Re: [talk-ph] request for testing 10m contour for garmin (was Re: Groundtruth.)

2010-07-30 Thread Rally de Leon
Groundtruth (contour) runs on my mapsource. I initially loaded 6 tiles (from east to west -- Quezon sierra madre, Rizal to Batangas, NCR to Bataan) on my 76CSx, together with the latest osmph_garmin. They show on top of each other (transparent). Didn't crash on my garmin. However, with the

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread maning sambale
A reminder to add useful comments in your changesets. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:18 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments To: OSM t...@openstreetmap.org Dear all,   we've had the

[OSM-talk-be] WikiProject Belgium

2010-07-30 Thread Ivo De Broeck
Hi, I am a newbie at OSM. I saw the Wikiproject Belgium and the pages were IMHO a little outdated (most 2008) and i found the necessary information at Wikiproject Netherlands. That s the reason i put a line help newbie on the Wikiproject Belgium, i hope it will be useful. It may be a good

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:42:50AM +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote: The renderer does not require any change, the only changes required are moving the amenity=police icon to be the emergency=police_station icon (which is a 30 second job) and creating an appropriate emergency parent icon (and there's

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 16:51, Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net wrote: Provided the program is maintained. People may use programs not maintained any more or they may be not able to upgrade or they wouldn't know they need to upgrade. Things will just stop working for them, without a notice. Is this

[OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Ed Avis
When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser and the file isn't uploaded. I've got a backlog of several long GPX traces to upload - is there some other way to do it? -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:06:14 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 July 2010 16:51, Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net wrote: Provided the program is maintained. People may use programs not maintained any more or they may be not able to upgrade or they wouldn't know they

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Tom Hughes
On 30/07/10 08:11, Ed Avis wrote: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser and the file isn't uploaded. I've got a backlog of several long GPX traces to upload - is there some other way to do it? I just uploaded a 9.8Mb trace

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread john whelan
Firefox is better than IE for uploading and downloading files especially larger ones. Cheerio John On 30 July 2010 03:11, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser and the file isn't uploaded.  

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:41 30/07/2010, Tom Hughes wrote: On 30/07/10 08:11, Ed Avis wrote: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser and the file isn't uploaded. I've got a backlog of several long GPX traces to upload - is there some other way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat?

2010-07-30 Thread Roman Neumüller
yeah, I'm having the same issues (Read timed out) Roman From: Tomas Straupis tomasstrau...@gmail.com Subject: [OSM-talk] Landsat? Hello Is anybody else experiencing landsat problems in JOSM? For about three days now landsat images are not available to JOSM. http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Ed Avis
Tom Hughes tom at compton.nu writes: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser and the file isn't uploaded. I just uploaded a 9.8Mb trace with no problems at all, so if you're having a problem with 100Kb then I'd be inclined to

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Ed Avis
Michael Collinson mike at ayeltd.biz writes: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser As a possible short-term fix, try uploading an individual file in .zip format. This used to work and I assume is still supported. Thanks, that

Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat?

2010-07-30 Thread Tomas Straupis
2010-07-30 Roman Neumüller: yeah, I'm having the same issues (Read timed out) Just got information that landsat images are loaded on windows and are NOT loaded on linux... So apparently this is NOT a data source problem. -- Tomas Straupis ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Tom Hughes
On 30/07/10 10:00, Ed Avis wrote: Thanks, that did the trick. The file has now uploaded as http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ed%20Avis/traces/776516. However, in the list of my GPX traces http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ed%20Avis/traces it still shows as 'PENDING'. Perhaps it's just slow

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Tom Hughes
On 30/07/10 09:40, Ed Avis wrote: Which browser do you use? (I use Firefox 3.7 on Windows, with no http proxy server configured.) Firefox 3.6.7 on linux Just now I succeeded in uploading a 47 kilobyte trace but got a timeout uploading a 325 kilobyte one. The error reported by Firefox is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Mike N.
I don't understand this argument. Doesn't every tag change anywhere break every editor/renderer/search/data user whether or not you think it is correct? John has just as much right to go change all the amenity= tags to something more specific as you do to keep them the same. Data consumers

[OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Dear all, we've had the changeset feature for quite a while now and I believe it is very helpful in a number of ways. I can select an area and see the edit history for it (soon, hopefully, even ignoring those world-spanning changesets). I can click on a username and see what that user

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday, July 30, 2010 04:48:03 pm Frederik Ramm wrote: Don't be fooled; the small changeset comment that you enter when uploading stuff will be read by many people. Done well, changeset comments are tremendously helpful. helpful reminder - my problem is that I put an entry like 'fine

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 21:15, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: Every Smartphone OSM data consumer I've looked at has been unusable because of tagging interpretation. Compared to OSM, data consumers seem to be very inflexible and unaware of any but the most rigid tag schemes that haven't changed in

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 21:27, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Friday, July 30, 2010 04:48:03 pm Frederik Ramm wrote: Don't be fooled; the small changeset comment that you enter when uploading stuff will be read by many people. Done well, changeset comments are tremendously helpful.

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The other group consists of well-meaning mappers who are valuable members of our community but who perceive the need to enter a changeset comment as a kind of nagging, nannying, and who might be tempted to enter a useless

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Brian Quinion
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Better yet - just don't change it.  This sort of change just isn't worth the pain and hundreds of developer hours that could be better spent on moving the project forward.  Yes - this sort of change might make the tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:00 30/07/2010, Ed Avis wrote: Michael Collinson mike at ayeltd.biz writes: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser As a possible short-term fix, try uploading an individual file in .zip format. This used to work and I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Mike N.
I thought most smart phone apps would mostly view map tiles, either OSM or Cloudmade? There are several apps now for the iPhone which also search POIs. Some examples: -JOSM allows tagging whether banks include an ATM - I select this when the ATM is attached to the building or inside

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
I have to admit that I am bad about not bothering to enter a comment, particularly if all I have been doing is fixing the alignment of streets to better conform to the Yahoo aerial view. I shall try to do better in the future. Also, I sometimes mark POIs with a cell phone app, BigTinCan

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Hillsman, Edward
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:52:47 +1000 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I also question this value you talk about. I don't think I've ever looked at another member's changeset. If the user interfaces made that a more common occurrence, I'd probably put more effort into changeset comments, but

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread maning sambale
So what really is a good changeset comment? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: So what really is a good changeset comment? I think we recognize bad change set comments more easily than good ones. I'm not proud of the ones I missed here. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/rw__/edits But

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Peter Körner
Am 30.07.2010 13:52, schrieb Steve Bennett: (Corollary: when another user tells me specifically that they would find my changesets easier to navigate if I commented them properly, I would re-evaluate. But afaik, no one ever looks at my work, so it seems a bit pointless.) I've subscribed to all

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 30 July 2010 14:34, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 30.07.2010 13:52, schrieb Steve Bennett: (Corollary: when another user tells me specifically that they would find my changesets easier to navigate if I commented them properly, I would re-evaluate. But afaik, no one ever

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView

2010-07-30 Thread John Mitchell
Would it make sense for the OSV and OTV projects to be combined so that you have one place for images? John On 7/30/10, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I would at least talk to John (the openstreetview admin). OSV seems to have active users (I just moderated over 100 images) but there

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ed, Hillsman, Edward wrote: I used to think this way, but for the past couple of months I've been mapping to support three separate goals: a research project that involves importing bus stops, inventorying shops and points of interest for an area bicycle map, and preparing for a walk-trip

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ross Scanlon
Well done. Pretty much none of the others do. I look forward to your patches :) Heres the patch for the default.style for osm2pgsql node,way emergency text nocache,polygon Wasn't worth a diff patch as it's only one line. (30 seconds) Mapnik for instance has manual rules -

