the receiver has fine audio quality. Just looking for your thoughts or ideas. Thanks for your input Mike I'd make sure the channel element is not limiting the quality of your audio. Consider doing a sweep of the frequency response at several deviation levels and see what you have. I've seen re-crystaled elements that were less than good. Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Modifications
tahrens301 wrote: Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today, and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4 receiver in them. (160-174mhz). I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators some other stuff is required, but is it necessary if I go down to 154? I'm working on this as a backup repeater for our FD. Also, DRAT, no channel elements! Did find one other interesting piece - an X9000 base station. Mighty big will certainly hold down the desk. (yep, it really is an x9000 :-)) (previous thread). Thanks, Tim I wouldn't put anything into doing that for a Fire Dept. By the end of 2012, they are REQUIRED to go narrowband on VHF and UHF (low band and 800 are exempt). While there are kits to modify the receivers for Micors and others, there is some serious question as to whether the transmitters can be considered 'certified' or 'accepted' for narrowband use. It's more then just turning down the deviation. There is adjacent channel noise/splatter to consider. Not to mention frequency stability.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Modifications
tahrens301 wrote: Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today, and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4 receiver in them. (160-174mhz). I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators some other stuff is required, but is it necessary if I go down to 154? Yes, the capacitors will need changed for proper operation in the 150.8 to 162 range. The helical resonators for the VHF MICOR were in 2 splits, where the receiver boards were in 4 splits. The helical resonators for the lower of the two splits (xxx1 and xxx2) covered from 132 - 150.8 MHz. The helical resonators for the upper two splits (xxx3 and xxx4) covered 150.8 to 174 MHz. The better thing to do would be to trade someone looking to do a 220 conversion. The xxx4 is the better receiver to start with when doing a 220 conversion. I'd bet with the recent 220 inquiries here there would be someone willing to swap you xxx3's for your xxx4's! Kevin
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Modifications
Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today, and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4 receiver in them. (160-174mhz). I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators some other stuff is required, but is it necessary if I go down to 154? I'm working on this as a backup repeater for our FD. Also, DRAT, no channel elements! Did find one other interesting piece - an X9000 base station. Mighty big will certainly hold down the desk. (yep, it really is an x9000 :-)) (previous thread). Thanks, Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Modifications
They might tune done. If not, try brass screws. I've used this to move high splits to 2 meters. tahrens301 wrote: Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today, and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4 receiver in them. (160-174mhz). I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators some other stuff is required, but is it necessary if I go down to 154? I'm working on this as a backup repeater for our FD. Also, DRAT, no channel elements! Did find one other interesting piece - an X9000 base station. Mighty big will certainly hold down the desk. (yep, it really is an x9000 :-)) (previous thread). Thanks, Tim -- mailto:o...@ozindfw.net Oz POB 93167 Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport)
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
I am building up a Micor repeater using a unified chassis for use in Montana on a Mountain site. Site owner does not want a micor power supply. He has station batteries and charger system. Does anyone have a regulator circuit to make the 9.6 vdc and audio 12 vdc necessary for the unified chassis? I am sure I could design a circuit using a 3 leg adjustable regulator and a pass transistor. Just don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't need to Ralph, W7HSG
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater UHF
Got a Micro low power UHF repeater that was just removed from a tower site for new unit. it has a 10 watt output at this time it is on 463.xxx have other elements if other wanted. will need a controller as it had a Zetron 48 but it will be removed. $50.00 add shipping and pack items.
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater channell element ????
hi all i am looking for a pair of used channell element for my Micor repeater,it is the big cabinet,125 watts output. Before i order a set of crystals maybe i can find a set here in the group. thanks for your help tx 145.450 rx 144.850 gervais ve2ckn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
--- El lun 16-feb-09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net escribió: De:: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater A: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Fecha: lunes, 16 febrero, 2009, 3:28 pm Neal No, this repeater is going to NW Montana to be connected to our (Cactus Intertie ) system that is linked back to Tucson and then the rest of the system. Where in 2 land are you. I was from NJ 39 years ago. Ralph - Original Message - From: neal Newman cozy...@yahoo. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:43:03 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Hey Ralph is this Repeater going to be located at Star Pass Resorts? that overlooks the Entire City of Tucson... Nice Place to Vist.. I was out working in Tucson On New years... The Roadrunners are Coolsame for the Humming Birds Neal Ka2caf --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast. net wrote: From: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast. net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:36 PM Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11:32 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son. Kevin Hi Kevin Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements. My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a scope for his CE-6. Thanks Ralph __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Buenos dias requieroRetiranme del grupo y no recivir mas mensajes gracias --- El lun 16-feb-09, Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx escribió: De:: Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater A: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Fecha: lunes, 16 febrero, 2009, 4:00 pm --- El lun 16-feb-09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast. net escribió: De:: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast. net Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater A: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Fecha: lunes, 16 febrero, 2009, 3:28 pm Neal No, this repeater is going to NW Montana to be connected to our (Cactus Intertie ) system that is linked back to Tucson and then the rest of the system. Where in 2 land are you. I was from NJ 39 years ago. Ralph - Original Message - From: neal Newman cozy...@yahoo. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:43:03 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Hey Ralph is this Repeater going to be located at Star Pass Resorts? that overlooks the Entire City of Tucson... Nice Place to Vist.. I was out working in Tucson On New years... The Roadrunners are Coolsame for the Humming Birds Neal Ka2caf --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast. net wrote: From: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast. net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:36 PM Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11:32 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son. Kevin Hi Kevin Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements. My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a scope for his CE-6. Thanks Ralph _ _ _ _ __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo. yahoo.com. mx/ __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Abajo en este correo hay un link que dice ; “unsubscribe” hazle click ahí y es todo Adios…..! JT From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hector Ricaurte Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Buenos dias requieroRetiranme del grupo y no recivir mas mensajes gracias --- El lun 16-feb-09, Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx escribió: De:: Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater A: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Fecha: lunes, 16 febrero, 2009, 4:00 pm _ _ _ _ __
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
So do I. 12 chassis in all. Some PAs. No power supplies or cabinets. Many cards. These are Community Repeaters - designed for multiple PL access, such as GMRS, etc. Mail direct to: n9wys (at) ameritech (dot) net for info. Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Maire-Radios FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer mailto:kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph, Okay, I mis-understood. I thought the repeater that you are working on was at your son's place. Let me know when you want to get started and I'll try to walk you through. Oh - one question, is it a Unified or Non Unified Chassis? Kevin Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. I pulled the RX interface board and am tracing Pin to pin. Found one jumper missing so far. Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:05:27 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Okay, I mis-understood. I thought the repeater that you are working on was at your son's place. Let me know when you want to get started and I'll try to walk you through. Oh - one question, is it a Unified or Non Unified Chassis? Kevin Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hey Ralph is this Repeater going to be located at Star Pass Resorts? that
overlooks the Entire City of Tucson...
