The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 311 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: M coupe questions Re: M coupe questions Re: M coupe questions Re: M coupe questions head clearance, BMWs of the rich and famous? was Re: M coupe questions Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Quick E38 oil filter question Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Softening your rubber(s) Re: Softening your rubber(s)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:23:17 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M coupe questions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No sunroof means about 1.5" of extra headroom. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > So, one thing I learned is that the sunroof actually isn't a sunroof. It's > just a pop-up. With that in mind, do the models without that have noticeably > more headroom? One thing that did worry me is the fact that my head was > very close to the roof, and I kinda doubt I could fit in the car with a > helmet on. I can't imagine BMW making a car a 6+ footer can't sit in..... > > Thanks, > Lee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 8/9/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:42:33 -0400 (EDT) From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M coupe questions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brett wrote : > No sunroof means about 1.5" of extra headroom. how is this the case ? in my coupe the only thing between the top of my helmet & the outside of the car was the glass of the roof, which is obviously quite thin. perhaps not as thin as the sheetmetal/headliner thickness, but not a whole 1.5". without the sliding tracks on the sides of the opening which a normal roof has the only realy downside to the roof is that it lets the car get hot in the sun. it actually helps to make the car less cramped feeling. I think there are a couple of people who make little covers you can put over them as well if you live somewhere with a lot of sun... I fit into my coupe well enough to drive it on track w/o issues. I do recall my helmet rubbing a bit on the gimp which goes around the sunroof opening, but it was on the left side. for reference, I'm just under 6'2" w/~34" inseam. you could also get extra headroom & legroom by replacing the stock seat with a race seat. (would save a lot of weight too since it's powered) there's probably space to be gained by removing some of the carpet behind the seat as well, but the configuration of the bulkhead between the seats. it's all likely a bit academic tho, as the ratio of sunroof to non-sunroof is probably something like 10-1. I suspect that the only cars which were ordered without sunroofs were for people like Kathy who planned to race/auto-x the cars. they're also the people likely to keep their cars. tho Kathy's car is/was for sale at some point in the recent past... Ben > -----Original Message----- > So, one thing I learned is that the sunroof actually isn't a sunroof. It's > just a pop-up. With that in mind, do the models without that have noticeably > more headroom? One thing that did worry me is the fact that my head was > very close to the roof, and I kinda doubt I could fit in the car with a > helmet on. I can't imagine BMW making a car a 6+ footer can't sit in..... ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:41:57 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUCDigest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M coupe questions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ahhhh, so an M coupe with no sunroof it is........ I think the whole problem stems from the fact that the M coupe is deisgned from a car that was originally intended to have nearly infinite headroom...... Thanks, Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett Anderson > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:23 > To: UUC Digest > Subject: Re: [UUC] M coupe questions > > > No sunroof means about 1.5" of extra headroom. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > So, one thing I learned is that the sunroof actually isn't > a sunroof. It's > > just a pop-up. With that in mind, do the models without that have > noticeably > > more headroom? One thing that did worry me is the fact > that my head was > > very close to the roof, and I kinda doubt I could fit in > the car with a > > helmet on. I can't imagine BMW making a car a 6+ footer > can't sit in..... > > > > Thanks, > > Lee > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 8/9/2004 > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M coupe questions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett wrote : > > > No sunroof means about 1.5" of extra headroom. > > how is this the case ? in my coupe the only thing between > the top of my helmet & the outside of the car was the > glass of the roof, which is obviously quite thin. perhaps > not as thin as the sheetmetal/headliner thickness, but > not a whole 1.5". without the sliding tracks on the sides > of the opening which a normal roof has the only realy > downside to the roof is that it lets the car get hot in the > sun. it actually helps to make the car less cramped feeling. > I think there are a couple of people who make little covers > you can put over them as well if you live somewhere > with a lot of sun... Because, most normal people don't drive with their head centered under the sunroof, therefore, their head hits where the ceiling/guides/sunroof mechanisms reside. I know that there is every bit of a 1" difference in the E36 M3 if not more... Besides, you have that whole "Detroit Lean" thing going on where you live, so you aren't nearly as concerned about headroom... ;-) Later, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:46:25 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: head clearance, BMWs of the rich and famous? was Re: M coupe questions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not the first time. In the mid-eighties when I at a dealership, NY Knicks center James Baily came in to check out a new bimmer. All of them were too small for him. Kinda funny seeing him try to sit in a 325. But I remember when I worked NJ Nets games in college, I saw many players drove Mercedes', so not all the German manufacturers are innatentive to taller drivers dimensions. I remember some Net player called 'Super John' had what to a college kid in a ratty 2002 looked like the sweetest Mercedes in