The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 376 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Antfestation [sic] Re: Ant infestation Re: Ant infestation Re: Ant Infestation Ants in your pants Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts 328ic FS sort of
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:07:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antfestation [sic] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex, Hot or cold... I thought along the sames lines as others ... find a cold storage company that will let you keep the car overnight or go to a body shop and ask if you can put the car in the bake oven for an hour or so. Supposedly fine diatomaceous earth (pool filter) spread around will also kill them by getting into their joints and piercing their exoskeletons. Also, try to go to an car wash that also sprays the bottom of the car. You want to get rid of the ant scents on whatever paths they're taking to get back onto the car. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:11:40 -0700 From: "Jason Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ant infestation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Others obviously have chimed in with some good (albeit extreme sounding) advice. I recently waxed my E36 M3 with zymol, then covered it for a few days (just got an e30 325i that I'm having fun with). When I opened it to put throw the new registration papers in there I noticed a line of ants moving along the car where the door attaches to the body. I have never noticed this before, only keep a bottle of water in my car (and a V1) and have never seen this before. I could only suppose that the buggers like the Zymol flakes that were all over the place. I took the car for a drive today and didn't notice any ants. Not sure if this helps, but I wanted to add the data to the heap. Had a CEO once that had a mouse makes its home in the trunk lining of his CL55. That's what he got for driving his So Cal CL55 once every 5 months and favoring his Mid West CL55. Good luck. Jason -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Koreneff Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] Ant infestation I'm at the end of my rope and just called my insurance company. =( My car (04 330Ci) is now home to a colony of ants, and I can't seem to rid myself of them. I've verified there are no food sources in the car. No candy. No soda. No french fries/freedom fries. No dead mobster in the trunk. Nothing. I've vacuumed up thousands of the voracious little critters, and every time I go driving, they attack me.... Damn things itch when they bite. I've hit em with bug bombs with litte effect. They completely ignored the ant baits I've placed in the car. And they're multiplying. I've called up people asking for help. Dealer says "Sorry. Can't help. Call an exterminator." Exterminator says "Sorry. Can't help. Cars can explode, and no exterminator will accept that liability." BMWNA says "Sorry. Can't help. Thank you for calling customer relations." Insurance company says "We'll call you back." Has anyone run into an issue like this before? How was it resolved? Any suggestions that don't involve wanton destruction of Bavarian goodness? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:36:09 -0700 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ant infestation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 08:11:40PM -0700, Jason Knight wrote: > > Had a CEO once that had a mouse makes its home in the trunk lining of > his CL55. That's what he got for driving his So Cal CL55 once every 5 > months and favoring his Mid West CL55. My dad had a mouse get into the ductwork of his Subaru many years ago. The mouse DIED in there. He somehow managed to avoid getting someone to tear it apart to clean it out. But that smelled BAD. I'm almost gaggin' just thinking about it. -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:20:33 -0400 From: "bs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ant Infestation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You must live near me. A couple of weeks ago both my 330 and M3 suffered the same problem. I sprayed the cars with insecticide inside, and left them closed up in the sun for a few hours, and that seemed to take care of most of them. The ones on the outside were harder to get rid of, but they eventually just went away. I did have to spray under the hood on the M3 as well. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:12:59 -0500 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Ants in your pants Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry to hear of your problem . While I am NOT an exterminator by trade (actually a retired aerospace QA engineer ) I have had to deal with lots of biting fire-ants nests around here (mid-south Tenn ) where they outweigh humans . We prolly kill off three nests a week . First the 'science' bit ...The ONLY way to kill a nest is to kill the Queen . The best way to do that is to FEED her something that kills her ...by letting her little minions carry it to her . Usually the stuff that does the best job STINKS like dead sheep . Ortho and others sell tall containers identified as 'Fire ant Exterminator' or somesuch giveaway name (I'll be glad to dig ours out from barn if you want it exactly ) . Sells at Lowes , Home Club and other DIY places for a few bucks a can and lasts forever if u follow the instructions . WATCH the ants carefully and see where their main 'highways' are (they're blind little bastards so follow scent-trails ) put down a thickish piece of cardboard or plastic that will lay flat over this 'trail' and onto it put just a tiny bit of the above product ..more is NOT better ants only eat small qtys !! ....the workers will immediately carry the stinky-shit stuff to the Queen (she gets the best of everything ) and it WILL kill her . The rest of them WILL then die ....or move to a different spot and start all over ...in a very short period of time..like a couple of hours!! . Warning ..do NOT