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  Re: Need Steering Wheel
  Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg???
  Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg???
  Re: E38 fantasies (was M6)
  Re: E38 fantasies (was M6)
  Re: E38 fantasies (was M6)
  Re: Setting Correction Factor on OBC
  <E36> Manual 
  Re: <E36> Manual 
  Re: <E36> Transmission Fluid (was Manual)
  Re: <E36> Transmission Fluid (was Manual)
  Re: <E36> Manual 
  Alcantara Steering Wheel
  <E36> Wood trim
  Re: Cheap Jump starter and Spotlight at PepBoys

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:14:26 -0500
From: "Rosario DeCicco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Need Steering Wheel
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Dave:
                           i have a non air bag sport that comes in euro 5 &
7 series it has 4 spokes and looks like a MOMO pattern. I can provide with a
photo also.

Rosario
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: [UUC] Need Steering Wheel


> After 139,000 miles, the stitching on my 95 M3 steering wheel looks a
little
> tired.  Does anyone have one out of their race car that they would part
> with?  I don't need the airbag.  Color Black.
>
> Contact me off digest.
>
> Dave
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:48:50 -0500
From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg???
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lee wrote :
> > M track mode  a new DSC setting allows for sportier driving
> > and less intrusive DSC intervention. The regular DSC setting
> > is still the default, unless track mode is selected.
> 
> I wonder how much of the package cost is in this.  Something that most
> everybody is going to turn completely off at the track or an autocross
> anyway.  Furthermore, is this an indication that the standard DSC is a
> little too intrusive????

the manufacturing cost of the new DSC would be just about zero
since it's all software.  AFAIK there's no change in the sensors
involved in the system, so it's just programming & however they
want to allocate those costs to the program (or not).

 > See, now the competition package should've been more competition oriented.
> While they did some cool stuff, why not go farther since it's a special
> anyway.  Imagine if you could save the weight (and, more importantly cost)
> of having to have the leather, power-everything memory seats.

that would require additional crash testing and/or other certification
I'd suspect.  esp if they went with the carbon seats the CSL got in
Europe IIRC.


>  Does an M3 competition need a DVD-Nav system?

no & it's not standard AFAIK.  in theory you could probably
order the Comp pkg on a completely stripped car, but the
chances of getting a dealer to do that might be small.

> rack which is a cool upgrade in itself.  That being said, for the $4000, why
> not buy a base model (can you say base model M3????--even my little E30 is
> stocked) buy the rack from the dealer & spend the other $3000 in aftermarket
> goodies??????

if the upgraded brakes are enough of an improvement from the
stock ones, if the revised DSC mode(s) are actually better and
assuming the steering rack would cost you a fortune to buy
as well as voiding your warranty as soon as you start messing
with a new car, you're certainly better off buying the comp
pkg from the dealer & then selling off the big wheels for a set
of lighter 18's and track tires or something.  of course in Europe
the CSL came with Pilot Sport Comps as the OE fitment.

 

Ben

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:52:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg???
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Robinson, Lee wrote:
> Bigger, more efficient brakes, that's good....really good.  Are the rear
> brakes floating rotor too?

I believe they are, but I haven't seen one for myself.

> I wonder how much of the package cost is in this.  Something that most
> everybody is going to turn completely off at the track or an autocross
> anyway.  Furthermore, is this an indication that the standard DSC is a
> little too intrusive????

Something that's hinted at in the description of the M track mode, but not
made clear is that ZCP deletes cruise control.

> That's really cool.  I know the E30 M3 sport evos had a wheel like this, &
> that's definitely a BMW cool blast from the past.

The 330 ZHP (the Performance Package) also comes with an alcantara-wrapped
wheel (which may be retrofitted onto other E46s), and a common complaint
for that wheel is that the alcantara pills very quickly, so some people
don't see this as an advantage.  I don't know if the ZCP wheel will suffer
from this as well.  The ZCP's wheel is apparently the same as the CSL's.

> See, now the competition package should've been more competition oriented.
> While they did some cool stuff, why not go farther since it's a special
> anyway.  Imagine if you could save the weight (and, more importantly cost)
> of having to have the leather, power-everything memory seats.  Does an M3
> competition need a DVD-Nav system?  

