The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 309 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Loud noises ?? Speakers FS (WOB) 
  Re: running an auto-x
  $20 muffler , $30 shipping 
  Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
  [E36] Electrical gremlins in '94 325iC
  Re: "Abandon all hope, ye who drive in Boston"
  FS: 1988 535i
  Re: M coupe questions
  Re: M coupe questions
  Re: M coupe questions
  Z3 throttle body
  FS  E36 M3 6spd trans
  Re: 325iT Maintenance
  Re: 325iT Maintenance
  GGC August Autocross Cancelled

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:08:14 -0500
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "2002digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E21 Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Loud noises ?? Speakers FS (WOB) 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a brand-new in the box pair of 3 1/2" haut-parleurs (that's
Froggy for loud speakers )a montage encastre (ie 'flush-mount' ) coaxial
two-way . Pioneer TS-A878 . Defined on the box as fitting lots of mid-80
to early 90's Ford, GM and Volkswargen (op cit ) vehicules . Nominal
power 15 watt , max power 60 watt .Freq resp 60 to 29mhz..for anyone
young enough to hear up there (or keep your family's bats happy ) . 
Designed SPECIFICALLY for mounting behind existing grilles, under
dashboard-tops etc . They are just under 2" thick (deep ??) with two
mounting holes on 4 1/8" PCD . GOT to be soooo much better than the $2
specials Fritz und Klaus spec'd for your old Beemerdubblhue in days of
yore ... 
Anyone got a loose $20 bill just burning a hole in your pocket ?? ..they
weigh just over 2 lbs when packed-for figgering shipping costs to yore
dore ...from zip 38478

Speak up ..now ..LOUDER !! (see !! YOU need these LOUD speakers !! Even
for your Ford !!) 


Bill & Shirley Proud 
Seattle Summers , Tennessee Winters .
Long Commute between , 


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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:48:52 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: running an auto-x
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

thanx scott!!!  i didnt know of that yahoo group or that website...i'll
check it out, thanx!

we use the whole track, but we try not to use the drag strip, as the
guardrails have jumped out in front of a few cars...the area after the 1/4
mile is open and has a smidge of runoff room...

usually cars are spaced 25-30 seconds apart, and the goal for spacing the
cars is to have a car finishing, a car in the middle of the course, and a
car just starting...

thanx for the leads, and the tips...i'll pass them on at the meeting this
week...thanx again!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller"


> Jay, did you know that there is a Yahoo Group for BMW CCA autocross
> organizers?

> Also, there is a new message board for BMW autocross:
>
> www.bmwautocross.com

 Are you allowed to use the whole
> track, or only the drag strip?  I would imagine that you are limited
> to one car at a time on course because the track is so narrow?


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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:08:50 -0500
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "2002digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E21 Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Sixer coupe Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: $20 muffler , $30 shipping 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=79148
96216&category=33636

Anyone done business with these folks ? ...If it is stainless (LOUD
??..no mention of the innards ..fiberglass wool packing ?) it might be
worth trying as a cheap fix .
Comments off digest pls ... 

Bill & Shirley Proud 
Seattle Summers , Tennessee Winters .
Long Commute between , 


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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:20:43 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Update, sorry, the URL should have read;
http://home.earthlink.net/~kjtar/2002tii.html

Confused,
Tom Reynolds
Hereford, AZ


Hi Paul,
        Actually no.  My wife had a '79 320i for a few years until it was
involved in an accident and was never the same, she sold it.  Then a few
years ago, I got a '73 2002tii from Sidney Island, Vancouver, BC, autoxed
it and promptly broke the control arms, had them fixed, then sold the car
to a guy in SF.
Best,
Tom
http://www.tomandkarenspage.com/2002tii.html