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ross Scanlon wrote: Filter[emergency] = 'police_station'/Filter What does a police station have to do with emergencies? Are you going to tag the UN headquarters next because they run international disaster relief? Bye Frederik ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 30 July 2010 13:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we just need better tools to summerise changes made, rather than trying to get something meaningful by way of the comment field... A commit message is not only a summary of what is being changed but also why it's being

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Kevin Peat
Where the same thing is being tagged in different ways then by all means spend your energy trying to unify them as that ulitmately benefits all data consumers and reduces scope for mapper confusion. In the case of hospital or fire_station though I don't see the point of these changes. In these

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Just to drag things back on topic, so far most claims seem to be vague and generalised, however the original proposal about shifting police and fire into an emergency category doesn't seem to have many/any of the draw

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 30 July 2010 16:26, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Total time 6 minutes Hundreds of hours, yeah right. The program I've been talking about uses osm2pgsql and mapnik so I'm well aware of them. If your smart you could probably add the emergency data without having to totally

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Lennard
Maybe in the long run, power editors like JOSM will allow you to keep mutliple changesets open at the same time, switching between them by the click of a button, or even allowing you so easily sort and filter edits (all those with bus stations, in changeset 1, all others, in changeset 2).

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means that every one doing an app needs to do some significant work to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 30 July 2010 17:14, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means that

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Unfortunately OWL does not show the Changeset comment in the RSS items, so I'll always have to click onto the web link, but I always read what my co-mappers are writing. Actually, it is supposed to. There is some bug

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 30 July 2010 18:07, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Maybe in the long run, power editors like JOSM will allow you to keep mutliple changesets open at the same time, switching between them by the click of a button, or even allowing you so easily sort and filter edits (all those with bus

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: How is the OpenStreetMap community to distinguish these edits from vandalism, and you from a vandal? Considering I didn't make any of the changes you are accusing me of I fail to see the problem. You did...

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
John, John Smith wrote: why can't there be better tools to summarise or model changes One of my points in the other discussion what that writing proper changeset comments also means showing respect to the rest of the community. Showing respect, interacting with humans, is something that no

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 03:43, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Here's an example of a change you claim you haven't made: No, I claimed to have made those, as I pointed out to you in a previous reply, what exactly was so important about these locations that no one could be bothered to spend 2

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Chris Hill
John Smith wrote: On 31 July 2010 02:05, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means that What change, I have made a suggestion and was

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 03:34, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that you have indeed made lots of changes in the database before discussing on the list: e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/771625043/history Hmmm thought I fixed that by reverting that changeset... I'll fix it now

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:25 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 31 July 2010 02:05, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 02:05, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means that What change, I have made a suggestion and was after comments, so far some

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 02:03, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: John Smith, your method stinks. What stinks specifically, you even seem to agree in your next paragraph. You seem to believe that your preferred tag of emergency=fire_station, etc is better. Rather than adding your preferred tags

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 03:48, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: One of my points in the other discussion what that writing proper changeset comments also means showing respect to the rest of the community. Showing respect, interacting with humans, is something that no piece of software can do

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Peter Körner
Am 30.07.2010 18:51, schrieb Toby Murray: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Unfortunately OWL does not show the Changeset comment in the RSS items, so I'll always have to click onto the web link, but I always read what my co-mappers are writing.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2010 02:03, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: John Smith, your method stinks. What stinks specifically, you even seem to agree in your next paragraph. You seem to believe that your preferred tag of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 04:17, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: You are contradicting yourself, John Smith. You replaced amenity=ambulance_station with your emergency=ambulance_station. This is unnecessary and inappropriate without wide community support. Since no one bothered to document this

[OSM-talk] Fwd: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread S.Higashi
Sorry the following message was sent personally. -- Forwarded message -- From: S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:00:38 +0900 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=* To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com I think Map Features page should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 05:03, S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: You can use any tags you like, but not on this page. I respectfully disagree, as do many others, the voting method currently employed is deeply flawed. ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Atlanta. T-minus two weeks and counting