Yeah, I know people around here who do order bare-bones M3s (cloth/leather
manual seats, no sunroof, no nav, etc.) and track them.  The sunroof does
add substantial weight in a bad location and takes away about an inch of
headroom, which becomes significant with a helmet, but I'm not sure how
much weight the other stuff adds.  For example, the Lotus Elise touring
package that adds power windows, better audio, carpet, leather, etc. adds
about 15 lbs to the car. 

For the color, if you have a good dealer, many of the BMW Individual and
non-standard colors can be special-ordered as well, so if you must have an
Interlagos Blue M3 with cruise control, it can probably be done. 

--Andre


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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:57:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks guys.  I remember following Project X as Rob was teasing us about
it a few years ago.  Should I try something similar, I figured I wouldn't
get as lucky as he did and find an 850 donor car with a manual
transmission, so I'll settle for an E39 M5 donor instead. :-)

--Andre


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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:54:07 -0600
From: "Ivan Demkovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a question to somebody knowlegable on this subject..
I'm seriously thinking about converting 740i to 6 speed. I have no problems 
doing mechanical work but have some problems with electronics..

Here is couple questions:
1. If I wanted to convert 2001 E38... I see that in Europe there was 6sp 
740i and they made them til 1998. Then it was only automatic. Did something 
change that would stop me from bolt-on conversion? Did they remove clutch 
pedal mount or something like this?

2. If I change everything, how do I disconnect transmission module from main 
computer module?
I guess my question is do I have to do any changes in electric circuits or 
it's all mechanical?
How do I get rid of those "D N .." message on my sppedo?

I know there is some conversions like this done, just wonder how clean is 
this setup..

Thanks!

>From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  E38 fantasies (was M6)
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:57:03 -0800 (PST)
>
>Thanks guys.  I remember following Project X as Rob was teasing us about
>it a few years ago.  Should I try something similar, I figured I wouldn't
>get as lucky as he did and find an 850 donor car with a manual
>transmission, so I'll settle for an E39 M5 donor instead. :-)
>
>--Andre
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:40:16 -0500
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Go take a look at this thread on Bimmer Forums http://tinyurl.com/43pdc

It's in reference to a car I built recently.  Read through both pages of the
thread, somewhere in there I gave an idea of the work involved.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ivan Demkovitch
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] E38 fantasies (was M6)
>
>
> I have a question to somebody knowlegable on this subject..
> I'm seriously thinking about converting 740i to 6 speed. I have
> no problems
> doing mechanical work but have some problems with electronics..
>
> Here is couple questions:
> 1. If I wanted to convert 2001 E38... I see that in Europe there was 6sp
> 740i and they made them til 1998. Then it was only automatic. Did
> something
> change that would stop me from bolt-on conversion? Did they remove clutch
> pedal mount or something like this?
>
> 2. If I change everything, how do I disconnect transmission
> module from main
> computer module?
> I guess my question is do I have to do any changes in electric
> circuits or
> it's all mechanical?
> How do I get rid of those "D N .." message on my sppedo?
>
> I know there is some conversions like this done, just wonder how clean is
> this setup..
>
> Thanks!
>



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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:41:58 -0800
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Setting Correction Factor on OBC
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > Recent threads described hidden codes on the OBC.
> (snipped)

 I looked up the link given, but it doesn't seem to apply to the low 
function OBC in the e39.  Anyone know if there are hidden functions for 
that?

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:27:44 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Manual 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone have a model year 1999 M3 that can tell me what the owner's
manual looks like and perhaps a part number. I've seen items on Ebay which
have a large image in color of the car. Mine on the other hand is white
with a small square offset to the left with a black and white of the car.
I'm trying to figure out the best lube for the transmission.

-Kevin



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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:41:39 -0500
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Manual 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The 99 would have the small image on a white cover.  It is also M3 specific,
regular E36 won't cut it.

Don't have the part number for the 99, sorry, but it's very likely to be
still available from the dealer.

BMW LTF-1, or some such designation, is the fluid, it's a "lifetime" manual
trans fluid.  We use Red Line MTL in cars with this fluid.