the world. Has there been a thread yet on BMW's of the rich and famous? Barry Robinson, Lee wrote: >So, one thing I learned is that the sunroof actually isn't a sunroof. It's >just a pop-up. With that in mind, do the models without that have noticably >more headroom? One thing that did worry me is the fact that my head was >very close to the roof, and I kinda doubt I could fit in the car with a >helmet on. I can't imagine BMW making a car a 6+ footer can't sit in..... >Thanks,Lee > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:21:24 -0400 From: "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Follow up question about going to aftermarket wheel, say a momo fighter. First the real stupid question, this is outside diameter, right? I have an e28 M5 and I haven't measured yet, but how hard is it to get used to the smaller wheel and, just as important, what about all those extra knubs? What are they for and are they hard to get used to? $300 for something that you use the entire time while in the car seems fair to me. Thanks, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Follow up question about going to aftermarket wheel, say a momo > fighter. > First the real stupid question, this is outside diameter, right? Yes, the Momo is 350mm or 13.8". > smaller wheel and, just as important, what about all those extra > knubs? What knubs? It just looks like some sort of anatomic steering wheel to me. I can't stand regular steering wheels anymore, I like suede ones even on the street. One of those E46 PP ones in alcantara would be poifect for me except it's probably too large. I like the 350mm wheels, just right for me, Sparco makes some even smaller ones but they're too small (Ben has one). Carlos. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:02:56 -0400 From: "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Carlos Lopez'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe knubs isn't the right word. The bumps on the inside of the wheel at about 9:30 and 2:30. There is a tiny set on the exterior at about 4 and 8, more pronounced on the 'competition' model. -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:48 AM To: Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter --- "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Follow up question about going to aftermarket wheel, say a momo > fighter. First the real stupid question, this is outside diameter, > right? Yes, the Momo is 350mm or 13.8". > smaller wheel and, just as important, what about all those extra > knubs? What knubs? It just looks like some sort of anatomic steering wheel to me. I can't stand regular steering wheels anymore, I like suede ones even on the street. One of those E46 PP ones in alcantara would be poifect for me except it's probably too large. I like the 350mm wheels, just right for me, Sparco makes some even smaller ones but they're too small (Ben has one). Carlos. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:20:02 -0400 From: "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Tom Reynolds'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I hate to be ignorant, but I'm not sure if has one or not. It doesn't say 'air bag' anywhere on the wheel, which I know our '92 maxima has. I'm not sure about out Pilot. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:53 PM To: Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Just remember, if you're replacing your airbag equipped OEM wheel with another wheel, if it doesn't have an airbag, your insurance company might be able to deny coverage (and maybe worse) if you're in a situation where the bag _should_ have exploded. If the wheel you're considering is airbag equipped, then "never mind." Tom Reynolds Hereford, AZ At 11:21 AM 08/12/2004 -0400, Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR wrote: > > >Follow up question about going to aftermarket wheel, say a momo >fighter. First the real stupid question, this is outside diameter, >right? I have an e28 M5 and I haven't measured yet, but how hard is it >to get used to the smaller wheel and, just as important, what about all >those extra knubs? What are they for and are they hard to get used to? >$300 for something that you use the entire time while in the car seems >fair to me. > >Thanks, >Peter > >Search the >ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_______________________________________________________________________ >___ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . >http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.728 / Virus Database: 483 - Release Date: 07/27/2004 > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:44:28 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Quick E38 oil filter question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can someone tell me if an oil filter for a '95 E38 (4.0L) will also fit a 2001 E38 (4.4L)? Thanks! vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:18:26 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:02 AM 8/12/04, Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR talked about: >Maybe knubs isn't the right word. The bumps on the inside of the wheel at >about 9:30 and 2:30. Those act as thumb guides, helping you keep your hands at 9 & 3, where they belong :-) >There is a tiny set on the exterior at about 4 and 8, >more pronounced on the 'competition' model. Probably as a result of contouring for the palm of your hand(?). Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - stock wheel, for now 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - comfy suede Sparco wheel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:52:44 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just remember, if you're replacing your airbag equipped OEM wheel with another wheel, if it doesn't have an airbag, your insurance company might be able to deny coverage (and maybe worse) if you're in a situation where the bag _should_ have exploded. If the wheel you're considering is airbag equipped, then "never mind." Tom Reynolds Hereford, AZ At 11:21 AM 08/12/2004 -0400, Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR wrote: > > >Follow up question about going to aftermarket wheel, say a momo fighter. >First the real stupid question, this is outside diameter, right? I have an >e28 M5 and I haven't measured yet, but how hard is it to get used to the >smaller wheel and, just as important, what about all those extra knubs? >What are they for and are they hard to