The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 100 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Can Anyone Explain "Flame Surfacing"? Re: Can Anyone Explain "Flame Surfacing"? Re: E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up Electronic ignition setup for sale (M30 engine) Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Stock rear swaybar info & wanted... Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy <urgent> Anyone know Gurian Woodgate? Leaks everywhere! Oh My! (e36) Re: Leaks everywhere! Oh My! (e36) Re: <E30> Coolant light E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up Follow-up Swaybar linkages, M3 vs. other E36
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:05:35 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Can Anyone Explain "Flame Surfacing"? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know we've discussed this before, but I'm kind of clueless and would appreciate some help. Does anyone get "flame surfacing"? How does the flame enter into this? Does the sheetmetal supposedly look like a flame? Do they use a flame to create the shape? Do you have to be flaming to get it? I honestly don't see whatever it is that I'm supposed to be seeing. Scott Miller Artistically Challenged GGC BMW CCA Has only owned one BMW that wasn't basically square (it was the 630CSi) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can Anyone Explain "Flame Surfacing"? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Scott, I'm also artistically challenged, but I think I get what this flame surfacing is. If you go over to the bmwusa.com website, and look at pics 2 and 5 on the Z4's main page. I think, when you look up and down the door of the car, you see this wavey-like action going on (going back and forth from convex to concave). I guess it looks like a flame... Mike --- Scott & Charlotte Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know we've discussed this before, but I'm kind of > clueless and would > appreciate some help. Does anyone get "flame > surfacing"? How does > the flame enter into this? Does the sheetmetal > supposedly look like a > flame? Do they use a flame to create the shape? Do > you have to be > flaming to get it? I honestly don't see whatever it > is that I'm > supposed to be seeing. > > Scott Miller > Artistically Challenged > GGC BMW CCA > Has only owned one BMW that wasn't basically square > (it was the > 630CSi) > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:38:14 -0500 From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If the E30 is like my OBD I E36 (I'd imagine it's pretty similar) the code will still be in there. I just replaced my O2 sensor after about 40K. The last one was $68 in 12/00 the best price I could find last month was $97, a 43% increase in 3 years - OUCH! Anyway, the CE light was intermittent for a while, the stomp test still gave me 1221 even when it was off. I think there's a procedure to clear codes in memory, can't remember what it was or find it now though. Brian '94 325ic (now I just gotta get rid of that damn airbag light!) Scott & Charlotte Miller wrote: >I did the stomp test Monday afternoon before driving home after work, >and the code was still there. 1221 = oxygen sensor. It is only about >30K miles old, so I'm disappointed that it did not last longer before >setting a fault. Cheap Bosch crap! :^) Since I'm due for a smog >check soon, I'll have to replace it. I haven't driven the car since >the trip home Monday. I wonder if the code is erased from memory >after you read it out? Stay tuned. > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA >1990 325i "Flashy" > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:19:36 +0000 From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Electronic ignition setup for sale (M30 engine) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This should JUST about clear out my garage of "excess spare parts", as if you could ever have enough. Owners of carb M30 cars (E3, E9 and Euro E12, E23 & E24) as well as pre 1982 owners (pre-Motronic) with an injected M30 engine (E3, E12, E23 & E24) shoudl have a look at ebay auction 2469301003. For those who've asked about MORE E3 / E9 / E12 / E24 BIG BRAKE kits, I should have more in the next 2-4 weeks. Gregory in Geneva E30 touring A/C retrofit project will start when the weather makes all this rain stop !! _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:26:50 -0600 From: "Bob Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It looks like BMW's released official 1-series pictures and promo > material: > > http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/products/highlights/1series/1series/campaign/index.html > > What a gorgeous car, with lines reminiscent of a stretched Z Coupe, but > it's too bad the 5-door they're showing won't be making it to the US. > That's not a new Kia?! > If you go to the Character->Equipment submenu, there's a 3D model you can > rotate with your mouse. If one view isn't bad enough! Is this a bad dream or what? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:25:52 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol (BMW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm thinking the new Mazda 3 looks better than the 1-series. Sigh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:45:41 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You say that like you're surprised...... Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bora Akyol (BMW) > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:26 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Official 1-series pictures > > > I'm thinking the new Mazda 3 looks better than the 1-series. > > Sigh. > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:21:48 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stock rear swaybar info & wanted... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, I'm in the process of setting up my '93 325is for STX class autocross. The car currently has a 22.5mm rear bar that's two position adjustable, along with a 27.3mm front bar that's three way adjustable. Both are blue. I seem to recall that they're supposed to be RD bars? Anyway, my setup preference would be to go with a relatively soft rear bar, to help lessen inside rear wheelspin off the corner. I was curious what the stock rear swaybar size is on a '93 325is? How about the E36 M3? Anyone have a stock rear swaybar laying around they want to get rid of? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:31:21 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36 M3> Slave Cylinder Idiocy Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: Brian Daley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You replaced your clutch on jack stands? I did mine on a lift recently and I wouldn't want to attempt that feat... ----------- It builds character... I actually ended up removing the transmission 4 times because I was too cheap to buy the factory tool that is needed to install the input shaft seal. I installed three seals using a variety of homemade implements, each one was slightly crooked and leaked as soon as I drove the car. The fourth time I bought the tool from Brett Anderson (for $90) and it is still good 20K miles later. What's the old saying, "penny wise and pound foolish". At least I got good at removing an E36 transmission. Several people have pointed out that the magnet on a flexible shaft might work. In my case the entire guts of the slave cylinder were ejected into the bellhousing, I couldn't get any of them out with a magnet or one of those "claw" type tools. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 300i 1995 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:35:58 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <urgent> Anyone know Gurian Woodgate? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Need to get in touch with Gurian Woodgate very urgently. He's in Spring TX, 77379, owns an E36 328, I believe. If anyone knows him, please have him contact me ASAP on 440 338 1650 Thanks Brett Anderson KMS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Leaks everywhere! Oh My! (e36) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, So I spent some time under the '93 325is last night changing engine oil, tranny fluid, and diff fluid. In the process, I noticed a number of leaks that I was hoping are common, typical things that everyone already knows how to fix with parts that cost a dollar... :-) Starting at the front of the car... Right side of oil pan. Looks like the oil pan gasket on the right side leaks some. Is the fix just to drop the pan and replace the gasket? Anything in the way or that otherwise makes this difficult? Looking up the block, it doesn't seem to be a head gasket or anything like that... Underside of the bellhousing->tranny. Looks like perhaps the rear main seal on the motor is leaking? Just a guess. Presumably you need to drop the tranny to replace it. Anything weird about the replacement? Is it likely to be something else? Clutch slave cylinder. Looks like there's some brake fluid around the clutch slave cylinder. Typical problem? Anything weird about replacing the clutch slave cylinder? (I saw Brett's email the other day about the bleeding procedure...) Tranny output shaft seal... Maybe. This one could be engine oil from the rear main leak working its way back. Probably I'll wait on this one until the others are fixed, just to verify that its actually a problem. Right side diff case axle seal. Just some weeping of fluid. Anything weird on the seal replacement? Mostly on this stuff I'm just curious for any "been there and done that" advice, any special tools that are actually required, anything that I should "do while I'm there", etc. Thanks! Haven't checked out up top too much. Looks like the valve cover gasket may be weeping a bit, but I haven't pulled the plastic shrouds yet to check... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:06:12 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Leaks everywhere! Oh My! (e36) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark, It may not be as bad as you think. If you have a leak or seeping at the front of the car, this can make a terrible mess all the way to the back of the tranny. I would recommend trying to clean everything up as well as possibly & drive around for a little while, as that's really the only way you're going to find the sources of these leaks. HTH, Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Andy > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:52 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] Leaks everywhere! Oh My! (e36) > > > Howdy, > > So I spent some time under the '93 325is last night changing > engine oil, > tranny fluid, and diff fluid. In the process, I noticed a > number of leaks > that I was hoping are common, typical things that everyone > already knows > how to fix with parts that cost a dollar... :-) > > Starting at the front of the car... > > Right side of oil pan. Looks like the oil pan gasket on the > right side > leaks some. Is the fix just to drop the pan and replace the gasket? > Anything in the way or that otherwise makes this difficult? > Looking up > the block, it doesn't seem to be a head gasket or anything > like that... > > Underside of the bellhousing->tranny. Looks like perhaps the > rear main > seal on the motor is leaking? Just a guess. Presumably you > need to drop > the tranny to replace it. Anything weird about the > replacement? Is it > likely to be something else? > > Clutch slave cylinder. Looks like there's some brake fluid > around the > clutch slave cylinder. Typical problem? Anything weird > about replacing > the clutch slave cylinder? (I saw Brett's email the other > day about the > bleeding procedure...) > > Tranny output shaft seal... Maybe. This one could be engine > oil from the > rear main leak working its way back. Probably I'll wait on > this one until > the others are fixed, just to verify that its actually a problem. > > Right side diff case axle seal. Just some weeping of fluid. > Anything > weird on the seal replacement? > > Mostly on this stuff I'm just curious for any "been there and > done that" > advice, any special tools that are actually required, anything that I > should "do while I'm there", etc. > > Thanks! Haven't checked out up top too much. Looks like the > valve cover > gasket may be weeping a bit, but I haven't pulled the plastic > shrouds yet > to check... > > Mark > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:10:00 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> Coolant light Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ideas? Yes, it is still the sensor, that is exactly how mine behaved. Eventually they get to the point where they just can't be made to work any more. Replace it and all will be fine. At least that's what I did. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA 1990 325i 1991 325iA >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:53:18 -0500 (GMT-05:00) >From: John Sabatini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: <E30> Coolant light >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >earthlink.net> > >The Coolant light on my '90 325is has started coming on periodically >when there is plenty of coolant in the tank. At first it would come >on when I first started the car and I thought it was a stuck float >on the sensor. I would take the sensor out and rinse it off and all >was well. Now it is happening after I have drove the car for about >30 or 45 minutes. Any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:16:24 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up Follow-up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, I'm answering my own post. Reading out the code does not erase it from memory, it is still there. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:57:27 -0800 >From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: E30 Check Engine Code, Follow-up >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I did the stomp test Monday afternoon before driving home after work, >and the code was still there. 1221 = oxygen sensor. It is only about >30K miles old, so I'm disappointed that it did not last longer before >setting a fault. Cheap Bosch crap! :^) Since I'm due for a smog >check soon, I'll have to replace it. I haven't driven the car since >the trip home Monday. I wonder if the code is erased from memory >after you read it out? Stay tuned. > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA >1990 325i "Flashy" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:21:46 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Swaybar linkages, M3 vs. other E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, I suspect this has been asked and answered before, but I can't find it. Why did BMW connect the front sway bar on the M3 to the struts, vs. the lower control arm like on my '93 325is? As part of my suspension changes, I'll be putting on a set of "cut-a-struts" with Koni inserts that came from an M3, so I could connect the swaybar in either place. Is one option better than another? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