Brett Anderson
KMS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [UUC] <E36> Manual
>
>
> Does anyone have a model year 1999 M3 that can tell me what the owner's
> manual looks like and perhaps a part number. I've seen items on Ebay which
> have a large image in color of the car. Mine on the other hand is white
> with a small square offset to the left with a black and white of the car.
> I'm trying to figure out the best lube for the transmission.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>



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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:01:55 -0500
From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Transmission Fluid (was Manual)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brett,

Do you recommend Red Line MTL instead of D4 ATF for these trannies?
Do you recommend a 30K change interval, or thereabouts?

Thanks!

Dave Meyer
99 M coupe (23K miles, same tranny as 99 M3)
Stafford VA

Brett Anderson recommends for the 99 E36 M3:
>BMW LTF-1, or some such designation, is the fluid, it's a "lifetime"
>manual trans fluid.  We use Red Line MTL in cars with this fluid.



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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:29:45 -0500
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Transmission Fluid (was Manual)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Either is fine.  D4 ATF is an ATF, it's specifically to replace regular ATF.
MTL is closer in spec to the LTF-1.  However, one can fall back on the fact
that BMW basically allowed anything from ATF to 75W90 in their transmissions
for many many years, depending on climate and customer comfort.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Meyer
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:02 PM
> To: UUC Digest
> Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> Transmission Fluid (was Manual)
>
>
> Brett,
>
> Do you recommend Red Line MTL instead of D4 ATF for these trannies?
> Do you recommend a 30K change interval, or thereabouts?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dave Meyer
> 99 M coupe (23K miles, same tranny as 99 M3)
> Stafford VA
>
>



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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:46:41 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Manual 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ATF.  Synthetic preferably.  Add some MoS2 for the best performance.
Gary Derian


> Does anyone have a model year 1999 M3 that can tell me what the owner's
> manual looks like and perhaps a part number. I've seen items on Ebay which
> have a large image in color of the car. Mine on the other hand is white
> with a small square offset to the left with a black and white of the car.
> I'm trying to figure out the best lube for the transmission.
>
> -Kevin


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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:12:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Alcantara Steering Wheel
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Since this was recently brought up, I thought I would let others know that I am 
in the process of
having an E36 M3 steering wheel, an E30 M-Technic II steering wheel and also a 
steering wheel for
a friend on this list recovered in Alcantara with a professional leather 
steering wheel
reupholster company.

Basically, the retail cost is $259.  Tri-color basting stitching adds $75, 
1/16" rubber padding
adds $50 or 1/8" rubber padding adds $75 (plus nominal shipping).

I have set-up a wholesale account and have secured pricing of $201 for the 
steering wheel with
tri-color stitching adding $60, 1/16" rubber padding adding $50 or 1/8" rubber 
padding adding $75.

So, one can save from $58 to $73 doing it with me (cost ranges from $201 to 
$336 depending on
options plus shipping).  Also, they don't supply the Alcantara, I have to do 
that.  I already have
the Alcantara so that isn't an issue and I will supply it for free.  If someone 
simply wants
leather, that would be an option as well.

If anyone is keenly and seriously interested in joining, let me know within the 
next 48 hours and
I can arrange for you to join in with us.  I need to know ASAP though as I am 
sending in our order
soon.

Regards,

Rich

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:42:43 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Wood trim
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I like wood in my cars (no not that kind you pervs). Does the parts CD show
parts from German or Australian models?
There are some options for models in these areas that had wood interior
trim.


Kevin


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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:46:45 -0500
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Cheap Jump starter and Spotlight at PepBoys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One thing that's almost impossible to find these days is a NON idiot proof
one of these things.  I can't tell from the specs (found on other sites than
the one supplied by Dennis) if this is Idiot proof or NON idiot proof.

What's the difference?  An idiot proof one has a circuit controller that
won't allow power to the leads until it knows you've hooked it up with the
correct polarity.

What's bad about that?

It uses the "dead" battery's voltage to decide polarity.  If the "dead"
battery is actually dead, it can't see any voltage, and so will NOT turn on
the power supply.

Same deal with "automatic" battery chargers, they won't turn on unless they
sense voltage.

FYI.

Brett Anderson
KMS



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