The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 577 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <e36> Tranny Lube Re: <E36> Air Damn Extensions Re: <E36> Air Damn Extensions Re: <E36> Air Damn Extensions Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 255s on E36 M3 front Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Fwd: 255s on E36 M3 front Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Re: [racing] RE: targa newfoundland
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:25:26 -0500 From: "Bruno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <e36> Tranny Lube Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have been using Redline MTL on many 5 series 5 speed transmission ( and Saab) with great success. Fixed some problems like gears popping out of 1st. All the customers were happy with the results. Everyone was happy with the results. Bruno Webmaster of the BMW E34 Website: www.bmwe34.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] <e36> Tranny Lube > On Tue, March 8, 2005 11:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Is MTL (Redline) an OK replacement for the tranny lube (1999 M3) or just > > go with the Redline ATF? I also plan to use the LubroMoly MoS2. > > Red Line D4 ATF. No additives required, IMNSHO. > > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44 JP > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:31:43 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Air Damn Extensions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How about "[UUC] <E36> Air Dam Extensions"? === Unless you're frustrated with those "damn" things. The probe-like transducer in one duct is for the outside temperature display. The disc-like thermostat on the other side contributes to control of the heated washer nozzles. Oh, it seems some of this is redundant, so I won't go on about the pork chops and undertray... - N. Jay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:34:00 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Air Damn Extensions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks guys (Brett, Gary, Scott, Greg). I take it the sensor on the driver's side duct is the ambient temp sensor for the OBC? The sensors have an entirely different appearance. Why would this be? -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:46:20 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Air Damn Extensions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The disc-like thermostat design is probably cheaper, more robust, and likely has some desirable intrinsic hysteresis. The temperature transducer (probably a thermistor) is shaped for better sensitivity. More $$. ********************** > Thanks guys (Brett, Gary, Scott, Greg). > > I take it the sensor on the driver's side duct is the ambient temp sensor > for the OBC? > > The sensors have an entirely different appearance. Why would this be? > > -Kevin > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:39:40 -0500 From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brett, Yes, TC Kline offers externally adjustable rear Koni SA shocks for the e36 M3. But so does Ground Control. Very appropriate timing for this post as I just ordered a set today (about 3 hours ago) actually. Ground Control price (at least my price-good or bad) is $179 each for externally adjustable rear M3 Koni SA dampers. Plus ground shipping from CA to MI for $15. In stock and shipped out today from their place to mine. TC Kline lists them on their web site at $189 each I think. They list them as a TC Kline exclusive, but I think that may just refer to their valving? Ground control also has their own valving for their Koni shocks and they have a range of spring rates for their recommended use. Check with them to ensure the rates fit with your application. Lots of on-line vendors (e-shocks.com, ltbmotorsports.com, etc) carry the 8240-1115-Sport Koni SA rear shocks for ~$125 each with 'free shipping', but these are the conventional compress to adjust version and I have no idea about the valve rates. As far as I know there are only two sources (save maybe Koni direct?) for the BMW external adjust SA Koni dampers. TC Kline and Ground Control. That said; had I known you/KMS sold them too (of course I'd need to ask, DOH!) I would have ordered them through you even if it cost a few extra bucks. Your advice and contribution to this list are worth it that's for sure! Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 07 Mar From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 >sorry for the cross post... >anyone selling a set of koni single adjustable shocks for a 97 M3??? >looking if anyone has a set lying around before i look into online >vendors??? >and i know i asked this a long time ago, but i lost my saved mail- any >vendors you guys recommend??? >thanx in advance! Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:22:06 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 >There is only one choice for Koni Single adjustables, and that's TC Kline. >The TC kit is the only one that offers externally (single) adjustable rears. >You can buy them direct, www.tcklineracing.com, or from resellers like >myself, for the same price. >Brett Anderson >KMS **************************************************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Thank you. **************************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:19:55 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 > > >There is only one choice for Koni Single adjustables, and that's TC > Kline. > >The TC kit is the only one that offers externally (single) adjustable > rears. > > >You can buy them direct, www.tcklineracing.com, or from resellers