The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 559 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: slight WOB: cracking brake rotors Re: slight WOB: cracking brake rotors Re: slight WOB: cracking brake rotors Re: Now Vernor's (was: English) <e34> starts easily in the morning hard in the afternoon Re: E36 318i auto tranny Re: English in Bahstan Re: English in Bahstan Re: English in Bahstan RE "English"
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:31:03 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, it would largely be do the fact as to my place of employment. What is going on there??!? What I meant to say was "it would largely be related to my place of employment." Better? Hopefully. Regards, Rich - needs to read my own gibberish at times to clean it up... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:44:36 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kurt, If you're NOT from Southwest Michigan, then I owe you a Boston Cooler. :-) - N. Jay VanDerHerricksma (lived in Holland, MI for those ~10 years) **************************************** > Zimmerman wrote: > <Homer> Mmm! Vernors! </Homer> > For the most part, I don't drink pop (or soda) anymore. But I will > say that all other Ginger Ales are poseurs compared to Vernors. It'll > grow hair on your chest. > > Kurt--showing Michigan roots. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:12:05 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kurt, Shucks. Now that I think about it, Zimmerman is German (Deutsch), not Dutch (Nederlands). Metro Detroit. Or I can send it FedEx Ground. My cousin's daughter calls Vernors 'tickle pop'. - N. Jay ***************************** > Northeast Lower Penninsula was home for my first 18 years. > > But where do I have to go to collect? > > -Kurt--- fondley remembering lifting a glass to my face, then coughing > violently as the ginger bubbles carressed my sinuses, the good ole > days. > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:44:36 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kurt, > > > > If you're NOT from Southwest Michigan, then I owe you a Boston Cooler. > > :-) > > > > - N. Jay VanDerHerricksma > > > > (lived in Holland, MI for those ~10 years) > > > > **************************************** > > > Zimmerman wrote: > > > <Homer> Mmm! Vernors! </Homer> > > > For the most part, I don't drink pop (or soda) anymore. But I will > > > say that all other Ginger Ales are poseurs compared to Vernors. It'll > > > grow hair on your chest. > > > > > > Kurt--showing Michigan roots. > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:37:11 -0500 From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fall 1977, Smitty's Foodliner, West Lafayette, Indiana Cashier: "Would you like your pop in a sack?" Me: "Huh?" Welcome to the midwest. Vic Maslanka ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:49:25 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 22, 2005, at 8:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here ya go, Mark. > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=aluminium Yes. It says "variant of aluminum." > C'mon guys. Aren't you both right? > That was my whole point. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:53:06 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: slight WOB: cracking brake rotors Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andre, Brake Pads: Your brake pads appear to have been run too hot. Street pads can do this in track use. You may wish to consider buying some brake pads that are happy at higher temps. An aggressive street pad might be enough, but an entry-level track pad might be better. Be forewarned that track pads may squeal and dust heavily, and can eat rotors when cold. Short/tight tracks (like Gingerman, in MI) will be hard on the brakes because the brakes don't have much chance to 'rest'. Faster, more open tracks (like Putnam Park, in IN) tend to be easier on brakes. Controlling temperatures: Some backing plates for the rotors and attached brake ducts would help control the temps on whatever pads you choose. You can partially block the ducts on colder days, or open them up on warm days. Braking technique will also affect the temperature and life of brake system elements. See 'reverse braking', probably in the archives. Brake Rotors: You may wish to consider a standard vented rotor. The slotted and/or cross-drilled types are certainly sexier, but not always more effective. From the picture you posted of your cracked rotor, it appears that the crack occurred at the inside end of that slot. I would submit that the crack may have developed at that point due to a stress riser at the edge of the machined feature (slot). Slotting and cross-drilling create sharp edges along the surface of the brake rotor that may eat the leading edge of your brake pads. They also reduce the mass of the rotor, which limits heat transfer from the pads to the rotor, and reduces the heat capacity of the rotor. With excellent braking technique and sufficient cooling, this is not an issue. For something less than race conditions, a standard vented rotor may be better. Pulsing: May be in part due to the cracked rotor -- the rotor now has a discontinuity and probably weakness. Also possible that there is some pad material build-up on your rotor(s). Or, if someone drove the car hard, then returned to the paddock, then stopped the car and rested a foot on the brake, the rotor(s) may in fact be warped. YMMV. HTH. Regards, N. Jay ******************************** > I'm wondering if someone can help me (and a friend) out with this: when > do brake rotors which are not cross-drilled crack in 2 months of use? In > those two months were a bunch of autoX, 1 day at Laguna Seca (in the wet), > and 2 days at Buttonwillow (full config with the bus stop and Star Mazda, > clockwise), and daily street driving in the Silicon Valley area. > > Here are some pictures under the Feb. 21, 2005 entry (which should be the > top of the page): > > http://www.devtools.org/mt/rus/ > > Is this probably a freak event, or is this possible? The car is a Subaru > WRX wagon, with some engine mods, but probably not producing any more than > 300 HP. Only street tires and pads (Axxis Ultimates) have been used on > it, and the suspension's been stiffened, though it's not race-stiff. Will > upgrading to a