The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 78 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - WANTED: STOCK TV TUNER Re: WANTED: STOCK TV TUNER Re: WANTED: Stock TV Tuner Brake discs to fit under 15" wheels? Re: Brake discs to fit under 15" wheels? distilled water or not? Re: distilled water or not? Re: distilled water or not? Re: Is this a record? Re: Is this a record? MOVING SALE
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:59:02 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David wrote: >I am planning on using cross-drilled (probably Zimmerman) rotors when I replace brakes on my 96ti sport. Either direct replacement, or if I get ambitious 325 fronts (with the proper calipers). I am not sure of the benefit of the drilling in cooling, but I am sure they help when driving in the rain. I have several times been driving in rain and had to wait for the brakes to clear water to get them to working. I am talking several car lengths worth at speed, and as far as I am concerned, any reduction is a positive one. ____________ A reduction of several car lengths is a HUGE positive improvement. But I have to admit, I'm a wee bit skeptical. Unless you're constantly driving through huge puddles of standing water that are six+ inches deep, I don't see how rain would cause a reduction in braking distance (by affecting the calipers as opposed, of course, to affecting tire grip) on any modern disc-braked car (as opposed to drums). Are you saying that the water gets onto the rotor and pads, and this prevents complete braking? And that drilling helps to evacuate that water? Have you compared drilled rotors v. solid rotors on the same car, in the rain, to arrive at your conclusion? If not, how did you reach your conclusion? I'm really curious, so whatever further info you can provide would be appreciated. thx, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 2004 09:11:37 +0200 From: Werner Gillmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > David wrote: > > >I am planning on using cross-drilled (probably Zimmerman) rotors when I > replace brakes on my 96ti sport. Either direct replacement, or if I get > ambitious 325 fronts (with the proper calipers). I am not sure of the > benefit of the drilling in cooling, but I am sure they help when driving in > the rain. I have several times been driving in rain and had to wait for the > brakes to clear water to get them to working. I am talking several car > lengths worth at speed, and as far as I am concerned, any reduction is a > positive one. > ____________ You had to wait for your brakes to work during rain, jeez what massive rain storms do you have over there? It's summer here now, and raining almost every 2nd night and I had never had any trouble with my brakes, even went through a couple of big puddles and still no problems. Are you sure there is not maybe something else wrong with your brakes? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:15:14 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nope, other than rain they give no problems and are very strong. Richmond, VA area can have very heavy rains and water control is poor on the roads. I was really suprised the first time it happened. They will clear faster if you really jam on them, but then they go from nothing to all suddenly and it is a bit scary. I prefer modultion. david -----Original Message----- From: Werner Gillmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 11, 2004 2:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > David wrote: > > >I am planning on using cross-drilled (probably Zimmerman) rotors when I > replace brakes on my 96ti sport. Either direct replacement, or if I get > ambitious 325 fronts (with the proper calipers). I am not sure of the > benefit of the drilling in cooling, but I am sure they help when driving in > the rain. I have several times been driving in rain and had to wait for the > brakes to clear water to get them to working. I am talking several car > lengths worth at speed, and as far as I am concerned, any reduction is a > positive one. > ____________ You had to wait for your brakes to work during rain, jeez what massive rain storms do you have over there? It's summer here now, and raining almost every 2nd night and I had never had any trouble with my brakes, even went through a couple of big puddles and still no problems. Are you sure there is not maybe something else wrong with your brakes? __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:33:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have not tried them on this car, but past experience and checking with some old racing buddies tells me that cross-drilled rotors clear water much faster than plain ones. I am assuming that slotted should do better too, but I am unsure. The same effect that out-gassing pads have of floating the pads, drilling helps both issues. David -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 10, 2004 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Cross drilled? (was: Time for F rotors and pads - Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] David wrote: >I am planning on using cross-drilled (probably Zimmerman) rotors when I replace brakes on my 96ti sport. Either direct replacement, or if I get ambitious 325 fronts (with the proper calipers). I am not sure of the benefit of the drilling in cooling, but I am sure they help when driving in the rain. I have several times been driving in rain and had to wait for the brakes to clear water to get them to working. I am talking several car lengths worth at speed, and as far as I am concerned, any reduction is a positive one. ____________ A reduction of several car lengths is a HUGE positive improvement. But I have to admit, I'm a wee bit skeptical. Unless you're constantly driving through huge puddles of standing water that are six+ inches deep, I don't see how rain would cause a reduction in braking distance (by affecting the calipers as opposed, of course, to affecting tire grip) on any modern disc-braked car (as opposed to drums). Are you saying that the water gets onto the rotor and pads, and this prevents complete braking? And that drilling helps to evacuate that water? Have you compared drilled rotors v. solid rotors on the same car, in the rain, to arrive at your conclusion? If not, how did you reach your conclusion? I'm really curious, so whatever further info you can provide would be appreciated. thx, --Dennis __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:46:04 -0800 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WANTED: STOCK TV TUNER Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Group, I would like to find a stock TV tuner. The tuner can be found in e39 5 series cars, e38 7 series and some e53 X5's. Any help would be appreciated. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:48:59 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WANTED: STOCK TV TUNER Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > Group, > > I would like to find a stock TV tuner. The tuner can be found in e39 5 > series cars, e38 7 series and some e53 X5's. Any help would be > appreciated. > > Chris Not in the US it can't. Early E38 at best. Where are you? I have a TV tuner in stock, with video in motion enabled. Wiring it in is your problem. Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:02:18 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WANTED: Stock TV Tuner Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It isn't cheap, but the tuner kit from NavTV http://www.navtv.com/products-bmw-navtv.htm works well (even in motion) and is easy to install. Don't forget to buy the E39 antenna amps as well. Dennis At 09:46 PM 03/10/2004 -0800, you wrote: > I would like to find a stock TV tuner. The tuner can be found in e39 5 > series cars, > e38 7 series and some e53 X5's. Any help would be appreciated. [...] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:26:12 +0200 From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Brake discs to fit under 15" wheels? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list, Is it better to buy BMW brake discs or other branded vented rotors? I don't know if Brembo is available locally (probably is, though hugely expensive), but Ferodo and ATE discs certainly are. Best regards, Pavel '94 320i. Still on stock rims. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:51:23 +0200 From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brake discs to fit under 15" wheels? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. I did some phoning around and decided to get BMW. Will leave the fancy stuff for when I get big wheels :-) Is there anything else that should be replaced at the same time? I looked in my Haynes manual, it just mentions brake pads (got 'em). P -----Original Message----- Hello list, Is it better to buy BMW brake discs or other branded vented rotors? I don't know if Brembo is available locally (probably is, though hugely expensive), but Ferodo and ATE discs certainly are. Best regards, Pavel '94 320i. Still on stock rims. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 2004 13:56:21 +0200 From: Werner Gillmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: distilled water or not? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have read on a number of places that if you do a radiator flush you should use distilled water and not tap water, as normal tap water will corrode components. Is this true? Or can I just use normal tap water? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:32:24 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: distilled water or not? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Distilled water is better. Its easily available and inexpensive. Use it if you can. Gary Derian > > I have read on a number of places that if you do a radiator flush you > should use distilled water and not tap water, as normal tap water will > corrode components. Is this true? Or can I just use normal tap water? > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:22:28 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: distilled water or not? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Minerals in tap water will leave deposits in your engine. Distilled water is cheap and won't leave anything unwanted behind. It's well worth the extra $2 and the trip to the grocery store. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Gillmer Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] distilled water or not? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have read on a number of places that if you do a radiator flush you should use distilled water and not tap water, as normal tap water will corrode components. Is this true? Or can I just use normal tap water? __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:36:14 -0500 From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is this a record? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had a 325is produced in 12/86. The original battery (produded in 11/86) lasted until October 1996 - one month short of 10 years. Woody Hair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] Is this a record? > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- My 5/97 production M3 with 74K is still running fine on the original battery. That means I'm coming up on 7 years. I top it off with distilled water every once in a while. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:44:32 -0500 (EST) From: Joel Gallun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Woody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is this a record? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Woody wrote: > I had a 325is produced in 12/86. The original battery (produded in > 11/86) lasted until October 1996 - one month short of 10 years. The battery in my now race car '87 'is lasted even longer... I think I replaced it spring of '00. It probably would have lasted longer if it hadn't gone unused over the winter. joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:26:27 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MOVING SALE Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I�m moving and need to clean out the garage. If you are interested in any of these items, give me a call at 803- 606-9882 or reply by email and we can talk price and work out a deal. Located in the Columbia, SC area. * 98 M3 OEM Exhaust � No rust, removed from a southern car at about 50k miles. Great condition. * Brand new Dinan E36 M3 rear swaybar with reinforcement tabs. * Stock E36 M3 front swaybar removed at about 50k miles. * Stock E36 M3 Airbox and 2 stock air filters. * Brand new E36 M3 Sedan OEM style rear spoiler with brake light, painted Arctic Silver. Never installed. * BMW factory wheels, 3-Spoke Styling 38, staggered 7.5�x17� front and 8.5�x17� rear, ET41. Recently powder coated and in good condition. They have used Hoosier R-compounds on them and are suitable for either track or street use. * Two (2) BMW factory radio head units for 92-99 E36: Model number CM5903LC, Part Number 82 11 1 467 024 - The radio and CD Changer controls work perfectly and the cassette player works but will sometimes skip a little with some cassettes. It may just need a good cleaning. Model number CM5901L, Part Number 90 88 1 600 303 - The radio, cassette player,and CD Changer controls work perfectly, but there are some pixels out on the displayabove the"Band" button where the AM/FM/CD# displays. Dave Kelley 98 M3/4 94 325i ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