get used to? $300 for something that >you use the entire time while in the car seems fair to me. > >Thanks, >Peter > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.728 / Virus Database: 483 - Release Date: 07/27/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.728 / Virus Database: 483 - Release Date: 07/27/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:32:24 -0700 From: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The slave is MUCH easier to get to, and when my hydraulics went out it was the part that failed, not the master cylinder. The master is almost impossible to get to, as the bolt that mounts it to the car is hidden behind the brake pedal. I suggest removing the slave first and checking to see if that's faulty, before moving to the master cylinder. If you find out that it is indeed the master cylinder, add some fluid, pump the pedal like a mad man to build up pressure, and drive it to the mechanic. You really don't want to do that job, trust me. - Scott > >Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:18:51 -0400 >From: "Michael Fagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: (e30) Replacing Master and Slave Clutch Cylinders >Message-ID: ><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAAFAqAgy8D0+Ecdom/PVVw8KAAAAQAAAAv/E/[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > >My 1987 325ic is currently out of commission with broken clutch >hydraulics. I have the Bentley for the car and am planning to replace >both clutch cylinders. Are there any tricks or things to be aware of in >doing this job? > >Thanks, > >Michael Fagan >1987 325ic >1991 325ica > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:29:30 -0500 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "2002digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E21 Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sixer coupe Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Angus Winskill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Arthur E Wegweiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Patzer, Dan Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Softening your rubber(s) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What has your experience been in keeping door seals , underhood seals etc soft and supple ?? BMW sells (or sold ?..rumor has it no longer available ?) stuff called Gummiflege -alt spelling Gummipflege?- for supposedly keeping things greased and tender . Anyone know what's in that stuff to make it worth the dealers asking price ?? What prompts the question is my discovery recently of a 'Merican made product that purportedly does pretty much the same thing BUT it has silicone in it -note that "e" on the end ...much slippier stuff than silicon! Called SIL-GLYDE made by American Grease Stick Co, Muskegon, Mich 49443 with a copyright date on this 8oz tube of 1972. (Viva the local flea market eh ?). Amongst all the virtues expounded on the tube it states 'harmless to rubber' but in the fine print it readeth..'observe usual prepaint procedures'..so that gives warning that Silicone is forever and paint wont stick to it . See US Patent 3,036,002 for more details . So I tried it on two of doors on my rustfree 89 750il that has had its share of sunshine here in the South .....seals weren't bad in any way to start with ...man did that stuff dress them up in a hurry !! Hafta wait a while to see if it soaks in at all , but it sure did make them look nice !! So my question is ...is there silicone in BMWs stuff too ?? Or did I just commit a cardinal sin ?? Bill Proud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:37:06 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMWBits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 2002digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, E21 Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, E9coupes BMW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Senior Six Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sixer coupe Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Angus Winskill Proud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arthur E Wegweiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Patzer, Dan Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Softening your rubber(s) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gummiphlege works. I git turned on to it by postings last fall and it took the spueekies away from the door mouldings on the E36 when raising and lowering moldings. I gave the hood, trunk and rest of the door moldings a coat of it, and after a few months they were restored to an almost as new suppleness. So I gave it a shot on one of the door side moldings to see if it woudl soak into that too, and it brought a bit of the original deeper black color back to the molding. Don't know what you're dealer's asking price is, but here its about $8.00 a tube on the marked up gotcha by the family jewels only game in town dealership parts department price list. Barry BMWBits wrote: >What has your experience been in keeping door seals , underhood seals >etc soft and supple ?? >BMW sells (or sold ?..rumor has it no longer available ?) stuff called >Gummiflege -alt spelling Gummipflege?- for supposedly keeping things >greased and tender . Anyone know what's in that stuff to make it worth >the dealers asking price ?? > >What prompts the question is my discovery recently of a 'Merican made >product that purportedly does pretty much the same thing BUT it has >silicone in it -note that "e" on the end ...much slippier stuff than >silicon! Called SIL-GLYDE made by American Grease Stick Co, Muskegon, >Mich 49443 with a copyright date on this 8oz tube of 1972. (Viva the >local flea market eh ?). Amongst all the virtues expounded on the tube >it states 'harmless to rubber' but in the fine print it >readeth..'observe usual prepaint procedures'..so that gives warning that >Silicone is forever and paint wont stick to it . See US Patent >3,036,002 for more details . > >So I tried it on two of doors on my rustfree 89 750il that has had its >share of sunshine here in the South .....seals weren't bad in any way to >start with ...man did that stuff dress them up in a hurry !! Hafta wait >a while to see if it soaks in at all , but it sure did make them look >nice !! > >So my question is ...is there silicone in BMWs stuff too ?? Or did I >just commit a cardinal sin ?? > >Bill Proud > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
