The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 383 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: E36 control arm bushings
  Re: Free CarFax report
  Re: Free CarFax report
  Re: Buying/Leasing a 330i ZHP
  Re: Buying/Leasing a 330i ZHP
  Re: <E30> Rear View Mirror 
  <E36> diff oil
  Re: <E36> diff oil
  Re: <E36> diff oil
  Re: <E36> diff oil
  Aftermarket Fuel Gauge
  fw: SMG mode madness
  Re: How much is too much (oil)???
  Re: How much is too much (oil)???
  anyone got a Euro VIN Decoder ring?

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:48:18 -0700
From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E36 control arm bushings
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Whatever you use, the bushings go on _much easier if you freeze them
solid as a hockey puck before pressing them on.  One big pop onto the
end and a few grunting turning wiggles gets them on the arm.  Freeze the
arm too if you have a freezer big enough. I use silicone spray on the
bushing and arm because it doesn't attack the rubber, a mild dish soap
functions similarly. Others like to 'glue' the rubber in place so use
something like turpentine that does attack the rubber.
Use whatever you're comfortable with that gets the bushing onto the arm
for you since in practice it probably doesn't make a difference.
Barry

-----Original Message-----

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Ruiz
>Subject: [UUC] E36 control arm bushings I am looking towards replacing my control arm 
>bushings
>soon, (I've had them sitting here for a couple weeks now), and I have been looking 
>into the lubricants
>necessary to complete the job properly.  The lubricant Bentley specifies 81 22 9 407 
>284 is NLA from my
>dealer.  What is the proper lubricant to use in place of this?  Bentley says it has 
>to be a special
>lubricant that dries so that the bushings will "glue" into position after the lube 
>dries up.  What's the
>proper replacement lubricant for this job?Thanks,'93 325
>  
>


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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:48:09 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Free CarFax report
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


THANKS!!!!

I just used it and VERY handy!!

Clyde

>From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [UUC]  Free CarFax report
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:16:31 -0500
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.carfax.com+www.carfax.com+interested&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=20&sa=N&filter=0
>
>Dennis
>01 M5 silver/black
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:52:15 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Free CarFax report
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You can clear your CarFax cookies and get another free report (for a different
e-mail address). In fact, if you accidentally miss-type your e-mail
address it will still let you get a report.

Not that I would encourage anyone to run a bunch of free reports or anything.

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black

At 12:48 PM 09/30/2004 -0400, m3 drvr wrote:

>THANKS!!!!
>
>I just used it and VERY handy!!
>
>Clyde
>
>>From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [UUC]  Free CarFax report
>>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:16:31 -0500
>>
>>http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.carfax.com+www.carfax.com+interested&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=20&sa=N&filter=0
>>
>>Dennis
>>01 M5 silver/black
>>
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>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:40:24 -0700
From: "Ziv Gillat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Buying/Leasing a 330i ZHP
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My dealer in San Diego gave me the car, in 2001, which was during the peak
of the economy, at $1500 over euro invoice. I'm sure that nowadays, it's as
good or better. I'm from the bay area, but went to San Diego because no
dealer here, locally, was anywhere close to his price. Let me know if you
want his info. It was the best car buying experience I've ever had (of
course, going to Europe made it even better).

Ziv.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chet.dawes
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] Buying/Leasing a 330i ZHP


Does anyone have experience purchasing (or lease) a new 330i recently?
I'll be visiting my favorite dealer today to discuss just that and I'd
like to know what (if any) amount off MSRP you were able to attain.  I
guess any new BMW would be applicable in this case.

I've got an idea what I think the dealer's pain threshold might be, but
anyone have any relevant experience with their new BMW?

Any help is appreciated, you can reply direct if you wish.
Thanks!
Chet Dawes
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:49:54 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Buying/Leasing a 330i ZHP
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not recently, but I did get my 2001 330i from Dean Wingard (Dr Bimmer)
at Taylor BMW in Augusta, GA. He was MUCH less on the price and gave me
the "buy rate" on the loan and lease numbers.  My boss picked up his '03
540i from Dean last year. We both flew down and drove back, but he can
ship you are car for a modest fee.

http://www.drbimmer.com/

In both cases, he was a lot cheaper than the local dealer. Our local dealer
is a Sonic Automotive owned place and the finance guy makes money on
every deal so you NEVER get the buy rate on anything + the high doc fee +
little or no discount = bad deal.

