The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 487 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Re: WSJ article Re: WSJ article Re: WSJ article Re: WSJ article Re: WSJ article Installed remote door lock kit Fan Hitting Radiator Re: <E36> Bentley coverage Re: <E36> Bentley coverage Re: <E36> Bentley coverage Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue WSJ Article
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:05:24 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The gauge on an E36, or later, will sit at 12 o'clock over about a 40 > > degree > > F range, but if the car is overheating, the gauge will still give > > warning. > > It moves FAST, though. Not much warning. I disagree. I think the gauge moves far too fast for people who drive at night, in the city, with no headlights...... in other words, the people that don't look at their gauges. For more attentive people, the gauge is quite adequate. The buffer zone is in the no danger area, once out of the no danger area, the gauge is pretty good at reflecting circumstance. Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:14:59 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jan 10, 2005, at 9:05 PM, KMS- Brett Anderson wrote: >> It moves FAST, though. Not much warning. > > I disagree. > > I think the gauge moves far too fast for people who drive at night, in > the > city, with no headlights...... in other words, the people that don't > look at > their gauges. > > For more attentive people, the gauge is quite adequate. The buffer > zone is > in the no danger area, once out of the no danger area, the gauge is > pretty > good at reflecting circumstance. We're just gonna disagree on this one. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:14:05 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, my driver's school data point... 1993 325is I'm guessing 120 mph. Finished clean pass on slower vehicle. Banked oval section of Michigan Speedway (MIS). About the top of 4th, ready for 5th, but running out of banking before reaching the cones and turning into the infield. Water pump go bye-bye. (engine survived) Idiot see idiot light. And hey look, my gauge moved from center! -Jay Practitioner of PM (procrastinative maintenance, as in 'that can probably wait one more weekend') ******** > > > > The gauge on an E36, or later, will sit at 12 o'clock over about a 40 > > > degree > > > F range, but if the car is overheating, the gauge will still give > > > warning. > > > > It moves FAST, though. Not much warning. > > I disagree. > > I think the gauge moves far too fast for people who drive at night, in the > city, with no headlights...... in other words, the people that don't look at > their gauges. > > For more attentive people, the gauge is quite adequate. The buffer zone is > in the no danger area, once out of the no danger area, the gauge is pretty > good at reflecting circumstance. > > Brett Anderson > KMS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:16:59 -0800 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WSJ article Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:56:08PM -0500, Delford Chaffin wrote: > I'd say sales are trending down because the new 5 is ugly. Look at > profile, remove all above the tail light line and you have a Porsche. > Look at the slant lights front and rear and it has Japanese written > all over it. wait, Porsche car, or Porsche truck? -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:31:50 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WSJ article Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think Delford was thinking of the new 6. If you slice off > the trunk, it looks just like a 996-era 911. > > - Mark Or, you can leave it just like it is, & it's a spitting image of an Accord from a distance...... It's sad that the best looking BMW available right now is indistinguishable from the most mass-market coupe on the road from a distance, & not even that far of a distance. Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:49:16 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WSJ article Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Too bad nobody posted the article, as it goes much farther than that. The article begins with covering what a brilliant strategy BMW used in the 80's & 90's to gain market share by focusing on making cars that were the top of their game. That despite staid styling, the sheer performance of a BMW easily separated it from the crowd & made it very desirable. It goes on to show that BMW executives believed that it's buyers were choosing BMW, rather than for it's Ultimate Driving, instead as a symbol of overt affluence. And goes on to show that they stand behind making the barf-mobiles that they are creating now, even with slumping sales. It covers how BMW's competitors have closed the performance gap & even surpassed what was once the industry benchmark, with a quick blurb about a CCA instructor who was a devoted BMW buyer who bought a new S4 instead & another who chose a G35 for it's better performance. To end the article Mr. Bangle, the chief culprit of atrocious BMWs, is quoted as saying about it's core customers leaving: "Sometimes you leave people behind. But then you also pick up new people." Goes a long way to explaining why BMW doesn't have a single decent choice on it's showroom floors. Of course, you need to sell cars, & attracting lemmings into the showrooms is necessary to do that. According to the article, without the hot-selling X3 <cough>joke<cough> BMW's sales would be down this year instead of up. For the first time in recent memory, consumer reports also couldn't give a single BMW a "recommended" mark because of the poor reliability. I guess I'm going to just have to stick with the older cars or find me a new marque..... Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 20:37 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UUC] WSJ article > > Front page of today's WSJ had an article about BMW. It looks > at recent growth and demographics of the buyers at least in > so far as the marketing types characterize them. > 5's and 7's sales volumes are trending down. > > > -Kevin > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the > Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WSJ article Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a 96 328i and an 03 G35. Now, granted that the BMW is not new, but I'd pick the G35 hands down over the BMW. First, the interior room is SIGNICANTLY better in the G35. Second, even the base G35 has 300 hp compared to only the M3, and there is quite a price difference there. Every time I drive the G35 (wife's car), I'm constantly impressed how hard it pulls, especially on the highway. The handling of the G35 IMO is great (maybe not quite as good as the e36, but that's debateable). Third, the overal quality of the G35 is much better. Also, the new M45 (not out yet) appears to be better than the 5 series. More power, and again, better overal quality. -Paul --- "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too bad nobody posted the article, as it goes much > farther than that. The > article begins with covering what a brilliant > strategy BMW used in the 80's > & 90's to gain market share by focusing on making > cars that were the top of > their game. That despite staid styling, the sheer > performance of a BMW > easily separated it from the crowd & made it very > desirable. > > It goes on to show that BMW executives believed that > it's buyers were > choosing