The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 200 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: BMW Related eBay Stuff Re: Z3 / M Coupe Subframe Tearing ??? Re: Updating the toolbox Re: smog test Re: e39 FACTORY UPDATE- COMPLETED Re: Z3 / M Coupe Subframe Tearing ??? Re: accident: I got whacked [FS] 1987 M6 Virginia Re: Smog Check Re: Smog Check Re: Smog Check Re: Smog Check Re: Car rentals Re: E30 Differential ratios - M42 motor Re: Updating the toolbox
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 06:57:48 -0700 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: BMW Related eBay Stuff Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I found an old E21 320i front license plate bracket and a ///M logo front license plate and put them up on eBay with starting bids of $0.25 to pass them along to someone that might want them. The front plate (Item # 2478957697 ) is currently at $0.25 but the plate bracket ( item # 2478957969 )has been bid up over $11. Click the other auctions button to see other stuff I would rather sell to a good home for $0.25 rather than throw out (like a new baseball cap and mug I got from a client with the Barber Motorsport Park in Alabama logo). Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:13:05 -0400 (EDT) From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Z3 / M Coupe Subframe Tearing ??? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > As recently reported on M Coupe web site http://www.368s.com : > > "There have been a number of reports of the subframe and/or differential > tearing in Coupes and Roadsters. While the cause is not completely this has happened to a few local people - one with a M roadster, one with a regular z3.. both are very aggressive drivers and like to race mustangs et al.. not sure if that is related :) chris pawlowicz '99 Z3 2.8 '89 325i ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:37:51 -0400 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Updating the toolbox Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Also, a 6 mm allen key for the rotor set screws, and stock a couple spare set screws. Marc plante E36 325i (for sale) E36 M3/4 Vienna, VA -----Original Message----- From: Pavel Tcholakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:25:39 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Updating the toolbox 7 mm allen key for the brakes (btw why is it so difficult to find this one?). I think there's also another funny-sized allen key used for the gearbox and diff drain/fill plugs, I think 14 mm but not sure. P On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 08:40:03AM -0400, Steve.Goldstein wrote: > I have a relatively complete E30-focused toolbox at > the moment, with wrenches and sockets of 8, 10, 12, > 13, 14, 17, and 19mm plus special items like the 5mm > allen driver for rotor screws and a 36mm socket for > front wheel bearings. > > I also have an E36 that's now out of warranty, so > this perhaps provides an excuse to buy new tools. > Are there any particular common sizes I should consider? > I'm not up for swapping transmissions or engine rebuilds, > but shocks, rotors, brakes, fluid changes, and other > routine maintenance are in my league. > > Thanks! > > steve > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Sent using my BlackBerry 6510 from Nextel...Internet, email, phone and Direct Connect on one device ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:43:19 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: smog test Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Area. BUT if you have a all time 4wd it doesn't go on the rolling road. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay Schwegmann Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] smog test ___________ snip ____________ > Rolling road tests capture transient conditions. Steady state is very easy > to pass. > Gary Derian > > > > > SMOG check II is done on a rolling road. The SF Bay area went to smog > > II this year due to complaints that all the pollution from the Bay area > > was blowing into the central valley. It's supposed to be a more > > accurate check of emission than Smog I > > > > Marco I get the rolling test... but I didn't have that done to my car last week when it was smogged. Why are some cars put on the dyno and others not? Area? Age of vehicle? It's not clear to me what makes one car have to be put on the dyno and others not.... FWIW there ain't "that" much pollution from us coastal monkeys... er tree huggers... whatever. Jay Schwegmann 94 325is 95 318i 74 914 (maybe where the smog comes from) Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:44:35 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: e39 FACTORY UPDATE- COMPLETED Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Donna, what years is it for? I guess you're my service advisor. We bought the car at BMW Fremont ;-) 2001 540i. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dlseeley Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 4:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] e39 FACTORY UPDATE- COMPLETED Dennis, This is a factory update - no cost to you. Just call ahead to make sure the part is in stock and schedule the work. Donna Service Advisor, BMW of Fremont (Calif.) Dennis Liu wrote: > Norman, I presume this is NOT a factory recall, and if we have it done to > our cars, we'll have to pay for it? Or is BMW offering some sort of > accomodation? > > thx, > > --Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lieb923 > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:22 PM > To: BMW e39; UUC GARAGE; UUC DIGEST > Subject: [UUC] e39 FACTORY UPDATE- COMPLETED > > > OK boys & girls here is the lowdown as I know it. Bracketed comments are > mine. > On certain e39 (model run unknown to me) there is an "Update" aka recall to > reinforce the area I would call the spring perch. BMW calls them "spring > clips" They are beefy aluminum castings which sit on the outboard side of > the front strut. They clamp to the front strut and under the spring. There > is a notch in the spring perch where the casting fits. > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:45:49 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Z3 / M Coupe Subframe Tearing ??? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On May 21, 2004, at 3:51 AM, Dave Meyer wrote: > As recently reported on M Coupe web site http://www.368s.com : > > "There have been a number of reports of the subframe and/or > differential > tearing in Coupes and Roadsters. While the cause is not completely > known, it's clear that the separation issue is affecting a number of > owners." > > Is this an isolated occurance, something that will happen to all Z3's > eventually, entirely dependent on usage, or what? Does anyone have > any further insight? Thank you very much! I know of a couple of cars that this has happened to. http://www.tcdesignfab.com/M%20Roadster.htm - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:51:35 -0400 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: accident: I got whacked Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why wouldn't you just go to the dealer, buy a new tail light assembly and persue a claim against the Toyota? You can then submit a bill to your insurance company for the replaced part (along with all the body work etc). That is what I did and they had no trouble with it. I told them I was not going to drive around with a smashed tail light, and I replaced it immediately following the incident (the whole rear of the car was swiped by a pickup truck). -Jusitn -- '76 02 '97 m3 bmw cca checkout http://www.bmw2002.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 11:53:55 -0400 From: "Endersbee, David M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FS] 1987 M6 Virginia Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have put my M6 on fleabay. I'm moving out to the boondocks (Manassas, for you DC/NoVA people) and need a car that can get me on HOV. Since I'm sure any attempt to link it will be foiled when it wraps, it is item number 2479351440. Please feel free to bid early and bid often :) Dave www.drones-club.net ============================================================ The contents of this message, together with any attachments, are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed and may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message, or any attachment, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender or the Pillsbury Winthrop Help Desk at Tel: 800-477-0770 x4860 immediately by telephone or by return E-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. ============================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:04:57 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Smog Check Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jay, recently having passed CA smog, asks: >Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 18:42:22 -0700 >From: "Jay Schwegmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Smog Check >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Scott, > >I just had my 95 325is smogged here in Monterey. I didn't have to it put on >a dyno... and it passed with ease BTW. > >Why was it on the dyno? Age? > >Confused... > >Jay Schwegmann >94 325is >95 318i >74 914 >& other stuff Ha! Age (neither mine nor the car's) has nothing to do with it. The reason is very simple, one word: Politics. /rant on/ 1. CA has as smog check program to satisfy the Feds so we can get Federal Highway money. Many years ago, after much arguing and negotiating between California politicians and the Federal EPA's burearcracy, they established the stationary, once-every-two-years program which has been in place now for a couple of decades or so. 2. The EPA was not happy that many CA cities still had dirty air. Never mind that automobiles were not the only source, they were an easy target. Again being blackmailed by Federal burearcrats threatening to withhold our highway funds, the state's politicians voted for a tougher Smog Check 2 program for the places where the air was the most polluted. This program tests the car while it is being "driven" on a dyno, and the test now catches some cars that were marginal but barely passed in the stationary test. 3. The Bay Area's air was not all that dirty, so we didn't have to do the Smog Check 2 program. But Sacramento and the cities in