The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 504 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: E38 fantasies (was M6) Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg??? Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg??? Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg??? Re: M6 Re: M6 Re: M6 M3 comp package Brembo Brakes on G35/STi/350Z/Evo Re: steering wheel Need Steering Wheel
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:03:43 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: E38 fantasies (was M6) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Tammer Farid wrote: > The E38 is equal parts elegant and menacing, and it's the > simplicity of its form that makes it seem smaller than it > is. The E38 is also my favorite 7, and they've depreciated greatly in price. I wonder if it would be possible to stick an E39 M5 engine in one along with the 6-speed gearbox. It would be black, wearing some gratuitous incarnation of BBS wheels (19-inch CHs or RGRs in 18), with upgraded suspension and brake bits. Talk about an iron fist in a velvet glove, of which the stock sport-packaged E38 in V8 form already does a fair approximation. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:09:14 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Andre Yew wrote: >> The E38 is equal parts elegant and menacing, and it's the >> simplicity of its form that makes it seem smaller than it >> is. > > The E38 is also my favorite 7, and they've depreciated greatly in > price. > I wonder if it would be possible to stick an E39 M5 engine in one along > with the 6-speed gearbox. Close: http://www.robertlevinson.com/seven/ The M5 motor would undoubtedly fit, too, given that the 4.4L that fits in the E39 was also used in the E38. > It would be black, wearing some gratuitous > incarnation of BBS wheels (19-inch CHs or RGRs in 18), with upgraded > suspension and brake bits. Talk about an iron fist in a velvet glove, > of > which the stock sport-packaged E38 in V8 form already does a fair > approximation. I still think Rob beat you to it. :) - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:34:15 -0500 From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jan 20, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > http://www.robertlevinson.com/seven/ > Wow, do those web pages need updating. Since the last update, the interior has gotten a big update (E46 M3 front seats in limited-edition fabric), Corsa RSC-based exhaust built by UUC, performance downpipes and cats by UUC, updated Mk IV nav system from BMW, UUC lightweight flywheel, and coming within the next month are new very special forged wheels and UUC performance air intake system. And I do still plan on some engine work. Overall, one of the most satisfying project cars I've ever had a part in producing. As always, a big thanks to Brett Anderson of KMS for helping turn the idea into reality. - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:14:46 -0500 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andre Yew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The E38 is also my favorite 7, and they've depreciated greatly in price. > I wonder if it would be possible to stick an E39 M5 engine in one along > with the 6-speed gearbox. It would be black, wearing some gratuitous > incarnation of BBS wheels (19-inch CHs or RGRs in 18), with upgraded > suspension and brake bits. Talk about an iron fist in a velvet glove, of > which the stock sport-packaged E38 in V8 form already does a fair > approximation. Geez, what kind of nut cases would do something like that... http://www.robertlevinson.com/seven ;-0 Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:52:37 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E38 fantasies (was M6) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Heh-heh.....yea, yea, heh-heh....that's pretty cool...yea, yea!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob > Levinson * UUC Motorwerks > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 00:34 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UUC] E38 fantasies (was M6) > > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > > > > http://www.robertlevinson.com/seven/ > > > > > Wow, do those web pages need updating. > > Since the last update, the interior has gotten a big update > (E46 M3 front seats in limited-edition fabric), Corsa > RSC-based exhaust built by UUC, performance downpipes and > cats by UUC, updated Mk IV nav system from BMW, UUC > lightweight flywheel, and coming within the next month are > new very special forged wheels and UUC performance air intake system. > > And I do still plan on some engine work. > > Overall, one of the most satisfying project cars I've ever > had a part in producing. As always, a big thanks to Brett > Anderson of KMS for helping turn the idea into reality. > > - Rob > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the > Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:27:46 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg??? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought I had heard something also about it only having SMG, and also the Dynamic Lockup diff...I could be wrong though... Brian --- Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Robinson, Lee wrote: > > P.S. I saw an ad for the M3 competition package. > According to the ad, it > > adds the euro brakes, & 19" wheels. Is that it? > How much does this cost? > > According to the BMW press release, the ZCP has: > > Compound and cross-drilled brake rotors. > > Larger front brakes the front brake diameter > increases from 12.8 to 13.6 > inches (the rear diameter remains 12.9). > > 19 cross-spoke forged wheels with high performance > tires. > > Steering ratio is more direct 14.5:1 vs. 15.4:1. > > Modified suspension calibration (shocks and springs) > fine-tuned for > larger wheels and cross-drilled compound brakes. > > M track mode a new DSC setting allows for sportier > driving and less > intrusive DSC intervention. The regular DSC setting > is still the default, > unless track mode is selected. > > Alcantara sport steering wheel (no multi-function > steering wheel or > cruise control buttons) and handbrake grip. > > Special aluminum trim and new exterior Interlagos > Blue (A30) metallic > paint. > > It costs something like $4000. The picture of it in > the BMW ad on the > inside cover of this month's Roundel is really > pretty. > > --Andre > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:24:57 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg??? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Compound and cross-drilled brake rotors. > > Larger front brakes the front brake diameter increases from > 12.8 to 13.6 inches (the rear diameter remains 12.9). Bigger, more efficient brakes, that's good....really good. Are the rear brakes floating rotor too? > > 19 cross-spoke forged wheels with high performance tires. > > Steering ratio is more direct 14.5:1 vs. 15.4:1. This is definitely cool & probably worth the price of entry in this car. > > Modified suspension calibration (shocks and springs) > fine-tuned for larger wheels and cross-drilled compound brakes. Good, good, I'm liking this. > > M track mode a new DSC setting allows for sportier driving > and less intrusive DSC intervention. The regular DSC setting > is still the default, unless track mode is selected. I wonder how much of the package cost is in this. Something that most everybody is going to turn completely off at the track or an autocross anyway. Furthermore, is this an indication that the standard DSC is a little too intrusive???? > > Alcantara sport steering wheel (no multi-function steering > wheel or cruise control buttons) and handbrake grip. That's really cool. I know the E30 M3 sport evos had a wheel like this, & that's definitely a BMW cool blast from the past. > > Special aluminum trim and new exterior Interlagos Blue (A30) > metallic paint. Uh-huh.... > > It costs something like $4000. The picture of it in the BMW > ad on the inside cover of this month's Roundel is really pretty. See, now the competition package should've been more competition oriented. While they did some cool stuff, why not go farther since it's a special anyway. Imagine if you could save the weight (and, more importantly cost) of having to have the leather, power-everything memory seats. Does an M3 competition need a DVD-Nav system? The stuff they put in is cool, but the kinda thing that the track junkies who'd be interested in a car like this can source the fun bits for less on the aftermarket--except the steering rack which is a cool upgrade in itself. That being said, for the $4000, why not buy a base model (can you say base model M3????--even my little E30 is stocked) buy the rack from the dealer & spend the other $3000 in aftermarket goodies?????? I saw the ad in GRM, and yes, that blue is a REALLY cool color, also maybe worth the price of admission. Especially if the only other choice of blue is the smurf-sperm, Laguna. > > --Andre THX, Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:26:02 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M6 & what's the M3 Competition Pckg??? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > M track mode a new DSC setting allows for sportier driving > > and less intrusive DSC intervention. The regular DSC setting > > is still the default, unless track mode is selected. > > I wonder how much of the package cost is in this. Something that most > everybody is going to turn completely off at the track or an autocross > anyway. Furthermore, is this an indication that the standard DSC is a > little too intrusive???? Depends on your definition I suppose, I bet BMW lawyers would make it "more intrusive" if they had their way. > > Alcantara sport steering wheel (no multi-function steering > > wheel or cruise control buttons) and handbrake grip. > > That's really cool. I know the E30 M3 sport evos had a wheel like this, & > that's definitely a BMW cool blast from the past. The Sport Evo E30 M3 had suede bits, the E46 is Alcantara (faux suede). Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:48:44 -0500 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M6 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Data Point: Friend of mine drove his US-Spec E24 '88 M6 in Germany for three years. His Dinan-chipped M6 could do an indicated 165 MPH with pedal remaining ("fast enough" according to him). He routinely drove it for extended periods at 140+. The E24 M6 is an autobahn weapon, and will carry it's well-heeled passengers at very high speeds over extended distances in complete control with an enviable level of style and comfort. Dave Meyer 99 M coupe Stafford VA >I know the E24 was heavy, and I actually feel the same way about >both M6's. They're really nice cars--can't imagine much else that >would be really nice to ride around in & actually still provide some >usability...Provide pretty reasonable performance too. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:03:55 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M6 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Lee, > > If I have my facts straight, there is a clutch in the M6 and > other SMG cars. > It's just operated electronically. Yes, every one does have a clutch, actuated by an electrically controlled hydraulic system. This system is no doubt (I work for the German company that likely does the electronics) VERY complicated & probably due to the myriad of electronic & hydraulic actuators will not be as robust or reliable as a plain-jane manual. Manual trannies are brilliant, very robust due to very simple design..... I guess I should've said clutch PEDAL & not clutch. Personally, I like being able to properly slip a clutch for autocross starts & properly do matched-rev up & downshifts.....kinda keeps the daily grind a little interesting--even in a mundane Saab. Yes, the SMG will do this for you, but I think it's more fun if I get to play. I disable the ABS at the track for the same reason....well, that & I hate flat-spotting tires. :) I always wondered what percentage of SMG M3's never get switched out of the "automatic" mode..... > > John Kjos > '99 540i/6: Dinan S1 (many other mods) > '05 X3 3.0L: (stock, orders from mgmt.) > Portland, OR Some nice rides there.....the E39 540 is one of my faves... Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:30:30 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M6 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (snipped) > Yes, the SMG will do this for you, but > I think it's more fun if I get to play. I disable the ABS at the track for > the same reason....well, that & I hate flat-spotting tires. :) ABS cause flat-spotting? Since when? > I always wondered what percentage of SMG M3's never get switched out of the > "automatic" mode..... I bet not many, hence why they make a system that can do it all. Most people want automatics, even owners of $60k M3s. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:01:58 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: M3 comp package Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I saw one at Tischer the other day. sticker was just over $61K (cough, cough....) But it did have a very nice steering wheel.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:56:57 -0500 From: "rmplum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Brembo Brakes on G35/STi/350Z/Evo Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here's a rundown from the source: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434281 scroll down the page about 2/3rds, look for the post by "msv" who is a lead brake engineer for Brembo, there you will find this info: STi Front disc: 326x30mm Rear disc: 316x20mm Front caliper: 4-piston 40/46mm pistons Rear caliper: 2-piston 36mm pistons Evo Front disc: 320x32mm Rear disc: 300x22mm Front caliper: 4-piston 40/46mm pistons Rear caliper: 2-piston 40mm pistons 350Z/G35C Front disc: 324x30mm Rear disc: 322x22mm Front caliper: 4-piston 38/44mm pistons Rear caliper: 2-piston 40mm pistons Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:04:28 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: steering wheel Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which reminds me. Anyone have a lead on Alcantara steering wheel wraps. I asked the wheelskin people and they said they wouldn't do it. a thicker, grippy wheel would be kinda nice. Marc Plante E36 M3/4, 60k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:22:46 -0600 From: "Dave Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Need Steering Wheel Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After 139,000 miles, the stitching on my 95 M3 steering wheel looks a little tired. Does anyone have one out of their race car that they would part with? I don't need the airbag. Color Black. Contact me off digest. Dave ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
