The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 370 : "text" Format

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  Re: M5
  Re: shock/strut upgrade
  Re: shock/strut upgrade
  Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
  Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
  Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
  Re: ABS Sensor Wire Holder Thingie?
  OT:  euro delivery info, gift ideas
  Re: OT:  euro delivery info, gift ideas
  Re: OT:  euro delivery info, gift ideas
  Done!
  People Who Know Nothing About BMWs
  Re: People Who Know Nothing About BMWs
  Re: People Who Know Nothing About BMWs
  shock/strut upgrade, E46 325iT

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:40:45 -0400
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M5
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

m3 drvr wrote:

> Does anyone know the price BMW is looking to get for this car???
> I've heard rumors of over $85k which is pretty expensive when
> you compare it to a RS6 (flame suit on)....

RS6 is (was, is no longer available in the US, probably not in
Europe either as there is a new A6 for sale) $82.7k - if the M5
were $85k it's basically the same money.

given the choice between 450hp, awd, turbos & auto trans only &
Audi's traditionally indifferent vehicle dynamics as compared to
BMW vs 500hp, rwd, no heavy awd, no turbos, SMG (perhaps
not as nice as a full manual, but better than a finger-shifted slushbox)
and BMW superior dynamics, I would pick the M5 100 times
out of 100.

I'd suspect that an M5 entered into the Speed GT series might
give the Audi, Cadillac & Corvette boys something to think about...



Ben

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:58:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: shock/strut upgrade
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Shocks and tires can make a world of difference in the
responsiveness of a car.  What tires are on it now? 
Do you need winter traction also?

Also, early E46s had over boosted steering and BMW had
offered to change them to firmer steering.  I have no
details.

Gary Derian

--- Tom Kosmalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I liked this phrase in a recent post, so I'll start
> with it:
> 
> "With flame suit on" I will note that my recently
> acquired 325iT has a 
> bit of a vague, floaty feeling in the front
> suspension.
> 
> Here's the part that might require the flame suit. 
> It's definitely not 
> as "buttoned down" in the front end as my 95 Saab
> 900SE (V6, 5 spd) was 
> with 140k and kyb gas shocks.
> 
> Any opinions?  I am thinking and hoping that an
> aftermarket set of 
> shocks and struts will take care of this.  Not
> really interested (yet) 
> in going the springs/swaybars/etc. route, if I can
> avoid it.
> 
> So I guess what I am really asking is for opinions
> about shock/strut 
> brands for someone wanting firmer street handling. 
> No track/autocross 
> plans.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tom Kosmalski
> 
> Search the
>
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> 
> 
>
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> founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
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> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:01:07 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shock/strut upgrade
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tom, I'm partial to Bilstein HDs for stock springs.  Other folks
prefer Koni adjustables.  Take your pick.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:40:01 -0700
>From: Tom Kosmalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: shock/strut upgrade
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I liked this phrase in a recent post, so I'll start with it:
>
>"With flame suit on" I will note that my recently acquired 325iT has
a
>bit of a vague, floaty feeling in the front suspension.
>
>Here's the part that might require the flame suit.  It's definitely
not
>as "buttoned down" in the front end as my 95 Saab 900SE (V6, 5 spd)
was
>with 140k and kyb gas shocks.
>
>Any opinions?  I am thinking and hoping that an aftermarket set of
>shocks and struts will take care of this.  Not really interested
(yet)
>in going the springs/swaybars/etc. route, if I can avoid it.
>
>So I guess what I am really asking is for opinions about shock/strut
>brands for someone wanting firmer street handling.  No
track/autocross
>plans.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Tom Kosmalski




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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:51:58 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sorry Gary, but your comments are non-dis-regardable.  The reason for
the back pain was that I needed to kind of hold the socket-end of the
wrench to keep it more or less centered, while operating the handle
end.  This put me in an akward position.  I'm not sure I could have
kept the socket end centered while stepping on the pipe on the handle.
Anyway, I like the part where you say not to sweat the torque.

Thanks,

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>If 75 lb hurt your back, you need to begin an exercise
>program :-).  You could have put the wrench on the
>other side and stepped on it until 75 lb less was on
>your other foot.
>
>Torque is a +/- 50% deal anyway, so don't sweat it.
>Your method is as good as most torque wrenches.
>
>I have never worked with an E30 halfshaft so you may
>disregard my comment.
>
>Gary Derian




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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:54:42 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OK, so it sounds like you're in Gary D's "don't sweat it camp.  If
that's right, then thanks.  If that's not right, then at least you had
something interesting to say about it, eh?    :^)

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:29:39 -0500
>From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>There are so many variables that contribute to the holding force of a
nut or
>bolt - the condition of the threads, lubricant on the threads,
surface
>finish, and so on.  The exception would be torque-to-yield fasteners.
The
>strength of a section of metal can be controlled more closely than
the
>menagerie of conditions involved with conventional threaded
fasteners.




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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:13:00 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"so it sounds like you're in Gary D's "don't sweat it camp."

Yes.  Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

-----Original Message-----
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Miller
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:55 PM
To: UUC Digest; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Axle Nut Torque Accuracy


OK, so it sounds like you're in Gary D's "don't sweat it camp.  If that's
right, then thanks.  If that's not right, then at least you had
something interesting to say about it, eh?    :^)

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:29:39 -0500
>From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Axle Nut Torque Accuracy
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>There are so many variables that contribute to the holding force of a
nut or
>bolt - the condition of the threads, lubricant on the threads,
surface
>finish, and so on.  The exception would be torque-to-yield fasteners.
The
>strength of a section of metal can be controlled more closely than
the
>menagerie of conditions involved with conventional threaded
fasteners.



