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  Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
  Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
  Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
  Re: FW: E36 'Brake Light Circuit' message
  Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
  Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
  Ant infestation
  Re: Ant infestation
  Re: Ant infestation
  Re: Ant infestation
  Re: Ant infestation
  Re: Ant infestation
  Re: Ant infestation
  Re: FW: E36 'Brake Light Circuit' message
  E30 rear anti-sway bar

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, I used VDO gauges (80psi oil pressure) and a JTD block.  The
> gauges 
> are mounted in a custom plate where the center air vent/radio/HVAC 
> controls used to be.  I used the Eastern Motorwerks wiring harness, 
> which was much easier than fabricating one myself.

The street car one or the race car one?  I wondered if it's worth the
$50 or whatever it costs from them vs buying wire, connectors, maybe a
little soldering and doing it yourself.  Isn't that half the fun?  :-)

Carlos.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:42:08 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sep 23, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Carlos Lopez wrote:
>> Oh, I used VDO gauges (80psi oil pressure) and a JTD block.  The
>> gauges
>> are mounted in a custom plate where the center air vent/radio/HVAC
>> controls used to be.  I used the Eastern Motorwerks wiring harness,
>> which was much easier than fabricating one myself.
>
> The street car one or the race car one?

Street car, as far as I know.

> I wondered if it's worth the $50 or whatever it costs from them vs 
> buying wire, connectors, maybe a little soldering and doing it 
> yourself.

Depends on what you like doing.  I don't like soldering.  :)

> Isn't that half the fun?  :-)
>

No.  :)

- Mark


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:12:10 -0700
From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 09:39 AM 9/23/2004, Carlos Lopez wrote:

>The street car one or the race car one?  I wondered if it's worth the
>$50 or whatever it costs from them vs buying wire, connectors, maybe a
>little soldering and doing it yourself.  Isn't that half the fun?  :-)

Depends on whether or not you have the proper skills and tools for the 
task.  I've seen a lot of people take the DIY approach to wiring, ending up 
with gauges that drop out occasionally, lighting that flickers, etc., etc., 
etc.  Heck, just look at the trailer wiring that supposed "pros" do - stuff 
that cuts out in every rainstorm, or dies over time as connections 
oxidize.  Or wires that get cut or short out because of poor/stupid routing.

Anyway, if you have the skills and tools for the job, building a wiring 
harness for a gauge kit is no big deal.  If all you have, though, is one of 
those lousy cheap Radio Shack crimpers, a pocket knife, and a roll of black 
electrical tape, then forget it....

Jim Ochi 

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:14:39 -0500
From: Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: E36 'Brake Light Circuit' message
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The sensor detects small current differences between the bulb 
circuits, and the difference caused by corrosion or bulbs from 
different manufactures may set it off.  In other words the detector 
is way too sensitive.

I think some of the bulbs/sockets may be aluminum. Removing the bulbs 
and cleaning them and the socket will often solve this problem for a 
couple years. Replacing the bulbs in pairs will help.

Sam



>Lately my E36 M3 has frequently been displaying a message on the OBC
>reading: "Brake Light Circuit.....Check Owners Manual".  The 'Check
>Control' light on the dash also illuminates. This happens randomly when
>applying the brakes, but once the message appears, I can't clear it
>until I restart the engine (then sometimes it comes back on at the first
>application of the brake pedal).
>
>
>Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting or what part is failing?
>

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:53:32 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 9/23/04 11:39 AM, Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I take it you guys are mounting the pressure senders right to the adapter in
> the E36s?  I may remote mount mine anyway, can never be too careful.  :-)

I understand that remote mounting the sender is common practice for the E30
M3 because of the level of vibration from the S14 engine, but don't assume
that is necessarily the best idea in the case of an E36's six.

At Putnam earlier this year we saw an E36 M3 that expired in a cloud of oil
smoke out on the track dues to a failure in one of the the hose fittings
leading to the remote sender. When you use a hose you introduce several more
potential failure areas.

Neil
96 M3


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:37:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oil pressure gauge and sender questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Neil Maller wrote:
> At Putnam earlier this year we saw an E36 M3 that expired in a cloud of oil
> smoke out on the track dues to a failure in one of the the hose fittings
> leading to the remote sender. When you use a hose you introduce several more
> potential failure areas.