2010-07-30 Thread Richard Weait
In two weeks plus or minus a few hours, OSM-ers from around the world will be meeting in Atlanta for the first State of the Map - US. If the International SotM is any guide, the fun will start the night before, in the hotel bars, lounges and local pubs. Because that is where the unstructured

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Liz
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Ross Scanlon wrote: Filter[emergency] = 'police_station'/Filter What does a police station have to do with emergencies? Are you going to tag the UN headquarters next because they run international disaster relief? Bye Frederik Well

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Ed Avis
Tom Hughes tom at compton.nu writes: Just now I succeeded in uploading a 47 kilobyte trace but got a timeout uploading a 325 kilobyte one. The error reported by Firefox is 'The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.' Are you on a very slow internet connection or

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:05:19 +0100 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 July 2010 16:26, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Total time 6 minutes Hundreds of hours, yeah right. The program I've been talking about uses osm2pgsql and mapnik so I'm well aware of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Ross Scanlon wrote: Then show why and where they don't make sense rather than carrying on about possible broken apps. Easy: amenity=hospital emergency=yes when replaced with emergency=hospital results in lost data. Jon ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
+100! I very much agree with the emphasis on the community aspect of a nice (doesn't have to be great) changeset comment. Code versioning systems support revision comments and good comments help people who maintain the software understand ones contributions. Even Wikipedia highly values edit

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread James Livingston
On 30/07/2010, at 9:52 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: For me, very frequently, the changeset just represents a random bunch of edits I happened to be doing at one time, with not much cohesion. There are different suburbs all in the same changeset as I flitted about. My editing falls into two

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread Liz
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Dear all, we've had the changeset feature for quite a while now and I believe it is very helpful in a number of ways. I thought I'd have a look at the documentation provided for the documentation called changeset comment The documentation I

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If You have indicated to OSMF that you waive any rights in Your Contents (dedication to the 'public domain'), OSMF will additionally use or sub-license Your Contents under: the Public Domain Dedication License; or

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 16:16, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If You have indicated to OSMF that you waive any rights in Your Contents (dedication to the 'public domain'), OSMF will additionally use or

[talk-au] Bundaberg Nearmap imagery now online

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Queensland ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

2010-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: Well it appears as though people have been tagging them as landuse=recreation_ground (as per Melbourne Showgrounds) which seems the closest approximation to what it is. landuse=recreation_ground

Re: [talk-au] What makes a good change set comment?

2010-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What goes in to a good change set comment?  Should it include the nature of your edits, the sources used, edit theme, and location? What else? You might want to back up a bit and ask what purpose do changesets serve? For

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

2010-07-30 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
Not sure I like that option Steve as it implies that the recreation_ground is only a showground. I prefer the landuse=showground option and then, if there is an oval that is used for recreation within the showground you tag that accordingly ie leisure=pitch, sport=*. In the end it comes down to

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 30 July 2010 07:19, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: That's going to be a very messy area to deal with, because it requires people sourcing or attributing perfectly all the time. On a different topic of sourcing, as I mentionned some time ago, Spot Images will be releasing

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

2010-07-30 Thread Liz
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: Well unless recreation includes purchasing showbags and eating fairy floss :) What about the rides? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 19:40, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On a different topic of sourcing, as I mentionned some time ago, Spot Images will be releasing images of France in the near future for a period of 6 months. The attribution is very important to them and that's why someone is

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 30 July 2010 11:13, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Not entirely what I meant, if you checked the other thread on how to add source=* tags it's actually complicated when you update data, but only update a small section so on and so forth. Yup, hence the reason I mentioned it

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 20:24, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, hence the reason I mentioned it was about a different topic of sourcing, and I couldn't find the previous thread. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2010-July/006868.html

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

2010-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I like that option Steve as it implies that the recreation_ground is only a showground. I prefer the landuse=showground option and then, if there is an oval that is used for recreation within the

