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  <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  E36 Tranny options
  Re: Z3 throttle body
  Re: Z3 throttle body
  Re: Z3 throttle body
  Re: M coupe questions
  Re: M coupe questions
  E30 coolant leak - unsure of next step
  All German Car Show - Dublin, Ohio
  correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
  (e30) Replacing Master and Slave Clutch Cylinders
  Re: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
  Re: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
  Re: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:01:48 -0400
From: Thomas Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone know the diameter of the stock '94 325is steering wheel?  
Four spoke, airbag, non-M.  A buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 
buying an aftermarket wheel and I was trying to get an idea of the 
difference in diameter between the stock and the new one.  Thanks!

tom


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 07:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Thomas Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know the diameter of the stock '94 325is steering wheel?  
> Four spoke, airbag, non-M.  A buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 
> buying an aftermarket wheel and I was trying to get an idea of the 
> difference in diameter between the stock and the new one.  Thanks!

They are usually 385mm IIRC.  The factory has some 370mm options as well (with and 
without
airbags).

Regards,

Rich

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:19:11 -0400
From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E36 Tranny options
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello group,

I'm looking to replace the transmission in my '94 325i.  Every morning it
seems a little harder to shift into 3rd and 5th, plus I have the loss of
spring tension problem that many have experienced.  Anyway, I have a
potential opportunity to get the transmission from an E36 328is.  Is this
the same unit as mine?  Or even an upgrade?  Bottom line - can I use it and
do I want to?

Thanks,

Chris B.


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:51:12 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Z3 throttle body
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 8/11/04 8:46 AM, "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So the diagnosis is I need a new throttle body (#13 54 1 433 414) for $260
> plus a couple of hours labour. Bentley manual is no use (covers up to '98,
> older engine).
 
> The same part is also used in the Z3 2.3 and E46 323i and 328i (according to
> ETK).

> is this something I can go with used?

Up to you, but I'd want to know its provenance.

> what exactly is in the thing?

At its most basic the TB is a cylindrical pipe with a pivoting flap inside
which controls airflow. On older cars the flap is moved by the throttle
cable. On your drive-by-wire there's a built-in electrical actuator, maybe
some on-board electronics, and a connector to hook it up to the car's wiring
harness.

> ETK picture looks pretty basic.. can I swap this out myself?

In a heartbeat.

Neil
96 M3


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:10:42 +0000
From: "Evan A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Z3 throttle body
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Chris,

My US-Spec '99 E46 323i did _not_ have a throttle by wire, so make sure your 
dealer double checks that. Not to say that the throttle body isn't the 
culprit, just that their explanation doesn't sound correct.

HTH,
Evan
still BMW-less, but looking

--- original message ---
[snip]
anyways, it did it again and I took it to the dealer for them to check..
they spent a while checking it over and came up with some error codes from
the throttle body (FC#170,171)
(they explained that I have the throttle-by-wire system with a bunch of
internal electronics which seem unhappy)

So the diagnosis is I need a new throttle body (#13 54 1 433 414) for $260
plus a couple of hours labour. Bentley manual is no use (covers up to '98,
older engine).

The same part is also used in the Z3 2.3 and E46 323i and 328i (according to
ETK).. is this something I can go with used? what exactly is in the thing?
ETK picture looks pretty basic.. can I swap this out myself?

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:41:29 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Z3 throttle body
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes it did.

However, it was a hybrid system that also had a cable.  The cable only worked
for the last 15% of throttle application, the first 85% was fly by wire.

Brett Anderson
KMS

> -----Original Message-----
> My US-Spec '99 E46 323i did _not_ have a throttle by wire,

> Evan
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:36:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


<3rd try, the digest must not like me this week.>

Lee wrote:

> I haven't seen any in this price range anywhere.
> Autotrader, ebay, Roundel, wholesalers, nowhere.

you must not be looking very hard :-)  a quick check on
eBay found :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486741909
blue w/awful beige interior, sorta high mileage but nothing to worry too
much about, $18k buy-it-now


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486409561
black 2000, $22k, ~18 hrs left


http://cgi.ebay.com//ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486455187
goofy phoenix yellow color, but amazingly cheap for an S54 car at
$24k buy-it-now (it was).