At 11:23 PM 08/09/2004 -0500, Paul Garnier wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>Is this (will it be?) your 1st BMW?
>
>Paul A. Garnier
>
>We spoke about my 95 M3 you expressed some interest in...
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:16 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [UUC] <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
>
>
>Hello listers,
>        I've been on the list for a while and am looking for an E36, I
>guess preferably a coupe with Sports package.  A couple weeks ago I
>noticed a BMW at a dealership in town, stopped in and took a look, but
>didn't take it out for a test drive at that time.  So, today I stopped
>in to talk to the sales guy I'd talked to previously and take the car
>out for a test drive.  
>        Well, he didn't come in today, so I got a brand new guy.  (This
>is in Sierra Vista, AZ, btw, town of about 40k people, no BMW dealership
>there, closest one is Don Mackey BMW in Tucson, about 70 miles away.)
>The car was at another one of their dealerships, so he had to go
>retrieve it. Once the car got there, while he was doing paperwork and
>making a copy of my license, I opened up the hood (engine and all looked
>clean, but not steam cleaned clean) and I couldn't find the remote trunk
>release (where is
>it?) but I got in the car and started adjusting the seat.  
>        To me, the car had a good amount of power (torque) and the
>clutch and shifter felt good to me.  Nice clutch feel (not too heavy not
>too
>light) and the shifter throws felt short enough and positive, (I didn't
>miss a shift and I didn't kill it, so you know something had to be
>right.)
>        I didn't have the occasion to throw the car around any corners,
>but the steering felt responsive without being twitchy, I was pleased
>with that.  And, with my driving position saved, I ventured into the
>back seat behind the driver and there was enough room for another "me
>sized" person to sit comfortably with room to move my feet around a bit.
>The leather on the seats seemed a bit hard, but of course that's only
>specific for this particular car.  The radio seemed a bit daunting, but
>I guess some time with the manual would explain my questions, as well as
>the climate control system.  All in all, it was an enjoyable experience,
>I'm still kind of worried about subframe and engine mount, etc.
>failures.  Other than that, I'd probably be just about ready to buy.
>Any other owner impressions out there?  Am I off base, on base, in the
>ballpark...? Best regards, Tom Reynolds Hereford, AZ P.S.  I think the
>car I drove had around 33k miles, was as mentioned, a '99 323iS with the
>Sports package.  
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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>
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:12:55 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [E36] Electrical gremlins in '94 325iC
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all,

Anyone have a Bentley handy that can see if there is some diagnostic 
for the ABS warning lights, especially any connection to the stereo? 
My wife's car has been having an intermittent ABS light, with no 
real pattern.This has happened maybe 4 or 5 times over the last 
week, but never with me in the car - of course. Last night, the ABS 
light came on while she was driving home, but went off on the way. 
It usually resets when she turns the car off and back on. This 
morning, instead of an ABS light, the stereo went out. No radio, no 
tape, no sound at all. She turned the car off and back on, and all 
was back to normal. No other lights, controls, or functions seem to 
be affected. Thanks in advance for any advice!

David in Nashville



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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Abandon all hope, ye who drive in Boston"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Tourism expert Parker Smith of Scottsdale, Ariz., 
says cities can help
visitors by investing in signs to identify 
airports, downtowns and other
popular destinations. Local sign committees 
should look at their communities
as a tourist or business traveler would, and 
adjust signs accordingly, he
says.
====================================================
Forget it! We Bostonians are proud of our f***ed up
roads and it's a point of honor not to have road signs
which make any sense. Why do you think we have had two
tunnels connecting the city to the airport, the Sumner
goes Southwest, the Callahan goes Northeast. Any
number of visitors have been stuck for weeks trying to
get to the airport by the Sumner Tunnel, the way they
came in. Remember the Kingston Trio song about the guy
who couldn't get off the trolley....?

Jon<----lived here for 35 years, it took most of that
time to find my way around.



                
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:07:27 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FS: 1988 535i
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

1988 BMW 535i   5 speed     179,XXX miles
Black with Pearl (tan) interior, build date 10/87.

Please forgive the cross posting, and sorry if this posts twice - I tried 
yesterday and have not seen it on the list yet.  The time has come for me to 
part with my faithful fiver. 