At a BMW CCA driving school at Buttonwillow two weeks ago, a highly
modified Subaru WRX (Joe's, for those of you who know him) erupted in
flames right in front of me when one of his oil hoses
broke/disintegrated/etc. and sprayed oil all over the hot bits of the car. 
It was pretty spectacular with fire coming from the bottom of the car, and
apparently over the hood of the car.  He got off track quickly, and no one
was hurt.

--Andre


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:24:46 -0700
From: "Alex Koreneff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm at the end of my rope and just called my insurance company. =(

My car (04 330Ci) is now home to a colony of ants, and I can't seem to rid
myself of them.  I've verified there are no food sources in the car.  No
candy.  No soda.  No french fries/freedom fries.  No dead mobster in the
trunk.  Nothing.

I've vacuumed up thousands of the voracious little critters, and every time
I go driving, they attack me.... Damn things itch when they bite.  I've hit
em with bug bombs with litte effect.  They completely ignored the ant baits
I've placed in the car.  And they're multiplying.

I've called up people asking for help.

Dealer says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Call an exterminator."

Exterminator says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Cars can explode, and no
exterminator will accept that liability."

BMWNA says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Thank you for calling customer relations."

Insurance company says "We'll call you back."



Has anyone run into an issue like this before?  How was it resolved?  Any
suggestions that don't involve wanton destruction of Bavarian goodness?


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:20:41 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:24:46PM -0700, Alex Koreneff wrote:

> My car (04 330Ci) is now home to a colony of ants, and I can't seem to
> rid myself of them.  I've verified there are no food sources in the
> car.  No candy.  No soda.  No french fries/freedom fries.  No dead
> mobster in the trunk.  Nothing.

 This is the best problem I've seen in awhile.  (and by "best" I mean 
most interesting problem that isn't mine.)

Some thoughts: 
 Go to Vegas, park in hot dry parking lot for a few days.  Ants cook and 
die from lack of moisture, or car gets stolen.
 Go to Canada, park in tundra for a few days.  Ants freeze and die or 
car gets humped to death by horny walrus.
 Find a place nearby with industrial deep freeze, ask if you can store a 
car in sub-zero conditions for a week.
 Get one of those huge plastic car storage bags that you drive into, 
fill with air and seal.  (those are cool looking)  Fill the bag with CO2 
maybe.  Or set off a bug bomb in there.  The only thing about bug bombs 
is the film they leave on everything.  (do bug bombs still do that?)


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:01:43 -0500
From: Jamie Howton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alex Koreneff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A quick google search reveals:

http://www.epestsupply.com/ants.htm

Good luck.

Jamie Howton

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:57:02 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Had this problem once with an ex's car.  I don't know where they hide, but
they're nearly impossible to get rid of.  We found that basically, the
parking spot she always used had an ant hill nearby & theorized that's where
they were coming from.

We had to park the car elsewhere, surrounded it with ant traps, used several
ant traps inside 2 in the trunk, one in the back seat, one on the tranny
tunnel, one in each of the two front footwells (E36 BTW), and this seemed to
minimize the problem.  We let the car sit for days & had hundreds of dead
ants, I think they feed on the dead......

In the end, the only thing that got rid of them was several days of hard
freezes.

Can I ask what an exterminator is going to do to a car & have it
explode??????

Here's something we never tried that you might try.  Park the car in a
closed garage with the doors, trunk, hood, everything you can think of open.
Set of numerous, numerous bombs over days & days & see what happens.  It
could be your car bombs before didn't work because they were in the trunk or
hood or body somewhere.

Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Koreneff
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 15:25
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UUC] Ant infestation
> 
> 
> I'm at the end of my rope and just called my insurance company. =(
> 
> My car (04 330Ci) is now home to a colony of ants, and I 
> can't seem to rid
> myself of them.  I've verified there are no food sources in 
> the car.  No
> candy.  No soda.  No french fries/freedom fries.  No dead 
> mobster in the
> trunk.  Nothing.
> 
> I've vacuumed up thousands of the voracious little critters, 
> and every time
> I go driving, they attack me.... Damn things itch when theyd
> bite.  I've hit
> em with bug bombs with litte effect.  They completely ignored 
> the ant baits
> I've placed in the car.  And they're multiplying.
> 
> I've called up people asking for help.
> 
> Dealer says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Call an exterminator."
> 
> Exterminator says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Cars can explode, and no
> exterminator will accept that liability."
> 
> BMWNA says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Thank you for calling 
> customer relations."
> 
> Insurance company says "We'll call you back."
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone run into an issue like this before?  How was it 
> resolved?  Any
> suggestions that don't involve wanton destruction of Bavarian 
> goodness?
> 
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:21:43 -0400
From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lee writes:
<<In the end, the only thing that got rid of them was several days of hard
freezes>>

Hmmmm how about a refregerated warehouse for frozen foods?  Or maybe a road trip way 
north?  I've heard that ants can live for 14 days in water.  Must be something yummy 
somewhere in that Bavarian goodness they are feeding on, cause that's really all they 
do.

Steve Stoner - my neighbor is an entemologist I'll ask her.


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:27:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy,

>From a friend that dealt with this problem in his car...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:10:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [UUC]  Ant infestation (fwd)

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Mark Andy wrote:
> Brenden, you got any advice I should pass on to this guy?

Yes.

> Dealer says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Call an exterminator."
>
> Exterminator says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Cars can explode, and no
> exterminator will accept that liability."

Home Paramount, which is an exterminator, said they'd do it for me.  They
also said it happens from time to time, esp. in cars that have been stored
in rural lots.  I believe they said they get cars to work on from used
dealers due to that.

The first time they tried, they failed.  That was with a crack & crevice
treatment.  So, they told me to bring it back and they'd work on it again.

They put my ant-ridden colt in a big tent with a bunch of wicker furniture
with a terminite infestation, and ran some sort of gas through it for
hours.  Then they did crack and crevice treatment with some sort of
liquid.

Then, no more ants.

Note that my car was a beater and had cloth seats, plastic everything.  I
never noticed that the experience did anything bad to it, but it wasn't a
luxury vehicle.

The ants particularly loved all of the weatherstripping.  It's hollow and
always dry inside.  That's where they were storing all their eggs.  Which
made for a fun/gross moment: it was like a tube of toothpaste, but was
really ant-egg-paste.

-brendan


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:13:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ant infestation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Exterminator says "Sorry.  Can't help.  Cars can explode, and no
> > exterminator will accept that liability."

Precious.  Yeah I'd say don't use that guy because apparently he wants
to use fire to get rid of the problem, and apparently around gas fumes
as well.  Maybe he thinks you drive a Pinto!  :-)

Carlos.

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:28:38 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: E36 'Brake Light Circuit' message
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You want the 4 pole switch, the two pole one is for cars without check 
control and if you didn't have check control, you wouldn't have the message.

Ed

Malcolm Reitz wrote:

>It's the brake light switch on the pedal assembly. The part is about $25
>and here is a good write-up on the repair:
>http://www.logun.org/brake.htm
>
>Malcolm
>'88 M5
>'98 328i
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerome &
>Chinthika Welte
>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 6:20 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
>Subject: [UUC] FW: E36 'Brake Light Circuit' message
>
>Lately my E36 M3 has frequently been displaying a message on the OBC
>reading: "Brake Light Circuit.....Check Owners Manual".  The 'Check
>Control' light on the dash also illuminates. This happens randomly when
>applying the brakes, but once the message appears, I can't clear it
>until I restart the engine (then sometimes it comes back on at the first
>application of the brake pedal).
>
>Of course the owners manual doesn't mention the code. I've checked the
>brake lights when the message first appears (jam a snow scraper to not
>release the brake pedal) and all lights are functioning.
>
>Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting or what part is failing?
>  
>


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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:47:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: E30 rear anti-sway bar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone know the size of the nut that goes on the end of the rear
anti-sway bar on an E30? My passenger side lost the nut and now clunks like
you wouldn't believe.

-- Joe

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