Re: [talk-au] Bundaberg Nearmap imagery now online

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
Mackay imagery seems to be online now as well: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Queensland ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Toowoomba Nearmap imagery now online

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
Toowoomba imagery is now online as well... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

2010-07-30 Thread Stephen Hope
On 30 July 2010 22:27, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Meh. I look at the definition of landuse=recreation_ground and I think it could include almost anything. Maybe you're right. There are so few showgrounds it won't matter much either way. Steve Actually there are a lot of

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread James Livingston
On 30/07/2010, at 3:54 PM, John Smith wrote: I've cc'd Grant on this email, he posted to the #osm-au IRC channel about some proposed changes to the CTs, which I was hoping would have come up in another thread by now: LWG is considering: 3. OSMF agrees to use or sub-license Your Contents

Re: [Talk-br] Atividades Siderópolis (SC)

2010-07-30 Thread Samuel Vale
On Sex, 2010-07-30 at 17:34 +0200, vitor wrote: Olá Pessoal, Ontem conversei com o Guilherme, novo colaborador que se apresentou na esta semana, e ele precisa de ajuda com algumas coisas: 1) Reverter o changeset #5338483, que contém dados do tracksource e não podem ser utilizados por

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?iso-8859-1?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-30 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:44:33 schrieb steffterra: Nunja. da gehts ja um die aktuell etablierten Autobahnspuren, die bei jeder baulichen Trennung ja auch so gezeichnet werden sollten. Oder habe ich etwas übersehen? inklusive Fahrspurtagging. Da Konzept sollte wohl auch fuer andere

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways b ei =?utf-8?q?_=3D=3Futf-8=3Fq=3F=5Fforward/b ackward=3F=3D?=)

2010-07-30 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:37:00 schrieb Ulf Lamping: Am 29.07.2010 23:16, schrieb Guenther Meyer: Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010, 20:12:50 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: die Richtung dreht auch der Editor selbst automatisch alle Nas lang (JOSM warnt dabei), sobald man zwei ways zusammenfügt.

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?iso-8859-1?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-30 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:49:45 schrieb steffterra: Am 29.07.2010 um 23:34 schrieb Guenther Meyer: Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:15:07 schrieb steffterra: Er kann es aber leichter entscheiden, wenn er davon ausgehen kann, dass die Richtigkeit der Tags nicht von einem potentiell falsch

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?iso-8859-1?q?_=3D=3Futf-8=3Fq=3F =5Fforward/backward=3F=3D?=)

2010-07-30 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:47:04 schrieb steffterra: Es war aber sicher der Fall gemeint, dass einer der beiden tags falsch war, da man den node von woanders hergezogen hat und dann bei der Vereinigung entwscheiden muss, was jetzt stimmt. aber völlig irrelevant. denn das problem hat man

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-30 Thread Andreas Labres
On 30.07.10 07:26, Pascal Neis wrote: Vielen Gemeinden sind in meiner Umgebung lediglich als Node mit name, place und weiteren Tags gemappt. Dabei verwenden sie immer das place=village Tag. Gibt es für die Abgrenzung innerhalb der Place-Nodes nicht für die Gemeinde eine andere Abstufung? Ich

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-30 Thread bundesrainer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.07.2010 07:26, schrieb Pascal Neis: Vielen Gemeinden sind in meiner Umgebung lediglich als Node mit name, place und weiteren Tags gemappt. Dabei verwenden sie immer das place=village Tag. Gibt es für die Abgrenzung innerhalb der Place-Nodes

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-30 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi, bundesrainer schrieb: Am 30.07.2010 07:26, schrieb Pascal Neis: Vielen Gemeinden sind in meiner Umgebung lediglich als Node mit name, place und weiteren Tags gemappt. Dabei verwenden sie immer das place=village Tag. Gibt es für die Abgrenzung innerhalb der Place-Nodes nicht für die