BMW, rather than for it's Ultimate Driving, > instead as a symbol of > overt affluence. And goes on to show that they > stand behind making the > barf-mobiles that they are creating now, even with > slumping sales. It > covers how BMW's competitors have closed the > performance gap & even > surpassed what was once the industry benchmark, with > a quick blurb about a > CCA instructor who was a devoted BMW buyer who > bought a new S4 instead & > another who chose a G35 for it's better performance. > > To end the article Mr. Bangle, the chief culprit of > atrocious BMWs, is > quoted as saying about it's core customers leaving: > "Sometimes you leave > people behind. But then you also pick up new > people." > > Goes a long way to explaining why BMW doesn't have a > single decent choice on > it's showroom floors. Of course, you need to sell > cars, & attracting > lemmings into the showrooms is necessary to do that. > According to the > article, without the hot-selling X3 > <cough>joke<cough> BMW's sales would be > down this year instead of up. For the first time in > recent memory, consumer > reports also couldn't give a single BMW a > "recommended" mark because of the > poor reliability. > > I guess I'm going to just have to stick with the > older cars or find me a new > marque..... > > Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 20:37 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [UUC] WSJ article > > > > Front page of today's WSJ had an article about > BMW. It looks > > at recent growth and demographics of the buyers at > least in > > so far as the marketing types characterize them. > > 5's and 7's sales volumes are trending down. > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ____________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of > > the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the > > Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:39:09 -0500 From: Joel Gallun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WSJ article Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Too bad nobody posted the article, as it goes much farther than >> that. Was this only in the print edition or was it online too? I couldn't find it. If it was online could someone post a link? Joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:16:29 -0800 (PST) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Installed remote door lock kit Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FYI: Just installed the Remote doorlocks kit last night. It was simple to install, and seems to work great. I'd recommend it. -Paul 96 328i 03 G35 98 Kobra __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:59:50 -0800 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[email protected]> Subject: Fan Hitting Radiator Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jason Knight wrote: > The fan on my 325i is striking the radiator. The > fan has broken a couple of > blades from striking the radiator. I have had two BMW fans hit the radiator over the years (M10 and M30 engines) and both times it was a worn water pump. I now check to see if I can move the fan on a regular basis and replace the water pumps before the fan can touch the radiator. Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:05:34 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Bentley coverage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John, I'd be interested in the set of pads. Email me what you'd like for them and we can work something out. I'm in Berkeley and can meet up with you to pick up the pads. Drive Safely, Raza On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:34:27 -0800, John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 02:59:53PM -0500, Brian Daley wrote: > > I'm not sure if it's the case with late production E36's, but a car > > built in 3/99 may still be a 98 model year vehicle. Wasn't the E46 > > introduced in 1999? Model year is not necessarily related to calendar > > year. > > I got it just as bad with my '93 E30 ragtop. It was built in late '92, > marked as '92 on the emissions plate, and titled as a '93. Yet when I > try to get parts for it, I always run the risk of getting E36 parts. > Sometimes when one part of a website knows my car is an E30, another > part does not. > > That reminds me, I have a set of Hawk HPS front pads for an E36 that I > will practically give away to a local SF bay area E36 driver who wants > them. :) > > -- > "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." > -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Bentley coverage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave Swingle wrote: >BMW did a production overlap that year. The E46 came out as a 99 in late >1998. They kept producing E36 M3 coupes and convertibles only, thru 1999, >not much later than May of 1999. They are titled as 1999 cars. True, but I feel duty-bound to point out that my titled-as-1999 323is (two-door, non-M3) is also an E36. And yes, everything I've looked at follows Bentley's E36 book. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:03:10 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E36> Bentley coverage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As they did with the E30/E36 changeover, they ran both E36 and E46 production simultaneously. E46 four door cars were released as 1999 year model. All other 3 series body types were continued until the end of 1999 production in E36 guise. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > >BMW did a production overlap that year. The E46 came out as a 99 in late > >1998. They kept producing E36 M3 coupes and convertibles only, thru 1999, > >not much later than May of 1999. They are titled as 1999 cars. > > True, but I feel duty-bound to point out that my titled-as-1999 323is > (two-door, non-M3) is also an E36. And yes, everything I've looked at > follows Bentley's E36 book. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:14:59 -0600 From: Scott Staewen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E30 325i fan / radiator issue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I presume it's the same for an E39? What is the actual temperature range at 12 o'clock, anyway? And what about the oil temp gauge, does it reflect "processed" information as well? fwiw, my oil temp needle at least moves around a bit, but I don't entirely trust what *any* of the gauges are telling me. Evidently designed to make me feel more secure, my gauges actually make me feel considerably more anxious. Is there a way that's not cost prohibitive to circumvent the processors that are filtering the data and get reasonably accurate readings, using the stock instrument cluster? Scott Staewen 01 M5 Brett Anderson said: > The gauge on an E36, or later, will sit at 12 o'clock over about a 40 degree > F range, but if the car is overheating, the gauge will still give warning. > > It is NOT an accurate gauge, but it's still better than an idiot light. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:21:21 -0800 From: Tom Kosmalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: WSJ Article Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SNIP: Or, you can leave it just like it is, & it's a spitting image of an Accord from a distance...... Hogwash! The new 5 likens more to an Altima (and a slightly bloated Altima at that). The new 5 touring sure looks nice, though. Please don't tempt a larger portion of this list by offering a V8 version with a manual tranny! ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