Nice Place to Vist.. I was out working in Tucson On New years... The
Roadrunners are Coolsame for the Humming Birds
Neal Ka2caf
--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net wrote:
From: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:36 PM
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Hi Kevin
This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson.
I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to
you. I need to make some more tests to understand what
I am missing.
Thanks
Ralph
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11:32 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
(Arizona)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph,
Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son.
Kevin
Hi Kevin
Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last
summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in
Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements.
My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a
scope for
his CE-6.
Thanks
Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Neal No, this repeater is going to NW Montana to be connected to our (Cactus Intertie ) system that is linked back to Tucson and then the rest of the system. Where in 2 land are you. I was from NJ 39 years ago. Ralph - Original Message - From: neal Newman cozy...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:43:03 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Hey Ralph is this Repeater going to be located at Star Pass Resorts? that overlooks the Entire City of Tucson... Nice Place to Vist.. I was out working in Tucson On New years... The Roadrunners are Coolsame for the Humming Birds Neal Ka2caf --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net wrote: From: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:36 PM Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11:32 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son. Kevin Hi Kevin Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements. My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a scope for his CE-6. Thanks Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hi Kevin and all Looks like I found the problems. 1. missing Jumper JU 955 Squelch Pot to Audio/Squelch Board 2. Broken wire on both the Squelch Pot low and Vol Hi. 3. Bad connection Pin 9 that connects to the audio/Squelch Board Took the easy way out and ran a new wire. Thanks for the support and forcing me to turn the unit upside down and backwards etc. Pulling the Receiver interconnect board is a pain but worth it. Where do you pull the disc off for an external Squelch controller and control system I have been using pin 15 of the RX connector on the main board. Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:05:27 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Okay, I mis-understood. I thought the repeater that you are working on was at your son's place. Let me know when you want to get started and I'll try to walk you through. Oh - one question, is it a Unified or Non Unified Chassis? Kevin Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that _is not_ made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
I should have added all metal connection with rear mother board. Unified Chassis. Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:54:41 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph S. Turk wrote: Hi Kevin and all Looks like I found the problems. Good. That was easy on my part... grin Where do you pull the disc off for an external Squelch controller and control system I have been using pin 15 of the RX connector on the main board. Pin 3 of the Audio Squelch board is Buffered Discriminator audio. This connects to Pin 15 of the Receiver Interconnect pins. So, you are connecting to the right place. Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Where are they?,complete or parts?, cabinets? how many and how much? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: 02/16/09 18:31:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Tampa bay area of Florida complete in cabinet 9 one in parts in cabinet 1 was working low power have a tone panel one out of cabinet but working with Zetron 48 may have a cabinet for it. all UHF 460 to 470 most 75 watt pa some low power one GMRS 40 watts - Original Message - From: Captainlance To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Where are they?,complete or parts?, cabinets? how many and how much? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: 02/16/09 18:31:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph, Do you have available an oscilloscope? If so, I'll try to walk you through the station an resolve the issue. Kevin Custer Hi all. I am working on a Micor repeater (not Mobile) and I am having problems with the Squelch and Audio circuits. Actual original usage of the Micor repeater is unknown. The repeater will have an external controller. The only module used is the Station Control modified per repeater-builder. Transmitter is all ok. I can not get the Squelch to work with a correctly adjusted/aligned receiver. I also can not get the audio to the speaker with any volume. Very low level. I have both an unmodified audio/Squelch board and a modified (per repeater builder).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hi Kevin Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements. My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a scope for his CE-6. Thanks Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:52:44 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Do you have available an oscilloscope? If so, I'll try to walk you through the station an resolve the issue. Kevin Custer Hi all. I am working on a Micor repeater (not Mobile) and I am having problems with the Squelch and Audio circuits. Actual original usage of the Micor repeater is unknown. The repeater will have an external controller. The only module used is the Station Control modified per repeater-builder. Transmitter is all ok. I can not get the Squelch to work with a correctly adjusted/aligned receiver. I also can not get the audio to the speaker with any volume. Very low level. I have both an unmodified audio/Squelch board and a modified (per repeater builder).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph, Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son. Kevin Hi Kevin Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements. My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a scope for his CE-6. Thanks Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hi Kevin This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson. I will have additional data tomorrow. I will email it to you. I need to make some more tests to understand what I am missing. Thanks Ralph - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11:32 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph, Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son. Kevin Hi Kevin Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any measurements. My next trip up there I will be leaving him a portable 7604 Tek scope and a scope for his CE-6. Thanks Ralph
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hi all. I am working on a Micor repeater (not Mobile) and I am having problems with the Squelch and Audio circuits. Actual original usage of the Micor repeater is unknown. The repeater will have an external controller. The only module used is the Station Control modified per repeater-builder. Transmitter is all ok. I can not get the Squelch to work with a correctly adjusted/aligned receiver. I also can not get the audio to the speaker with any volume. Very low level. I have both an unmodified audio/Squelch board and a modified (per repeater builder). I suspect I need some jumpers on the Unified Chassis interconnect (mother board) in the RX area but for the life of me, I can't seem to figure it out. I might also have to make some changes on the receiver interconnect board The Unified Chassis interconnect board (mother board) is a TLN 5944A. The receiver interconnect board is a TLN 5646A1 I believe I have the correct schematics for all modules. Any Ideas Thanks Ralph, W7HSG