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black


At 10:00 AM 09/30/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>Does anyone have experience purchasing (or lease) a new 330i recently?
>I'll be visiting my favorite dealer today to discuss just that and I'd
>like to know what (if any) amount off MSRP you were able to attain.  I
>guess any new BMW would be applicable in this case.
>
>I've got an idea what I think the dealer's pain threshold might be, but
>anyone have any relevant experience with their new BMW?
>
>Any help is appreciated, you can reply direct if you wish.
>Thanks!
>Chet Dawes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:41:00 -0400
From: "marshall lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E30> Rear View Mirror 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 I have also had several e30's with this problem.  Solved it by going to a
sporting goods store and buying a little black rubber ball that would fit
tightly between the mirror support and the windshield.  Cheap, hardly
noticeable from outside and solved problem.

marshall

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos Lopez
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] <E30> Rear View Mirror 

Evo Clown wrote:
> and the lighted ones tend to vibrate on the cars I have installed them 
>in.  FWIW, both cars were mid 80s E30s, which did not have that mirror 
>from  teh factory.  Maybe the base plate is different?

Well I've owned two E30s with the lighted mirrors and they both vibrate.
One because it had the vibratin' engine from hell (S14), I adjusted the darn
doohickie to stop the vibrations on a weekly basis but it always loosened
up.  Now the 325is also does it, on that one I actually put a piece of
sticky foam pad behind the adjuster doohickie which has helped a little bit.
Over the years I've just gotten used to the "objects in the mirror are
always vibrating."  :-)

Carlos
88 325is
93 325is <--now this one vibrates also (sigh)



                
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <E36> diff oil
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey gruppe,

Was wondering which of the two RedLine diff oils to
use in the differential.  The RedLine site specs for
the plain 75W-90 show it has the friction modifiers
for limited slips (like mine), so I assume that is the
right type.  However I have seen differing opinions. 
I have heard some on this list mention using half
75W-90, half 75W-90NS, which I see does NOT have the
friction modifiers, but allows for faster
synchronization.  Is there even any synchronization
that occurs in the diff?

Thanks,
Brian


                
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:40:21 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> diff oil
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

you can always buy the 75W-90NS which will give you a bit more lock up and
then if the diff is too noisy add in small amounts of the friction modifier
that RL sells until the noise goes away.

Marco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:27 PM
To: UUC Digest
Subject: [UUC] <E36> diff oil


Hey gruppe,

Was wondering which of the two RedLine diff oils to
use in the differential.  The RedLine site specs for
the plain 75W-90 show it has the friction modifiers
for limited slips (like mine), so I assume that is the
right type.  However I have seen differing opinions.
I have heard some on this list mention using half
75W-90, half 75W-90NS, which I see does NOT have the
friction modifiers, but allows for faster
synchronization.  Is there even any synchronization
that occurs in the diff?

Thanks,
Brian



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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:32:52 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> diff oil
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Was wondering which of the two RedLine diff oils to
> use in the differential.  The RedLine site specs for
> the plain 75W-90 show it has the friction modifiers
> for limited slips (like mine), so I assume that is the
> right type.  

This is the type I've been using in both car's diffs. No problems
whatsoever, street and track use.

My 2 cents,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP/A5


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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:44:38 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> diff oil
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> you can always buy the 75W-90NS which will give you a bit more lock up and
> then if the diff is too noisy add in small amounts of the friction modifier
> that RL sells until the noise goes away.

Sounds like too much work to me. :-)

Jim Bassett - lazy


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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:37:58 -0400
From: CsWs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Aftermarket Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sorry for the cross post.

However, I am looking to install an after market Fuel Level gauge into
My 87 E30 race car.
I was wondering if any regular gauge that works off a VDO sending unit
would work? Has anybody done an after market gauge.

FYI VDO sending units are generally 10-180 ohms. I assume the VDO
sending unit in a BMW is the same?

TIA
Karl 
#747 KP

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:08:07 -0500
From: "Scott Staewen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fw: SMG mode madness
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

from sniffpetrol.com:

BMW IN SMG MODE MADNESS

BMW's brand new M5 has stunned road testers with its performance, handling 
and a remarkable 11 separate modes for the car's seven-speed SMG sequential 
gearbox. However, despite claims that this is simply "too many" modes, 
engineers in Munich are said to be hard at work on even more selectable 
options for future versions of the semi-manual transmission. "You can never 
have too many modes," said one high-ranking engineeringer. "That's why the 
next generation SMG will come with over 100 user selectable settings, almost 
all of them bafflingly pointless. To begin with there will be some fairly 
obvious choices such as 'Sport' which offers a more aggressive change 
strategy, 'Track Sport' which offers even more aggressive change strategy, 
and 'Club Sport' which offers a change strategy so aggressive that on every 
upchange the car will literally smack the driver in the face with a big 
club. These settings will be joined by other sport modes including 'Lucozade 
Sport', 'Sky Sport' and 'Dickie Davies' World Of Sport'"
However, our Munich source says that this is just the tip of a very silly, 
gearbox-related iceberg. "The real developments for the next SMG system will 
come in automatic mode," he claims. "Traditional autoboxes typically feature 
just a simple 'Winter' mode. We will take this to the next logical step with 
'Spring', 'Summer' and 'Autumn' modes, plus additional settings including 
'Drizzle', 'Light Breeze', 'Slightly Overcast' and 'Oooh, It's Mild For The 
Time Of Year' modes".