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486330084
identical car to my ex/Mike's (silver w/black-gray) which seems to be
about normal market, maybe a bit high ($24k).


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486014798
nearly zero mileage (6k) 2000 in apparently perfect condition, $26k.



Ben

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:44:00 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So, one thing I learned is that the sunroof actually isn't a sunroof.  It's
just a pop-up.  With that in mind, do the models without that have noticably
more headroom?  One thing that did worry me is the fact that my head was
very close to the roof, and I kinda doubt I could fit in the car with a
helmet on.  I can't imagine BMW making a car a 6+ footer can't sit in.....

Thanks,
Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ben keyes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 15:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] M coupe questions
> 
> 
> 
> <3rd try, the digest must not like me this week.>
> 
> Lee wrote:
> 
> > I haven't seen any in this price range anywhere.
> > Autotrader, ebay, Roundel, wholesalers, nowhere.
> 
> you must not be looking very hard :-)  a quick check on
> eBay found :
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486741909
> blue w/awful beige interior, sorta high mileage but nothing 
> to worry too
> much about, $18k buy-it-now
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486409561
> black 2000, $22k, ~18 hrs left
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com//ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486455187
> goofy phoenix yellow color, but amazingly cheap for an S54 car at
> $24k buy-it-now (it was).
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486330084
> identical car to my ex/Mike's (silver w/black-gray) which seems to be
> about normal market, maybe a bit high ($24k).
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486014798
> nearly zero mileage (6k) 2000 in apparently perfect condition, $26k.
> 
> 
> 
> Ben
> 
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:30:12 -0400
From: "Olsen, Mike (Morse TEC Ithaca)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E30 coolant leak - unsure of next step
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi everyone,

My wife's 88 325iCA w/ almost 170K started leaking coolant over the winter.
The system worked fine last year other than a non-functioning aux. fan and a
temp gauge that would sometimes creep up a bit in traffic on hot days.  I
came back to the car after a few weeks of storage and found a puddle of
coolant under the front end.  So I let it sit.

I brought the car home almost a month ago.  It had been in storage since
December.  After it was parked for 2 weeks in my garage, I kid you not, it
decided to start leaking coolant again.  I pulled the undertray and it
appears as though the thermostat housing and water pump are relatively dry
(lot's of oil and muck under there - it's not the cleanest engine
compartment - I'm thinking maybe I need a valve cover gasket now), but I do
see coolant along the bottom of the radiator housing and it looks to be
"sweating" some drops of liquid from near the center of the engine-side of
the radiator, almost looking like severe condensation.

What's best to do?  With 17 years and 170K, am I beyond the replacement
window on a radiator anyway and I should replace it as a matter of course?
Pull it and get it tested?  Other tests I can do at home?  I know anything
is possible, but within the last 20K the water pump, thermostat, and hoses
have been replaced.  I'd hate to pull those tranny lines any more than
needed.  The car did run hotter than normal on the trip home, but I'm
thinking that may have been due to a low coolant level.  I did have someone
follow me on the trip home and didn't see any smoke out the back and the oil
dipstick looks fine, so I have no reason to believe a head gasket is an
issue here.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.  As an aside I'm also working on a fuel leak
which was diagnosed last night as being in the hard supply line a few inches
forward of the rubber hose from the filter and an exhaust replacement that
will have to include a new bracket at the spare tire housing as the original
hook is gone and I had to do a bailing wire emergency fix around the bumper
strut to keep the rear of the muffler from dragging.  Hence that late launch
this season, but she's still hoping for some open air time before winter and
I hope to deliver!