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hi All. I am working on several Micor repeaters for use in Montana linking back to Tucson via the inter-net. These are standard 75 watt complete Micor stations. My problem is with the built in circulator that is feed by the PA prior to the duplexer. I have tuned the circulator using both a signal generator and spectrum Analyzer and used the tracking generator method. I can not get the loss down below 1 db. Is this normal? Other single stage circulators I have used in the past have had less the 1/2 db loss. Any Ideas. I suspect the harmonic filter is the problem but have not tried to take on apart to see. Ralph, W7HSG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
If it were me, I'd suspect the LPF. Sweep it. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Ralph S. Turk To: Repeater-Builder Cc: David Turk Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Hi All. I am working on several Micor repeaters for use in Montana linking back to Tucson via the inter-net. These are standard 75 watt complete Micor stations. My problem is with the built in circulator that is feed by the PA prior to the duplexer. I have tuned the circulator using both a signal generator and spectrum Analyzer and used the tracking generator method. I can not get the loss down below 1 db. Is this normal? Other single stage circulators I have used in the past have had less the 1/2 db loss. Any Ideas. I suspect the harmonic filter is the problem but have not tried to take on apart to see. Ralph, W7HSG
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
If I remember right, Motorola's spec is 92 watts out of the amplifier should yield 75 watts out the back of the station. That translates into 0.9 dB loss through the antenna network (isolator, LPF, etc.). Sounds like your 1 dB is about right...it may be a tenth or two higher since it's being used out-of-band a bit. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ralph S. Turk Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder Cc: David Turk Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Hi All. I am working on several Micor repeaters for use in Montana linking back to Tucson via the inter-net. These are standard 75 watt complete Micor stations. My problem is with the built in circulator that is feed by the PA prior to the duplexer. I have tuned the circulator using both a signal generator and spectrum Analyzer and used the tracking generator method. I can not get the loss down below 1 db. Is this normal? Other single stage circulators I have used in the past have had less the 1/2 db loss. Any Ideas. I suspect the harmonic filter is the problem but have not tried to take on apart to see. Ralph, W7HSG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1911 - Release Date: 1/29/2009 7:13 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater parts
Selling off a old Motorola Micro UHF repeater...parts...TCN 1187A and TLN5649A , with time out timer, encoder board, squelch, etc. Was recently retired from commercial use, PA already sold, this is the transmitter and receiver boards to make a complete repeater, was working when removed. ... Asking $100 plus shipping. email at k8wbl at yahoo.com 73, Tim K8WBL
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater for sale
I have a complete micor uhf repeater for sale it comes with a 90watt pa It has a preamp. It has the 4 micor cans it has the 12 volt power supply it has a rc210 controller with two delay boards and auto patch in it. There are 3 26 amp hour batteries and an astron rs50 amp power supply in it the circulator has already been modified for tuning I sent the chassis to Scot Zimmerman and he modified the station card for hookup to the controller this repeater is in a micor cabinet that stands 6' tall I need to sell the hole thing and I am looking to get $1200 for it. The repeater comes with 2 crystals set for 443.400 and two pl tones crystals set for 107.2. the cans have been tuned for 443.400 also anyone interested in it please call me at 678 455 5093 or send me an email david @ my call sign .com see ya 73's N1IB David Schornak
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
I have a C73RXB3106BT it is a Micor compa Repeater. And I want to put it on 2 meters. Does anyone have or know where I can get a set of manuals for it?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
Ray (I think, hi) On e-bay one often sees these manuals. There are 2 manuals...one for the chassis that has the card info/schematics and the radio or RF part. The last has the service info for the radio including tuning. Not sure what segment of the band your repeater is made for. Most were 150-174. In these the transmitter tunes well, but often the receiver front end helicals have problems moving down to 2 meters. Mot just made too good of a radio. One solution is to remove the 5 tuning slugs from the helicals and insert screws with pan-head screws inside (head of screw inside). They are 10-32 screw. This increases the cap and makes lower freq LC. You have to remove the helical from the PC board for this. Not sure what the bandpass looks like, but still is pretty good. The Micor makes an excellent repeater. Good luck with your project. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: raysagar27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/23 Sun PM 12:18:57 CDT To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater I have a C73RXB3106BT it is a Micor compa Repeater. And I want to put it on 2 meters. Does anyone have or know where I can get a set of manuals for it? Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
got a set but you would have to come get the repeater they are in. I'm in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Maire-Radios Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards North, Ga., check QRZ.com. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = where are you at? - Original Message - From: n3dab To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards I'm trying to locate a TLN5731A PL encoder board and a TRN6002A PL decoder bd. for a UHF Micor Single User Repeater Station. Any one have a working set laying around that they would like to part with ? If so contact me off list please. Thanks Doug N3DAB
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
Thanks John, I'll have to pass on a 1200 mile round trip at todays gas prices to pick up the parts and or the prptr. Thanks for the offer though, I'll keep looking around the local area. 73 -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = got a set but you would have to come get the repeater they are in. I'm in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Maire-Radios Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards North, Ga., check QRZ.com. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = where are you at? - Original Message - From: n3dab To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards I'm trying to locate a TLN5731A PL encoder board and a TRN6002A PL decoder bd. for a UHF Micor Single User Repeater Station. Any one have a working set laying around that they would like to part with ? If so contact me off list please. Thanks Doug N3DAB
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
where are you at? - Original Message - From: n3dab To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards I'm trying to locate a TLN5731A PL encoder board and a TRN6002A PL decoder bd. for a UHF Micor Single User Repeater Station. Any one have a working set laying around that they would like to part with ? If so contact me off list please. Thanks Doug N3DAB
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
North, Ga., check QRZ.com. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = where are you at? - Original Message - From: n3dab To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards I'm trying to locate a TLN5731A PL encoder board and a TRN6002A PL decoder bd. for a UHF Micor Single User Repeater Station. Any one have a working set laying around that they would like to part with ? If so contact me off list please. Thanks Doug N3DAB