Our BMW spy also claims that further developments may include modes 
selectable on the basis of the driver's mood, including 'Comfort', 'Tired', 
'Bloody Annoyed' and 'Strangely Wistful'. However, he denied recent rumours 
that we may also in future see a 'Shouldn't You Have Decided On The Car's 
Settings For Us Since You're The F'ing Engineers' mode.

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Christian Els <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much is too much (oil)???
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I guess I misread John B.'s original reply.  I thought
he meant that I didn't fully drain the car last time I
changed the oil.  From your message, it sounds like he
meant I dumped this current oil change into a
partially full receptacle.

A note on this: I have only a small garage, so I
cannot keep dirty, oily pans laying around. 
Accordingly, after emptying the oil from the drain pan
into the 5-gal bucket, it is completely cleaned out
with paper towels until bone dry, then put away. 
Anal?  Perhaps.  But necessary.

So, bottom line - no chance of that.  Oil must have
gotten in some other way.

Neil

--- Christian Els <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> Head gaskets are a rather uncommon failure from
> over-filling the oil.
> Usually the front and/or rear crankshaft oil seals
> blow out
> catastrophically from overpressure. Typically they
> at least weep is
> the engine is grossly overfull.
> 
> I'm with John B. in guessing you mistakenly grabbed
> a pan already
> partially full to drain your oil into.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Christian Els
> Columbia, MO
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:10:33 -0700 (PDT), Neil N.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok, to those that responded:
> > 
> > 1) No, I usually let the oil drain for an
> annoyingly
> > long time, and always get it nice and hot first.
> > 
> > 2) I have not seen any big puff of smoke.  The car
> has
> > seemed down on power for the past year, but I
> > attribute that more to the mileage (196k) than
> > anything else.
> > 
> > 3) No oil cooler here.
> > 
> > Is a head gasket the only - or most likely - area
> of
> > damage in such a case?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Neil
> > 
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:14:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How much is too much (oil)???
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One possibility:  You said you added a can of Lubromoly cleaner before you changed the 
oil.  This may have cleared up a passage or two to your heads that was causing oil to 
pool up there.  This could have caused you to think the pan was low, so you added oil, 
all the time the oil was there, just not in the pan when you checked.  The cleaner 
cleared it and you ended up being Jed Clampett striking texas tea.

David in Richmond, VA

-----Original Message-----
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sep 30, 2004 7:02 PM
To: Christian Els <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UUC] How much is too much (oil)???

I guess I misread John B.'s original reply.  I thought
he meant that I didn't fully drain the car last time I
changed the oil.  From your message, it sounds like he
meant I dumped this current oil change into a
partially full receptacle.

A note on this: I have only a small garage, so I
cannot keep dirty, oily pans laying around. 
Accordingly, after emptying the oil from the drain pan
into the 5-gal bucket, it is completely cleaned out
with paper towels until bone dry, then put away. 
Anal?  Perhaps.  But necessary.

So, bottom line - no chance of that.  Oil must have
gotten in some other way.

Neil

--- Christian Els <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> Head gaskets are a rather uncommon failure from
> over-filling the oil.
> Usually the front and/or rear crankshaft oil seals
> blow out
> catastrophically from overpressure. Typically they
> at least weep is
> the engine is grossly overfull.
> 
> I'm with John B. in guessing you mistakenly grabbed
> a pan already
> partially full to drain your oil into.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Christian Els
> Columbia, MO
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:10:33 -0700 (PDT), Neil N.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok, to those that responded:
> > 
> > 1) No, I usually let the oil drain for an
> annoyingly
> > long time, and always get it nice and hot first.
> > 
> > 2) I have not seen any big puff of smoke.  The car
> has
> > seemed down on power for the past year, but I
> > attribute that more to the mileage (196k) than
> > anything else.
> > 
> > 3) No oil cooler here.
> > 
> > Is a head gasket the only - or most likely - area
> of
> > damage in such a case?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Neil
> > 
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:01:21 -0500
From: Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: anyone got a Euro VIN Decoder ring?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Posting for a friend...


Can anybody tell me anymore about an E36 M3 Evo (Euro 3.2) that comes up
with a vehicle code of CD98? This site (http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi)
lists the "catalog model" as "ZA". Does that mean it was made in South Africa? 
It is a RHD sedan with a production date of 8/97. The factory code is "N". 
The beginning of the VIN in question is ABMCD980X0N-not a BMW VIN I am 
familiar with.

please also send replies to  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks in advance..

Mark Williams
Dallas, TX 
91 ///M3 2.5L


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