like > >myself, for the same price. --- "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, TC Kline offers externally adjustable rear Koni SA shocks for the > e36 M3. But so does Ground Control. > > TC Kline lists them on their web site at $189 each I think. They list > them as a TC Kline exclusive, but I think that may just refer to their > valving? > As far as I know there are only two sources (save maybe Koni direct?) > for the BMW external adjust SA Koni dampers. TC Kline and Ground > Control. --- Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's True Choice Motorsports also. I think they've been doing that > mod to the rear SA shock for about 5 or 6 years that I know of. I > believe most customers probably had them convert the SAs to DAs though. > Certainly not inexpensive as far as I know. Many more choices these > days for custom valved Konis. Heck many more choices in adjustable > dampers period. To clarify, TC Kline's are exclusive as they come that way (externally adjustable) from Koni's factory per TC Kline's specifications. All others (AFAIK) have to "modify" the standard Koni SA to make them externally adjustable. If I had a choice, I would take the one from the factory as opposed to "modified" from regular SA. I also will do about anything to avoid GC "Customer Service" or the lack thereof. Regards, Rich 95 M3 - Koni DA from TC Kline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:05:40 -1000 From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: 255s on E36 M3 front Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hey gruppe, quick question for a friend who isnt on the digest...he's wondering if a 255/40/17 michelin pilort sport cup tire will fit on the front of his E36 M3 with a 10mm spacer...he currently has 17x8 SSR comps, but is willing to buy a set of 17x8.5 rims if he'd be able to fit 255s all around (i'm not sure if his rear fender has been rolled)...thanx in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:25:32 -0500 From: "marshall lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jay G'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Missing the key piece of info in the equation....what is the offset(backspace) of the wheels? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay G Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] 255s on E36 M3 front hey gruppe, quick question for a friend who isnt on the digest...he's wondering if a 255/40/17 michelin pilort sport cup tire will fit on the front of his E36 M3 with a 10mm spacer...he currently has 17x8 SSR comps, but is willing to buy a set of 17x8.5 rims if he'd be able to fit 255s all around (i'm not sure if his rear fender has been rolled)...thanx in advance! Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 21:53:13 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I highly doubt it's going to fit no matter the offset unless he's done some serious "rolling". 255 MSPC run nearly 1/2 to 3/4" wider than Kuhmo 255s and 1/2 inch taller. I had to do some creative "rolling" on my E36 to get them to fit and I'm running GC coilovers which have more clearance than stock struts. This was with 15mm spacers up front to clear the strut, more than 15 and I'd rub the "rolled" fenders. If he's using the bolt trick to get more negative camber up front there is NWIH they will fit. This was with SSR 8.5 and Fikse 8.5 and 9" Also needed a 8lb hand sledge to get enough clearance in the rears. Having said all that if he's running a stock suspension he may have enough room since the ride height is higher. My race car is pretty low. Also camber will be critical. I'm running about -3.2 degrees all around BTW - they aren't that great a tire. Kuhmos are as fast, Hoosiers more so but don't last as long. Also look for the "born on date" for tires. I had a set of MPSC delivered right from Michelin that were 3 years old. They were 6 seconds slower at Thunderhill than MPSC that were 6 months old I bought from the TireRack. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marshall lytle Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:26 PM To: 'Jay G'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] 255s on E36 M3 front Missing the key piece of info in the equation....what is the offset(backspace) of the wheels? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay G Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] 255s on E36 M3 front hey gruppe, quick question for a friend who isnt on the digest...he's wondering if a 255/40/17 michelin pilort sport cup tire will fit on the front of his E36 M3 with a 10mm spacer...he currently has 17x8 SSR comps, but is willing to buy a set of 17x8.5 rims if he'd be able to fit 255s all around (i'm not sure if his rear fender has been rolled)...thanx in advance! Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:54:54 -0500 From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JVH used to run 255 Kumho's on 9" IFG's on his wife's M3/4. IIRC he had the strut hats swapped, but stock strut housings and fender liners. Carlos has the tires & wheels now, but not yet an E36 to run them on. I forget how much spacer was required up front, but a bit. he ran studs as well. if the PSC's are significantly wider than the Kumho's it may be academic anyway. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:20:00 -0500 From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Fwd: 255s on E36 M3 front Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from JVH, who is no longer on the list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 15mm spacers up front, studs were for ease, but if you have the right length lug bolts, you'd be fine. i did have to roll both fenders and "persuade" the muffler out of the way on Ice9. the stock muffler fit fine. i would get a little rubbing on the inside of the wheel well on the track under heavy compression. jvh On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:54:54 -0500, Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JVH used to run 255 Kumho's on 9" IFG's on his wife's M3/4. > IIRC he had the strut hats swapped, but stock strut housings > and fender liners. Carlos has the tires & wheels now, but > not yet an E36 to run them on. I forget how much spacer > was required up front, but a bit. he ran studs as well. > > if the PSC's are significantly wider than the Kumho's it > may be academic anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:28:42 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 255s on E36 M3 front Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> he's talking about Kuhmos, not MPSC, correct? M -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Keyes Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Fwd: [UUC] 255s on E36 M3 front from JVH, who is no longer on the list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 15mm spacers up front, studs were for ease, but if you have the right length lug bolts, you'd be fine. i did have to roll both fenders and "persuade" the muffler out of the way on Ice9. the stock muffler fit fine. i would get a little rubbing on the inside of the wheel well on the track under heavy compression. jvh On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:54:54 -0500, Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JVH used to run 255 Kumho's on 9" IFG's on his wife's M3/4. > IIRC he had the strut hats swapped, but stock strut housings > and fender liners. Carlos has the tires & wheels now, but > not yet an E36 to run them on. I forget how much spacer > was required up front, but a bit. he ran studs as well. > > if the PSC's are significantly wider than the Kumho's it > may be academic anyway. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:44:59 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know there are only two sources (save maybe Koni direct?) > for the BMW external adjust SA Koni dampers. TC Kline and Ground > Control. There's True Choice Motorsports also. I think they've been doing that mod to the rear SA shock for about 5 or 6 years that I know of. I believe most customers probably had them convert the SAs to DAs though. Certainly not inexpensive as far as I know. Many more choices these days for custom valved Konis. Heck many more choices in adjustable dampers period. Carlos. __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:34:11 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WTB: koni SA shocks for E36 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To clarify, TC Kline's are exclusive as they come that way > (externally adjustable) from Koni's > factory per TC Kline's specifications. All others (AFAIK) have to > "modify" the standard Koni SA > to make them externally adjustable. > > If I had a choice, I would take the one from the factory as opposed > to "modified" from regular SA. > I also will do about anything to avoid GC "Customer Service" or the > lack thereof. Good point. GC customer service is lacking IMO. But the exclusive comment I believe is no longer true. I know talking to Jay Morris the few times I've gotten a hold of him to talk about E30 dampers he mentioned he's been working with Koni to get custom valving on their racing version of the Koni SA for E30 M3/325. I had my doubts from other conversations I've had with people which led me to believe the shortened E30 race Koni was a VW Corrado insert that just happened to have valving numbers that worked well as a racing shock for a rear wheel drive car. I tried to confirm by talking directly to Koni (Lee Grimes maybe? I forget) and he confirmed what Jay had told me. Lee was working with Jay to get GC custom valved externally adjustable dampers for E30s and E36s. So I was wrong, no VW insert in there (maybe it was to start with though). I know the rears at least then required a different shock mount (diameter is larger) and seeing them when Pete S. (tckline dude) brings them to Mid-Ohio to display leads me to believe that perhaps tc and GC are selling either a very similar product or the same exact product. Perhaps they're similar but each company sells a Koni damper with their own custom valving. Make sense? Carlos. __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 00:14:27 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Andy Sanborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [racing] RE: targa newfoundland Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good to know, Scott, thanks. Maybe we'll just bring something relatively "sedate" this year, if only to check things out. Then I'm sure we'll be compelled to try to win it in 2006 ("try" being the operative word)! Vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott T. Smith Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] [racing] RE: targa newfoundland On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 19:20 -0800, Dennis Liu wrote: > Andy, what do you think about building a Targa killer - retrofit > everything backwards into a '73 911 chassis, so, effectively, it's a > 993/964 running in the Classic division, kinda like what Bill Arnold > did with shoehorning E36 M3 engine, suspension and chassis bitzas into > a Bavaria? That's probably not a good idea, unless you want to only run the car for one year. Read the rules -- they are talking about major changes for 2006. Most likely any monster car like Bills or mine will be bumped to unlimited. Scott '85 323i w/ S50B32 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