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
I'm trying to locate a TLN5731A PL encoder board and a TRN6002A PL decoder bd. for a UHF Micor Single User Repeater Station. Any one have a working set laying around that they would like to part with ? If so contact me off list please. Thanks Doug N3DAB
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Eric and Joe, Thank you for your replies. Assuming this repeater is in functioning (or near-functioning order) on its current frequency (464.050), is it possible to take it down to amateur frequencies? From what I read on the repeater-builder website, it seems like the procedure would be to (paraphrasingsimplifying here) replace a set of capacitors to retune the repeater and then send the channel elements to a crystal house to be re-crystalled/calibrated. Is this correct? Best regards, Mike Benonis Electrical Engineering '09 Department of Drama Sound Engineer The University of Virginia [EMAIL PROTECTED] KI4RIX On Feb 2, 2008, at 23:56 , Eric Lemmon wrote: Mike, The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is described as: C = Compa Station 64 = 75 watt output in the UHF band RCB = Continuous Duty PA 3 = PL Tone-Coded Squelch 1 = N/A 0 = 1 TX and 1 RX 5 = DC Remote Control AT = Repeater Station You can get more information by looking at the numbers stamped on the various boards. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Benonis Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID? Good day, I just picked up what I believe is a Micor repeater at a Hamfest today for free. I'm told the repeater works, but I can't verify that. Here's what I know about it: Form Factor: Rack-Mounted Model Number: C64RCB-3105AY FCC Xmit Info: CC4224C FCC Rcvr Info: RC0080 Frequency: 464.050 MHz (I assume this is TX, but it doesn't say specifically on the label) Cards installed: 2x Four User Control Modules 1x Master Decoder 1x Squelch Gate 1x Station COntrol Module 1x Time Out Timer It has a Motorola power supply in the rack at the bottom. I didn't see any cans mounted in the rack, but I only found one N connector on the back (ublabeled, of course, but it looks like it comes out of a large silver box at the top of the rack with a heatsink on it. I can provide photos of the unit if needed. I'd like to convert this down to the 440 MHz amateur band if possible, for less than say, $1000 in new parts/repairs. Can anyone tell me, based on the information given, if this seems like a reasonable thing to do? If this is a boat anchor, I'm perfectly happy to get rid of it - but I figured, for free, what do I lose? Best regards, Mike Benonis Electrical Engineering '09 Department of Drama Sound Engineer The University of Virginia [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mjb8h%40virginia.edu KI4RIX
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Actually, the C in RCB means continuous duty. If it were a T as in RTB it means intermittent duty. I found this information in almost every Motorola Micor manual I own. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID? Actually, the 'RC' indicates a Micor Unified Chassis and the 'B' indicates 120V AC Power source. And the '1' listed as N/A means 25 kHz channel spacing for that band. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Mike, The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is described as: C = Compa Station 64 = 75 watt output in the UHF band RCB = Continuous Duty PA 3 = PL Tone-Coded Squelch 1 = N/A 0 = 1 TX and 1 RX 5 = DC Remote Control AT = Repeater Station You can get more information by looking at the numbers stamped on the various boards. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Benonis Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID? Good day, I just picked up what I believe is a Micor repeater at a Hamfest today for free. I'm told the repeater works, but I can't verify that. Here's what I know about it: Form Factor: Rack-Mounted Model Number: C64RCB-3105AY FCC Xmit Info: CC4224C FCC Rcvr Info: RC0080 Frequency: 464.050 MHz (I assume this is TX, but it doesn't say specifically on the label) Cards installed: 2x Four User Control Modules 1x Master Decoder 1x Squelch Gate 1x Station COntrol Module 1x Time Out Timer It has a Motorola power supply in the rack at the bottom. I didn't see any cans mounted in the rack, but I only found one N connector on the back (ublabeled, of course, but it looks like it comes out of a large silver box at the top of the rack with a heatsink on it. I can provide photos of the unit if needed. I'd like to convert this down to the 440 MHz amateur band if possible, for less than say, $1000 in new parts/repairs. Can anyone tell me, based on the information given, if this seems like a reasonable thing to do? If this is a boat anchor, I'm perfectly happy to get rid of it - but I figured, for free, what do I lose? Best regards, Mike Benonis Electrical Engineering '09 Department of Drama Sound Engineer The University of Virginia [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mjb8h%40virginia.edu mailto:mjb8h%40virginia.edu KI4RIX Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Mike, I think you need to know the following: The receiver is in the bottom of the unified chassis. It has a BNC connector, you should find that on the left hand side facing from the rear. The un-labled N (F) connector by the silver box is the transmitter output. Commercial repeaters are High In / Low Out, so should be 469.050 / 464.050. Likley there is also a PL or DPL element in both the Rx and Tx strips unless it is a CR backplane, then you will have the PL and/or DPL 4 user card and master decoder card. And, to answer your important questions, yes it should go down to the 440 ham band. Make sure it works on its present frequency and record how well, i.e., transmit power, recieve sense, etc... then follow the instructions on the repeater builder page for conversion. Good luck, thp Big Snip
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Good day, I just picked up what I believe is a Micor repeater at a Hamfest today for free. I'm told the repeater works, but I can't verify that. Here's what I know about it: Form Factor: Rack-Mounted Model Number: C64RCB-3105AY FCC Xmit Info: CC4224C FCC Rcvr Info: RC0080 Frequency: 464.050 MHz (I assume this is TX, but it doesn't say specifically on the label) Cards installed: 2x Four User Control Modules 1x Master Decoder 1x Squelch Gate 1x Station COntrol Module 1x Time Out Timer It has a Motorola power supply in the rack at the bottom. I didn't see any cans mounted in the rack, but I only found one N connector on the back (ublabeled, of course, but it looks like it comes out of a large silver box at the top of the rack with a heatsink on it. I can provide photos of the unit if needed. I'd like to convert this down to the 440 MHz amateur band if possible, for less than say, $1000 in new parts/repairs. Can anyone tell me, based on the information given, if this seems like a reasonable thing to do? If this is a boat anchor, I'm perfectly happy to get rid of it - but I figured, for free, what do I lose? Best regards, Mike Benonis Electrical Engineering '09 Department of Drama Sound Engineer The University of Virginia [EMAIL PROTECTED] KI4RIX
