The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 102 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Re: Official 1-series pictures Floor mats Re: E30 front end rebuild Re: Swaybar linkages, M3 vs. other E36 Re: E30 front end rebuild RE>Coolant light on Re: //M3 swaybar alternatives Shipping bumpers
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:38:15 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Funny this should come up... I was reading the latest issue of Roundel today and saw the 745i vs. A8 article. Apparently the A8 has a similar system called "MMI" for MultiMedia Interface. So it's a new industry-wide thing. To quote a wise listmember, "Oh goody". What it reminded me of immediately was when I was back in school and the University thought it would be a good idea to change "library" to "media resource center". Funny, I thought "library" referred to the center in which one sourced all kinds of media already, but obviously that was another example of "the way that worked all along must be thrown out in favor of something new and clunky because we've run out of useful creativity." Bah. It may take a loss in the marketplace to bring back the real BMW we love. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Official 1-series pictures > I note from the features that it's got iDrive. Oh goody, that should make > them lots of friends. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:56:57 -0500 From: UUC Digest Monitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hear hear! I still think the best writeup on the iDrive system was done by Piston Heads: http://www.pistonheads.com/truth/default.asp?storyId=3867 Quote from the article: "The company that builds "The Ultimate Driving Machine" is the one company that should know an over-complicated and dangerous distraction when it sees one. The iDrive is not, as BMW claims, "A New Way to Drive". It is, in fact, a new way to die." At 05:38 PM 3/24/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Funny this should come up... I was reading the latest issue of Roundel >today and saw the 745i vs. A8 article. Apparently the A8 has a similar >system called "MMI" for MultiMedia Interface. > >So it's a new industry-wide thing. To quote a wise listmember, "Oh goody". > >What it reminded me of immediately was when I was back in school and the >University thought it would be a good idea to change "library" to "media >resource center". Funny, I thought "library" referred to the center in >which one sourced all kinds of media already, but obviously that was >another example of "the way that worked all along must be thrown out in >favor of something new and clunky because we've run out of useful creativity." > >Bah. It may take a loss in the marketplace to bring back the real BMW we >love. > >- Rob Michael K Donohue System Administrator UUC Digest http://www.uucdigest.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Mar 2004 23:16:29 -0000 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An aggressive cross between the new 5 and an MZ-coupe, but it really works > for me! Just give it a more powerful engine (>150 bhp) and keep the weight below > 3,000 pounds and BMW NA will have my money.W I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring here too. I think it's a beautiful execution of a 5-door hatch, with all the things I like about the M Coupe and the new design style. I'm not a fan of the cut line from the hood to the grille, but I understand why they did (E46 3-series hoods are spendy and minor fender-benders tend to require an entire new hood). Give it a high-revving four or a torquey 6 and make sure it's low weight, and I'll put down my downpayment now. -peter*g ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:49:38 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> peter*g wrote: > Give it a high-revving four or a torquey 6 and make sure > it's low weight, and I'll put down my downpayment now. note that at launch it has a 163+hp diesel & a 150hp gas engine, both 2.0l 4 cyl's. per this week's Autoweek they're working on a new 2.2l 6 for the car, but we won't get anything until 2006 : <http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&content_code=08700284> it's too bad they aren't confident enough in the package that they'll sell it as a hatch here, odd since Audi is going the other direction & bringing 3 & 5 door versions of the A3 here shortly... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:07:07 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> re: 1 Series. Gonna toss my helmet in here too: After playing every link I could find on the website, I'm disappointed. A 2 liter 8 valve with 318i (E30) injection, a bigger throttle, and proper retuning will give 150 reliable hp. On paper the marvel of modern engineering the 1 series is supposed to get should make at least 170 warranteeable 87 octane hp, over 200 with aftermarket tuning and premium gas. Couldn't help notice the scene showing the tach needle revving 3 to 5000. What about redline? Are there sources for specs on this car? Weight? Tire/Wheel sizes? Gearings? Looks like an E46 redress of the 318ti, and not to start a thread on the merits of the E36 compact, some of you know the experiences I went through with two of them, one a dealer buyback that BMWNA ordered, another a lemon law case that settled well in my favor. My E36 //M3 is more car than I could have wanted, and even at its price, was a great value for what I got for the money. Though the E36 styling might be a bit dated, I'll stay far away from this 1 series. With BMWs, you don't get what you don't pay for, and from this multimedia preview, looks like there's a lot missing. Barry >>An aggressive cross between the new 5 and an MZ-coupe, but it really works >>for me! Just give it a more powerful engine (>150 bhp) and keep the weight below >>3,000 pounds and BMW NA will have my money.W >> >> > >I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring here too. I think it's a beautiful execution of a >5-door hatch, with all the things I like about the M Coupe >and the new design style. I'm not a fan of the cut line from the hood to the grille, >but I understand why they did (E46 3-series hoods are >spendy and minor fender-benders tend to require an entire new hood). > >Give it a high-revving four or a torquey 6 and make sure it's low weight, and I'll >put down my downpayment now. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:21:29 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mar 24, 2004, at 4:07 PM, jkerouac wrote: > After playing every link I could find on the website, I'm disappointed. > A 2 liter 8 valve with 318i (E30) injection, a bigger throttle, and > proper retuning will give 150 reliable hp. On paper the marvel of > modern engineering the 1 series is supposed to get should make at > least 170 warranteeable 87 octane hp, over 200 with aftermarket tuning > and premium gas. There's 20 years of advancing emissions regulations in there, too. Remember, BMW had to punch out the 2.5L motor to 2.8L just to maintain the same power (and negligably more torque) when going from OBD1 to OBD2. - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:34:27 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 2.8 (M52) was stroked, not bored. The M52 has a bunch of changes that include small intake runners. It has a bunch more low speed torque but the peak numbers don't show it. The changes were not to meet OBD II but rather a desire to build a torquey engine. Gary Derian > On Mar 24, 2004, at 4:07 PM, jkerouac wrote: > > After playing every link I could find on the website, I'm disappointed. > > A 2 liter 8 valve with 318i (E30) injection, a bigger throttle, and > > proper retuning will give 150 reliable hp. On paper the marvel of > > modern engineering the 1 series is supposed to get should make at > > least 170 warranteeable 87 octane hp, over 200 with aftermarket tuning > > and premium gas. > > There's 20 years of advancing emissions regulations in there, too. > Remember, BMW had to punch out the 2.5L motor to 2.8L just to maintain > the same power (and negligably more torque) when going from OBD1 to > OBD2. > > - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:22:35 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Official 1-series pictures Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jkerouac wrote: > A 2 liter 8 valve with 318i (E30) injection, a bigger throttle, and > proper retuning will give 150 reliable hp. and wouldn't pass emissions laws which were in place when it was originally sold, let alone the orders of magnitude more stringent ones in place now. > On paper the marvel of modern engineering the 1 series is > supposed to get should make at least 170 warranteeable > 87 octane hp, over 200 with aftermarket tuning and > premium gas. maybe. it's the base model gas engine car (an afterthought in the market, where diesels are well over 50% of sales) and it's going to be supplemented by the 2.2l 6 with 180hp in the future, so it can be boring & a bit slow. > Couldn't help notice the scene showing the tach needle revving 3 to > 5000. What about redline? might be the diesel, it's just advertising. > Are there sources for specs on this car? Weight? Tire/Wheel sizes? > Gearings? no, they just released pictures of it for the first time this week. they'll do specs soon enough. have a bit of patience. > Looks like an E46 redress of the 318ti no, they already have an E46 compact : <http://www.bmw.co.uk/apm/new_bmw/mid/index/0,3032,1156_1503__bs-Mw%253D%253D%252Bbb-S08%253D,00.html> whatever the case may have been with the E36 ti, they've got 2 years to get the 1-series right before it gets here. I wouldn't pay for a new BMW unless they do a real successor to the E30 M3, but we'll see whether that happens... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:49:21 -0800 (PST) From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Floor mats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings all, I need to purchase new black floor mats and was hoping you guys could recommend some good quality ones at a good price. The last set I purchased started to fold after time and won't lay flat anymore. They also started to unstitch on the ends. These were supposed to be good quality floor mats and I paid for them as such. Is there a particular brand that is tougher, longer lasting, and won't fade? Thanks!! Manuel Paredes 95 325i L.A. BMWCCA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:03:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 front end rebuild Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joe, When I did the struts on my old E28 a few months ago, I first did it with ZERO air tools. It was a royal pain to get the upper nut off without air tools! Definitely see if you can locate some air tools. They'll make removal of the front strut housing and removal of the strut itself much easier. Also, the Bilstein strut collar nut was pretty difficult, too, but I ended up finding the proper Bilstein tool to use to remove it. If you have Bilsteins in the car, you'll need either the proper Bilstein collar nut removal tool, or you'll need a big fudgin' pipe wrench. The Boges and Konis use a different, "regular" collar nut, but I have no experience with it. I suspect the pipe wrench would work on it, too. Good luck, Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '87 528e <-- gettin LOTS of work done tomorrow! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In 1 week I am going to be replacing my front strut > inserts, control arms > and control arm bushings. I am already hosing down > every bolt involved in > this with penetrating oil in preparation for the > job. > > I would like to hear from people who have done this > (or parts of this job). > > What is the best way to separate the ball joints? > > Is there oil in the strut housing for stock inserts? > > How hard is it to get the retaining collar out of > the strut housing? What do > you grab it with? > > How about getting the control arm bushings? Advice > on getting them pressed > into the housings or getting them on the control > arms? > > I would like to hear all the useful advice before I > get started for once... > > -- Joe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Swaybar linkages, M3 vs. other E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, chet.dawes wrote: > 2) Geometry: Ideally, the link will be exactly perpendicular to the > sway bar end to apply force in the direction of the link to then act to > twist the anti-roll bar) and not translate undesired forces to the > bushings and then to the body. The longer link creates a better angle > over the entire travel range of the suspension. I exerpted just that one part because the other stuff was totally clear. Should've thought of it! Thanks to you and the others for the explanation... Just one more question on geometry. It seems like putting the swaybar linkage to a tab welding to the the strut housing would have one interesting effect... Namely that the endlink mounting point moves up and down when the wheels are turned due to the strut not being perpendicular. In effect, when the front of the wheel turns toward the outside, the endlink mounting point will rise (pulling the swaybar along with it). On the other wheel, where the front is turning toward the center of the car, the endlink mounting point will drop. Seems like this would effectively jack the body so that the inside dropped and the outside rose... Right? That seems like a good thing overall, but I'm not sure I'm examining it correctly... Thanks again! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:23:28 -0800 From: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 front end rebuild Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Press out the old bushings with a big fat socket, and press in the new bushings with the old bushings. Get them onto the control arms with liquid dish soap. See: http://216.97.77.38/HTMLFiles/Menu1/Menu1-4-2/R&RControlArms.htm > >Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:23:39 -0500 (EST) >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list) >Subject: E30 front end rebuild >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >In 1 week I am going to be replacing my front strut inserts, control arms >and control arm bushings. I am already hosing down every bolt involved in >this with penetrating oil in preparation for the job. > >I would like to hear from people who have done this (or parts of this job). > >What is the best way to separate the ball joints? > >Is there oil in the strut housing for stock inserts? > >How hard is it to get the retaining collar out of the strut housing? What do >you grab it with? > >How about getting the control arm bushings? Advice on getting them pressed >into the housings or getting them on the control arms? > >I would like to hear all the useful advice before I get started for once... > >-- Joe > >-- >Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:49:04 -0800 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE>Coolant light on Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Coolant light on my '90 325is has started coming on periodically . . . I went nuts trying to figure out that problem on an 87 E30ic. Checked the sensor in the tank, it was fine, plenty of coolant. Ref. Bentley wiring diagram and starting checking wiring. The circuit grounds the low coolant lamp to complete the circuit from power source to bulb to sensor in tank to ground near the driver's side headlamp. Turned out to be a bad connector at the sensor. I cut the old one off and crimped on a pair of suitable "molex" female pins and re used the original insulating sleeve from the old connector. Problem solved. Harvey The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh. I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it off and use a Mac. " Author Unknown Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:49:15 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: //M3 swaybar alternatives Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> re: //M3 swaybar alternatives: Chet, Great timing for your post, and exactly right you are. Currently the M3 is on ramps getting a 94 325i 4 door sedan front swaybar. This 325i bar is a mm thicker than the E36 3.2 liter //M3 stock. The equivalent of increasing the thickness of a control arm mounted bar by 1.5-2mm. Since these are frequent stock take offs, they're cheap (~$50. or less) and readily available too. The intention is to make the car as flat or flatter with R compound tires at the limits as it was with street tires before. The extra bit of front end push the bigger bar will cause is easily dialed out by lowering the rear tire pressure by ~2-4 psi. There is a limit to how much the //M3 strut tube mounts can handle without extra reinforcing. I've seen stock //M3 mounting tabs ripped by a 26 mm S package bar. Barry >Here's a rare example where M3 folks might try factory non-M >parts when looking for an upgrade. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:16:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Shipping bumpers Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Any suggestions on how to ship a bumper as cheaply as possible, time is not a factor? FedEx, UPS, USPS, etc.? Surely there's a more economic way to ship a bulky item like this. I have quotes from the majors around $70-$90. TIA Evan ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