Thanks,
Mike Olsen
98 540i-6
88 M3 Henna
88 325iCA multiple systems down for now, but hopefully not for much
longer...

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:11:18 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: All German Car Show - Dublin, Ohio
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No affiliation, just saw it on another list�.
Bill Wade
'88 M3 Hennarot

3rd Annual All German Car Show Sunday, 
August 22 from 11:00am to 3:00pm Held at the Clarion Hotel (formerly the Wyndham 
Hotel) 600 Metro Place North, Dublin, Ohio www.choicehotels.com (put Dublin Ohio into 
the QuickSearch tool) 
Sponsored by Crown Eurocars Mercedes-Benz of Dublin, Ohio. 
Hosted by the Mercedes-Benz Club of America, Central Ohio Section. 
Proceeds and donations go to our charity, Pilot Dogs, Inc. (www.pilotdogs.org) 
Come see classic and modern vehicles of German manufacture including Audi, BMW, 
Karmann-Ghia, Mercedes-Benz, Merkur, Opel, Porsche, and Volkswagen. 
Free admission to the viewing public. Donations to the charity are welcome. 
Vehicle display fee: $10 pre-registered, $15 day of the show. 
Displayed vehicles may participate in the Clean Car Contest at no added cost. 
Use the contact information below to pre-register your vehicle. Pre-registration ends 
Sunday, August 15. Participating vehicles should park between 8:00am and 11:00am. 
The show opens to the public at 11:00am, judging begins at 12:00pm. 
Three trophies awarded per marquee. Awards ceremony at 3:00pm. Volunteers are needed 
to help judge the Clean Car Contest. 
To volunteer, please use the contact information below. 
Special room rates are available at the Clarion for car show participants who register 
by July 31. 
Three water hoses will be available for participants to clean their cars for the 
contest. Please bring your own cleaning supplies. A photographer will be on hand to 
provide professional photos. 
The hotel is providing a food & drink concession stand. 
A full service restaurant is located in the hotel. 
Coolers are welcome, but no alcohol please. 
Registration and Contact Information 
Phone: 740.881.0159 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:57:41 -0700
From: Dave Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


What is the correct method of tightening the bolts that secure the rear 
control arms on a E30? I did not see anything in the Bentley on the correct 
torque for the bolts that attach the arms to the sub-frame. How tight should 
those bolts/nuts be?

Thanks,
Dave

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:18:51 -0400
From: "Michael Fagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (e30) Replacing Master and Slave Clutch Cylinders
Message-ID: 
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My 1987 325ic is currently out of commission with broken clutch
hydraulics.  I have the Bentley for the car and am planning to replace
both clutch cylinders.  Are there any tricks or things to be aware of in
doing this job?

Thanks,

Michael Fagan
1987 325ic
1991 325ica



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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Every reuseable bolt should be tightened to 1.5%
stretch.
Gary Derian

--- Dave Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> What is the correct method of tightening the bolts
> that secure the rear 
> control arms on a E30? I did not see anything in the
> Bentley on the correct 
> torque for the bolts that attach the arms to the
> sub-frame. How tight should 
> those bolts/nuts be?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every reuseable bolt should be tightened to 1.5%
> stretch.
> Gary Derian

FWIW the right side outboard one loosened up in my 325is and was
causing a clanging noise so I just tightened the crap out of it.  I
believe I achieved 1.465% stretch or goodenteit which I consider the
same thing.  :-)

Carlos
88 325is
93 325is


                
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: correct method to bolt on E30 rear control arms?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Crap free bolts are highly regarded.  They
automatically pass the lake test.
Gary Derian

--- Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW the right side outboard one loosened up in my
> 325is and was
> causing a clanging noise so I just tightened the
> crap out of it.  I
> believe I achieved 1.465% stretch or goodenteit
> which I consider the
> same thing.  :-)
> 
> Carlos
> 88 325is
> 93 325is
> 
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