under any circumstances store the can/container anywhere near your house even tightly shut it WILL stink up the whole place in a hurry and your S O will wonder what the hell died . Obviously you also want to remove it from your car ASAP so it doesn�t penetrate into fabrics etc..which is why you put it ON something like plastic. Hope this helps !! PS IMHO fumigation is useless against ants cuz they don�t breathe much- you gotta feed the Queen to death . Bill & Shirley Proud Seattle Summers , Tennessee Winters . Long Commute between , ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:17:42 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard this on the news this morning and have not yet confirmed it. California's Guvunator Ahnuldt (Maria's husband) signed a bill repealing the smog check exemption for cars over 30 years old. I hope you 02 owners kept all the smog hardware that you took off your cars when they became exempt a few years ago. Then again, I hope I heard the news wrong. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:34:28 -0700 (PDT) From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott, Your news is confirmed in the LAtimes. begin quote "Schwarzenegger apparently ignored the pleas of his friend Jay Leno, host of television's "Tonight Show," and signed a bill that will require smog checks for vehicles built since 1976. Current law exempts 30-year-old and older cars from smog checks. A classic-car buff, Leno had called the Assembly office of author Sally Lieber (D-Mountain View) to complain. The governor included no message in his signing of the bill, AB 2683. Another classic-car owner called the new law "poppycock." Old cars are either dilapidated and soon to stop running anyway or else well-maintained by car buffs like him, said Chuck Abbott, past president of the Southern California chapter of the Pontiac-Oakland Club International. "There are other things politicians could do," he said, "that would have a far greater impact on the air pollution than going after specialty cars that are maintained by people who cherish them." Schwarzenegger also signed a bill � AB 2628 by Assemblywoman Fran Pavley (D-Agoura Hills) � that will allow solo drivers of vehicles that get 45 miles per gallon or greater fuel efficiency to use carpool lanes after the federal government approves such a use, as is expected. Those vehicles include the Honda Civic Hybrid, Honda Insight and Toyota Prius. The law takes effect in January and is strongly opposed by Ford Motor Co. Eight members of the Assembly � all Democratic women � drive a Prius as their state-leased vehicle." end quote. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I heard this on the news this morning and have not > yet confirmed it. > California's Guvunator Ahnuldt (Maria's husband) > signed a bill repealing > the smog check exemption for cars over 30 years old. > I hope you 02 owners > kept all the smog hardware that you took off your > cars when they became > exempt a few years ago. Then again, I hope I heard > the news wrong. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:50:42 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe I am missing something: Current law exempts cars 30 years old and older. Since this is 2004 (or car model year 2005) then cars with a model year of 1974 (or 1975) or older are now exempt. Under the new law, cars that are 1975 and older will still be exempt - cars 1976 and newer will have to be tested. Right? Sounds like no car current exempt will have to now comply - the difference is that if you have a 1976 car you can NO LONGER wait until 2006 and remove all the pollution equipment and still be legal under the new law. Does not sound like that big a deal to me.... Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 09:34 AM 09/24/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Scott, >Your news is confirmed in the LAtimes. > >begin quote >"Schwarzenegger apparently ignored the pleas of his >friend Jay Leno, host of television's "Tonight Show," >and signed a bill that will require smog checks for >vehicles built since 1976. > >Current law exempts 30-year-old and older cars from >smog checks. A classic-car buff, Leno had called the >Assembly office of author Sally Lieber (D-Mountain >View) to complain. The governor included no message in >his signing of the bill, AB 2683. > >Another classic-car owner called the new law >"poppycock." > >Old cars are either dilapidated and soon to stop >running anyway or else well-maintained by car buffs >like him, said Chuck Abbott, past president of the >Southern California chapter of the Pontiac-Oakland >Club International. > >"There are other things politicians could do," he >said, "that would have a far greater impact on the air >pollution than going after specialty cars that are >maintained by people who cherish them." > >Schwarzenegger also signed a bill � AB 2628 by >Assemblywoman Fran Pavley (D-Agoura Hills) � that will >allow solo drivers of vehicles that get 45 miles per >gallon or greater fuel efficiency to use carpool lanes >after the federal government approves such a use, as >is expected. > >Those vehicles include the Honda Civic Hybrid, Honda >Insight and Toyota Prius. The law takes effect in >January and is strongly opposed by Ford Motor Co. >Eight members of the Assembly � all Democratic women � >drive a Prius as their state-leased vehicle." end >quote. > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I heard this on the news this morning and have not > > yet confirmed it. > > California's Guvunator Ahnuldt (Maria's husband) > > signed a bill repealing > > the smog check exemption for cars over 30 years old. > > I hope you 02 owners > > kept all the smog hardware that you took off your > > cars when they became > > exempt a few years ago. Then again, I hope I heard > > the news wrong. > > > > Scott Miller > > GGC BMW CCA > > > > > > > > Search the > > >ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:03:37 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is pretty funny, CA (and other