big-brake kit solve this, or could something be wrong with > the car? The rotors are from Stoptech, so I wouldn't expect them to be > bad. > > --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:00:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: slight WOB: cracking brake rotors Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wonder if it's a coincidence that the crack originates/terminates at the edge of the slot? -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:15:51 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: slight WOB: cracking brake rotors Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin, Good observation. I don't believe it is a coincidence. My hypothesis is that it originates there (described at greater length in my prior post). - N. Jay *************************** > I wonder if it's a coincidence that the crack originates/terminates at the > edge of the slot? > > -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:51:00 -0500 From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Now Vernor's (was: English) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Okay, like everyone else I was waiting for this thread to die but I could not resist: I'll show my non-Michigan roots......and I'll make an honest attempt (by an Engineer mind you) to spell everything correctly and use proper grammar. I'm a transplant to Michigan from 25 years in the 'real' mid-west (west of the Mississippi). Therefore; I had the opposite experience. Growing up in Nebraska and moving to this winter wasteland (as opposed to Nebraska?) that is Michigan, I went from traditional ginger ale to Vernor's and have been quite disappointed. I can't seem to find a good smooth ginger ale readily available here in Michigan! Actually I have about 10 cans of Vernor's in my pantry that I've had for probably 4-5 years.....opened the 12 pack, drank 2 and was so disappointed I never opened another. I'll ship them to any of you folks with an addict's twitch for Vernor's! ;-) As for putting hair on my chest; I don't need any more and if I did I prefer my beer to be stout not my soda, pop, coke, carbonated/sweetened beverage. (There is no apostrophe on the modern Vernors can, but Mr. Vernor created it and the original signs included the possessive form "Vernor's Ginger Ale". So I've included the possessive form of the name rather than the more modern trade name.) So 15 years of fermenting ginger ale in Mr. Vernor's pharmacy during the civil war yielded what I'd call some rancid ginger soda......but to him it was 'zippy'. I wonder if it would make a good degreaser..... ;-) More info if you care: http://www.dpsu.com/vernors.html Cheers, Chet Dawes >-----Original Message----- >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: English >When I was a boy in Michigan, I drank 'pop' -- probably too much. After >four years at college near Philadelphia, with students from all over the >country and the world, I learned to ask what sort of 'soda' an >establishment carried. I still call it soda, because it's shorter than >"soda pop", and who the heck ever wants soda water? Very few are >confused by "soda" in that context. >As to who drinks what soda and where they live... I grew up thinking >Vernors was gingerale. In fact, it is a phenomenon that originates in >and radiates from Detroit, Michigan. It hasn't made it very far. I >realized this when I couldn't find any Vernors in the Eastern PA stores >and had to settle for Canada Dry. On a related and very confusing >note... my family from the Detroit area pours Vernors over ice cream in >a glass and calls it a "Boston Cooler". Huh? Good luck finding Vernors >in Boston. >Pepsi Cola seems the sweeter to me. I prefer Coca-Cola. I was raised >by two Michigan natives. I was born in Illinois and lived in North >Carolina and Kentucky before I turned 8. I lived in Michigan and drank >most of my 'pop' from the ages of 8 to 18. College in PA for four >years, then back to Michigan. Since my return to the Midwest, no-one >but my dentist has given me a hard time about drinking soda, and I think >he disagrees with the habit, not the words I use to describe it. >As if anyone cares... :-) >- N. Jay >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:01:04 -0800 >From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:41:39 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >> As to who drinks what soda and where they live... I grew up thinking >> Vernors was gingerale. In fact, it is a phenomenon that originates in >> and radiates from Detroit, Michigan. It hasn't made it very far. ><Homer> Mmm! Vernors! </Homer> >For the most part, I don't drink pop (or soda) anymore. But I will >say that all other Ginger Ales are poseurs compared to Vernors. It'll >grow hair on your chest. >Kurt--showing Michigan roots. **************************************************************************************** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. **************************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:30:52 -0800 (PST) From: John Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <e34> starts easily in the morning hard in the afternoon Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My '93 525i starts quickly in the morning but not in the afternoon. It takes a second or two to start in the morning, but at noon or for the trip home, it takes 5-10 seconds of the starter cranking before the engine will start. Any ideas what might be causing this? I don't know if this helps, but our temperatures here have been in the low to mid 30s in the morning and mid 50s in the afternoon. My commute is about 60 minutes and 32 miles. John ===== end [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:07:54 -0600 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, "Mark Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 318i auto tranny Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If my experience with my slushbox is indicative of the usual GM ones, I wouldn't count on the GM version being too much more reliable than the ZF. Had to get mine rebuilt at 80,000 miles. Phil 92 325i With the Mr. Transmission rebuilt slushbox that's still going good (about 35K since the rebuild.