the Central Valley had dirty air, and they claimed that it was being blown their way from the Bay Area, where we usually have afternoon breezes. So again ignoring scientific explanations that this was not going to help the Central Valley folks, the politicians voted to put the Bay Area under Smog Check 2. That is why this is the first time I've had to get my car smogged on a dyno. Meanwhile, factories and other stationary pollution sources play games where they make some insignificant side concessions in exchange for credits that let them pollute from their main business. If they allowed car owners to do this, it would go something like this: I ride BART to work most of the time, so I get public transportation credts which allow me to remove all smog controls from my car. I may only drive it 8K miles a year, but I can then dump 8 times the pollution (unscientific WAG) into the air. So you may not have Smog Check 2 dyno-based smog checks in the Monterey area now, but don't worry, it's coming. Just wait until Merced claims that Monterey County is responsible for all their smog. /rant off/ Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:19:31 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Smog Check Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cat's for lawn mowers and leaf blowers aren't far off. I've heard of proposals for banning charcoal grills or at least the lighter fuel. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Smog Check Jay, recently having passed CA smog, asks: >Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 18:42:22 -0700 >From: "Jay Schwegmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Smog Check >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Scott, > >I just had my 95 325is smogged here in Monterey. I didn't have to it put on >a dyno... and it passed with ease BTW. > >Why was it on the dyno? Age? > >Confused... > >Jay Schwegmann >94 325is >95 318i >74 914 >& other stuff Ha! Age (neither mine nor the car's) has nothing to do with it. The reason is very simple, one word: Politics. /rant on/ 1. CA has as smog check program to satisfy the Feds so we can get Federal Highway money. Many years ago, after much arguing and negotiating between California politicians and the Federal EPA's burearcracy, they established the stationary, once-every-two-years program which has been in place now for a couple of decades or so. 2. The EPA was not happy that many CA cities still had dirty air. Never mind that automobiles were not the only source, they were an easy target. Again being blackmailed by Federal burearcrats threatening to withhold our highway funds, the state's politicians voted for a tougher Smog Check 2 program for the places where the air was the most polluted. This program tests the car while it is being "driven" on a dyno, and the test now catches some cars that were marginal but barely passed in the stationary test. 3. The Bay Area's air was not all that dirty, so we didn't have to do the Smog Check 2 program. But Sacramento and the cities in the Central Valley had dirty air, and they claimed that it was being blown their way from the Bay Area, where we usually have afternoon breezes. So again ignoring scientific explanations that this was not going to help the Central Valley folks, the politicians voted to put the Bay Area under Smog Check 2. That is why this is the first time I've had to get my car smogged on a dyno. Meanwhile, factories and other stationary pollution sources play games where they make some insignificant side concessions in exchange for credits that let them pollute from their main business. If they allowed car owners to do this, it would go something like this: I ride BART to work most of the time, so I get public transportation credts which allow me to remove all smog controls from my car. I may only drive it 8K miles a year, but I can then dump 8 times the pollution (unscientific WAG) into the air. So you may not have Smog Check 2 dyno-based smog checks in the Monterey area now, but don't worry, it's coming. Just wait until Merced claims that Monterey County is responsible for all their smog. /rant off/ Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:37:55 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Smog Check Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On May 21, 2004, at 9:19 AM, Marco Romani wrote: > cat's for lawn mowers and leaf blowers aren't far off. I've heard of > proposals for banning charcoal grills or at least the lighter fuel. Hell, even my diesel truck has a cat now. They have banned many woodburning fireplaces in Santa Clara Valley (even the California Pizza Kitchen at Valley Fair needed to convert to a gas oven). In Saratoga and I think Los Altos, if you remodel a room with a woodburning fireplace you must convert it to gas. Nice. - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list) Subject: Re: Smog Check Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >1. CA has as smog check program to satisfy the Feds so we can get Federal >Highway money. Many years ago, after much arguing and negotiating between >California politicians and the Federal EPA's burearcracy, they established >the stationary, once-every-two-years program which