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-30 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo Pascal. Am Freitag 30 Juli 2010, 08:36:03 schrieb bundesrainer: Ich find's irgendwie nicht so richtig gut ... M.E. wäre ein expliziteres angeben eines Gemeindenames schon besser! Ist der Name einer Gemeinde nicht immer explizit? Ich verstehe nicht, was du hier meinst. Du meinst

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-30 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi, Bernd Wurst schrieb: Am Freitag 30 Juli 2010, 08:36:03 schrieb bundesrainer: Ich find's irgendwie nicht so richtig gut ... M.E. wäre ein expliziteres angeben eines Gemeindenames schon besser! Ist der Name einer Gemeinde nicht immer explizit? Ich verstehe nicht, was du hier meinst. Du

Re: [Talk-de] phpMyGPX v0.6.1 veröffentlicht

2010-07-30 Thread Peter Körner
Am 29.07.2010 20:40, schrieb Sebastian Klemm: P.S.: Sind derartige Mitteilungen hier überhaupt erwünscht oder wird das eher als Spam angesehen? Es handelt sich ja nicht direkt um ein OSM-Tool, auch wenn die Motivation zur Entstehung ausschließlich durchs Mappen zustande kam... Ich finde diese

Re: [Talk-de] tracktype an Nicht-tracks

2010-07-30 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:36:26PM +0200, Heiko Jacobs wrote: Da im Forum gerade die Frage tracktype-Verwendung an highway=path Eine interessante Statistik. Ich bin kürzlich auch über einige highway=path gestolpert. Da ich das Wiki so verstanden habe, daß tracktype sich wirklich nur auf tracks

[Talk-de] OpenTrailView

2010-07-30 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! hat sich einer von Euch schon mit OpenTrailView [1] beschäftigt. Wie sieht es aus mit dem unkenntlich machen von Gesichtern und Autokennzeichen ?? Gruß Jan :-) [1] http://www.free-map.org.uk/otv/ ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM V 3376 - josm-latest

2010-07-30 Thread Walter Nordmann
hi, obwohl das nicht meine baustelle ist: ich hab im log gesehen, dass die entwickler in der letzten tagen irgenwas mit power/power line im josm-latest gemacht haben. eventuell ist das problem jetzt weg? kann sich ja mal jemand ansehen, der näher dran ist. mfg walter - if it's there

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM V 3376 - josm-latest

2010-07-30 Thread André Joost
Am 30.07.10 10:30, schrieb Walter Nordmann: hi, obwohl das nicht meine baustelle ist: ich hab im log gesehen, dass die entwickler in der letzten tagen irgenwas mit power/power line im josm-latest gemacht haben. eventuell ist das problem jetzt weg? Yep: type=line steht unübersetzt als line

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-30 Thread bundesrainer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.07.2010 09:05, schrieb Bernd Wurst: Du meinst bestimmt so Fälle in denen der Name der Gemeinde nicht dem Namen des Haupt-Orts bzw. nicht einmal dem Namen irgend eines Ortes entspricht (Zusammenschluss-Gemeinde). Achso. Da stand ich etwas

Re: [Talk-de] phpMyGPX v0.6.1 veröffentlicht

2010-07-30 Thread Thomas Ba
Moin, etwas was mich noch ein klein bisschen stört, du verwendest ja die Funktion set_time_limit um das Zeit Limit zu setzen. Bei größeren GPX Dateien kann es schnell passieren, das die angegebene Zeit nicht mehr ausreicht. Bei meinem Hoster kann man das Limit mir set_time_limit(0) aufheben. Es

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit Seen und Inseln

2010-07-30 Thread Christoph Matthei
On 2010-07-30 03:21 Willi wrote: On Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010 17:05 schrieb Christoph Matthei christ...@matthei.org: Grundsätzlich gebe ich Dir recht; man sollte auf keinen Fall Multipolygone als Ersatz für Flächen ansehen. Ist es nicht so, dass Multipolygone die Flächendarstellung in

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