I�ve owned this car for about 4 years, as the 4th owner, and the 3rd owner is a 
friend.  I have put about 30K miles on during those 4 years.  This is a great 
running, great looking, honest, clean E28 fiver.   Since I have had the car the 
following items have been done:

New front calipers and pads, just done
New cat back exhaust � stock Bosal
New fuel pressure regulator
New rubber fuel lines in engine compartment
New injector O-Rings
New Boge gas shocks and struts
New 215/60/15 Dunlop SP tires on E34 �Style F� type 15� bottlecap wheels (spare 
is still a TRX)
Hella conversion headlights for lows and highs
Rebuilt radiator, temperature is rock steady in this car
New thermostat
New electric antenna
UUC short shift kit
New upper control arms with Bavauto poly bushings
New front swaybar links
New power steering pump reservoir filter
New door lock �buffers�
New heater control valve
New rear window chrome trim surround
New guibo and center bearing

Following new parts included with the car � uninstalled
R134 conversion kit (not including the compressor)
Set of belts
New valve cover gasket
A couple of oil filters, fuel filter

Work done by previous owner just before I purchased the car
New clutch
New subframe bushings

This car has been well maintained, oil changed with Castrol 10-40 every 3K, and 
I have done almost all work by myself.   I have the maintenance records since 
early on.    What doesn�t work?  The A/C does not work.  R12 has leaked 
somewhere and I have not done the conversion yet, although I bought the kit.  
Both blowers work fine, although the heater blower is starting to do the 
telltale E28 squeak on low speed.  The Service Indicator lights do not work, 
because I took out the circuit board.  I got tired of the lights.    The power 
steering pump has a slow leak.  I have to top up the reservoir about every 6-8 
months, and I basically decided that I can live with it.  

The dash is in excellent condition with just two very small cracks, hard to see 
unless looking specifically for them.  The exterior paint is in what I would 
call the 10 - 15 foot class.  The car was painted below the rub strip line just 
before I bought it to clean up the lower body from the usual road grime and 
chips.  The rest of the paint is not perfect, but when she�s washed and waxed 
she really looks great and I get many compliments.

Asking $3,000.  Car is located in eastern MD.  Please contact me at:  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rgds,
Chris Whitney



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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


--- ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> wholesale for S52 M coupes is in the low 20's or
> below I believe.  at least
> that's what my '99 seemed like it was worth then I
> turned it in at the end of
> the lease w/50k in the fall of '01.  Mike Hsu here
> on the list ended up buying
> it out in California, forget what he paid.  perhaps
> values have stabilized
> since then, but I don't imagine they have too much. 
> they are pretty rare of
> course, but I still think they're relatively cheap.

Yeah, I bought Ben's car for about $24k about 1.5 year
ago.  Around now I should say an S52 should be around
very high teens to low 20's (of course depending on
mileage, condition, etc).  

BTW, the other day I saw a '97 M3 coupe for $15k
(private party).  GGeeezzzz, I think I'll try to sell
my jetta before it depreciates to nothing and get a
used M3.

Mike

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:30:30 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

FWIW:
                        Excellent (#2)  Good (#3)       Chg since last Good
1999  ZZZ Coupe $21225          $16850          -2%
         ZZZ Coupe M    $25575          $20450          -9%
2000  ZZZ Coupe $24200          $19525          -1%
         ZZZ Coupe M    $27775          $23150          -7%
2001  ZZZ Coupe $25575          $21850          -4%
         ZZZ Coupe M    $32100          $27200          -3%
2002  ZZZ Coupe $29750          $25650          Not enough data
         ZZZ Coupe M    $37750          $32550          Not enough data



(From July-August issue of CPI Value Guide)  Issues come out every 2 months.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Hereford, AZ

At 06:08 PM 08/10/2004 -0700, Mike Hsu wrote:
>
>
>--- ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> wholesale for S52 M coupes is in the low 20's or
>> below I believe.  at least
>> that's what my '99 seemed like it was worth then I
>> turned it in at the end of
>> the lease w/50k in the fall of '01.  Mike Hsu here
>> on the list ended up buying
>> it out in California, forget what he paid.  perhaps
>> values have stabilized
>> since then, but I don't imagine they have too much. 
>> they are pretty rare of
>> course, but I still think they're relatively cheap.
>
>Yeah, I bought Ben's car for about $24k about 1.5 year
>ago.  Around now I should say an S52 should be around
>very high teens to low 20's (of course depending on
>mileage, condition, etc).  
>
>BTW, the other day I saw a '97 M3 coupe for $15k
>(private party).  GGeeezzzz, I think I'll try to sell
>my jetta before it depreciates to nothing and get a
>used M3.
>
>Mike
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:39:31 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 
> Yeah, I bought Ben's car for about $24k about 1.5 year
> ago.  Around now I should say an S52 should be around
> very high teens to low 20's (of course depending on
> mileage, condition, etc).  