has been in place now >for a couple of decades or so. We here in Massachusetts have been dealing with that stupid dyno test for years here. All cars newer than 70something, every other year or on ownership change. Welcome to the club. Strangely, MA is preparing to go away from the dyno/gas sniffer tests. The next test on the horizon is a simple OBDII check. Plug in and ask the computer how the car is doing. Faster and more accurate they say. I can't wait until the dynos go away and my pre OBDII car goes in for an inspection... >2. The EPA was not happy that many CA cities still had dirty air. Never >mind that automobiles were not the only source, they were an easy target. >Again being blackmailed by Federal burearcrats threatening to withhold our >highway funds, the state's politicians voted for a tougher Smog Check 2 >program for the places where the air was the most polluted. This program >tests the car while it is being "driven" on a dyno, and the test now >catches some cars that were marginal but barely passed in the stationary >test. Yep. Had to replace my catalyst (which has now taken to buzzing at 2k, grrr) because the NOx would spike when the monkey driving changed gears...poorly. I would have passed the 2 speed idle tests just fine. The test before, they nearly over heated my car because they didn't put the fan in front of the engine while "driving" up and down hills at 45mph on the dyno. Did I mention that I hate the inspections? I keep my car in better running order than many of the smoking, squeaking, dripping cars out here, but I dread that test. -- Joe -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:24:24 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Car rentals Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Clarence, here is a place that rents cars that are out of the ordinary: http://www.specialtyrentals.com/ No affiliation, and I've never used them before. Or for something, as Monty Python used to say, completely different: Rent-A-Wreck (415) 282-6293� 2955 3rd St San Francisco, CA http://209.251.41.220/LANSAIMG/RAP/FRANCHISE/thirdst/thirdst.htm I haven't used them either, although I've been tempted. HTH, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:48:07 -0500 >From: "Roberts, Clarence H Mr TACOM-RI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "UUC Digest (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Car rentals >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I will be flying in for a San Francisco-Gold Rush Country trip planned for >the Memorial Day Holiday weekend and would like to drive something besides >the usual rent-a-car. No Ferraris, just something interesting. Any >recommendations for out of the ordinary car rental firms in SF? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:28:06 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 Differential ratios - M42 motor Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve, do you want a lower (higher numerically) or higher (lower numerically) ratio? I'm pretty sure your car uses the small case diff, as opposed to the medium case diff for the six cylinder E30s. I don't know of any reason why you couldn't use a medium case diff, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the side flange bolt pattern is the same. It does weigh about 20 pounds more. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:47:13 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: E30 Differential ratios - M42 motor >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Speaking of diffs.. > >My '91 318is has the 4.10LS. What other options exist for >this car? I believe the M42 car diffs aren't the same size >as those for the 6-cylinders. > >Thanks. > >steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:37:57 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Updating the toolbox Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 5/21/04 8:57 AM, "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a relatively complete E30-focused toolbox at > the moment, with wrenches and sockets of 8, 10, 12, > 13, 14, 17, and 19mm plus special items like the 5mm > allen driver for rotor screws and a 36mm socket for > front wheel bearings. > > I also have an E36 that's now out of warranty, so > this perhaps provides an excuse to buy new tools. > Are there any particular common sizes I should consider? There's been an evolution over time to smaller standard bolt head and nut sizes. Some of those that are 17mm and 19mm on older vehicles are now 16mm and 18mm on the E36, so you definitely need to add those. E36 brake caliper bleed screws are 7mm. Depending on what sort of stuff you care to get into, 21mm, 22mm and 24mm can be required, plus a set of T (Torx) and E sockets. Then there's that ever-popular 32mm thin wrench to remove the viscous fan clutch; it is also needed for the inner ends of E36 tie-rods. In my experience it's a false economy to pare down your tool selection to just specific sizes. Inevitably you end up needing some other size and it's 11pm on Sunday night, or else your car is up on jack stands and you don't have anything else to use to go to the store. Ask me how I know! Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