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Mike, The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is described as: C = Compa Station 64 = 75 watt output in the UHF band RCB = Continuous Duty PA 3 = PL Tone-Coded Squelch 1 = N/A 0 = 1 TX and 1 RX 5 = DC Remote Control AT = Repeater Station You can get more information by looking at the numbers stamped on the various boards. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Benonis Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID? Good day, I just picked up what I believe is a Micor repeater at a Hamfest today for free. I'm told the repeater works, but I can't verify that. Here's what I know about it: Form Factor: Rack-Mounted Model Number: C64RCB-3105AY FCC Xmit Info: CC4224C FCC Rcvr Info: RC0080 Frequency: 464.050 MHz (I assume this is TX, but it doesn't say specifically on the label) Cards installed: 2x Four User Control Modules 1x Master Decoder 1x Squelch Gate 1x Station COntrol Module 1x Time Out Timer It has a Motorola power supply in the rack at the bottom. I didn't see any cans mounted in the rack, but I only found one N connector on the back (ublabeled, of course, but it looks like it comes out of a large silver box at the top of the rack with a heatsink on it. I can provide photos of the unit if needed. I'd like to convert this down to the 440 MHz amateur band if possible, for less than say, $1000 in new parts/repairs. Can anyone tell me, based on the information given, if this seems like a reasonable thing to do? If this is a boat anchor, I'm perfectly happy to get rid of it - but I figured, for free, what do I lose? Best regards, Mike Benonis Electrical Engineering '09 Department of Drama Sound Engineer The University of Virginia [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mjb8h%40virginia.edu KI4RIX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Actually, the 'RC' indicates a Micor Unified Chassis and the 'B' indicates 120V AC Power source. And the '1' listed as N/A means 25 kHz channel spacing for that band. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Mike, The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is described as: C = Compa Station 64 = 75 watt output in the UHF band RCB = Continuous Duty PA 3 = PL Tone-Coded Squelch 1 = N/A 0 = 1 TX and 1 RX 5 = DC Remote Control AT = Repeater Station You can get more information by looking at the numbers stamped on the various boards. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Benonis Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID? Good day, I just picked up what I believe is a Micor repeater at a Hamfest today for free. I'm told the repeater works, but I can't verify that. Here's what I know about it: Form Factor: Rack-Mounted Model Number: C64RCB-3105AY FCC Xmit Info: CC4224C FCC Rcvr Info: RC0080 Frequency: 464.050 MHz (I assume this is TX, but it doesn't say specifically on the label) Cards installed: 2x Four User Control Modules 1x Master Decoder 1x Squelch Gate 1x Station COntrol Module 1x Time Out Timer It has a Motorola power supply in the rack at the bottom. I didn't see any cans mounted in the rack, but I only found one N connector on the back (ublabeled, of course, but it looks like it comes out of a large silver box at the top of the rack with a heatsink on it. I can provide photos of the unit if needed. I'd like to convert this down to the 440 MHz amateur band if possible, for less than say, $1000 in new parts/repairs. Can anyone tell me, based on the information given, if this seems like a reasonable thing to do? If this is a boat anchor, I'm perfectly happy to get rid of it - but I figured, for free, what do I lose? Best regards, Mike Benonis Electrical Engineering '09 Department of Drama Sound Engineer The University of Virginia [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mjb8h%40virginia.edu KI4RIX Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
Does anyone have a jpeg of where to add/delete a jumper to enable PL decode on a micor repeater? The PL card is already installed!!! Thanks, Brian nb9e
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
Don't you have to ground the mic hangup lead? On 11/6/07, Brian R. Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a jpeg of where to add/delete a jumper to enable PL decode on a micor repeater? The PL card is already installed!!! Thanks, Brian nb9e Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] micor repeater and tower
I have a micor complete system cabinet tuned on 443.400 with a pl of 107.2 I am looking to sell it. it has the Motorola cans in it. it has an astron 50 amp power supply and three 26 amp hour gel cell batteries for back up the repeater cabinet has the 12 volt power supply. it also has a arcom rc210 controller already wired in and connected. so it is ready to go just tune for your frequency and your on the air. i am please call me at 678-455-5093 if your interested in buying it i also have 7 and a half sections of rohn 25 complete with 200' guy cable, brackets to mount the guy cables to the tower, guy cable insulators, and turn buckles, a house bracket, and bolt kits for the tower the tower top section has the thrust bearing top i have an 8' mast pipe to go out of the top. again if your interested call me at 678-455-5093 these must sell buy the end of the month so give me a call see ya 73's N1IB David Schornak K2 03027 www.n1ib.com http://www.n1ib.com/ www.n1ib.com/blog/ www.n1ib.com/leather/ arf don't forget me Mis Ginger Einstein said: You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very,very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat.
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Squelch... confusing
Hey All, A while back I built a Micor Repeater. And had all sorts of fun with the squelch circuit. Why is there 2 squelches on that unit, 1 for audio and one for PTT control? Also Keyed A- and Keyed A+, where are those control lines generated from, which transistor is it that sinks current for keyed A- and which one is the source for keyed A+ or even which module does that? They way I built it was the simplest way possible (that I know of), I have a station control module, a squelch gate and a TOT (which I think I could have omitted but decided not to). The whole thing is puzzling to me, even though I did manage to get a nice sounding sensitive HAM repeater out of it (could never have done it without the manuals) Thanks Guys, Jesse
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
It has been suggested that before one adds a controller to the repeater it is best to have it repeat in it's original configuration. This unit was part of the VHF Provincial Mobile Telephone system and in its present form I can get it to repeat only after dialing the code that puts the transmitter on continuously. Eventually after being quiet for a time (no COS) the transmitter times out and you have to dial up to get it to operate again. Presently it has the following cards installed, left to right, Decoder filter STLN89HDT, TC Logic, Logic Module STLN932, Squelch Gate TLN4662A, Jackfield Module, Time Out Timer TRN8684A, Tel. Interface, Station control module TLN4635B, Line Driver Module. I am sure there is a reader to tell me that most of this stuff can be pulled out and a jumper changed here or there will get it going in a normal fashion. I hate to put a quick and dirty COS gate and relay on the Back Plane when a simple change to a plug in module will get it going. Receiver and Transmitter tuned up on the 144/145 band perfectly. Lots of good reading on this site, thanks for this opportunity, 73, Gordon.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Have done a Micor repeater using the CAT-200 controller. It's really quite easy to do. Pull all the cards except the Station Control and the F1 PL Decoder. A mid split PA will work if the output is 147.00 but I don't think a high split PA will last very long. Strongly suggest if yours is not a low split machine you contact Kevin Custer and get the receiver front end recoiled. Guarantee it will make at least .25 microvolts difference in sensitivity. Well worth the money. Have my diagram of the backplane of how and where COR, CTSS, Audio and power are picked off. Will .pdf and send it to you if you need it. There's a couple of other things you need to do to turn it into a repeater if its configured as a base unit but no problem. Hope this helps. Dave, W7GK Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been suggested that before one adds a controller to the repeater it is best to have it repeat in it's original configuration. This unit was part of the VHF Provincial Mobile Telephone system and in its present form I can get it to repeat only after dialing the code that puts the transmitter on continuously. Eventually after being quiet for a time (no COS) the transmitter times out and you have to dial up to get it to operate again. Presently it has the