states) currently allow solo motorcyclists in the HOV/carpool lanes. I bet most bikes on the road today do not even get 45 MPG! Most everything sold now is larger and higher performance. Both of mine are 1800cc (about 110 cu in) motorcycles and if I baby the throttle on a trip I might see 45mpg on them. But normal or "spirited" riding puts me in the 30-38mpg range. So the folks complaining about this (like Ford, who has NO vehicles that get 45mpg) should also be complaining about motorcycles as well - or at least most of them :-) Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 09:34 AM 09/24/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Schwarzenegger also signed a bill � AB 2628 by >Assemblywoman Fran Pavley (D-Agoura Hills) � that will >allow solo drivers of vehicles that get 45 miles per >gallon or greater fuel efficiency to use carpool lanes >after the federal government approves such a use, as >is expected. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:15:10 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dennis Wynne wrote: >It is pretty funny, CA (and other states) currently allow solo motorcyclists in the HOV/carpool lanes. I bet most bikes on the road today do not even get 45 MPG! Most everything sold now is larger and higher performance. Both of mine are 1800cc (about 110 cu in) motorcycles and if I baby the throttle on a trip I might see 45mpg on them. But normal or "spirited" riding puts me in the 30-38mpg range. So the folks complaining about this (like Ford, who has NO vehicles that get 45mpg) should also be complaining about motorcycles as well - or at least most of them :-) _______________ Well, if you want to bring motorcycles into this.... I suspect the reason that motorcycles are allowed into HOV/carpool lanes doesn't relate to MPG, but rather CONGESTION. HOV lanes were introduced not just to reduce overall gas consumption, but also (or more so) to reduce congestion - on the highway and in parking. I think the logic is that motorcycles take up less space, both moving and when parked, so policy makers decided to encourage more motorcycle use (prodded by the motorcycle lobby, to be sure). Ride to live, live to ride. vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:41:49 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We also do not test sniff motorcycles around here (as we do for cars) to make sure they are clean. Some non-CA bikes might meet emission standards but since they are never tested here they could be spewing pollutants. So poor mileage polluting motorcycles are allowed into the carpool lanes :-) Here they did list motorcycles on the signs - too many "cagers" were getting hacked by a solo motorcyclists passing them. Dennis At 01:15 PM 09/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Well, if you want to bring motorcycles into this.... I suspect the reason >that motorcycles are allowed into HOV/carpool lanes doesn't relate to MPG, >but rather CONGESTION. HOV lanes were introduced not just to reduce overall >gas consumption, but also (or more so) to reduce congestion - on the highway >and in parking. I think the logic is that motorcycles take up less space, >both moving and when parked, so policy makers decided to encourage more >motorcycle use (prodded by the motorcycle lobby, to be sure). > >Ride to live, live to ride. > >vty, > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:47:58 -0700 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 12:03:37PM -0500, Dennis Wynne wrote: > It is pretty funny, CA (and other states) currently allow solo > motorcyclists in the HOV/carpool lanes. I bet most bikes on the road > today do not even get 45 MPG! Most everything sold now is larger and > higher performance. Both of mine are 1800cc (about 110 cu in) > motorcycles and if I baby the throttle on a trip I might see 45mpg on > them. But normal or "spirited" riding puts me in the 30-38mpg range. I have a 750 that gets about 30mpg thanks to worn carburetor parts! Yet I surely am grateful for the HOV lane access. Sorry carpoolers if I am choking you with unburnt hydrocarbons every morning. And that big burrito I ate isn't helping matters either. > So the folks complaining about this (like Ford, who has NO vehicles > that get 45mpg) should also be complaining about motorcycles as well - > or at least most of them :-) Ford should be ashamed of themselves for whining about that. "whaa, our hybrid happens to be a 3800 pound truck. Don't discriminate against us! waaa!" -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:10:57 -0700 From: "Paul M. Moriarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Guvunator Dooms Old Car Enthusiasts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I heard this on the news this morning and have not yet confirmed it. > California's Guvunator Ahnuldt (Maria's husband) signed a bill repealing > the smog check exemption for cars over 30 years old. I hope you 02 owners > kept all the smog hardware that you took off your cars when they became > exempt a few years ago. Then again, I hope I heard the news wrong. > Cars currently exempt remain exempt. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:09:41 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 328ic FS sort of Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey All, There is a 1999 328ic up for sale near me. Actually it is being auctioned. I have not examined the car, but it appears to be in excellent condition with less than 15,000 miles on it. I've got two questions: 1. The Kelley Blue Book Trade-In value comes out to over $20,000 and the Retail is over $25,000. A nationwide search at cars.com came up with only a handful of cars, and only two 1999 models. Do these things really sell for $20,000-$25,000 or are they like the 7-Series that book high but are difficult to sell? 2. Anybody out there looking for one of these? I'm seriously thinking about buying it if it goes cheap and would then look to re-sell either now or perhaps in the spring. Stan ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