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UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:57:45 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ABS Sensor Wire Holder Thingie?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Um, 4?  Where do the other two go?  I only know about 2 missing wire
clamps, one on each trailing arm.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ABS Sensor Wire Holder Thingie?
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>The trailing arm gets 4 brackets, p/n 63-12-1-364-431.
<snip>
>Gary Derian




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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UUCDigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT:  euro delivery info, gift ideas
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

hey there, my father in law is going to do euro
delivery on his new 745 and i'd love to get him some
"guru" info on a eur delivery trip.  he'll be there
about 2 weeks -- any insider info on good drives, must
see places, or ?? is appreciated.  he's no a cca
member (yet) so i am trying to help him out.

also, i would like to get him some sort of gift for
the trip (string back gloves come to mind....i know,
corny...), so if anyone has any tips on somethign they
would have really like to have had when they did their
euro delivery (cool guidebooks, flare gun,
whatever...) , i would appreciate it.

TIA.  -paul

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 00:01:41 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT:  euro delivery info, gift ideas
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Paul wrote:

>hey there, my father in law is going to do euro
delivery on his new 745 and i'd love to get him some
"guru" info on a eur delivery trip.  he'll be there
about 2 weeks -- any insider info on good drives, must
see places, or ?? is appreciated.  he's no a cca
member (yet) so i am trying to help him out.
_______________

Check out back issues of Roundel.  IIRC, there was at least one issue that
had a whole "European driving vacation/Euro Delivery" theme to it that had
lots of useful info, suggestions, etc.

vty,

--Dennis


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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:39:43 -0400
From: Steve Tymoszuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT:  euro delivery info, gift ideas
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The April 2004 issue of Roundel is the issue that Dennis is referring to.

-Steve

Paul wrote:

>>hey there, my father in law is going to do euro delivery
>>    
>>
Dennis the wrote:

>Check out back issues of Roundel.  
>


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:03:20 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Done!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Pretty much the end of the Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement from Hell
Project occurred tonight when I went for a test drive.  No more rear
end noise!  And I was reminded of how much I love to drive my car.  It
really is a joy to drive, which is what it is all about, eh?

A few loose ends:  I need an ABS sensor, a brake pad wear sensor, and
some cable clamps.  I'll need to drop by Conversion Techniques for an
alignment.  And I still have to put on my "new" Momo steering wheel.

But I'm back on the road, and couldn't be happier.  Thanks to everyone
who has loaned me tools and provided advice and opinions during my
travails.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
1990 325i "it's alive, it's alive!"
1991 325iA for the wife and kid to fight over
1998 Dodge Durango can go back to sitting in the driveway most of the
time




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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:15:28 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: People Who Know Nothing About BMWs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We've all seen the ads before - a BMW with a "V6" engine.  We've all
made the comment about how these folks (usually used car dealers with
questionable reputations) obviously never even opened the hood,
wouldn't know an inline 6 if it bit them in the butt, and know nothing
about BMWs.

So here's another one.

"BMW 2001 Z3 3.0i  V6, lthr, alloys, 8K mi, Must See!, #L48573
Concord BMW..."

Yes that's right, this is a local authorized BMW dealer.  Draw your
own conclusions.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA




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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:32:04 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: People Who Know Nothing About BMWs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have no idea if this is the case here or not, but a couple of things
come to mind.

Some places I have run car ads had a finite selection for
some items like motor: 4 cyl, 6 cyl, 8 cyl - and if you choose the 6 it
might put "V-6" in your ad.

The other one is dealings I have had with placing ads in the paper when
I (or friends) have called them in and the "ad agent" on the other end of
the phone typed in what they THOUGHT you said. Of course, mailing or
faxing in your ad is no guarantee they will not "interpret" it for you.

We drew a box around a "help wanted" ad we faxed in to the local paper and
were shocked when we got this really high bill - they ran a custom ad in
the paper with a box around it.

Then there was the time I saw an ad for the laserdisc of the Michael J Fox
movie "Casual Ties of War". Never saw that one, but I guess they wore
Mickey Mouse ties while killing the enemy?

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black


At 06:15 AM 09/20/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>We've all seen the ads before - a BMW with a "V6" engine.  We've all
>made the comment about how these folks (usually used car dealers with
>questionable reputations) obviously never even opened the hood,
>wouldn't know an inline 6 if it bit them in the butt, and know nothing
>about BMWs.
>
>So here's another one.
>
>"BMW 2001 Z3 3.0i  V6, lthr, alloys, 8K mi, Must See!, #L48573
>Concord BMW..."
>
>Yes that's right, this is a local authorized BMW dealer.  Draw your
>own conclusions.
>
>Scott Miller
>GGC BMW CCA
>
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: 20 Sep 2004 13:53:08 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: People Who Know Nothing About BMWs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Reminds me of the ad I saw during the gulf war for a 
Camaro IRAQ Z

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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:36:24 -0700
From: Tom Kosmalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: shock/strut upgrade, E46 325iT
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for the input on this topic.  Apologies (to Gary) for providing 
partial information.  It is a dang-near brand-spanking new E46 325iT.  
Scott mentioned rear bushings, and I definitely feel the float most in  
Oregon's lovely studded tire ruts, so if bushings would do the trick, 
it would be great not to 86 the nearly new stock struts and shocks.

More opinions?

Thanks!

Tom Kosmalski


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