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Volume 2 : Issue 111 : "text" Format

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  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Re: E36 climate control cutting out
  Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
  Fwd: I am Sure that NO loving 
  RE>Misguided R&D
  Re: RE>Misguided R&D
  Re: RE>Misguided R&D
  Re: RE>Misguided R&D
  Re: RE>Misguided R&D
  Re: RE>Misguided R&D
  Re: RE>Misguided R&D
  OFF TPOPIC ALERT
  Another german engineer that should be knocked about
  E36: Max spacer size with standard lug bolts?

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:38:47 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.multivexmirror.com/index.html

Several riding friends have these on their bikes. They make a set for
one of my bikes and I am thinking about trying them.

Looks like no fitment for any BMWs, perhaps we should start an e-mail
campaign :-) ?

Dennis


At 01:53 PM 3/29/04 -0800, John Miller wrote:

>>As far as BMW content, my E30 M3 has euro mirrors with two panels
>>in place of the single panel mirror. Hard to describe
>>in an email but essentially 3/4s of the way outward one panel ends
>>and a smaller convex panel starts. Neat.
>
>I've got that in my E39 M5 - the aspheric mirror, inner section is 
>slightly convex and the outer section more barrel-shaped.


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:07:48 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You don't need those mirrors for BMWs.  You can get Euro spec mirrors that
are convex.
Gary Derian


> http://www.multivexmirror.com/index.html
>
> Several riding friends have these on their bikes. They make a set for
> one of my bikes and I am thinking about trying them.
>
> Looks like no fitment for any BMWs, perhaps we should start an e-mail
> campaign :-) ?
>
> Dennis



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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:03:05 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 climate control cutting out
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It's always a good idea on these solder reflow or resolder projects to scan
the solder pads with a good magnifying glass to look for cracks at the base
of the solder "mound" or at the point of contact with a through pin. Often
times these will also look dark or "burned". A dab of solder on the iron
and then touch it to the post will reflow and close the crack. (You may
have to remove the conformal coating). Be careful on IC's or transistors
not to leave the iron on too long as it stresses the package , bonds and
transistors.
It's also good practice to make sure you ground yourself and the iron to
dissipate any static before working a board.

-Kevin




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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:14:10 -0800
From: "Jason Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Misguided  R&D:  Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Reminds me of a sig I was going to use:

"Programming today is a race between software engineers
striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the
Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots.  So far, the
Universe is winning."

I suppose it applies to most fields though, apparently including automotive
engineering.  But I agree with Bora that safety improvements for the masses
are a good thing.  I pride myself on being an alert, cautious, and
communicative driver, but I still have lapses in thinking and judgement from
time to time; perhaps one of these newfangled things will come in handy that
one time I have an oopsy.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robinson, Lee
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:00 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [UUC] Misguided R&D: Blind Spot Detector <non-BMW>


Like the adage:  "make it more idiot-proof & people will become bigger
idiots."

I see this at work all the time.  The more you do to help make someone's job
safer, easier, more efficient, the less they use their brain.

Consumers seem to want more & features that take having to drive out of
driving.  It would be a lot less stressful if they'd just take the bus.  Oh,
wait, there'd have to be busses to take.

Lee->would take the bus if there was one.....


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:23:27 -0800
From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: I am Sure that NO loving 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: March 29, 2004 6:20:45 PM PST
> To:
> Subject: I am Sure that NO loving
>
> father of a driving age daughter would do ANYTHING like this - would 
> we?  VBEG.
>
>
> <http://archangel.clubchat.com/blonde.html>
>
>
> Harvey
> The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
>    I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn 
> it off and use a Mac. "  Author Unknown
>    Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft 
> product.
>           -- Ferenc Mantfeld
>
Harvey
The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
    I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it 
off and use a Mac. "  Author Unknown
    Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft 
product.
           -- Ferenc Mantfeld



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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:26:38 -0800
From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There is a story goin' 'round that NASA, in the early days of manned 
space flight, discovered that ball point pens would not work in zero 
gravity  etc.

So - NASA spent untold BIG BUCKS to develop a ball point pen that would 
write in zero gravity, upside down, . . . .
-
-
-
-
-
The Russians had the same problem,  so their solution was to use a 
pencil!


Harvey
The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
    I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it 
off and use a Mac. "  Author Unknown
    Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft 
product.
           -- Ferenc Mantfeld


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:38:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My Physics teacher in college worked for NASA.  She
told us the same exact story.

She also told us about one problem they were having,
where they were spending millions trying to figure out
how to keep the astronauts from getting shocked when
they touched the shuttle while on a spacewalk outside
the shuttle.  They eventually solved it with some
caulk.

The solution to a complex problem is often too simple
to comprehend.

Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
'87 528e



--- Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a story goin' 'round that NASA, in the
> early days of manned 
> space flight, discovered that ball point pens would
> not work in zero 
> gravity  etc.
> 
> So - NASA spent untold BIG BUCKS to develop a ball
> point pen that would 
> write in zero gravity, upside down, . . . .
> -
> -
> -
> -
> -
> The Russians had the same problem,  so their
> solution was to use a 
> pencil!
> 
> 
> Harvey

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:56:37 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Did the caulk prevent the electrons from leaking?
Gary Derian

> 
> She also told us about one problem they were having,
> where they were spending millions trying to figure out
> how to keep the astronauts from getting shocked when
> they touched the shuttle while on a spacewalk outside
> the shuttle.  They eventually solved it with some
> caulk.
> 
> The solution to a complex problem is often too simple
> to comprehend.
> 
> Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
> '87 528e



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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:27:00 -0800
From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> -----Original Message-----
> The solution to a complex problem is often too simple
> to comprehend.
> 
> Brad "Shifty" Couvillon

But you know, with all those engineers sitting around, one of them had to
say, "Just use a pencil!"  All the other engineers just looked at him and
said, "And you call yourself a geek??  For shame!"  Come on, what fun would
*researchers* have if they didn't get to invent cool new toys?