following cards installed, left to right, Decoder filter STLN89HDT, TC Logic, Logic Module STLN932, Squelch Gate TLN4662A, Jackfield Module, Time Out Timer TRN8684A, Tel. Interface, Station control module TLN4635B, Line Driver Module. I am sure there is a reader to tell me that most of this stuff can be pulled out and a jumper changed here or there will get it going in a normal fashion. I hate to put a quick and dirty COS gate and relay on the Back Plane when a simple change to a plug in module will get it going. Receiver and Transmitter tuned up on the 144/145 band perfectly. Lots of good reading on this site, thanks for this opportunity, 73, Gordon. - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Want to fire me off a copy as well. I like to see the different ways it is done. Maybe then I will pull the micor back out and see how I did it!!! Thanks! Corey N3FE - Original Message - From: Dave Hough To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Have done a Micor repeater using the CAT-200 controller. It's really quite easy to do. Pull all the cards except the Station Control and the F1 PL Decoder. A mid split PA will work if the output is 147.00 but I don't think a high split PA will last very long. Strongly suggest if yours is not a low split machine you contact Kevin Custer and get the receiver front end recoiled. Guarantee it will make at least .25 microvolts difference in sensitivity. Well worth the money. Have my diagram of the backplane of how and where COR, CTSS, Audio and power are picked off. Will .pdf and send it to you if you need it. There's a couple of other things you need to do to turn it into a repeater if its configured as a base unit but no problem. Hope this helps. Dave, W7GK Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been suggested that before one adds a controller to the repeater it is best to have it repeat in it's original configuration. This unit was part of the VHF Provincial Mobile Telephone system and in its present form I can get it to repeat only after dialing the code that puts the transmitter on continuously. Eventually after being quiet for a time (no COS) the transmitter times out and you have to dial up to get it to operate again. Presently it has the following cards installed, left to right, Decoder filter STLN89HDT, TC Logic, Logic Module STLN932, Squelch Gate TLN4662A, Jackfield Module, Time Out Timer TRN8684A, Tel. Interface, Station control module TLN4635B, Line Driver Module. I am sure there is a reader to tell me that most of this stuff can be pulled out and a jumper changed here or there will get it going in a normal fashion. I hate to put a quick and dirty COS gate and relay on the Back Plane when a simple change to a plug in module will get it going. Receiver and Transmitter tuned up on the 144/145 band perfectly. Lots of good reading on this site, thanks for this opportunity, 73, Gordon. -- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2241 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS tone through the receiver it is broken up. I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out a CTCSS tone. It does have a circuit that says RX audio out (White) has a about a 6 Db notch at 100hz. I take it this is what is causing the problem. Can someone point me in the right direction on this one. 73's Dan /WA1OOH
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
Daniel M LePage wrote: I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS tone through the receiver it is broken up. I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out a CTCSS tone. It does have a circuit that says RX audio out (White) has a about a 6 Db notch at 100hz. I take it this is what is causing the problem. Can someone point me in the right direction on this one. 73's Dan /WA1OOH What are you trying to do? Is the decoder not working? Are you trying to use the original Micor decoder or a Com-Spec TS-64? ? -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
has this repeater ever worked ? John - Original Message - From: Daniel M LePage To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64 I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS tone through the receiver it is broken up. I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out a CTCSS tone. It does have a circuit that says RX audio out (White) has a about a 6 Db notch at 100hz. I take it this is what is causing the problem. Can someone point me in the right direction on this one. 73's Dan /WA1OOH
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
At 10:07 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote: I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS tone through the receiver it is broken up. I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out a CTCSS tone. It does have a circuit that says RX audio out (White) has a about a 6 Db notch at 100hz. I take it this is what is causing the problem. Can someone point me in the right direction on this one. --- I bet you're using a deemphasized audio output. For the TS-64, you NEED to use discriminator (or other non-deemphasized audio source) in order to decode CTCSS. Exactly where are you taking receiver audio? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
At 10:07 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote: I bet you're using a deemphasized audio output. For the TS-64, you NEED to use discriminator (or other non-deemphasized audio source) in order to decode CTCSS. ---Let me rephrase that (de emphasized audio really has nothing to do with PL decoding). Are you using discriminator audio or something else? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
You need to feed your decoder with discriminator audio. The Micor de-emphasized audio has little below 300 Hz, Jack K6YC - Original Message - From: Daniel M LePage To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64 I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS tone through the receiver it is broken up. I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out a CTCSS tone. It does have a circuit that says RX audio out (White) has a about a 6 Db notch at 100hz. I take it this is what is causing the problem. Can someone point me in the right direction on this one. 73's Dan /WA1OOH
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
Dan, When a Micor station is equipped with a PL tone decoder, such as the TRN6002A, a high-pass filter is inserted into the audio chain which blocks any frequencies below about 300 Hz. Since the PL tone can cause problems if it is allowed to pass through the receiver audio chain, it is usually filtered out and regenerated later. If you need to detect an incoming PL tone with an outboard decoder, you will need to use flat (discriminator) audio prior to de-emphasis. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel M LePage Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:07 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64 I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the receiver. I can get a good 1 kHz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS tone through the receiver it is broken up. I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out a CTCSS tone. It does have a circuit that says RX audio out (White) has a about a 6 dB notch at 100Hz. I take it this is what is causing the problem. Can someone point me in the right direction on this one. 73's Dan /WA1OOH
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Parts needed
Our club needs MICOR components for the 138-158 VHF range. We currently have a DVP unified chassis and have modified it to work as a repeater using the associated SCM card. It works fine with the commercial crystals, exciter and receiver it came with but it is in the Highest portion of the VHF band. We need to be able to tune down to 145.170 transmit, 144.570 receive. So we need the exciter, receiver and the PA for that range. We have the cabinet, power supply and the other cards we need. As far as we can determine, we need the DVP receiver board TLD8272B, exciter TLD5802A and the 138-150 MHz PA. In lieu of that, we would be interested in a unified chassis and PA for the 138 - 150 VHF range or the next VHF frequency range up (150-175) in hopes we can retune it to work for us. Any info or advice would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks K4LDI Yahoo email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Parts needed
