The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 113 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: [uuc] re: sway bars (from last week!) #2 pencil Re: #2 pencil Re: #2 pencil Re: [uuc] re: sway bars (from last week!) Re: E36: Max spacer size with standard lug bolts? Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Re: distilled water or not? Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:25:50 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Simple - legalize abortion through the 297th month. Not really so much of a ban, but a typical governmental catch-up sort of thing. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If we ban stupidity, then most other problems will > fade away. Let me know your plan to ban stupidity. > > Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:19:57 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry, until the patent's finished I can't do that......... ;) Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 09:50 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> > > > If we ban stupidity, then most other problems will > fade away. Let me know your plan to ban stupidity. > > Gary Derian > > > > > > I think we should start with banning stupidity & > > then follow up with the > > > > Lee > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:57:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hate to break it to you, but I think Trojan already has a patent on that. Oh wait, that would require stupid people to use them. Hmmm...the government mandated airbags to protect people who don't use seat belts, maybe the NASA scientists could come up with a self-deploying device. They seem to have some tax dollars to burn and they've already conquered the challenge of a ball-point pen that writes in zero gravity... Brian -----Original Message----- From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 30, 2004 11:19 AM To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Sorry, until the patent's finished I can't do that......... ;) Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 09:50 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> > > > If we ban stupidity, then most other problems will > fade away. Let me know your plan to ban stupidity. > > Gary Derian > > > > > > I think we should start with banning stupidity & > > then follow up with the > > > > Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:57:40 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How 'bout legalizing it through about the 39th year....... > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob > Levinson * UUC > Motorwerks > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:26 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> > > > Simple - legalize abortion through the 297th month. > > Not really so much of a ban, but a typical governmental > catch-up sort of thing. > > - Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > If we ban stupidity, then most other problems will > > fade away. Let me know your plan to ban stupidity. > > > > Gary Derian > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:00:19 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's not just Atlanta. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Grant Low > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 13:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Last summer we were out at, like 6am on a Sunday on the ATL > > autobahn. It's a nice, straight 4-lane wide median-divided > > hwy that is, um unpatrolled, at that time. We were blasting > > down this road, generally mis-behaving on track tires, at > > around the top speed of the car, which one might hypothesize > > would be in the low 140's. > <snip> > > > > Lee > > What is it with this going on in ATL? One summer, my family > was piled up in > the minivan headed to Florida from Indiana, and we decided to > drive through > the night. We went through downtown ATL in the early morning > (sun was just > coming up) and 2 sport bikes flew by us like we were sitting > still. I was > only half awake (and probably 12 years old) but I can still > see the video > clip in my head. It was downtown where there are lots of > overpasses and > high concrete walls and it dips down then back up - so you > can't see that > far ahead. > > People who ride "donorcycles" like that are either incredibly > ballsy or > incredibly stupid, probably both. > > Grant > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:08:01 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> whoops, didn't read Rob's post carefully enough..... > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robinson, Lee > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 14:58 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> > > > How 'bout legalizing it through about the 39th year....... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob > > Levinson * UUC > > Motorwerks > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:26 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> > > > > > > Simple - legalize abortion through the 297th month. > > > > Not really so much of a ban, but a typical governmental > > catch-up sort of thing. > > > > - Rob > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > If we ban stupidity, then most other problems will > > > fade away. Let me know your plan to ban stupidity. > > > > > > Gary Derian > > Search the > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ____________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > > the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:11:30 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] re: sway bars (from last week!) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Measure your understeer coefficient then you will know. Gary [Mr. Skidpad] Derian > about 19mm. Do I even want to stiffen the rear sway > bar, given 500lb springs and Koni SA shocks up into > solid mounts, and urethane rear trailing arm > bushings? > > Thanks, > Don Bredle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:10:17 -0800 From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: #2 pencil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lee Ponders: always wondered why they made pencils with numbers other than #2 Personally, I don't like #2 pencils. The graphite is not dense enough, and the edges of the trail are fuzzy. I prefer HB lead in the 0.05 mm size. The writing is good and dense, and the edges are sharp and clear. More useless information for the masses Steve Albrecht ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:50:04 -0800 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: #2 pencil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > > Personally, I don't like #2 pencils. The graphite is not > dense enough, > and the edges of the trail are fuzzy. I prefer HB lead in > the 0.05 mm > size. The writing is good and dense, and the edges are sharp > and clear. > > More useless information for the masses > Steve Albrecht For a long time, I was on a pencil kick. I found that I liked the Staedtler Mars "lead holder" style. The leads are about 5" long and available in every hardness. Had to carry around a special sharpener, but man, I loved the weight and sharpness of the point. Of course, you could wear it down a bit and shade things perfectly. I think I used a 2B or something. Been too long. Grant - previously wanted to be an architect, still have a bit of that inkling ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:41:01 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #2 pencil Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am not being picky, but it is 0.5 mm lead...that would be a very fine line to cross:-) I actually prefer the 0.7 mm size pencils, as I have a muscle issue that makes me break leads easily. David -----Original Message----- From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 30, 2004 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] #2 pencil Lee Ponders: always wondered why they made pencils with numbers other than #2 Personally, I don't like #2 pencils. The graphite is not dense enough, and the edges of the trail are fuzzy. I prefer HB lead in the 0.05 mm size. The writing is good and dense, and the edges are sharp and clear. More useless information for the masses Steve Albrecht Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:49:25 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bredle, Donald L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] re: sway bars (from last week!) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re:[uuc] re: sway bars: Don, Yes, use your existing front bar attached to the //M3 links and strut tubes. The E36 front bar R&Rs surprisingly easily and quickly. Maybe give it the award for the 'best guided R&D' on a recent BMW. The radius of the control arm mounted bars is one half inch shorter. I measured the standard and the //M bar side by side. The //M bar has a 7 1/4" radius versus 6 3/4" for the standard bars. That makes the standard bar an additional ~9% stiffer even at the same radius as the //M. With the extra load this bar will put on the links, probably a good idea to use the UUC links to connect it to the strut tubes. First step after installing the thicker and shorter bar was to dial out the added understeer by reducing the rear tire pressure. Lowering mine 3psi seems to balance the car out after switching up to a 24mm front bar, with your 25mm bar possibly 5 psi lower as a starting point. I also tightened the rear Konis by 1/4 turn stiffer. For the rear bar, keeping stock with the 500# springs would be better than changing several items at once. Good Luck, Barry Bredle, Donald L. wrote: >Sorry to be so slow responding to last week's thread on sway bars, but I've been busy >with shocks, springs, and an alignment :) >let me see...I've got my eye on some new UUC swaybars, but instead of buying new >ones... if I have M3 type strut tubes (which I now do, thanks to TCKline :)) on my >'96 328i, would the best solution be to keep my front sway bar, which is already >25mm, though rusty, and try to add the M3 end links which would attach it up to the >strut instead of down to the control arm? Or is the end/shape of an M3 bar otherwise >different from the end of the 328i version? Also, I suppose the old rubber sway bar >bushings would need to be replaced with urethane ones. >Is there a similar way to stiffen the rear on the 328i without buying a new bar? The >current one is about 19mm. Do I even want to stiffen the rear sway bar, given 500lb >springs and Koni SA shocks up into solid mounts, and urethane rear trailing arm >bushings? >Thanks, >Don Bredle >re: //M3 swaybar alternatives: >Chet, > Great timing for your post, and exactly right you are. Currently >the M3 is on ramps getting a 94 325i 4 door sedan front swaybar. This >325i bar is a mm thicker than the E36 3.2 liter //M3 stock. The >equivalent of increasing the thickness of a control arm mounted bar by >1.5-2mm. >Since these are frequent stock take offs, they're cheap (~$50. or less) >and readily available too. The intention is to make the car as flat or >flatter with R compound tires at the limits as it was with street tires >before. The extra bit of front end push the bigger bar will cause is >easily dialed out by lowering the rear tire pressure by ~2-4 psi. There >is a limit to how much the //M3 strut tube mounts can handle without >extra reinforcing. I've seen stock //M3 mounting tabs ripped by a 26 mm >S package bar. >Barry > > >Here's a rare example where M3 folks might try factory non-M > >parts when looking for an upgrade > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:54:03 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36: Max spacer size with standard lug bolts? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 3/30/04 11:21 AM, "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Granted, the studs are ugly, but on a race car who cares. And on a street car you can use studs plus closed end nuts like the 5455 seen here: http://www.prestigewheel.com/Image4502.asp And note that they're less than a buck each. Neil 96 M3 - wheel studs with chromed closed end nuts ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:38:55 -0800 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > > Last summer we were out at, like 6am on a Sunday on the ATL > autobahn. It's a nice, straight 4-lane wide median-divided > hwy that is, um unpatrolled, at that time. We were blasting > down this road, generally mis-behaving on track tires, at > around the top speed of the car, which one might hypothesize > would be in the low 140's. <snip> > > Lee What is it with this going on in ATL? One summer, my family was piled up in the minivan headed to Florida from Indiana, and we decided to drive through the night. We went through downtown ATL in the early morning (sun was just coming up) and 2 sport bikes flew by us like we were sitting still. I was only half awake (and probably 12 years old) but I can still see the video clip in my head. It was downtown where there are lots of overpasses and high concrete walls and it dips down then back up - so you can't see that far ahead. People who ride "donorcycles" like that are either incredibly ballsy or incredibly stupid, probably both. Grant ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:00:20 -0500 From: "GA Carnut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: distilled water or not? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Damn, y'all are gonna make me go flush my radiator now, aren't you! Probably have to change the oil while I'm at it - I've got about 10k on this change. Dino, to boot! ;-) Chip Chip Mautz '65 Austin Healey Sprite '88 BMW 528e '03 Chevy Suburban I didn't grow up - my toys just got more expensive. Your mileage may vary. My odometer broke years ago... _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:01:57 -0500 From: "GA Carnut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reminds me of the time I was cruising home up I-85 in N.E. Metro Atlanta, about 10:00 PM at night. Was in the fast lane, doing 85mph in my '02 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (pre-bimmer days). Looked down to do something, looked up, to see a 1.8T Passat bearing down on me at around 130 mph or so. There was a minivan right next to me, so there was nowhere for me to go. I hooked it in as close to him as I could w/o hitting him, and the VW went b/w me and the concrete dividing wall. Luckily, there was enough emergency lane left (HOV lane had just ended at Steve Reynolds Blvd) for him to go b/w us, and not hit anything. If I'd been alone, I'd have gone after him, I was so mad (stupid, I know, but to do nothing is easier said than done). But I had my 1 yr. old daughter and wife in the car... but boy was I MAD! I'm as crazy as the next bimmer driver, and love (controlled) high speed driving, but c'mon, there's a time and a place! If I'm ever in danger of putting anyone else at risk, I back off and drive pretty normally... luckily, it's 70-90 mph around here! Chip Chip Mautz '65 Austin Healey Sprite '88 BMW 528e '03 Chevy Suburban I didn't grow up - my toys just got more expensive. Your mileage may vary. My odometer broke years ago... _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar � get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
