The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 568 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: I6 fuel consumption - (Originally was <E34> Sachs Sporting Suspension Re: F1 corral <E30> Convertable Antenna Swap? Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Re: e36 brake pads - track cars Re: e36 brake pads - track cars
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: I6 fuel consumption - (Originally was Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, Harvey, I'm assuming you did buy chains/cables in preparation for the predicted snow, and if so, what did you choose? Jon Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:18:54 -0800 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sometime back I inquired about snow chains/cables for an E39 for a trip from the SF Bay area up to Lake Tahoe and back. Said trip took place this past weekend, Thursday afternoon to Sunday afternoon and in the context of chains or cables - a total bust. Weather had lots of snow in weeks leading up to the trip, and last night's news predicted a new additional 4-12" in the Tahoe basin - I got in and out on clear, dry pavement both ways!! Sometimes it IS better to be lucky than good. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E34> Sachs Sporting Suspension Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe, Does anyone have/know of an E34 in the Boston area with a Sachs Sporting Kit installed? I'd like to have a test ride/drive before making the change. Thanks, Jon<---enjoying the snow __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 08:55:09 -0500 From: Carl Scholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: F1 corral Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While we're on the subject, are there any BMW Club (US or Canadian) gatherings at the Canadian GP? I'll be going to the race for the first time this year. Carl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:16:23 -0500 From: Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: <E30> Convertable Antenna Swap? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have gone through my third antenna on my 91 325iX and I am searching for alternative, yet authentic BMW solutions. Going through the ETK I wondered if one might fit the E36 convertable's fixed antenna in place of the retractable. Has anyone ever tired this? -Matt 1991 325iX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:11:06 -0600 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]> Subject: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Over the last few yrs the subject of good vs bad batteries has surfaced here intermittently . The current cold-spell here in Tenn has reminded me that our Toyota Tacoma (bought new Feb 1999 ) just had its sixth birthday with it's original battery still going strong . The 1995 BMW M3 I bought used in 1996 had its original 2 yr warrantied battery die quite precisely at 2 yrs and 1 month . WHY does a $13,000 Toyota come with a better battery than a $40k BMW ?? I cant imagine that the OEM cost to the manufacturer is so different between the two batteries, so is it the constant 'drain' of all the electronic gizmos that leads to such short life on the BMW? .The Toyota only has a radio-memory to keep alive throughout the dark of night ...Or should we all just plan to buy Toyota OEM batteries for our BMWs in the future? Bill Proud , retiree, Tennessee , whee !! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:14:04 -0600 From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMWBits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Uucdigest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not sure about your battery in particular. But it has been my experience that the factory battery commonly lasts 5,6 and 7 years. I suppose you just got a bad one. Jenny Morgan On Mar 1, 2005, at 11:11 AM, BMWBits wrote: > Over the last few yrs the subject of good vs bad batteries has surfaced > here intermittently . > The current cold-spell here in Tenn has reminded me that our Toyota > Tacoma (bought new Feb 1999 ) just had its sixth birthday with it's > original battery still going strong . > The 1995 BMW M3 I bought used in 1996 had its original 2 yr warrantied > battery die quite precisely at 2 yrs and 1 month . > > WHY does a $13,000 Toyota come with a better battery than a $40k BMW ?? > I cant imagine that the OEM cost to the manufacturer is so different > between the two batteries, so is it the constant 'drain' of all the > electronic gizmos that leads to such short life on the BMW? .The Toyota > only has a radio-memory to keep alive throughout the dark of night > ...Or > should we all just plan to buy Toyota OEM batteries for our BMWs in the > future? > > Bill Proud , retiree, Tennessee , whee !! > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > ___ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:27:37 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Same here. Just replaced an OEM battery in my E28 after 6 years of service; dad's E36 M3 just killed its first battery at 7 years; sister's E36 325iC is on its second battery (first one lasted 5 years, this one is on year 6. -tammer --- Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure about your battery in particular. But it has > been my > experience that the factory battery commonly lasts 5,6 > and 7 years. > > I suppose you just got a bad one. > Jenny Morgan > > > On Mar 1, 2005, at 11:11 AM, BMWBits wrote: > > > Over the last few yrs the subject of good vs bad > batteries has surfaced > > here intermittently . > > The current cold-spell here in Tenn has reminded me > that our Toyota > > Tacoma (bought new Feb 1999 ) just had its sixth > birthday with it's > > original battery still going strong . > > The 1995 BMW M3 I bought used in 1996 had its original > 2 yr warrantied > > battery die quite precisely at 2 yrs and 1 month . > > > > WHY does a $13,000 Toyota come with a better battery > than a $40k BMW ?? > > I cant imagine that the OEM cost to the manufacturer is > so different > > between the two batteries, so is it the constant > 'drain' of all the > > electronic gizmos that leads to such short life on the > BMW? .The Toyota > > only has a radio-memory to keep alive throughout the > dark of night > > ...Or > > should we all just plan to buy Toyota OEM batteries for > our BMWs in the > > future? > > > > Bill Proud , retiree, Tennessee , whee !! > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > ___ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW > > CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home > of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:20:50 -0600 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A failure at 2 years is quite a bit less than the avg 5-7 years I usually see failures at. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #052 TreehouseRacing.com - Pressing the boundaries in the Club Race Spirit of winning M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: [UUC] Batteries..the life thereof. > Over the last few yrs the subject of good vs bad batteries has surfaced > here intermittently . > The current cold-spell here in Tenn has reminded me that our Toyota > Tacoma (bought new Feb 1999 ) just had its sixth birthday with it's > original battery still going strong . > The 1995 BMW M3 I bought used in 1996 had its original 2 yr warrantied > battery die quite precisely at 2 yrs and 1 month . > > WHY does a $13,000 Toyota come with a better battery than a $40k BMW ?? > I cant imagine that the OEM cost to the manufacturer is so different > between the two batteries, so is it the constant 'drain' of all the > electronic gizmos that leads to such short life on the BMW? .The Toyota > only has a radio-memory to keep alive throughout the dark of night ...Or > should we all just plan to buy Toyota OEM batteries for our BMWs in the > future? > > Bill Proud , retiree, Tennessee , whee !! > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:34:49 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the battery in our 93 325is lasted as long as we owned it, 8 years. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Batteries..the life thereof. A failure at 2 years is quite a bit less than the avg 5-7 years I usually see failures at. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #052 TreehouseRacing.com - Pressing the boundaries in the Club Race Spirit of winning M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: [UUC] Batteries..the life thereof. > Over the last few yrs the subject of good vs bad batteries has surfaced > here intermittently . > The current cold-spell here in Tenn has reminded me that our Toyota > Tacoma (bought new Feb 1999 ) just had its sixth birthday with it's > original battery still going strong . > The 1995 BMW M3 I bought used in 1996 had its original 2 yr warrantied > battery die quite precisely at 2 yrs and 1 month . > > WHY does a $13,000 Toyota come with a better battery than a $40k BMW ?? > I cant imagine that the OEM cost to the manufacturer is so different > between the two batteries, so is it the constant 'drain' of all the > electronic gizmos that leads to such short life on the BMW? .The Toyota > only has a radio-memory to keep alive throughout the dark of night ...Or > should we all just plan to buy Toyota OEM batteries for our BMWs in the > future? > > Bill Proud , retiree, Tennessee , whee !! > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:36:14 -0500 From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My 5/97 build M3 is still running with the original battery. I think we had a longest life contest/thread for original equipment batteries a while back. I'm gunning for the record. Steve Stoner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:47:04 -0600 From: Scott Staewen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A little over 3 years on my E39 M5. :( Scott Staewen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:31:16 -0800 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve, Ya got me by two months. Knock on sulfuric acid and lead, three water fillups over seven years, seven months, and 111k miles and 'Jack's original battery is still cranking her over. Barry Steve Stoner wrote: >My 5/97 build M3 is still running with the original battery. I think we >had a longest life contest/thread for original equipment batteries a >while back. I'm gunning for the record. Steve Stoner > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:31:59 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Batteries..the life thereof. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In my now gone 93 325i, I changed the battery in early 2004, and by the looks of the condition of the battery at the time I changed it, I was pretty sure it was original. >:-) Beat that! hehehe.... Brian --- Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 5/97 build M3 is still running with the original > battery. I think we > had a longest life contest/thread for original > equipment batteries a > while back. I'm gunning for the record. > Steve Stoner > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:52:22 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e36 brake pads - track cars Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hmmm, very interesting, we have the near opposite problem > here in the Midwest where I can routinely reel in E30 M3s and > they won't let me by on the straight after trailing directly > behind them through a bunch of turns as they are too ashamed > to admit to being slower... > > Yes, I drive an E36 M3 and not particularly aggressively > either, I am there to learn and to drive home in it. Keep in mind that my car is mildly modified & handles & brakes what seems to be exceptionally well. I see