The only portions of what you have that WILL NOT move to 2M easily are the receiver and the PA. The exciter that you have is a 150.8-174Mhz one. Most of them will tune to 2M without any changes. If changes are needed, it's only to make the last two slugs tune correctly. (Change 2 caps) The receiver's local oscillator chain will work OK on 2M (it's identical in component values.) You *will* need to change the helical resonators and the mixer coil, to work on 2M. The PA you have is useless on 2M. you need to find a 150.8-162 Mhz PA and transplant it. The PA's in the mobiles are VERY similar and can be transplanted easily. Keep the high split PA though, it will work good for spare transistors. Although often not a necessity, you should drill and adjust the Exciter band-pass filter for the least amount of loss. Converting your station is your best bet. Trying to find genuine 2M parts is VERY difficult if not impossible. That is why there is a great amount of conversion information on the repeater-builder site dealing with moving from one band to another. If you need help or need someone to do the conversions for you, Please feel free to contact us: http://www.repeater-builder.com/custombuilt/index.html http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/customrepair.html Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: k4ldi_756 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Parts needed Our club needs MICOR components for the 138-158 VHF range. We currently have a DVP unified chassis and have modified it to work as a repeater using the associated SCM card. It works fine with the commercial crystals, exciter and receiver it came with but it is in the Highest portion of the VHF band. We need to be able to tune down to 145.170 transmit, 144.570 receive. So we need the exciter, receiver and the PA for that range. We have the cabinet, power supply and the other cards we need. As far as we can determine, we need the DVP receiver board TLD8272B, exciter TLD5802A and the 138-150 MHz PA. In lieu of that, we would be interested in a unified chassis and PA for the 138 - 150 VHF range or the next VHF frequency range up (150-175) in hopes we can retune it to work for us. Any info or advice would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks K4LDI Yahoo email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 11:04 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater amp question..
I am using a mitrek exciter at 1 watt to drive a Micor TLD1693D amp. I have tuned it up and it is working great in the 147.xxx range. I get approx 75 watts at 25 amps draw or so and 110 at 30 amps. I don't have a Micor base/repeater manual, so I am wondering what current the Motorola supplied power supply is good for? You're hitting it too hard. The VHF Micor PA is designed for about 400-700 mW input, give or take. One solution would be to put a 3dB pad in series. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater amp question..
Sean, The TPN1110 power supply that is normally found in the 100 watt Compa-Station is rated at 25 amperes. The fact that your PA is drawing 25 amps at 3/4 of its power rating indicates that it is not operating properly, since it is out of band. It would be a good idea to run it at a lower power setting and to check the output spectrum very closely for spurious emissions when it is driving your antenna. One of the fellows who performed all of the mods to get a TLD1693 PA to work properly in the 2m band did so because he burned up a few first. Most of the components that differ between the TLD1693 (150.8-162 MHz) and TLD1692 (132-150.8 MHz) amplifiers have to do with stability and efficient, spur-free operation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of maxjam_99 Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micro repeater amp question.. I am using a mitrek exciter at 1 watt to drive a Micor TLD1693D amp. I have tuned it up and it is working great in the 147.xxx range. I get approx 75 watts at 25 amps draw or so and 110 at 30 amps. I don't have a Micor base/repeater manual, so I am wondering what current the Motorola supplied power supply is good for? Thanks. Sean NØPBA Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Have a Motorola Micor vhf and uhf transmitter and vhf and uhf reciever. Both are linked togerher in the same cabinet. Both key but are not showing any power out to the antenna. Got the repeater the other day and the fellow said he had no problems with it. It has been sitting for over a year. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
I have a quick question, which may be a simple answer... I am converting a Micor Base-R/T to 6m repeater. The question pertains to modifying the exciter and receiver.. I have located an exciter and receiver in a machine that was tuned (with channel elements included) to 49MHz.. is this the correct split for a 6m machine so that no modification to exciter or receiver are required? I would really rather skip the mod process if this is the correct split. TIA, mike Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
Don't count on it. You may still need to change a few caps. You'll know if you get a stage that won't peak. And by that, I mean you need to get to the peak and go past it, otherwise you are not really at the peak. Chuck WB2EDV Mike Perryman wrote: I have a quick question, which may be a simple answer... I am converting a Micor Base-R/T to 6m repeater. The question pertains to modifying the exciter and receiver.. I have located an exciter and receiver in a machine that was tuned (with channel elements included) to 49MHz.. is this the correct split for a 6m machine so that no modification to exciter or receiver are required? I would really rather skip the mod process if this is the correct split. TIA, mike Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
I agree with Chuck, and here is a GREAT source of 6M Micor information: http://www.sasquatchnet.org/kb6mip/tech.html Kevin Chuck Kelsey wrote: Don't count on it. You may still need to change a few caps. You'll know if you get a stage that won't peak. And by that, I mean you need to get to the peak and go past it, otherwise you are not really at the peak. Chuck WB2EDV Mike Perryman wrote: I have a quick question, which may be a simple answer... I am converting a Micor Base-R/T to 6m repeater. The question pertains to modifying the exciter and receiver.. I have located an exciter and receiver in a machine that was tuned (with channel elements included) to 49MHz.. is this the correct split for a 6m machine so that no modification to exciter or receiver are required? I would really rather skip the mod process if this is the correct split. TIA, mike Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
Mike Perryman wrote: Yep.. I have that document... but I am having one hell of a time locating the dipped micas of correct values... Digikey about 30% good, all common values... and Newark is the same... the oddball values are near impossible to locate.. ;-( mike Have you tried Motorola directly? Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
Have you tried Motorola directly? Kevin Kevin brings up a Great point , Sometimes We assume that Motorola is Extremely High for Parts, Manuals Etc, and found Cheaper on E-Pay, if you can even find them, But pick up the phone and Call, I have actually found them very receptive and helpful and Parts, manual at a reasonable price, New and Fast Shipping. I am sure some items will be high. Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