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: [UUC] E36 318i auto tranny > So I was reading through the latest issue of Bimmer and they have a > section dedicated to the E36. In it they mention that the 318i models > came with an optional GM supplied auto tranny. My questions are the > following: > > 1. what model GM tranny is it? > 2. were all 318i models so equipped (including the ti)? > 3. Were 325i/328i models equipped with a different auto tranny (like a > ZF model)? The article says electronically controlled, but doesn't > mention brand. > > The reason I ask is that I have considered getting an auto equipped > E30/E36 as a daily driver (also because my wife can't drive stick). I > really love the M42 motor in my cabrio for its simplicity in > maintenance and thrift on gas (premium gas, however), but the '91 318i > was not available with an auto tranny and many have complained about > the reliability of the ZF auto in the E30 and later models of BMW as > well. My experience with RWD auto tranny's from GM has been very > good, all 3 RWD GM cars (all '80's model sedans) I owned prior to > getting my BMW seemed to have had bullet-proof transmissions. > > Sincerely, > > Mark Gold > Sacramento Chapter BMWCCA > 916-852-6533 (home) > 916-743-7153 (cell) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English in Bahstan Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bwhahaha. Marco this cracks me up. I've lived in the Boston area for past 35 years and have never heard this one. Thanks Jon<----born in Iowa, grew up in Joisey. PS around here, that fizzy, sweet stuff in the bottle is called "tonic" (of whatever flavor) and you get it at the "spa" (convenience store). Go figure. Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:22:14 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I swore I was going to stay out of this. But your last sentence reminded me of a destination pronunciation experience I had once in the Boston vicinity. About 20 years ago <sigh> I was on my first business trip to Boston. I needed to go to Worchester. Not knowing how to get there I asked for directions from the hotel staff. She looked at me strangely, paused and said "you must not be from around here it's pronounced Wooster." <duh> Ok, so some days later I needed to go to Dorchester. Again not knowing how to get to Dorchester I asked the same young lady for directions. Having learned my lesson about Worchester I asked for directions to "Dooster". That was met by uncontrolled laughter. Therefore, I wouldn't even attempt how to tackle the places you mentioned. Marco __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:14:21 -0500 From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English in Bahstan Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tonic" and "spa" are both endangered species, even in the Boston area. You'll still hear "tonic" now and then up in Revere and thereabouts, but most of the mom-and-pop (no pun intended) spas died out years ago in favor of the 7-11's and gas-station mini-marts. Brian (in Boston metrowest) Jonathan Brush wrote: >Bwhahaha. Marco this cracks me up. I've lived in the >Boston area for past 35 years and have never heard >this one. Thanks > >Jon<----born in Iowa, grew up in Joisey. > >PS around here, that fizzy, sweet stuff in the bottle >is called "tonic" (of whatever flavor) and you get it >at the "spa" (convenience store). Go figure. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:32:40 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English in Bahstan Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian wrote: >"Tonic" and "spa" are both endangered species, even in the Boston area. You'll still hear "tonic" now and then up in Revere and thereabouts, but most of the mom-and-pop (no pun intended) spas died out years ago in favor of the 7-11's and gas-station mini-marts. ___________ Hah! I worked in a "spa" (pronounced "spahhhh") and sold "tonic" ("tahwwnick") back in college. What's amazing about Greater Boston is that the ahcksent will vary, discernibly, depending on whether one is from Southie (South Boston), the South End (of Boston), Revere (Reveeahh), Medford (Meffa), Somerville (Slumerville), 02139 Cambridge (the people's republic), Cambridgeport (not so much the people's republic), and even more distant places, like Woburn (Woooburn) or New Hampshah. Do you drink from a bubbler (bubblah) or a cooler or water fountain? Use an elastic or rubber band? Do you order a grinder, sub, hoagie or sandwich on a bulkie? Use a remote or clicker to change channels? Buy your beer (beeah) at the liquor store or packie? Sip your milkshake or frappe? Jimmies or sprinkles on your ice cream? Store stuff in your cellar or basement? All of the above will vary from TOWN to TOWN. Welcome to Boston. Now go home! Wicked pissah! Vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:39:47 -0800 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: RE "English" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have skimmed this long and tangled thread for so long without comment, I finally have "bit" the hook - - - From Tom's post : From my dear, departed Grandmother: "Assuming they understand the meaning, polite people do not typically comment on accents, regional slang, or slight mispronunciations." Those seem like words to live by (and maybe even words to end this thread?). :-) Except there is a town in New Hampshire that is named "Sanbornton" as in San-born-ton - yet somehow my wife, her family, and others in the region but not in the town call it "Samington" . Now how they get from one to the other is beyond my comprehension. But then, they say "po-eim" instead of "poem" But they talk "differently" up there - they call soda "Tonic" and "dinner" is the meal traditionally eaten around noontime, and use phrases like "reach me down" - but humans adopt - at least I've learned to over 33 years of married life. :-) Having now added my $0.02 - is this thread about done? Gonna take my e39 up to Tahoe City this Thursday and hope all the secondary roads and driveways are clear and dry I'll be traveling on the stock Continental "ContiTouringContact supposed M&S tires - but carrying borrowed snow cables and( 2) 15 lb buckets of sand, just in case. (Obligitory BMW content satisfied herewith) Harvey The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh. I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it off and use a Mac. " Author Unknown Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