this a lot guys not allowing others by. Any d!ckhead who does this should have their money refunded & be sent the hell home, as they're wasting other's track time & causing a dangerous situation. It just seems to me that the culprits are most commonly in E36 & E46 M3s. These guys are told so much how superior they are over the S14 cars that they think there's no way for an E30 to run faster (actually, it seems most of these guys think M3s are the fastest things on the planet). Hence, I have to watch these guys walk me on the straight only to make up hundreds of feet under braking & completely trail them for a long way. Usually, after a lap or so when I've decided that they just aren't going to point by, I try to set them up for slingshotting around them on turn exit so that he doesn't have any choice but to point me by.....still this only works about 50% of the time. The I get told that if I'm being held up, I should come in & let him go!!!!! What?!?!?!?! This idiot is going slow & not playing by the rules & I have to give up my track time? Besides, this never works as I always seem to just catch right back up. Furthermore, this behavior is dangerous. It causes lots of cars to just be bunched up. 90% of the time, the guy holding everybody up is also now trying to drive way past his limits to stay in front & being of even further hazard to himself & others. I actually had an instructor tell me that I was pushing him to hard. > > You need to stop attending the Porsche schools then... My experience with the local Porsche clubs has been very good. Never had someone in one of those clubs not let me by as soon as possible. There are 2 Mustang clubs we run with in SC & those guys are really great too. On of the reasons I love doing clubs with supercars is the complete lack of this. Basically, z06s & Vipers have enough power to blast by on the straight, probably hold me up for a couple of turns but their power insures that they are gone soon enough. We did an event with Panoz at Road Atl last year & some guy showed up in an E36 M3. Came rattling through the paddock bragging about being a CCA instructor & that he was going to be out running down 'vettes who better point him by.....you know, a real charmer. Needless to say, with all the feather ruffling he was in the way. Yep, I caught him easily in the first session out. Only when I did, he was holding up a line of cars. About 5 Z06s, a Viper & a GT3 & now, little old me. So, somehow this dumba$$ who though he was fast was getting nearly run over by MUCH faster cars as he was dead slow. He wasn't pointing by & was going to great lengths to actually block the track. Good luck for the other cars he was holding up is that they have enough power to scream by him on the straights even without the point, but only 2-3 can get by each lap. By the time I get directly behind him, the Viper (who was the 2nd car behind him) has caught back up (in 3 laps!!!!). Now, there's no way this [EMAIL PROTECTED] is going to let me by. I try to slingshot him a couple of places but he has more power & refuses to face the obvious & point me by. I'm all over him & he's driving the car stupidly for his ability. About the time I start backing off to pit (after all, he's ruining my track time) all his throwing the car around haphazardly has finally gotten to his passenger who pukes in the car. After the session there's a line of 10 guys complaining about him. He's warned but does the exact same thing in the second session & is indignantly ejected from the school. I wonder what he's teaching people at CCA schools????? > > ;-) > > Later, > > Rich Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e36 brake pads - track cars Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (various comments snipped...) > I see this a lot guys not allowing others by. Any d!ckhead who does this > should have their money refunded & be sent the hell home, as they're wasting > other's track time & causing a dangerous situation. > > Usually, after a > lap or so when I've decided that they just aren't going to point by, I try > to set them up for slingshotting around them on turn exit so that he doesn't > have any choice but to point me by.....still this only works about 50% of > the time. > > I actually had an instructor tell me that I was > pushing him to hard. > We did an event with Panoz at Road Atl last year & some guy showed up in an > E36 M3. Came rattling through the paddock bragging about being a CCA > instructor & that he was going to be out running down 'vettes who better > point him by.....you know, a real charmer. Sounds familiar, someone bragging about how fast they are... ;-) > I try > to slingshot him a couple of places but he has more power & refuses to face > the obvious & point me by. I'm all over him & he's driving the car stupidly > for his ability. About the time I start backing off to pit (after all, he's > ruining my track time) all his throwing the car around haphazardly has > finally gotten to his passenger who pukes in the car. After the session > there's a line of 10 guys complaining about him. He's warned but does the > exact same thing in the second session & is indignantly ejected from the > school. It sounds to me based on some of your comments that you have contributed to some dangerous situations as well (by no means am I excusing the moving road blocks either and their inability to recognize and acknowledge drivers/cars that are lapping more quickly than they are). These are driving schools after all, not racing schools. Additionally, not everyone is going to have as much "Mad Skilz" as you obviously demonstrate or have the intention of pushing their equipment like you are. This is simply the way it is. You should really consider getting into racing instead. > I wonder what he's teaching people at CCA schools????? Me too. Later, Rich ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