Thanks Jeff.. didn't think about RFP. I found all but three of the values there.. 18 pf 80 pf 140 pf Thanks again.. mike At 02:55 PM 11/14/2005 -0500, you wrote: I've used NP0 ceramics in a few instances where I couldn't find exact replacement silver-micas for some conversions (the Micor 6m exciter comes to mind). I've had no ill effects thus far. RF Parts has a pretty good selection of dipped silver micas - try them too www.rfparts.com/caps2.html --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question Yep.. I have that document... but I am having one hell of a time locating the dipped micas of correct values... Digikey about 30% good, all common values... and Newark is the same... the oddball values are near impossible to locate.. ;-( mike At 02:10 PM 11/14/2005 -0500, you wrote: I agree with Chuck, and here is a GREAT source of 6M Micor information: http://www.sasquatchnet.org/kb6mip/tech.html Kevin Chuck Kelsey wrote: Don't count on it. You may still need to change a few caps. You'll know if you get a stage that won't peak. And by that, I mean you need to get to the peak and go past it, otherwise you are not really at the peak. Chuck WB2EDV Mike Perryman wrote: I have a quick question, which may be a simple answer... I am converting a Micor Base-R/T to 6m repeater. The question pertains to modifying the exciter and receiver.. I have located an exciter and receiver in a machine that was tuned (with channel elements included) to 49MHz.. is this the correct split for a 6m machine so that no modification to exciter or receiver are required? I would really rather skip the mod process if this is the correct split. TIA, mike Yahoo! Groups Links - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. Neil McKie wrote: That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: It is a TPN1110B supply. Neil McKie wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
did a check of the one I have (new) it is a TPN-1105A that has the battery hook up for a Micro repeater 75 watt model John - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. Neil McKie wrote: That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: It is a TPN1110B supply. Neil McKie wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
Good. Connect your 12 volt battery to the large terminals on the back through a fuse. Be certain to carefully adjust the voltage out out of the power supply to keep from boiling away the battery acid. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Maire-Radios wrote: did a check of the one I have (new) it is a TPN-1105A that has the battery hook up for a Micro repeater 75 watt model John - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. Neil McKie wrote: That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: It is a TPN1110B supply. Neil McKie wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I guess that you could use a Xantrex C-35 charge controller connected to supply out to charge (I use one on my solar setup) for smart charging... then could use a second C-35 as a load controller (they can be configured for either function)... and build up some sort of mains sensing relay or something. I have even seen folks use an Astron supply with a constant load across the output to stabilize the current draw in conjunction with a C-35. Then run the machine on the batteries I have 12 Dynasty 110ah gel cells in my solar bank, and they weren't cheap, so I went the extra mile to protect them Just a thought.. be creative!! mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply I suppose it has been done ... not by me though. I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms - one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is. You might want to search the swapmeets for the Micor TPN1105A or TPN1106A Power Supply as it's designed for what you want. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. Neil McKie wrote: That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: It is a TPN1110B supply. Neil McKie wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I think it is a TPN1105A, I have a spare somewhere... I think... mike At 05:05 PM 04/25/2005 -0700, you wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 . volts to for battery backup. -- Yahoo! Groups Links - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
If it is a TPN1105A, then the battery back-up is built in. Connect your battery to the large terminal block on the back through a 30 ampere fuse. Be careful to set the output voltage of the power supply so you don't boil the battery. I have one of those power supplies in service here for a pair of Micor Repeaters. Neil - WA6KLA Mike Perryman wrote: I think it is a TPN1105A, I have a spare somewhere... I think... mike At 05:05 PM 04/25/2005 -0700, you wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 . volts to for battery backup. -- --- Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
It is a TPN1110B supply. Neil McKie wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 . volts to for battery backup. -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a way to tap into the circuit and make it happen. Neil McKie wrote: That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use. Neil - WA6KLA John Place wrote: It is a TPN1110B supply. Neil McKie wrote: Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12. volts to for battery backup. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 volts to for battery backup. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
there is a power supply that Motorola made for the Micor that will charge the battery (12V) and them run the repeater when needed. The last I knew a new one from Motorola was about $400. as I got one for a job and still in stock. Also they may be got at a ham fest as I got a Micor (working) with the power supply for $600.00 at one time. If you can't find one let me know and I will see how many I have. John - Original Message - From: John Place [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 volts to for battery backup. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
Which Micor Power Supply? Neil John Place wrote: Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12 volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12 . volts to for battery backup. -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted
Lets put another one to rest. WRITE IT IN STONE! the Micor, at least those with the Transmitter FCC Identifier of CC4224C are Part 95 type accepted. This is the transmitter on my Micor Community Repeater. Here is my journey to this data. I had sent a letter to the FCC Field office back in Dec. requesting to know if the Micor Community Repeater I have on the air was certificated for use in the GMRS as it states to do in the GMRS rules. I also checked with big M and they no longer maintain or offer data on non current radios. I waited a few months for word from the FCC and after I didn't receive a reply, I contacted R.H. to see if he could help. He did some hunting came up empty and he then referred me to someone and so on and finally I ended up with an EE who assisted me. Well as most of us know the older equipment prior to late 1981 are not contained in the OET database. The FCC does not maintain publicly available records of any equipment before this point so if it doesn't have the current style ID (Grantee Code/Product code) you will be hard pressed to find the authorization data. The EE had a copy of the FCC Radio Equipment List dated January 1, 1983, this is where the proof is. On page 302 in black and white the transmitter CC4224C is authorized for rules part 21, 90 95. If any one has one of these lists keep it! I will scan the info later tonight and post it on my website. There are other Motorola transmitters listed on that page that are Part 95 also that people might be interested in. DougD WPSI726 KC2KGY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] micor repeater
i have several extra motorola micor power supplys if you have not located one yet The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] micor repeater
Which parts? Neil racin3dude2001 wrote: looking for repeater parts for a uhf micor.power supply,manual,etc.. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] micor repeater
looking for repeater parts for a uhf micor.power supply,manual,etc.. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