I haven't seen any in this price range anywhere.  Autotrader, ebay, Roundel,
wholesalers, nowhere.

This one is a 2000, 32k mile certified car, and they are asking waaaaaaay
too much--$30k.

They keep harping on the fact that it's certified.  Of course, I say I don't
care about certified & don't expect to pay extra.  This is especially true
since they told me that the first time this thing hits the track or goes to
an autocross all warranty is null & void.

Nice car though.......

> 
> BTW, the other day I saw a '97 M3 coupe for $15k
> (private party).  GGeeezzzz, I think I'll try to sell
> my jetta before it depreciates to nothing and get a
> used M3.

No crap, the E36's are getting pretty damn cheap & they're everywhere.

> 
> Mike

Lee

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:12:05 -0400
From: "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Z3 throttle body
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

previously I asked about my '99 Z3 2.8 cutting out and running really rough
with no power  (somewhat randomly) (3 times this summer so far). Stopping
the car and restarting a few minutes later and it runs fine.

OBDII code says 'misfire' (not very useful).. CE light goes away after a few
restarts.

suggestions included checking coils, oil leaks into spark plug area, and a
BMW reprogramming of the software (done on Z3's up to '99)

The reprogramming is not applicable to my car (I have the newer twin-vanos
engine) and there was nothing obvious as far as oil leaks into the plug
area.

anyways, it did it again and I took it to the dealer for them to check..
they spent a while checking it over and came up with some error codes from
the throttle body (FC#170,171)
(they explained that I have the throttle-by-wire system with a bunch of
internal electronics which seem unhappy)

So the diagnosis is I need a new throttle body (#13 54 1 433 414) for $260
plus a couple of hours labour. Bentley manual is no use (covers up to '98,
older engine).

The same part is also used in the Z3 2.3 and E46 323i and 328i (according to
ETK).. is this something I can go with used? what exactly is in the thing?
ETK picture looks pretty basic.. can I swap this out myself?

any comments appreciated

chris pawlowicz
'99 Z3 2.8 - 50k miles
'89 325i - 220k miles and original AFM and throttle still works fine..


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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:16:18 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FS  E36 M3 6spd trans
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brand new E36 Euro M3 6spd trans and clutch assembly.

Gotta get them out of inventory.

$4000 plus shipping.

List is around $5000.

Thanks

Brett Anderson
KMS




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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:45:11 -0400
From: Steve Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: BMW UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 325iT Maintenance
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brett, thanks for the feedback!  I'll update my E46
maintenance schedule.  I do have two follow-up questions
for you:

You wrote:
> A slow oxygen sensor will not set the check engine light,
> and very few people monitor their fuel economy.  Change
> the pre cat oxygen sensors at or about 100K miles.

The E46 has 4 O2 sensors...so only replace the pre-cat ones
at 100K, and leave the post-cat ones alone unless/until
they fail and set a CE?  So the post-cat sensors are just
there to check up on the pre-cat sensors?

Second question: I've always jacked the rear of the car up
using the rear subframe crossmember (passes directly under
the diff).  However, I've heard people recommend using a
point further forward of the subframe crossmember (looks
like a driveshaft collar of some sort).  But I've also
heard of people jacking from the rear diff itself.  What's
the correct way to jack the rear of an E46?

Regards,
Steve
2004 330i ZHP
2000 323i (gone)



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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 06:05:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 325iT Maintenance
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The post cat sensors check the operation of the cats. 
They dither at about 1/3 the rate of the pre cat
sensors due to the oxygen storage in the cat.

Gary Derian

--- Steve Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The E46 has 4 O2 sensors...so only replace the
> pre-cat ones
> at 100K, and leave the post-cat ones alone
> unless/until
> they fail and set a CE?  So the post-cat sensors are
> just
> there to check up on the pre-cat sensors?



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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:50:39 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GGC August Autocross Cancelled
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The August 21 Golden Gate Chapter (BMW CCA) autocross has been
cancelled.  If you have pre-registered and pre-paid, contact the
autocross coordinators regarding the status of your payment:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This means we'll have a lot more time for the excitement to build
before the September event!  And I might even have my car ready to go
by then.  Yeah, right.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA




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