Grant - never had one of those pens, but saw them at Kennedy Space Center



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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:16:38 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Nah... just caulked their mouths shut so they wouldn't yelp into their
communicators...  -Jay
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> Did the caulk prevent the electrons from leaking?
> Gary Derian
> 
> > 
> > She also told us about one problem they were having,
> > where they were spending millions trying to figure out
> > how to keep the astronauts from getting shocked when
> > they touched the shuttle while on a spacewalk outside
> > the shuttle.  They eventually solved it with some
> > caulk.
> > 
> > The solution to a complex problem is often too simple
> > to comprehend.
> > 
> > Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
> > '87 528e



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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:31:03 +0700
From: "Sean Cordone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I got a similar story from a Russian physicist I worked for as an undergraduate. It 
seems that by the '70s the USSR was having a hard time matching the precision guidance 
systems in US ICBMs, so, with perfect Cold War logic, they started packaging multiple 
"cluster" warheads with their erratic guidance systems to ensure target destruction. 
Anybody who's seen the example at the Air & Space Museum in DC will know what I'm 
talking about. Simple, if terrifying, solution to the problem. --SC


----- Original Message -----
From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:26:38 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC]  RE>Misguided R&D

> There is a story goin' 'round that NASA, in the early days of manned 
> space flight, discovered that ball point pens would not work in zero 
> gravity  etc.
> 
> So - NASA spent untold BIG BUCKS to develop a ball point pen that would 
> write in zero gravity, upside down, . . . .
> -
> -
> -
> -
> -
> The Russians had the same problem,  so their solution was to use a 
> pencil!
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:55:09 -0500
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE>Misguided R&D
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 
> There is a story goin' 'round that NASA, in the early days of manned 
> space flight, discovered that ball point pens would not work in zero 
> gravity  etc.
> 
> So - NASA spent untold BIG BUCKS to develop a ball point pen 
> that would 
> write in zero gravity, upside down, . . . .
> -
> -
> -
> -
> -
> The Russians had the same problem,  so their solution was to use a 
> pencil!

What's the point of having billions of taxpayer dollars lying around if you
can't use it?

What's really amazing is that NASA would continue trying to force something
that didn't want to work to work, rather than get the gears turning in
engineer's heads to come up with some thing better.

I'm sure if you asked a period NASA engineer, he'd have some response about
the pencil tip breaking or graphite dust or something.

Besides, it looks cool to the average dumba$$ when the big story on the news
is the US technological machine's development of new-fangled stuff that no
one could do before.

Lee->somewhat cynical.......uses pencils-->#2 of course.....always wondered
why they made pencils with numbers other than #2

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:53:51 -0500
From: "Langsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "A BMWUUC  Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OFF TPOPIC ALERT
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I share this here only becuase this list has lots of members that travel,
and one of my other hobbies is boating . . I feel for this owner!
TIA,
Mario L.

>From OFFSHOREONLY.com:


Anyone with information leading to the return or recovery of a 42' Marine
Technologies (MTI) will receive a REWARD!! The boat was last seen leaving
the MTI factory heading East on Highway 40 going through Chesterfield
Valley, Missouri at 5:30 A.M Sunday morning. The boat was last seen being
towed by a white truck and is on a white Heritage Trailer.

The boat is Orange, Blue, and Silver with Rivets on the side as part of the
paint job. The boat has Mercury Speedmaster #6's and has a Pleasure style
cockpit.

Anyone with information please contact Offshoreonly at 954-463-1101, your
information will remain anynomous. The boat is valued at approximately
$500,000 (it did not have motors) and a generous REWARD will be paid.
Pictures of the boat can be seen on the Offshoreonly Home Page in the News
section at www.offshoreonly.com





          www.VSR1.com
Vintage Sports & Racing, LLC
3 Robinson Rd.  Bow, NH 03304              603-228-2888







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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:00:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Another german engineer that should be knocked about
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy,

So, changed the fuel filter on the '93 325is tonight.  I remember from a 
while back that someone was saying this was an annoying job.

They were right.  :-)

The freaking fuel line came from _all the way in the back of the car_ and 
the best place they could find to put the filter was tucked in behind the 
motor?  I mean, sure, its not the most difficult thing I've had to do 
service wise, but its so freaking pointless!

(took me about an hour, never having done one.  Next time it'll be half 
that or less, since I know now to take off the top hose at the fuel rail 
or whatever without looking at other options & such...  Oh!  And next time 
I'm going to try and remember to de-pressurize the system first.  
Actually... Perhaps that should read "CONTROLLABLY depressurize the 
system"...  :-)

Stupid germans.

Mark


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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:23:27 +0200
From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E36: Max spacer size with standard lug bolts?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What is the maximum spacer that can be used with the standard lug bolts
that come with E36s? It probably depends on the thickness of the wheel,
what about OEM BMW 15" wheels? Are OEM 16" any thicker?

Thanks in advance,
Pavel




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